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Jul 7, 2009 2:35 AM

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AddleBoy said:
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Basically, "y'all complaining about this cat gold because you have REAL gold, well screw you, I don't want real gold so I can enjoy my cat gold better"?

I see it as "I'm going to be able to appreciate both the anime and the VN (after the anime ends), while you'll be spending this whole season bitching about how it compares to the VN."

That's probably the reason why I liked the Fate/Stay Night anime, but hated the Tsukihime anime.


Original source is always better. It's usually bullshit when something is cut form an anime that was in a manga/visual novel.
Jul 7, 2009 3:10 AM

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noteDhero said:
I don't think the animation is going to matter so much in a show like this, so it's totally passable.

You just wait.

AddleBoy said:
I see it as "I'm going to be able to appreciate both the anime and the VN (after the anime ends), while you'll be spending this whole season bitching about how it compares to the VN."

That's probably the reason why I liked the Fate/Stay Night anime, but hated the Tsukihime anime.

Really, it doesn't work that way. If you have watched the anime in beforehand, playing the game won't be nearly half as fun. I've done that a couple of time with other VNs, I know.

Also, if you reread this thread a couple of times you will notice that many VN-players, including myself, thought this was decent work. And while some of the whiners MAYBE would enjoy the anime more without playing the game, take in consideration that their LOVE for the games are huge. Probably 5-10 times more than their love for the anime in a reverse situation.

PS: The FSN anime followed mainly one route from one game in 26 episodes and had delicious fanservices. We've watched a single episode rushing through nearly half a game. Some people WILL whine. Tsukihime anime has been hated of VN-fans and newcomers alike, not that there is any Tsukihime anime in the first place.
Jul 7, 2009 3:53 AM
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Kitcha said:
...not that there is any Tsukihime anime in the first place.

I was gonna say. For a second there you had me going, but then I realized you were talking about Porkslope Turkeyhandle.
Jul 7, 2009 12:07 PM

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I think the biggest problem here is that the beginning of the VN does not lend itself well to starting an anime. With the VN, that lenghty character intro isn't as bad (although I still think it was a bit excessive and could have been cut down some) because you can just keep clicking through it and you'll eventually get to the good stuff. With an anime, however, you have episodes, and you have to wait for the next one each week - you only have access to that segment of the content. People aren't going to sit through several episodes of what appears to be a boring series about a bunch of people who are going to be going on a boat trip to some island. There has to be something there to make you want to watch the next episode, something that is hard to do with a long intro like Umineko's. The unfortunate truth about anime is that people judge whether or not to watch them based on the first episode or two. You don't have this problem with a VN because it's all one episode, so there's continuity and people will be more forgiving.

That said, I liked (for the most part) the way they executed the episode, and being familiar with the scenario actually made me like it more because I already knew about the less-developed characters so I could sit back and watch it without worrying about who was who.

Incidentally, I'm currently watching FS/N (never read the VN), and episode 12 is the first instance I've seen of something that actually made me want to continue watching the show. I forced myself through the boring (although probably fanservice-laced) first half because people said it gets better. It has now, but at the HALFWAY POINT. That's simply not acceptable. It feels to me like it was made FOR those who already know the VN. This, to me, is an excellent example of bad pacing. Sometimes, speedy is the way to go.

I would comment on Porkslope Turkeyhandle, but that's not based on a VN so it isn't as relevant.

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Jul 7, 2009 4:01 PM
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love the opening and ending
<3 ...

nice episode

wanna see more :P
Jul 7, 2009 9:37 PM
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caught interest in this right away. I actually found the first couple episodes of Higurashi to be boring. This caught my iny attention right away. I am expecting good things in the future.. poor maria-chan...
Jul 8, 2009 7:19 AM

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Oh god.. My ears..



Beatrice



I get a bad feeling about this..



Unlike the visual novel which most likely isn't voiced, the anime features a nice cast of seiyuu. Looking forward to how the anime will turn out...
Jul 8, 2009 8:55 AM

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Oh that cry. That hysterical sound is breaking my mind and cutting my brain into two. My ears are aching and my head feels like it's gonna blow up. This beautiful cry of a nine-year-old!
Jul 8, 2009 3:49 PM

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Ayu making Makoto sounds... what has the world come to? Auu~
Jul 9, 2009 12:20 PM

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Maria sound was driving me up a wall, go mom. Wayyyyyy too many characters to remember in a 1st epidode.
Jul 9, 2009 12:44 PM

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confused_kitsune said:
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Just wondering, the animes art is good, but why are some of the character pictures so funky looking on the myanimelist character panel?



