Comander-07 said: deg said: serious question, is english not your first or second language? I have noticed this before, but you barely answer the question, feel the need to answer them though and later you do a 180° turn. i know i read it and said things like japan TV is different and there are more audience for Tennis but what more do you expect me to say? since the official annoucement made it clear that they are delaying OPM to air this Tennis tournament same with other anime like this https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-05-30/fruits-basket-anime-2-episodes-delayed-due-to-french-open-broadcast/.147303 english is my second language, and i already asnwered you lets recap Q:Are people who watch tennis the same who watch OPM? A: nope but there are more TV viewers of this Tennis match since a Japanese player is playing Q: but is the target audience the same? A: nope the target audience are not the same those first 2 exchange we had i already given answers |
| @Comander-07 It depends on the certain TV channels to decide what to air. TV Tokyo that airs both OPM and new Fruba (I notice there's the ANN news of that anime posted) this season, for example, has a mix of shows (variety, anime, drama, etc.) airing on the show. These anime are just a part of the regular shows (which has different audiences from other shows). The TV show decides to live broadcast Tennis, which usually takes up long time of the regular shows, and there's nothing to do with the anime production and affects the broadcast of the regular show (either delayed or cancelled altogether). I know deg has summarized your question in the post before me, but I felt like I should explain about delay is also depends on the TV channels. |
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| @tsubasalover thanks for the elaboration on that one |
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| Wow we are already at the episode 8? I sometimes forget that this show exist, hope they make episode 9 better in art style and animation quality but at this point a whole episode dedicated to Saitama would be enough. |
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| Fucking tennis man. I was looking forward to this week's episode too. |
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tsubasalover said: Like you said, kinda ironic that sport is the natural enemy of anime. I just wondered why a channel which airs anime suddenly decides to air sport. I would have thought these things air on different channels, because different target groups. I dont see the generic anime fan being a big fan of tennis. Now I know anime is way bigger and normal in japan, so the groups probably overlap, but still its weird to me.@Comander-07 It depends on the certain TV channels to decide what to air. TV Tokyo that airs both OPM and new Fruba (I notice there's the ANN news of that anime posted) this season, for example, has a mix of shows (variety, anime, drama, etc.) airing on the show. These anime are just a part of the regular shows (which has different audiences from other shows). The TV show decides to live broadcast Tennis, which usually takes up long time of the regular shows, and there's nothing to do with the anime production and affects the broadcast of the regular show (either delayed or cancelled altogether). I know deg has summarized your question in the post before me, but I felt like I should explain about delay is also depends on the TV channels. Like you said production of anime is not tied to sports broadcasting, so there really isnt a point to let us all wait a week longer. |
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Comander-07 said: Now I know anime is way bigger and normal in japan nah manga is mainstream in japan but anime is not yet mainstream there unless the anime airs on morning prime time slots the vast majority of anime that we watch as none japanese fans are all late night anime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_night_anime#Overview which tend to have low viewership or low TV ratings |
deg said: I said bigger, not mainstream. Bigger as in not only weebs watch it like in the west. Thats why there is a bigger overlap between people who watch OPM and people who watch sport. Comander-07 said: Now I know anime is way bigger and normal in japan nah manga is mainstream in japan but anime is not yet mainstream there unless the anime airs on morning prime time slots the vast majority of anime that we watch as none japanese fans are all late night anime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_night_anime#Overview which tend to have low viewership or low TV ratings Because it would be a really weird decision if a channel here aired sport over anime, since the target groups are pretty much seperated. No, that a japanese player plays tennis in not relevant. |
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| @Comander-07 err ok i do not know why you do not rationalize the fact that OPM is officially delayed because of a sport while most of us here have done that but you have your own demands to the anime industry on how they should do things which is weird like youre in denial why OPM is delayed because of a sport |
degJun 5, 2019 5:27 AM
