Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu 2nd Season Episode 2 Discussion

Can someone tell me when they first bring up the sanctuary? I was so confused watching the show. Like, they just get to the villiage and then immediately start talking about how ram is at this sanctuary that they both know nothing about. I’m lost there. Was it something they removed from the light novel?

Jul 15, 2020 8:23 PM

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crystalblade13 said:
Can someone tell me when they first bring up the sanctuary? I was so confused watching the show. Like, they just get to the villiage and then immediately start talking about how ram is at this sanctuary that they both know nothing about. I’m lost there. Was it something they removed from the light novel?

S1 - Ep. 24, around 6min.

The meeting of Emilia with Wilhelm and Ram in the mansion.

Ram also tells Emilia that Rosswall was heading there at the same time.

Jul 15, 2020 8:26 PM

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Damn the OP is good. IMO it's better than both of the openings in S1.
Frederica and Petra both look so cute in their maid outfits!
Looking forward to seeing Subaru, Emilia and Beatrice's character development throughout this arc. I'd love to see Echidna and other witches in the past as well. This arc's gonna be insanely good.

Jul 15, 2020 8:43 PM

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Competition for the first post? Is that really a thing lmao

Jul 15, 2020 8:43 PM

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-Stray said:

mozgow said:

Yes, this season will finally give answers to many questions from both seasons.

Just wanna ask but.. will Subaru's ability be explained as well? cause this is the one mystery I want literally answered or at least to some degree clarified on...

Dude ... do you really need an explanation for that?
Subaru dies & satella either:
- Rewinds time (Making subaru keep all the new memories)
- Or revives subaru at a previous important point

And with that you can understand that satella's wish is for subaru to survive here.

At the same time she won't allow for subaru to talk about his ability because that is a secret between subaru and her (remember she's the jealous witch)

Jul 15, 2020 8:51 PM

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tottobennington said:

-Stray said:

Just wanna ask but.. will Subaru's ability be explained as well? cause this is the one mystery I want literally answered or at least to some degree clarified on...

Dude ... do you really need an explanation for that?
Subaru dies & satella either:
- Rewinds time (Making subaru keep all the new memories)
- Or revives subaru at a previous important point

And with that you can understand that satella's wish is for subaru to survive here.

At the same time she won't allow for subaru to talk about his ability because that is a secret between subaru and her (remember she's the jealous witch)

to add to this, her hand grasping towards subaru everytime he revives or rewinds gets more... solid? corporeal?

Jul 15, 2020 8:55 PM

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i hope rem never wakes up.

Jul 15, 2020 8:56 PM

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Heartyace said:

This is more of a good thing than a bad thing. Because real life doesn't have one tone, if there was one consistent tone through out the show be it a more slice of life tone or a drama/action, we either wouldn't gain so much love and affection for these characters or intrigue to keep watching the show. A lot of the more mundane conversions never come up again, you know what that's like? Real life. But it's these small things that get us more acquainted with the characters even though we only remember the climax of the story. All in all, it's the difference between work and a hobby.

ANYWAYS I really like this show. Where do I donate to the author again?

But Re: Zero isn't trying to emulate real life: it's a fictional story set in a fantasy world with zany exaggerated characters with multi-color hairstyles. It features maids who show off their cleavage, a fetishized crossdresser, and a protagonist who constantly yells for no reason.
Avatar the Last Airbender is also an animated series that shifts its tone from being light hearted to serious. However, it generally has a light hearted tone with the occasional drama; but that drama never takes itself so seriously that it becomes a completely different show.
With Re: Zero, that isn't the case; this is a an anime that wants you to take it very seriously, but also doesn't want to alienate you with how serious it can be, so it injuects waifus and slice of life-ish scenes of light heartedness. As a result, it has no consistency in its identity: Re: Zero is too light hearted to be dark, and too dark to be considered light hearted; there is no balance.

It's indeed not trying to emulate real life, never really said that either. I said we gain more sincere feelings due to the style of writing. There are exaggerated characters every where in RL btw. You might not think so because we ignore it like it doesn't exist. But I was walking to a restaurants and some lady was just swearing at me about nonsense (To be exact, she was like "Get out of here, You don't live here?!") She was young I ignored it, also first time I've seen her in my life, pretty sure same for her.

You make it sound like it's consistently using bathos like some MCU movie. It's not. The light hearted scenes are far after climatic scenes. It's not like they cut tension to tell a joke. To give an example, they arrived at the house where they're supposed to be comfortable and the decompress. Where as the conversation with Beatrice, he approaches her in a much more friendly manner and the conversation gets more sour when he presses her for information. There wasn't a flip, that takes you out of the experience, but it was a slow progression to it like a real conversation.

You don't need a show to constantly have one tone, it usually makes for a very boring story if it is consistently serious. Sakurada reset is a very serious and good story. But it's very easy to find it boring due to the style and tone they take with it.

It could be like SAO where, there's a serious conversation between racism then boom tentacle rape. Since you seem to be a fan of Vinland, tell me every scene with thorkell isn't a huge tone shift. We don't hate Thorkell for it, he's just an eccentric character.

HeartyaceJul 15, 2020 9:04 PM

Jul 15, 2020 8:58 PM

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Another amazing episode.The ReZero greatness.
And that opening is LIT

BRAWLERS

Jul 15, 2020 9:10 PM

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Rob7 said:

crystalblade13 said:
Can someone tell me when they first bring up the sanctuary? I was so confused watching the show. Like, they just get to the villiage and then immediately start talking about how ram is at this sanctuary that they both know nothing about. I’m lost there. Was it something they removed from the light novel?

S1 - Ep. 24, around 6min.

The meeting of Emilia with Wilhelm and Ram in the mansion.

Ram also tells Emilia that Rosswall was heading there at the same time.

thank you so much. I’ve rewatched season 1 like 3 times and I somehow forgot this detail. You’re a life saver!

