Vinland Saga
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| Askeladd killed the king, went on a rampage and fucked shit up. Damn can’t believe Canute killed him... he carried the whole season and now Thorfinn doesn’t have any motivation but probably focus on Canute. Shit that stung, the one thing I didn’t want to happen, happened. Not how I wanted to start my morning. Many years were shed. |
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| Such a perfect anime! Anime of the year 2019 for me! Love every part of it! <3 |
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| How quickly Askeladd reacted facing this choice was so impressive. A death worthy of his character. Honestly, I did not see something of this magnitude happen despite the setup. Sadly enough, he had to die experiencing another one of Thorfinn's tantrums instead of falling of a cliff or dying instantly to a fatal blow. Biggest selling point of this show was the scenario with the 2nd half and its focus on Askeladd and Canute definetly being more entertaining. 8/10 |
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| Sleep well Lucius Artorius Castus, you glorious bastard Listen to your adoptive father, Thorfinn.  |
IwaOi-KHRStan said: XXXXXXXXXIII said: Right... Maybe you should stick to Shounen for now, since Seinen is clearly too early for you. I don't think the art is great, but music is very good. Also if Thorfinn is the one you are whining about then you didn't watch this show properly. sure, a stupid useless brat at 17 unable to protect himself with his own hands, in a seinen... what a joke Further proof that you should just stick with shonen jump. (No offense, jump is great, but you will eventually grow out of it) |
| Amazing final episode to a fantastic show. The first half I was kinda indifferent about but the second half was an absolute masterpiece in my opinion. I'll give it a 9/10 but it's very very close to a 10/10 |
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| This show has had a few bumps along the way, but it's also had a few episodes that can only be described as fantastic, and this finale was one of those. The direction was excellent and Askeladd's intense rage, along with Thorfinn's absolute agony, were captured perfectly in some of the most intense scenes I've seen in an anime. There's few words that can really do the excellence of this final episode justice. Overall, this was one of my three contenders for anime of the year, with some of the best individual episodes I've seen in a long time, but the barren stretch from around episode 11 to around episode 18 (village massacre notwithstanding) meant it just fell short of that. Here's hoping we get a second season, but whatever happens I'll be picking up the manga in the meantime. 9/10 |
| I really liked the balls Askeladd had, his scene, but this series as a whole has left me whelmed and disappointed. Especially since there are effectively no interesting characters left. The two reviews rating this series as average couldn't summarize the problems I have better. Especially @XHellLyterX's. Though, none really touched on how this is that brand of "seinen" that isn't "real seinen", it just has "mature" things like rape, murder, etc. A distinction without too much a difference, but one that irritates me nonetheless |
YautjaDec 29, 2019 12:13 PM
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IwaOi-KHRStan said: Yes, he's an idiot who grew up with the sole purpose in life of getting revenge for his dad's death. If it was a shounen he'd be succeeding, but it's seinen so he gets shit on every step of the way and eventually fails. Now with the sole purpose of his life taken away he's finally forced to grow. Of course he's a stupid spoiled child, that's the whole point. And that's why it's so entertaining to see him get shit on.XXXXXXXXXIII said: Right... Maybe you should stick to Shounen for now, since Seinen is clearly too early for you. I don't think the art is great, but music is very good. Also if Thorfinn is the one you are whining about then you didn't watch this show properly. sure, a stupid useless brat at 17 unable to protect himself with his own hands, in a seinen... what a joke |
| Omfg. What a finale. I feel blessed to have watched this masterpiece of a series. Such an epic conclusion The only thing that made me kind of sad is that thorkinn didn't get to kill askeladd, but I think that in that scenario they were in it just wasn't appropriate for him to do so. The last bit with the flashbacks on the sword... oh, my god. Anime of the year without a doubt! 10/10 |
| Who were those characters supposed to be at the end, mainly the guy on the boat? |
| - The legendary Courier |
| Good end to the series. Hoping we get a 2nd season. 1st half of the series was an 8 out of 10. 2nd half a 9 of out 10. Overall, I'd give it a 9. |
fabled_courier said: Who were those characters supposed to be at the end, mainly the guy on the boat? Foreshadowing characters who appear later in the manga. |
| Waited 7 years to experience this wonderful story animated and i feel a little empty now that the season is over but what a magnificent ride it was. Wit's Studio (for the most part) greatly exceeded my expectations and managed to portray, with a lot of passion, why the Vinland Saga manga is considered among the greatest and often compared to genre classics such as Berserk, Vagabond and Kingdom. One of the biggest challenges a filmmaker has is how to portray emotions since movies (or in this cased anime series) are made up of images in movement that display actions, yet this story accomplishes that with such deep and compelliing characterization, this story feels human, it feels real. I keep hearing, not only on these forums, how much Vinland makes people cry and be on the edge of their seats. I really hope this trend of animating good seinens with solid stories continues instead of the oversupply of generic and mediocre shounen shows and that insipid new isekai trend that's been plaguing anime for recent years. 