Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season Episode 2 Discussion

Safi_Chan said:
Soooooooo... when are we gonna finally see Eren, Armin ect.

killsubaru said:


Eren was in this episode.

A4R7N said:
To be completely honest, from the near end of season 3 part 2 AOT is really hitting the mark as far dialogues, character development, plot progression, and mostly managing exposition.

Vindicater said:


I just want Jager and crew back on screen to be honest. I am enjoying these building episodes but it has a jarring switch so far.

Alpha98 said:
Reiner: Yes, the island is full of devils.
Gabi: Why?
Reiner: Woman eat potato

Momentay said:
Getting worse... Choppiest animation ever. Also they cut out Creepy Pieck scene. :( Only Reiner and Porko looks decent, sometimes Falco and Pieck. Any hope for the part 2 will be better animated?

Kbenicio said:


It's called rotoscopy. Aku no Hana and kizumonogatari are bad and good examples of this animation method. I think that in snk it's pretty messy, the framerate is obviously a problem.

mafd12 said:
Well, I definitely need to watch this a second time, mainly because of seeing it with a very questionable sub, but I'm sure it'll help to clear some things.
Pretty heavy infomative episode.

This one was a very character driven one, specially with Reiner's segments, but it also is visble with the presentation of the other warriors, I'm liking them all. It was interesting to see Zeke proposing to retake Paradis again, his arguments make sense but it seems that it comes more from a personal desire to revert their mistakes, also, he's got less than a year left due to Ymir's curse, the pressure over him must be enormous; I wonder if Marley's militar cupule it's gonna let him follow his plan or ther're gonna deny it. Gabi and Falco have some more focus in this episode as well, and it's becoming clear that they're two different sides of the coin, one absoulety sure of her actions, ultra confidence, cold-blooded and a bit brat-alike, and the other way more reasonable, unsure of his actions and the motives behind them and kind-hearted with some shades of mercy; it's gonna be really interesting to see how this contrast is gonna be developed. And now, more into the core of this episode, Reiner clearly shows some psychological wounds from his 5 years mission in Paradis, it's weird and definitely must be explore with more attention and deepness, but it seems like a mixture of negation, hatred and fear, though in all honesty, I couldn't stop laughing when he was telling Sasha's potato incident; it's good next week we're gonna get a flashback of him where hopefully we might get to understand this better, how he was in the inside back then and how he's in the inside actually.

In the technical aspect, direction was fine, pretty well, but I feel it got a bit weird, maybe it came more from the animation, but it felt like at times it was desperate to not stay quiet, and it seemed strange, stillness can be very elegant when used adequately, it seemed they forgot about it in some parts of this episode. And talking about the animation, it had this really weird feeling to it, it's by no means bad, but it seems a bit clanky to be good, there's clearly an effort to show naturalness with movement, but it didn't turn out pretty well; only when I entered the forum I got to understand that it was because of the rotoscoping, which shows the efforts behind this but still can't hide its mistakes, maybe there was a lack of interbetweening, which is rare as the idea with rotoscoping is to create fluidness, it's a good idea but I hope it can be used better in coming episodes; also, though it still had a resemblance with the previous seasons, this time the character designs felt a moore different, nothin big but defnitely there was a change. And finally the music, whille I think it's pretty good, I don't get a connection with all of the previous job, like it doesn't fit the sound that is already stablished, like it doesn't belong to the same story, there was that little guitar piece when Reiner and the kids were at the coast that was great but it didn't click with the air that music generally puts us on; I get it may be nitpicking and that was something obviously with the change of main composer, but with Kohta being Sawano's apprentice (am I right?) I'd hope for him to keep the familiarity in the sound while bringing something new; we'll have to see what else he's gonna show us in future episodes.

Last but not least, Historia Reiss exists, but if that wasn't the case, Pieck would be best girl. Ok, I'm exaggerating a bit, there's only one episode out, but I really liked Ms. Cart Titan, I'm expectant to see more of her.

Edit: Almost forgot it, RIP Ymir and Eren spotted, things are gonna get heated soon for sure.

dicecop said:
Things that I noticed: Mappa's art style has some sort of low frame fluidity to it. It's not bad, but it definitely different from WIT's style. It almost makes the movements look like CGI. The pacing is also too fast imo, bit I don't think they can slow it down without losing the audience which just want the action.

Piicco said:
I don’t like AoT and think the fanbase is cancer but do you really expect everyone to take you seriously when you have Fairy Tail in your favorites bro? xD

keragamming said:
@killsubaru

Great work dude just kill the surprise for anime only! if I was a anime only I would avoid this discussion threads because persons are literally ruining the experience for others.

Cosmincreato said:

If I had to guess, Ymir knew how the Eldians from Marley felt after her experience as the cult's goddess. She knew that Reiner and Bert are not actually bad people and she felt bad for eating Marcel since she was the only one who understands how they feel ("I am returning what I borrowed back then" is what she said). After all, Ymir died with no regrets, other than the fact that she couldn't marry Historia, which couldn't have been possible either way. I don't think Ymir hates Marley for what happened, she accepted that the world they live in is fucked.
I agree that Ymir's reasoning is weird, but she was for sure an interesting character, she didn't defend either side and she only did what she wanted to.

Mtuos said:
I just dont get you ppl. All you talk about is the animation.
In my opinion majority has already read the manga so they dont worry about the plot at all, focus on animation and enjoy seeing scenes about what they already know.
BUT
I havent read manga, I dont know whats gonna happen and I just dont care about animation at all. I feel like watching the beggining of some new anime, but most of the secrets were already explored so there is no need for it. We were in the middle of the super action plot, everything was moving and now its all dead.

In the S1E1 we were thrown in the middle of bloodlusty titans, now we are watching ppl chatting around table. What are they even talking about? We know the enviroment from previous episode and if they are going to do something in the future we will see it so whats the point.

I feel like they just milk cow while they forgot this is not a cow, its a horse which is much better at running, not at giving milk.

Seitaro11 said:
CG HUMANS



CG HUMANS

(Berserk 2016 vibe intensifies)