Jul 15, 2020 9:19 PM

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Heartyace said:

It's indeed not trying to emulate real life, never really said that either. I said we gain more sincere feelings due to the style of writing. There are exaggerated characters every where in RL btw. You might not think so because we ignore it like it doesn't exist. But I was walking to a restaurants and some lady was just swearing at me about nonsense (To be exact, she was like "Get out of here, You don't live here?!") She was young I ignored it, also first time I've seen her in my life, pretty sure same for her.

There's a difference between realistic quirky, and unrealistic quirky. Nobody in real life is like Beatrice, who speaks is an extremely obnoxious high pitched voice, and constantly says, "I suppose." Unless you have a serious mental disorder, nobody constantly yells at everything like Subaru.

Heartyace said:
You make it sound like it's consistently using bathos like some MCU movie. It's not. The light hearted scenes are far after climatic scenes. It's not like they cut tension to tell a joke. To give an example, they arrived at the house where they're supposed to be comfortable and the decompress. Where as the conversation with Beatrice, he approaches her in a much more friendly manner and the conversation gets more sour when he presses her for information. There wasn't a flip, that takes you out of the experience, but it was a slow progression to it like a real conversation.

I can get behind that.

Heartyace said:
You don't need a show to constantly have one tone, it usually makes for a very boring story if it is consistently serious. Sakurada reset is a very serious and good story. But it's very easy to find it boring due to the style and tone they take with it.

Re: Zero tries to be everything, and by trying to be everything, it ends up having no identity: it wants to be an edgy psychological thriller anime. But it also wants to be a light-hearted isekai anime with waifus and quirky humor. It wants you to desperately take it seriously, but doesn't want to alienate you at the same time. That's why this anime is so popular, if you ask me. Because it's broad, like the lyrics of a Linkin Park song, so that it appeals to everyone.
Avatar the Last Airbender manages to balance its contrasting tones by never being too light hearted, or too dramatic. But every tone in Re: Zero is at the extreme: the light hearted scenes are extremely light hearted. The dark scenes are extremely dark. Re: Zero relies on extreme tones: Avatar does not.
Re: Zero could've easily had a darker art style, while still having more light hearted scenes that aren't so light hearted that they completely take me out of the show.

Heartyace said:
Since you seem to be a fan of Vinland, tell me every scene with thorkell isn't a huge tone shift. We don't hate Thorkell for it, he's just an eccentric character.

Vinland Saga is not THAT dark of an anime; it's not constantly dark on a maximum scale the way Berserk or Texhnolyze is. Most of the characters in Vinland Saga are very laidback, except Thorfinn. Thorkell is not that over the top to a point where he takes me out of the show. Vinland Saga is set in an era, where the characters are bloodthirsty maniacs, and Thorkell simply embodies that.

Jul 15, 2020 9:29 PM

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Jul 15, 2020 9:31 PM

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I was preparing mentally to see Subaru die again i guess not yet and I really wanna know what Beako relationship with the witch I've been curious about her backstory since season 1 . That opening visual is amazing all I can say is SUFFERING .

4/5

"Mountains, beings, and nature's laws are bound by an arrangement, and within it, we live." -Mushishi Zoku Shou Suzu No Shizuku

Jul 15, 2020 9:38 PM

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I’m liking the direction of the show. It seems like things are gonna get real interesting from here on out.

Jul 15, 2020 9:41 PM

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swordmaster2551 said:

thanks, I'm real bad about catching those frame inserts

Jul 15, 2020 9:51 PM

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AbsurdTurk said:

Heartyace said:

It's indeed not trying to emulate real life, never really said that either. I said we gain more sincere feelings due to the style of writing. There are exaggerated characters every where in RL btw. You might not think so because we ignore it like it doesn't exist. But I was walking to a restaurants and some lady was just swearing at me about nonsense (To be exact, she was like "Get out of here, You don't live here?!") She was young I ignored it, also first time I've seen her in my life, pretty sure same for her.

There's a difference between realistic quirky, and unrealistic quirky. Nobody in real life is like Beatrice, who speaks is an extremely obnoxious high pitched voice, and constantly says, "I suppose." Unless you have a serious mental disorder, nobody constantly yells at everything like Subaru.

Heartyace said:
You make it sound like it's consistently using bathos like some MCU movie. It's not. The light hearted scenes are far after climatic scenes. It's not like they cut tension to tell a joke. To give an example, they arrived at the house where they're supposed to be comfortable and the decompress. Where as the conversation with Beatrice, he approaches her in a much more friendly manner and the conversation gets more sour when he presses her for information. There wasn't a flip, that takes you out of the experience, but it was a slow progression to it like a real conversation.

I can get behind that.

Heartyace said:
You don't need a show to constantly have one tone, it usually makes for a very boring story if it is consistently serious. Sakurada reset is a very serious and good story. But it's very easy to find it boring due to the style and tone they take with it.

Re: Zero tries to be everything, and by trying to be everything, it ends up having no identity: it wants to be an edgy psychological thriller anime. But it also wants to be a light-hearted isekai anime with waifus and quirky humor. It wants you to desperately take it seriously, but doesn't want to alienate you at the same time. That's why this anime is so popular, if you ask me. Because it's broad, like the lyrics of a Linkin Park song, so that it appeals to everyone.
Avatar the Last Airbender manages to balance its contrasting tones by never being too light hearted, or too dramatic. But every tone in Re: Zero is at the extreme: the light hearted scenes are extremely light hearted. The dark scenes are extremely dark. Re: Zero relies on extreme tones: Avatar does not.
Re: Zero could've easily had a darker art style, while still having more light hearted scenes that aren't so light hearted that they completely take me out of the show.

Heartyace said:
Since you seem to be a fan of Vinland, tell me every scene with thorkell isn't a huge tone shift. We don't hate Thorkell for it, he's just an eccentric character.