deg said: This is the point I made before. What are you even talking about? You dont seem to understand what people write here. You always half answer questions, but mostly with completely unrelated statements. Then you dont understand the reply and go completely offtopic. @Comander-07 err ok i do not know why you do not rationalize the fact that OPM is officially delayed because of a sport while most of us here have done that but you have your own demands to the anime industry on how they should do things which is weird like youre in denial why OPM is delayed because of a sport What is there not to "rationalize". OPM didnt air yesterday. Thats all there is to it. All I would like to know, but specifically not from you, is why the channel decided this way. Sometimes people on MAL have some actual inside. Something like the target groups actually are the same. Something like exclusive deals with the channel. Or whatever. I dont know and dont want to know what kind of channels you are used to, but usually they dont suddenly change their target audience so randomly. Its also not unheard of for anime to air on different channels at different times. |
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| @Comander-07 what i mean by rationalize is like filling in the blanks why they prioritize airing the Tennis tournament over anime thats why i mentioned that Japanese player competing against Nadal that is a legend in Tennis so a japanese beating him is a big deal to them obviously but ok just wait for actual technical stuff on some anime industry insider here on MAL then if those exist |
deg said: @Comander-07 what i mean by rationalize is like filling in the blanks why they prioritize airing the Tennis tournament over anime thats why i mentioned that Japanese player competing against Nadal that is a legend in Tennis so a japanese beating him is a big deal to them obviously but ok just wait for actual technical stuff on some anime industry insider here on MAL then if those exist Have I not already told you nobody cares for that? Thats not the point ffs!!! "they" dont exist, there is more than one single channel in japan.  |
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todd2580 said: but at rates the actual funny thing most of upcoming J.C Staff works are from Kadokawa so they have a hand in this reason for sure and it's greedy because Kadokawa doesn't care about quality it seems Your words about Kadokawa don't care about quality wasn't half wrong if you know about that Kemono Friends' disaster lol. |
todd2580 said: also https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePunchMan/comments/bhnrau/no_spoilers_hosoyaproducer_of_opm_s2_allegedly/ This one sounds new to me, I didn't know that this happened in the earlier episodes. So one of the producer that works on first 3 episodes is the same guy who replaced the original director to works on KF2 (Well I never watch KF before so I don't know about it), and that guy also made some crappy moves on Twitter too? (This kinda reminded me of Yutaka Yamamoto) What a coward and he does deserved to be fired from anime instrusy. Can't believes Kadokawa actually let that coward works on KF2 and thought it's a good idea. That alone just raises some possibility that Kadokawa don't care about their anime adaptation's quality at all. As for how he bashed MP100...... I can't comment on that since I'm not familiar with that series (And I'm not interested to follow it), but the fact he bashed MP100 without knowing it's actually ONE's work is quite funny lol. Although since OPM is belongs to Shueisha, I think we have stop our conversation about Kadokawa as it's kinda off-topic and it has noting to do with OPM2 being delayed lol. |
MahiaErebeaNegiJun 5, 2019 9:03 AM
todd2580 said: https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePunchMan/comments/bhnrau/no_spoilers_hosoyaproducer_of_opm_s2_allegedly/ this is new info to me and people know that producers have 2 roles either on the creative side or the business side or both (but that is not the norm in the anime industry) some elaboration on that here https://manga.tokyo/interview/interview-with-yaoyorozu-producer-fukuhara-the-vision-for-the-future-of-the-anime-business/ so ye that guy might be one of the responsible people for why OPM S2 is bad @Daniel_Naumov im a studio Trigger fan myself too but no, Trigger is a small studio and cannot buy every other studio thats just lol |
degJun 5, 2019 10:16 AM
| Man that's unfortunate but hopefully next week Ep is amazing! |
todd2580 said: deg said: this is new info to me and people know that producers have 2 roles either on the creative side or the business side or both (but that is not the norm in the anime industry) some elaboration on that here https://manga.tokyo/interview/interview-with-yaoyorozu-producer-fukuhara-the-vision-for-the-future-of-the-anime-business/ so ye that guy might be one of the responsible people for why OPM S2 is bad @Daniel_Naumov im a studio Trigger fan myself too but no, Trigger is a small studio and cannot buy every other studio thats just lol that's might be the reason OPM S2 in a bad state but i think things will improve things will improve? maybe the last episode will have a lot of sakuga just like most last episode of an anime but for the rest of the remaining episodes i doubt it since they really do not have enough talented staff and not enough production time too |
2ego said: I hope at least quality of the episode increases because of this, at least a little bit... Stop, your setting yourself up for disappointment. |
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| What I can say about episode 8= very emotional, I almost started crying= mastepriece! YES MASTERPIECE! |
| I hope they just get someone to do an episode in the original webcomic style by ONE to really piss off the people shitting on the animation. |
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Riotstarter said: It would probably look better than what we have now. At least there would be some charm to it. Just ask both seasons Mob Psycho 100, two of the most well-animated shows of the decade.I hope they just get someone to do an episode in the original webcomic style by ONE to really piss off the people shitting on the animation. |