20th Century Boys, Vagabond, Real, Shamo, hell give us a proper Berserk and Kingdom anime for once, that would make us older audiences, who grew up with 80's 90's anime, happy. Fitting end to one the best characters ever written and for the best anime of 2019 (only AOTs3p2 comes close). I would also give this anime the best sound direction in the year thanks to the great job done by the VA and the wonderful yet subtle soundtrack used in the perfect occasions (they know when to use silence and not just plague each scene with music) For those that truly enjoyed the show i would recommend you pick up the manga and re-read the prologue, there's a couple of details that were skipped in the anime that are worth of your time. And @MODS please put some order, before us users are forced to go all Askeladd mode on these attention seeking parasite trolls who got nothing better to do with their lives that come to these subforums to stir the pot and downgrade the votes. |
| This anime is a complete masterpiece. Anime of the decade. |
| Great payoff episode. Askeladd finally reaches his end, but unfortunately it's not at the hands of Thorfinn. The flashes of moments in the show reflected on the dagger really hit it for me. Was kinda surprised Thorkell didn't say anything to Thorfinn at the end. I was kind of expecting a "you're a disappointment compared to Thors" shpiel when Thorfinn went crazy, but I guess just seeing him off without saying anything is disappointment enough. |
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IwaOi-KHRStan said: eglepe said: Yes, he's an idiot who grew up with the sole purpose in life of getting revenge for his dad's death. If it was a shounen he'd be succeeding, but it's seinen so he gets shit on every step of the way and eventually fails. Now with the sole purpose of his life taken away he's finally forced to grow. Of course he's a stupid spoiled child, that's the whole point. And that's why it's so entertaining to see him get shit on. for you, and you have my respect for it. i found it boring and annoying all the time, not entertaining at all. i can't find entertaining at all a useless brat who is unable to evolve. thwe worst thing you can do is falling and giving up, as he does each time. he's not able to recover alone, and it's a bad thing. Heh funny to mention respect cause after your little "rants" no one here is ever gonna have a shred of that for you. XD |
| I used to be a watchmaker. |
| I'm floored. What an impeccable final episode for a phenomenal series. I literally screamed when Askkeladd just lopped the kings head off. So incredible. Plz season 2 at some point. Almost want to give this a 10/10 but I think I'll stick with 9 for now. |
Yautja said: I really liked the balls Askeladd had, his scene, but this series as a whole has left me whelmed and disappointed. Especially since there are effectively no interesting characters left. The two reviews rating this series as average couldn't summarize the problems I have better. Especially @XHellLyterX's. Though, none really touched on how this is that brand of "seinen" that isn't "real seinen", it just has "mature" things like rape, murder, etc. A distinction without too much a difference, but one that irritates me nonetheless Good point! And I get what you mean At least I think I do lol. The anime itself definitely felt more like a shounen to me, just with the addition of a few particularly mature sequences to give the illusion that the show's a lot darker and deeper than it really is. Well, that's what I think anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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XHellLyterX said: Yautja said: I really liked the balls Askeladd had, his scene, but this series as a whole has left me whelmed and disappointed. Especially since there are effectively no interesting characters left. The two reviews rating this series as average couldn't summarize the problems I have better. Especially @XHellLyterX's. Though, none really touched on how this is that brand of "seinen" that isn't "real seinen", it just has "mature" things like rape, murder, etc. A distinction without too much a difference, but one that irritates me nonetheless Good point! And I get what you mean At least I think I do lol. The anime itself definitely felt more like a shounen to me, just with the addition of a few particularly mature sequences to give the illusion that the show's a lot darker and deeper than it really is. Well, that's what I think anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ People who find the show to be juvenile just for its violence and brutality (which I would completely disagree with) will find the next arc to be more their taste and truly "earn" its seinen label if S1 didnt already. |
| I thought nothing would hit me harder than the ending of Code Geass. I was wrong. Season 2 needs to have an announcment. |
| they foreshadow next arc characters :'') |
Yautja said: I really liked the balls Askeladd had, his scene, but this series as a whole has left me whelmed and disappointed. Especially since there are effectively no interesting characters left. The two reviews rating this series as average couldn't summarize the problems I have better. Especially @XHellLyterX's. Though, none really touched on how this is that brand of "seinen" that isn't "real seinen", it just has "mature" things like rape, murder, etc. A distinction without too much a difference, but one that irritates me nonetheless Stop thinking too much about demographics. In the Beastars episode you said Beastars should be seinen because seinen = mature themes and now in Vinland just because we have action sometimes = shounen. This is not how it works, lmao. |