Vinland Saga is not THAT dark of an anime; it's not constantly dark on a maximum scale the way Berserk or Texhnolyze is. Most of the characters in Vinland Saga are very laidback, except Thorfinn. Thorkell is not that over the top to a point where he takes me out of the show. Vinland Saga is set in an era, where the characters are bloodthirsty maniacs, and Thorkell simply embodies that.

For beatrice is your problem with the voice actress or the dialogue? Because absolutely nothing is wrong with habitual speech ticks in language. People walk around saying "Like" and "Man" in every sentence.That's a pet peeve. That's realistic. Someone having a problem nasally sounding voice is an aesthetics problem, it'll differ from person to person. I for one see no problem.

err, What do you get behind the MCU or the scene? Because I did like the scene myself.

In what world does Re:zero not have an identity? It's a fantasy drama, could potentially put tragedy, but you'll have to wait till the ending of the series. In a social context, it's an extremely popular anime, it maybe known for multiple things, that's up in the air for all viewers. Some may say full metal alchemist is an adventure anime others will deem it a Shounen. Shrug, who knows. Much easy for Re:zero since it's simply a fantasy Drama.

Again, not a topic I was addressing. I never said Vinland was "dark". Nor did I say Re:zero was "dark". Vinland deals with far more mature elements than Re:zero and when thorkell comes on the screen it feels like a shounen. He gets his fingers cut off in a fight to the death and waves good bye to is opponent. Immersion gone. There's a lot to unpack in the last sentence about vinland's characters. But not the thread for it. My point was Thorkell shifts the tone of the anime from serious to far more lighthearted just due to his personality not meshing well with the tone. There are 0 scenes with Thorkell where he's at the same tone as the atmosphere.

Edit: Every show has problems, Avatar although I like her Azula is a very unrelatable character in a very relatable cast. Avatar is indeed however one of those rare pieces of media that has very few faults.

HeartyaceJul 15, 2020 10:00 PM

Jul 15, 2020 9:53 PM

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Rob7 said:
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5. For Emilia, a deal is a DEAL.

“I wish Frederica had told us about it in more detail, but…she said she was constrained by a vow not to speak about the Sanctuary, so it couldn’t be helped.”
“All the same, I sure have been hearing a lot about vows and stuff…”
Subaru leaned back in his seat as he made a sound of dissatisfaction in his throat.
(...)
“Compared to that, she sure said to watch out for Garfiel a lot, including right before we left… Do people at the mansion have some sort of quota for cryptic statements?”
“I don’t think there’s any such thing, but that was Frederica doing all she could. We should be grateful she warned us as much as she did without breaking her vow.”
“I’d be even more grateful if she wasn’t bound by that vow, though…”
“Don’t sulk. A vow is a holy, inviolate pledge, not something one should breach for any reason. Vows, pacts, and covenants may bear different weight, but they should all be treated with equal respect.”
Emilia wagged a finger left and right as she spoke those words, seemingly for Subaru’s benefit.
It went without saying that Emilia was obstinate when it came to oaths of any kind. To Subaru, vows, pacts, and covenants were simple wordplay;
the two appreciated their importance in very divergent ways.
“I’m not saying you should break pledges every which way, but…there’s a time and a place for everything, right?”
“Absolutely not. Oaths…promises are very important. Properly speaking, there’s nothing forcing you to uphold a promise, but people uphold their promises anyway. They work hard to uphold them, don’t they? Even if no one’s watching, even if no one notices, they do it, because the other party believes they will do so.”
Emilia touched her chest, staring at Subaru in dismay at his words. Her tone of voice was gentle, with no hint whatsoever of reproach. The words hurt all the more for it.
“It’s because people believe in you that you strive to uphold the promises you’ve made. A promise is like a ritual tying two people together through mutual trust, isn’t it?”

I'm sad they cut out this conversation between Emilia and Subaru. Given how important it is going to be later on, and the fact that this whole arc's name is the "Everlasting CONTRACT". .sigh.

I hope they add it back later somehow.

Jul 15, 2020 10:06 PM

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Heartyace said:

For beatrice is your problem with the voice actress or the dialogue? Because absolutely nothing is wrong with habitual speech ticks in language. People walk around saying "Like" and "Man" in every sentence.That's a pet peeve. That's realistic.

No one says "I suppose" at the end of their sentence 24/7. People say like and man a lot. But that's it.

Heartyace said:
Someone having a problem nasally sounding voice is an aesthetics problem, it'll differ from person to person. I for one see no problem.

Alright.

Heartyace said:
err, What do you get behind the MCU or the scene? Because I did like the scene myself.

What you meant by the scene.

Heartyace said:
In what world does Re:zero not have an identity? It's a fantasy drama, could potentially put tragedy, but you'll have to wait till the ending of the series. In a social context, it's an extremely popular anime, it maybe known for multiple things, that's up in the air for all viewers.

How is Re: Zero a drama? I already explained why I think Re: Zero doesn't have an identity: it wants to be an edgy psychological thriller with lots of gore and death, while having very quirky characters, waifus, and a very light color pallette. Does this show want to be seen as dark? Light hearted? What does Re: Zero want to be? If Re: Zero is indeed supposed to be a dark fantasy drama, why aren't the aesthetics darker to match that? I explained how Avatar manages to have multiple tones that don't collide badly. And having a lot of bad things happen doesn't equate to tragedy; tragedy, in storytelling terms, is defined as:
"Tragedy is a genre of story in which a hero is brought down by his/her own flaws, usually by ordinary human flaws – flaws like greed, over-ambition, or even an excess of love, honor, or loyalty."
https://literaryterms.net/tragedy/

So for example, Berserk could easily be considered a tragedy because:

Heartyace said:
Some may say full metal alchemist is an adventure anime others will deem it a Shounen. Shrug, who knows. Much easy for Re:zero since it's simply a fantasy Drama.

FMA is a shounen adventure. Shounen is not a genre; it's a demographic.