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todd2580 said: There’s no charm to the visual style here whatsoever. The animators aren’t entirely to blame since everyone had to deal with awful scheduling to the point of havibg up to 5 or even 15 animaion directors in an episode. Cases like this and Berserk are proof that sometimes abysmal visuals don’t come from people not giving a shit and instead come from horrible production schedules and conflicts. There’s literally only one good shot...at the beginning of episode 3. There are less than 10 well-animated cuts across 8 episodes, all of them being from episodes 3 and 8, only lasting a second or two. The action scenes aside from one or two, are barely animated at the best of times and full of freakish art and CGI mishaps at the worst of times (episode 7 is a nightmare). Most non-action seasonal anime from the past year (like Senko-san, Happy Sugar Life, Bunny Girl Senpai, and Wotakoi, even though most of these shows have bad visuals themselves) look better than this, and they don’t even have sakuga moments. Still, the drawing quality is incredibly inconsistent, the fights are sometimes less (or at least worse) animated than the rest of the episodes, and the aesthetic with the awkwardly dark colors and textures is just butt ugly to me. It’s not Berserk 2016/17 or Hand Shakers bad, but when that’s the only professional standard you cam favorably compare this to on a visual level, something has gone terribly wrong here.CodeBlazeFate said: It would probably look better than what we have now. At least there would be some charm to it. Just ask both seasons Mob Psycho 100, two of the most well-animated shows of the decade. there's still some charm on this season you act like the animators nor the crew doesn't care it's still the production schedule is tight and we have some errors in some shots it's not that much and there's nice shots too... even they're to do something different from manga like focusing on things the manga didn't but can't deny that season doesn't that have much action is bummer but it still decent so far |
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| The episode was so bad that the tv station refused to air it. |
| Tennis strikes again! :U That's fine. Tennis is great. Good luck! Enjoy the French Open everyone! |
| Mates, I am curious about one thing and maybe somebody might answer my question. Why French Open affected an anime? Is tennis popular a lot in Japan? Or did just J.C. Staff failed to make this episode in time? My question is not to sound picky or something. I'm just curious why French Open (famous tennis tournament) affected One Punch Man's airing (and this one is an anime). |
todd2580 said: I mean, there aren’t any genuinely good shots in OPM 2 outside of 1 moment in episode 3. Everything else looks standard at best since there’s no life to the direction and shot composition, therefore shots themselves don’t stick out. Them making clearly unfinished sequences and awful drawings is definitely a time and resources issue on top of a skill issue and a management issue, but at the end of the day, we’re still left with a horrendous-looking anime. I sympathize with how they were mismanaged and put into this awful situation, but at the same time, I’m still gonna judge the released product for what it is, and them having to fix things for the Blu-rays means nothing (in fact, it’s awful that they’ll be forced to do so since that means more excruciating overtime and therefore, more incompetence). That also cannot fix the shots as that’s entirely on the director not coming up with or properly recreating stand-out shots. Your wording also left me very confused with what you were saying a lot of the time, so if something doesn’t quite feel like it’s answering what you said, feel free to correct or rephrase.CodeBlazeFate said: There’s no charm to the visual style here whatsoever. The animators aren’t entirely to blame since everyone had to deal with awful scheduling to the point of havibg up to 5 or even 15 animaion directors in an episode. Cases like this and Berserk are proof that sometimes abysmal visuals don’t come from people not giving a shit and instead come from horrible production schedules and conflicts. There’s literally only one good shot...at the beginning of episode 3. There are less than 10 well-animated cuts across 8 episodes, all of them being from episodes 3 and 8, only lasting a second or two. The action scenes aside from one or two, are barely animated at the best of times and full of freakish art and CGI mishaps at the worst of times (episode 7 is a nightmare). Most non-action seasonal anime from the past year (like Senko-san, Happy Sugar Life, Bunny Girl Senpai, and Wotakoi, even though most of these shows have bad visuals themselves) look better than this, and they don’t even have sakuga moments. Still, the drawing quality is incredibly inconsistent, the fights are sometimes less (or at least worse) animated than the rest of the episodes, and the aesthetic with the awkwardly dark colors and textures is just butt ugly to me. It’s not Berserk 2016/17 or Hand Shakers bad, but when that’s the only professional standard you cam favorably compare this to on a visual level, something has gone terribly wrong here. keep in mind too that the animators of food wars can do draw with details well but lack of time affecting that so sometimes you see nice shots and sometimes you see non-finished shots but i can see they can do something better if they were given much time ofc but although some of things might be not fixed in the blu-ray like the animation of scenes but at least they can fix some things in the blu-ray and the shots might be fixed too with a deleted scenes since i feel like that they might provide those according to Aoki one of the animators of this season |
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