| this finale made me give this show a 10/10. i couldn't have asked for a better ending to the prologue. it's been a while since an anime made me cry, but askeladd's last words combined with that damn music made me lose it. sure there were a few things about the anime that i wish were better, but there were also things that really surprised me that i loved. i hold the manga in such a high regard, i truly think it is a berserk/vagabond-level classic epic, and the anime did it justice. overall, this story is one of the best i've ever experienced. and i literally couldn't stop smiling when they showed hints of hild, gudrid, and einar at the end -- i heard rumors that this might not get a season 2, but now i have hope!! i want to see thofinn's journey continue until the end |
| In the end Canute was the one who killed Askeladd. All the years spent on revenge have gone to waste. His expression at the end hurt. Sad to see Askeladd go. He will be missed. The prologue is finally over! I really hope we get a season 2 of this show. |
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Govava said: To everybody complaining about Thorfinn for not having "any character development": it's called negative character development and is more complex. that's true! when done well (which it is in this story), it definitely adds a very realistic element. more often then not, humans don't always learn from their mistakes. his obsession with revenge destroyed his life and he didn't realize it -- and it may be obvious from the outside, but when you're the one in that situation, it's not easy to see. that makes his character that much more complex and real, especially when we consider his trauma, how he grew up, and how alone he truly was for years. thorfinn's journey in the prologue was not an upward arc, it was a simply a descent into revenge... and now that his revenge has been taken from him, he's at his lowest, so he finally must learn from his mistakes after this point. i think many people don't realize that this season is just the beginning of thorfinn's character arc, so they expect in 24 episodes for him to have a full turnaround. |
Ottes said: Stop thinking too much about demographics. In the Beastars episode you said Beastars should be seinen because seinen = mature themes and now in Vinland just because we have action sometimes = shounen. This is not how it works, lmao. That's because that's not what I said at all, but an abhorrent straw-man. I said Beastars wasn't shounen and was either seinen or neither for a laundry list of reasons across multiple threads. I in absolutely no way said action = shounen (in fact, that is the opposite of what I've said). And in this thread I put the quotes around word mature for a reason, genius. It was sarcasm. Those things do not make something mature or seinen. That's literally the point of the comment you're quoting. UglyBarnacle said: It's not that the violence or brutality is juvenile, it's that it's being used as a mask to give an air of maturity. Having violence, rape, murder, gore or whatever doesn't make something mature or appeal to an older audience, they're just things that are not typically appropriate for younger audiences; just because A != B, does not mean A == C (fallacy of composition). While they are often used in things that are "proper seinen", they're also often used erroneously to unjustly earn the label (think Akame Ga Kill, Shi ga Futari wo Wakatsu made, etc). When things revolve Askkeladd, it's proper seinen, be it character, story or w.e, but when Thorfinn comes around doing his Naruto running, it's shounen in a mask.People who find the show to be juvenile just for its violence and brutality (which I would completely disagree with) will find the next arc to be more their taste and truly "earn" its seinen label if S1 didnt already. |
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| Not gonna lie I'm kinda pissed that they gave Askeladd a honorable death, I didn't like him at all But overall it was a good ending, went from 7/10 to 8/10 |
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Yautja said: Ottes said: Stop thinking too much about demographics. In the Beastars episode you said Beastars should be seinen because seinen = mature themes and now in Vinland just because we have action sometimes = shounen. This is not how it works, lmao. That's because that's not what I said at all, but an abhorrent straw-man. I said Beastars wasn't shounen and was either seinen or neither for a laundry list of reasons across multiple threads. I in absolutely no way said action = shounen (in fact, that is the opposite of what I've said). And in this thread I put the quotes around word mature for a reason, genius. It was sarcasm. Those things do not make something mature or seinen. That's literally the point of the comment you're quoting. UglyBarnacle said: It's not that the violence or brutality is juvenile, it's that it's being used as a mask to give an air of maturity. Having violence, rape, murder, gore or whatever doesn't make something mature or appeal to an older audience, they're just things that are not typically appropriate for younger audiences; just because A != B, does not mean A == C (fallacy of composition). While they are often used in things that are "proper seinen", they're also often used erroneously to unjustly earn the label (think Akame Ga Kill, Shi ga Futari wo Wakatsu made, etc). When things revolve Askkeladd, it's proper seinen, be it character, story or w.e, but when Thorfinn comes around doing his Naruto running, it's shounen in a mask.People who find the show to be juvenile just for its violence and brutality (which I would completely disagree with) will find the next arc to be more their taste and truly "earn" its seinen label if S1 didnt already. My point still stands. You are assigning a lot of things in demographics with these ''this is proper seinen'' or ''*character doing something* is shounen'' as if they were genres. Which they are not. |
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