Heartyace said:
Again, not a topic I was addressing. I never said Vinland was "dark". Nor did I say Re:zero was "dark". Vinland deals with far more mature elements than Re:zero and when thorkell comes on the screen it feels like a shounen. He gets his fingers cut off in a fight to the death and waves good bye to is opponent. Immersion gone. There's a lot to unpack in the last sentence about vinland's characters. But not the thread for it. My point was Thorkell shifts the tone of the anime from serious to far more lighthearted just due to his personality not meshing well with the tone. There are 0 scenes with Thorkell where he's at the same tone as the atmosphere.

I disagree on Vinland, but that's another can of worms to unpack. We'll probably end up going off topic with Vinland.

Jul 15, 2020 10:39 PM

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That opening was great. Pushing through all those deaths and still going. I've been wanting this Subaru since the end of season 1 gave us a taste. Now lets see how he really uses these deaths to his benefit.

Jul 15, 2020 10:49 PM

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I say "Bud" and my girlfriend says "I suppose" very often. You speak english and are american so you say like and man a lot. It's a result of your social community and culture. I don't say like often in french. Also Beatrice didn't say it at all when she got more involved in that scene.

Again, by the end, it could be a tragedy. If we're thinking about it literally, Sabaru is constantly brought to his death due to his virtue. By that definition, he's a tragic hero. But it's an exceptional situation because this guy never actually dies in the traditional sense.
Why do you keep saying it's trying to be dark? It can have mature elements and still be a fantasy story. Trying to pigeonhole your story isn't necessary. It certainly doesn't make the story any more immersive. The gore serves it's purpose, Subaru doesn't like to die because it hurts, the audience gets that. The drama if we're using that website - comes from every scene that deals with subaru experiencing death whether it's his friends or himself(Serious, negative emotions).

The FMA example was in a social context. I could've said people might experience it like a shinen due to the mature elements like sacrifice and grief or a shounen due to the lighthearted comedy. Also Shounen is a genre. Yes, it's a type of media for a demographic. Which makes it a form/style for a type of media.

Jul 15, 2020 11:09 PM

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Slow episode but it picks up at the end. We finally get to see Echidna. The OP is great, especially the visuals. It's always cool to see Subaru struggle, die and return stronger than ever. Echidna's smug face at the end though.

Jul 15, 2020 11:21 PM

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Damn that was so good especially after rewatching s1

Jul 15, 2020 11:21 PM

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Love the ED (or is it the OP played as the ED, I don’t know) Edit: Guess it was the OP, I listened to it, didn't watch it just in case it spoils.

Now this is where Arc 3 really starts, it definitely has a brand new feel to it. Not a lot of mysteries solves, but more questions now more than ever.

What was with that hand slap with Crusch lol.

I feel like I recall seeing Frederica in a flashback in Season 1, am I mistaken? Hmm...so she had to leave for personal reasons, I wonder what kind of reasons...I suddenly don’t trust her or Roswall as much anymore. Edit: Episode 11 apparently, there's not much to go off on, I knew she would be back, but I wonder what role she has to play in all this

Wow, so Beako is one of the only people that Roswall really trusts? Brings even more weight to Episode 7 when they had a standoff because of the contract she made, we're starting to see how much promises really matter in this world.

Finally, I’ve been waiting to hear from Beako for so long! She’s one of my favorite characters, so mysterious. It’s been revealed that she’s a spirit, not much of a surprise, more of a surprise that she knew Petelgeuse and even called him Geuse endearingly. So I guess they were friends back in the day? Most probably when she wasn’t a spirit and Petelgeuse wasn’t a Sin Archbishop because those two don’t seem to mix very well. I wonder if there’s more to Beako’s relationship with Puck, since it seems as though they are both prominent spirits. Are they really brother and sister (that one’s a little bit out there)? I guess Petelgeuse used to be a decent fellow until he was corrupted by love. And does that mean Beako knew this whole time Petelgeuse had surrounded the mansion? She didn't seem surprised and she already knew he Subaru had killed.

I always wondered how Petelgeuse got an Authority of Sloth from Satella if she probably only has the authority of Envy. Did he actually get it from his “Witch Factor” (benefactor of Authority?) The Witch of Sloth? Which means I guess I was right to think that perhaps Satella really didn’t eat all of the other witches that she was accused of doing. It would also explain why the Witch of Sloth can easily make another Archbishop if she so chooses, which may mean that killing Petelgeuse was but a minor inconvenience.

Apparently Geuse left her too, I guess she has a fair bit of traumatic backstory as well, we saw a little bit of sadness come out in Episode 17 of last season when Beako sent Subaru away. She must be old and have seen a lot of people she was close to dying while she lived on.

Roswall's intentions...hmm...he's getting even more suspicious...especially with Frederica saying she's done as Roswall directed, unless they are purposely trying to make him look suspicious as a red herring, don't tell me

Puck not coming out after leaving Emilia to Subaru is strange, can he not enter the Sanctuary? Did he return to his original form and have to take care of some business? Did he need to leave Emilia alone so she could pass the test of the Sanctuary?

I didn’t know this Sanctuary was this crucial to the story. I always thought of it as just a safe house.

Is Subaru in a dream? Was he really brought to this world by Satella or by Echidona? Where is Echidona? In a pocket universe or something? Looks like the same place in the first teaser trailer with all the dead bodies. Who is Garfiel? Is this all an illusion by Garfiel? If Garfiel that pink-haired elf? So many questions.

I liked the build up, gave us a little bit of a breather with comedy, maybe we'll be back to horror next week.

Note: All the questions I pose are simply rhetorical, just my thinking out loud. No spoilers please.

Despite trying not to give away anything, you actually kinda let it slip that you have read the novel. I understand you are building up something for the anime onlies, giving them food for thought, but don't slip information or things that haven't been referenced to yet in the anime. It was nothing major but I'm sure people with a sharp eye will catch on to it ezpz.

Jul 15, 2020 11:33 PM

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mozgow said:

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Its getting interesting with the witch here, but i hope to GOD, that Subaru is not retarded and instead of freaking out about the witch , he should talk to her and get informations out of her as many as he can. I rly hope he wont pull out some of that cringy dialogue, about how EVIL she is and blame her for some random bullshit he still dose not understand, instead of having his head into the goddamn game....

Why would he call her evil? She's not Satella and he has no reason to call her evil.

Ah...yes she is Satella, but my point is that freaking out and calling her names is a stupid move. A far better move would be to get information.

Jul 15, 2020 11:47 PM

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Rob7 said:
Some interesting dialogues and passages from the Light Novel, skipped in this episode::

It is NOT spoiler, since are about events already exhibited in the episode.

1. The losses and concerns of Crusch Faction.

2. The second advice of Felix

3. The very important dialogue with Otto

4. The meaning of Petra's handkerchief

5. For Emilia, a deal is a DEAL.

“I wish Frederica had told us about it in more detail, but…she said she was constrained by a vow not to speak about the Sanctuary, so it couldn’t be helped.”
“All the same, I sure have been hearing a lot about vows and stuff…”
Subaru leaned back in his seat as he made a sound of dissatisfaction in his throat.
(...)
“Compared to that, she sure said to watch out for Garfiel a lot, including right before we left… Do people at the mansion have some sort of quota for cryptic statements?”
“I don’t think there’s any such thing, but that was Frederica doing all she could. We should be grateful she warned us as much as she did without breaking her vow.”
“I’d be even more grateful if she wasn’t bound by that vow, though…”
“Don’t sulk. A vow is a holy, inviolate pledge, not something one should breach for any reason. Vows, pacts, and covenants may bear different weight, but they should all be treated with equal respect.”
Emilia wagged a finger left and right as she spoke those words, seemingly for Subaru’s benefit.
It went without saying that Emilia was obstinate when it came to oaths of any kind. To Subaru, vows, pacts, and covenants were simple wordplay;
the two appreciated their importance in very divergent ways.
“I’m not saying you should break pledges every which way, but…there’s a time and a place for everything, right?”
“Absolutely not. Oaths…promises are very important. Properly speaking, there’s nothing forcing you to uphold a promise, but people uphold their promises anyway. They work hard to uphold them, don’t they? Even if no one’s watching, even if no one notices, they do it, because the other party believes they will do so.”
Emilia touched her chest, staring at Subaru in dismay at his words. Her tone of voice was gentle, with no hint whatsoever of reproach. The words hurt all the more for it.
“It’s because people believe in you that you strive to uphold the promises you’ve made. A promise is like a ritual tying two people together through mutual trust, isn’t it?”

Any was truly not necessary, but it sets the panorama better. In other hand, most of anime watchers would be bored as hell with the slow pace of all other passages under excessive narration.

That is why i preffer to 1st watch the episode, then complement it with the light novel, if possible, never the opposite.

But the 1st five episodes of this season i already covered doing the same with the manga, which for me is a experience different, but so as good as watch the anime, and not tiring like advancing in novel only.

so why the handkerchief petra gave to subaru teleported to petra hand ?

Jul 15, 2020 11:51 PM

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anime-prime said:
The OP (ED in this episode) was great. It was mostly a comedic slow paced episode, but the last scene spells great potential for the upcoming episodes.

The conversation between Subaru and Beatrice was enlightening and I have a few theories based off what Beatrice said and didn't say, but just in case my theories are right, I don't want to spoil others accidentally.

I don't recall Emilia acting so much like a tsundere before, but she earned full tsundere marks this episode.

the way beatrice called petelgeuse as geuse really bugging me, how does she know her? Is she a part of the witch cult? Does roswaal actually th good guy or the bad guy? Damn im curious

Jul 15, 2020 11:55 PM

#229

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I wonder what has happened with Puck, as he isn't appearing?
What is Beatrice's relationship with Betelgeuse, as what certainly said some interesting things?
Whats gonna happen with The Sanctuary, and The witch of Greed?

So many questions from this episode, hopefully they answer some of them soon.

But on good thing is Petra is now a maid at the mansion.

Jul 16, 2020 12:22 AM

#230

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Because of the ongoing discussion about "Identity of Re:Zero"
Honestly i have to laugh at that psycho-pseudo-analysis of Keyboardwarriors in MAL but due me haveing time let me enlighten you what this show is about.

Tappei wrote Re:Zero because he was fed up/frustrated about several archetypes/tropes & trends.
He disliked how people on mass used the Iskeai trend to create powerfantasys male MCs who get a harem of empty female tropes/archetrypes to please every fetish.
He dislikes the White Knight theme behind said Isekai & Harem protagonist who saves the day at the end & princess carrys all the female characters.

He disliked overall the whole depiction of Isekai MCs as majority of them on a second thought are either pure Psychopaths or Sociapaths who pick & choose whatever they want regarding killing & not killing.

Subaru is a MC who is exactly that. A real human who gets Isekaid. (Keep in mind Subaru is a regular human who has psychological problems)
Ofc the Anime/Manga/LN fan Subaru is he belives this is his dream come true & what does he do? He acts like a Iskeai MC aka copys the behavior of these Isekai MCs from his manga/Anime/LightNovels.

Which ends up getting him where? Killed Killed Killed more Killed even more Killed. Deader than Death.
Heck as Fate would Say People die if they are a Killed but Subaru doenst die even if he gets Killed.

Each time Subaru follows the typciall Isekai MC White Knight he get beaten up or killed he pays the price.
Subaru never shows his real self he always acts & pretends. The few glimpes we saw how pathetic Subaru thinks of himself and the deppression he has + shitty awkard personality is only a glimpse until now aka season 4 will show us how Subaru lived on Earth.

Subaru is not powerfull.
Subaru is punished for every mistake he makes.
Subaru is pretending to be someone he is not
Subaru is barely hanging onto sanity
At the end of the day Subaru has to cast all MC iskeai bullshit aside to safe everyone. He has to depend on everyone else regarding powers & fights. He himself can only lead people in the right direction but never is able overcome the problems on his own. Its always Emilia & Co who solves the problems while Subaru just pushes them in the right direction.

He is not SwordAssOnline harem MC.
Is not GodModeJesus-kun
He is merely a pathetic human who has serious problems suriving in this fantasy world while trying to keep the people around him alive at the cost of his own sanity.

Re:Zero is about decontructing Isekai-Harem-Powerfantasy MCs tropes.

PS: fun fact Re:Zeros Author & Konosubas Author who both created their specific works because of the frustation regarding the Iskeai trend (Konosuba with parody aka laughing at all the stupid tropes & Re:Zero by punishing the MC when he acts & uses the tropes)
Gave their MCs their own names aka Konosuba gave his MC the partyl the name of Re:Zero authors real name.
And Re:Zeros author gave his MC partly the name of Konosubas author
Because they are best friends according to themselves.

Jul 16, 2020 12:31 AM

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Rob7 said:
Some interesting dialogues and passages from the Light Novel, skipped in this episode::

It is NOT spoiler, since are about events already exhibited in the episode.

1. The losses and concerns of Crusch Faction.

2. The second advice of Felix

3. The very important dialogue with Otto

4. The meaning of Petra's handkerchief

5. For Emilia, a deal is a DEAL.

“I wish Frederica had told us about it in more detail, but…she said she was constrained by a vow not to speak about the Sanctuary, so it couldn’t be helped.”
“All the same, I sure have been hearing a lot about vows and stuff…”
Subaru leaned back in his seat as he made a sound of dissatisfaction in his throat.
(...)
“Compared to that, she sure said to watch out for Garfiel a lot, including right before we left… Do people at the mansion have some sort of quota for cryptic statements?”
“I don’t think there’s any such thing, but that was Frederica doing all she could. We should be grateful she warned us as much as she did without breaking her vow.”
“I’d be even more grateful if she wasn’t bound by that vow, though…”
“Don’t sulk. A vow is a holy, inviolate pledge, not something one should breach for any reason. Vows, pacts, and covenants may bear different weight, but they should all be treated with equal respect.”
Emilia wagged a finger left and right as she spoke those words, seemingly for Subaru’s benefit.
It went without saying that Emilia was obstinate when it came to oaths of any kind. To Subaru, vows, pacts, and covenants were simple wordplay;
the two appreciated their importance in very divergent ways.
“I’m not saying you should break pledges every which way, but…there’s a time and a place for everything, right?”
“Absolutely not. Oaths…promises are very important. Properly speaking, there’s nothing forcing you to uphold a promise, but people uphold their promises anyway. They work hard to uphold them, don’t they? Even if no one’s watching, even if no one notices, they do it, because the other party believes they will do so.”
Emilia touched her chest, staring at Subaru in dismay at his words. Her tone of voice was gentle, with no hint whatsoever of reproach. The words hurt all the more for it.
“It’s because people believe in you that you strive to uphold the promises you’ve made. A promise is like a ritual tying two people together through mutual trust, isn’t it?”

Any was truly not necessary, but it sets the panorama better. In other hand, most of anime watchers would be bored as hell with the slow pace of all other passages under excessive narration.

That is why i preffer to 1st watch the episode, then complement it with the light novel, if possible, never the opposite.

But the 1st five episodes of this season i already covered doing the same with the manga, which for me is a experience different, but so as good as watch the anime, and not tiring like advancing in novel only.

..that otto (point 3) things make me laugh, thanks man XD
This is what i seek, someone who can compare the current anime episode with the LN or WN, without telling (spoiling) what happen next..
once again, thank you~

Kyoshudisikai said:
so why the handkerchief petra gave to subaru teleported to petra hand ?

Well, shoulda ask that to the studio who adapt it.. Maybe, we'll got some Director Cut version where they fix that problem (well, if)

---
I'm feeling that the story progresses too quick (or maybe its just me? dunno)..
but oh well, as long i can see it being animated, i enjoy :D

[Personal score: 8~9/10]
---
The OP animation is good, but i prefer the first OP animation (Redo) because:

Jul 16, 2020 12:36 AM

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MonoReaper said:
Because of the ongoing discussion about "Identity of Re:Zero"
Honestly i have to laugh at that psycho-pseudo-analysis of Keyboardwarriors in MAL but due me haveing time let me enlighten you what this show is about.

Tappei wrote Re:Zero because he was fed up/frustrated about several archetypes/tropes & trends.
He disliked how people on mass used the Iskeai trend to create powerfantasys male MCs who get a harem of empty female tropes/archetrypes to please every fetish.
He dislikes the White Knight theme behind said Isekai & Harem protagonist who saves the day at the end & princess carrys all the female characters.

He disliked overall the whole depiction of Isekai MCs as majority of them on a second thought are either pure Psychopaths or Sociapaths who pick & choose whatever they want regarding killing & not killing.

Subaru is a MC who is exactly that. A real human who gets Isekaid. (Keep in mind Subaru is a regular human who has psychological problems)
Ofc the Anime/Manga/LN fan Subaru is he belives this is his dream come true & what does he do? He acts like a Iskeai MC aka copys the behavior of these Isekai MCs from his manga/Anime/LightNovels.

Which ends up getting him where? Killed Killed Killed more Killed even more Killed. Deader than Death.
Heck as Fate would Say People die if they are a Killed but Subaru doenst die even if he gets Killed.

Each time Subaru follows the typciall Isekai MC White Knight he get beaten up or killed he pays the price.
Subaru never shows his real self he always acts & pretends. The few glimpes we saw how pathetic Subaru thinks of himself and the deppression he has + shitty awkard personality is only a glimpse until now aka season 4 will show us how Subaru lived on Earth.

Subaru is not powerfull.
Subaru is punished for every mistake he makes.
Subaru is pretending to be someone he is not
Subaru is barely hanging onto sanity
At the end of the day Subaru has to cast all MC iskeai bullshit aside to safe everyone. He has to depend on everyone else regarding powers & fights. He himself can only lead people in the right direction but never is able overcome the problems on his own. Its always Emilia & Co who solves the problems while Subaru just pushes them in the right direction.

He is not SwordAssOnline harem MC.
Is not GodModeJesus-kun
He is merely a pathetic human who has serious problems suriving in this fantasy world while trying to keep the people around him alive at the cost of his own sanity.

Re:Zero is about decontructing Isekai-Harem-Powerfantasy MCs tropes.

PS: fun fact Re:Zeros Author & Konosubas Author who both created their specific works because of the frustation regarding the Iskeai trend (Konosuba with parody aka laughing at all the stupid tropes & Re:Zero by punishing the MC when he acts & uses the tropes)
Gave their MCs their own names aka Konosuba gave his MC the partyl the name of Re:Zero authors real name.
And Re:Zeros author gave his MC partly the name of Konosubas author
Because they are best friends according to themselves.

God tier post here ladies and gentlemans. I couldn't agree more heh, nice job man ^-^

Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I?

Jul 16, 2020 1:10 AM

#233

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Is it just me or did the white cloth disappear from Subaru's hand and appeared on Petra's hand

Jul 16, 2020 1:12 AM

#234

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Frederica and Echidna turned out to be not the same as I imagined them, although I am satisfied, but damn, what an annoying Otto. It feels like they originally wanted to make him a girl, but then decided that Subaru's harem was already big enough. Every time I see him, a toxic masculinity wakes up in me lol.

I can't wait to see Garfil. He is my favorite male character after Subaru and Reinhard.

@MonoReaper Are there still people who don’t understand how deeply and well ReZero deconstructs the generic Isekai shit? I thought for a long time that only haters deny it.

Jul 16, 2020 1:23 AM

#235

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okay build up episode on whats to come....

damn that op got me a goosebumps same with previous op of rezero

5/5 episode because best girl Echidna show up even it was just a seconds xD

B O C C H I S W E E P

Jul 16, 2020 1:50 AM

#236

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That's really really really a hype episode. damn the ending gave me screaming moment, Rezero cliffhanger strikes again. Echidna!!! My waifu meter is exceeding it's limit.

By the way the OP was so hype, from what I see he looks he's going to die more than what he experience in season 1.

Frederica was hot as well as Petra also.... cute.

Jul 16, 2020 2:09 AM

#237

mozgow

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NoviSun said:
I thought this is the first time that Beatrice confirmed as a spirit.

Well yes, but actually no.

mozgowJul 16, 2020 2:43 AM

Jul 16, 2020 2:38 AM

#238

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AbsurdTurk said:

Despite this, I still am bothered by the contrasting tones of this show: the fact that in the same series where the MC gets brutally murdered multiple times, there is a fetishized trap (I have no problem with crossdressing; but when it's fetishized, it's hard to take seriously), characters overreacting, and a very go-happy color palette. It's like this series wants to be taken seriously, but not alienate viewers, so it becomes a mish-mash of all tones, trying to be everything, but being nothing, tone wise. I don't understand why fans of this show aren't the least bit bothered by this.

Agreed, it so annoying how ppl act , especialy subaru. He faces death on a daily baisis, yet he still cracks jokes and acts like a retard. Why dose he not ask smart questions whenever he gets the chance? Like seriously, he knows that he keeps dieing because he lacks information every time, yet he dose not aquire information....so stupid.

Jul 16, 2020 2:43 AM

#239

Hid3nGuy

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is it just me or this ep felt rushed compared to the last one?
Beatrice scene and Frederica introduction felt little short.

Jul 16, 2020 2:58 AM

#240

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The pacing is a little weaker this episode, but the characterisation seems to be heading in the right direction. The problem is, Subaru's characterisation has to be handled with care, otherwise, it'll fall into a trap of repeating the arc from last season.

I have faith though; let's see how it goes.

We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths.
As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are.
That's what death is, don't you think?

------------------------------------
Itachi Uchiha

Jul 16, 2020 3:22 AM

#241

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Subaru pathetic attempts of humor make me want hit a wall with my head, like usual. The OP is pretty damn good.

Soo this sanctuary will be a test for Emilia, eh? And the library loli knew betelgeuse. But why? Soo many questions.

Jul 16, 2020 4:19 AM

#242

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MonoReaper said:
Because of the ongoing discussion about "Identity of Re:Zero"
Honestly i have to laugh at that psycho-pseudo-analysis of Keyboardwarriors in MAL but due me haveing time let me enlighten you what this show is about.

Tappei wrote Re:Zero because he was fed up/frustrated about several archetypes/tropes & trends.
He disliked how people on mass used the Iskeai trend to create powerfantasys male MCs who get a harem of empty female tropes/archetrypes to please every fetish.
He dislikes the White Knight theme behind said Isekai & Harem protagonist who saves the day at the end & princess carrys all the female characters.

He disliked overall the whole depiction of Isekai MCs as majority of them on a second thought are either pure Psychopaths or Sociapaths who pick & choose whatever they want regarding killing & not killing.

Subaru is a MC who is exactly that. A real human who gets Isekaid. (Keep in mind Subaru is a regular human who has psychological problems)
Ofc the Anime/Manga/LN fan Subaru is he belives this is his dream come true & what does he do? He acts like a Iskeai MC aka copys the behavior of these Isekai MCs from his manga/Anime/LightNovels.

Which ends up getting him where? Killed Killed Killed more Killed even more Killed. Deader than Death.
Heck as Fate would Say People die if they are a Killed but Subaru doenst die even if he gets Killed.

Each time Subaru follows the typciall Isekai MC White Knight he get beaten up or killed he pays the price.
Subaru never shows his real self he always acts & pretends. The few glimpes we saw how pathetic Subaru thinks of himself and the deppression he has + shitty awkard personality is only a glimpse until now aka season 4 will show us how Subaru lived on Earth.

Subaru is not powerfull.
Subaru is punished for every mistake he makes.
Subaru is pretending to be someone he is not
Subaru is barely hanging onto sanity
At the end of the day Subaru has to cast all MC iskeai bullshit aside to safe everyone. He has to depend on everyone else regarding powers & fights. He himself can only lead people in the right direction but never is able overcome the problems on his own. Its always Emilia & Co who solves the problems while Subaru just pushes them in the right direction.

He is not SwordAssOnline harem MC.
Is not GodModeJesus-kun
He is merely a pathetic human who has serious problems suriving in this fantasy world while trying to keep the people around him alive at the cost of his own sanity.

Re:Zero is about decontructing Isekai-Harem-Powerfantasy MCs tropes.

PS: fun fact Re:Zeros Author & Konosubas Author who both created their specific works because of the frustation regarding the Iskeai trend (Konosuba with parody aka laughing at all the stupid tropes & Re:Zero by punishing the MC when he acts & uses the tropes)
Gave their MCs their own names aka Konosuba gave his MC the partyl the name of Re:Zero authors real name.
And Re:Zeros author gave his MC partly the name of Konosubas author
Because they are best friends according to themselves.

Post for put in a frame.

Also, everytime you think Subaru (or Shinji) was being a stupid p**, you remember "ah no, the f** author is doing it on purpose", and then you switch the episode with Sword Art Online.

Next episode, following the "conversation" between Barusu and the albine witch there, i will be sparing a episode of Slime-kun for medicine.

Because i'm a human, and i'm not supposed to neglect the obvious tastes for a decent MC to pretend that every pseudo forced realism is cool. Kashira~

Rob7Jul 16, 2020 4:40 AM

Jul 16, 2020 4:27 AM

#243

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So this episode lost me, when did Ram and Roswaal go to the Sanctuary. Was it when Subaru evactuated everyone in the first season? I'll have to rewatch the episode since I didn't fully understand...

Jul 16, 2020 5:13 AM

#244

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@irondark30:

Rob7 said:

S1 - Ep. 24, around 6min.

The meeting of Emilia with Wilhelm and Ram in the mansion.

Ram also tells Emilia that Rosswall was heading there at the same time.

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Kyoshudisikai said:

so why the handkerchief petra gave to subaru teleported to petra hand ?

They both have it. Subaru's one is hidden in his wrist under the indestructible sportsuit he brought from his world.

Indestructible.

Btw, in the Light Novel the one at Petra's pulse is not described in any moment because it would not make sense, since the charm is to the beloved one keep it, use it to remember the lady and retrieve it back.

What means they skipped the lines AND added the second handkerchief on purpose to turn all the scene more a childish "let's keep it togheter", than a "it is actually a charm for you to marry me!"

Btw, if i was Subaru in a REALLY "reality based" plot of a normal human summowned to a fantasy land, 1st i would not be killed several times because i would never stick my nose (nor my d*) in obvious dangerous matters involving creatures like half-elf, demi-human, demons, magicians... and would just stay with normal humans, find a honest way to survival, and a girl like Petra in 5 years later would be an amazing partner, that would not kill me with a simple punch or spell after the 1st usual couple quarrel.

Petra is best (normal) girl (and normal is best)

Rob7Jul 16, 2020 5:19 AM

Jul 16, 2020 5:18 AM

#245

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So Beatrice has some sort of connection to Beetleguise? She seems to know a lot more about the witches then most people do. Which is very intriguing.
I thought that that Beatrice Scene was very well done.

Decent episode overall. Fredrica is awesome I love her already and it turns out we meet Echidna.

I guess Puck is taking a little time off.

There were a lot of cute Emilia and Subaru moments as well.

SoraSenpaiJul 16, 2020 5:26 AM

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Jul 16, 2020 5:21 AM

#246

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And The Plot Thickens

Jul 16, 2020 6:07 AM

#247

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The plot really is starting to thicken now, even in an episode which felt more calm and relaxing until the last few minutes.

Frederica's teeth looks like it was pinched from a lone wolf, so her toothy grin looked pretty wild and awesome. Thankfully, she was a former maid of the Roswaal Mansion who took up her post again by the request of Ram. So far, her personality and welcoming and she's really nice, too.

Not just that, but Petra decided to take the opportunity to work at the mansion, too. She's only 12, but she wants to be treated like a grown-up, huh? Her optimism, and her smiles, is really cute, though. ^_^

The calmness of the episode was blown away during the last few minutes of the episode when Subaru, Emilia and Otto entered the lost woods while on their way to the sanctuary, where Subaru ended up getting separated. Not only did he encounter a pink-haired elf, but he would eventually encounter Echidna.

The OP was used as the ED for this episode, but it was awesome. Great vocals and the production quality of the animation was very good, too. It leaves me hyped up for the next episode already. =3

Jul 16, 2020 6:13 AM

#248

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alhiris said:
Damn, this episode was finally a normal one, without something going bad in the second half of the episode.
Also that ending elicits only one reaction from me: NANI?!?

Totally agree! Btw the OP at the end is wonderful and so good.

Jul 16, 2020 6:17 AM

#249

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They finally showed the opening. It's a decent episode. Can't wait for another week for it!

Jul 16, 2020 6:26 AM

#250

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I'm missing the whoaaayeeeaaayaaai~

Good thing i have the whoaaayeeeaaayaaai~ right here ready to use:

https://www.myinstants.com/instant/re-zero-whoaaayeeeaaayaaai/

I guess im going to rewatch the first episodes aplying the sound myself in the right moments.

"Who is Rem²?" whoaaayeeeaaayaaai~

"Subaru got teleported!" whoaaayeeeaaayaaai~

"Puck tells Subaru: i'm counting on you" whoaaayeeeaaayaaai~

"Frederica smiles!" whoaaayeeeaaayaaai~

"Otto: i didnt washed my hands"...

...
whoaaayeeeaaayaaai!

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