You mean like this?
Those are some screenshots from the original sound novel. Ryukishi07 isn't that good at drawing characters, but his style has certainly improved since the Higurashi game. Also, considering that this is a sound novel, the visuals should only come as an extra, so there's really no point in being picky. Personally, I think some of the game designs are better than the anime ones. *coughGeorgecough*


thanks!

by the way- i'm guessing this series plays out in arcs like higurashi no naku koro ni?
...anyway, it looks very promising : )
Jul 9, 2009 8:48 PM

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I think is so inappropriate to discuss how to share the father fortune when he's still alive! I am going to enjoy when they are getting kill one after a nother!
Jul 11, 2009 2:41 AM

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quite a good voice for maria seems beatrice still on-hold
to show herself
Jul 11, 2009 4:45 AM

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Uuh.
Jul 11, 2009 10:12 AM

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Uuh, uuh, uuh, STFU

This anime won't be able to match up to higurashi, though. How scary could this possibly be?
Jul 11, 2009 6:44 PM

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The whole thing with a wealthy family reuniting and talking about how to split inheritance and bloodshed and how s its going to be a mystery reminds me of an Detective Conan episode. These type of stories are most interesting xD
Jul 11, 2009 6:58 PM
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I have never played the game before, but this is all i can read on the blurry epitaph



If anyone can correct me, or help me with the first and second passage, that would be great =D
Jul 11, 2009 7:08 PM
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throwthedisc said:
Maria sound was driving me up a wall, go mom. Wayyyyyy too many characters to remember in a 1st epidode.


Qft..Maria got what she deserved.
Jul 11, 2009 7:53 PM

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ScooterT said:
throwthedisc said:
Maria sound was driving me up a wall, go mom. Wayyyyyy too many characters to remember in a 1st epidode.


Qft..Maria got what she deserved.


So you're another person who supports child abuse?
Jul 12, 2009 6:21 AM
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Frost604 said:
I have never played the game before, but this is all i can read on the blurry epitaph



If anyone can correct me, or help me with the first and second passage, that would be great =D

Shamelessly stolen from the translated VN, but here it is:
Jul 12, 2009 7:23 AM

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Lmfao. Maria is so bloody annoying.
Good first episode but seriously she deserved that slap.
Jul 12, 2009 1:30 PM

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first time ever i muted an anime, ushiromiyo maria is officially the worst anime character ever
Jul 12, 2009 1:40 PM

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dj-flash said:
first time ever i muted an anime, ushiromiyo maria is officially the worst anime character ever
LOL! I completely agree~

Actually she's quite cute....until you hear her voice. So I'm blaming it on the seiyuu. Man...I cringed when she started screaming the "Uuu"s
Jul 12, 2009 2:07 PM

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Overall I liked this first episode, but there are a lot of characters in this show, I wonder if I'm ever going to remember them.

And like everyone I think Maria's voice is too annoying (and Maria's voice is too similar to how the seiyuu voiced Hanyuu from Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai).

Edit: I found this picture, with an explanation about the relations between all the characters in the story, it's really handy:

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Jul 13, 2009 10:22 PM

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There's no way in hell this series is only 13 episodes. And if it's even half as good as Higurashi, I'll be happy.
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job."

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Jul 13, 2009 10:54 PM

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Yeah, there is no physically possible way they could fit the first four games in 13 episodes. Hell, 26 episodes is pushing it. They could easily use 50-some episodes on the first four games.
Jul 14, 2009 12:24 AM

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I'm totally in it. Liked it very much~
just maria was annoying~but yeah, if rosa didn't have slapped her, i would XD"

hmm but night 9~is no one is alive, how can you receive the gold/find the "golden land" if all are dead? oO'
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Jul 14, 2009 12:40 PM

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Oh I couldn't get enough of the loli
Jul 21, 2009 4:49 AM

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How did I know this discussion would contain just what I was worried about.
People justifying beating children.

Sickening. Absolutely sickening. I hope y'all never have children.

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Jul 21, 2009 9:30 PM

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Was okay-ish. I plan on watching more episodes even if it's only to see the hot servant guy.
Jul 22, 2009 1:30 AM

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net_nomad said:
hot servant guy.

Oh God so I'm not the only one.

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Jul 23, 2009 1:58 AM
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LolitaDecay said:
Lmfao. Maria is so bloody annoying.
Good first episode but seriously she deserved that slap.

SEACATS did an amazing job :)
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Jul 23, 2009 7:41 PM

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SilentXenocide said:
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It was a bit rushed, but nothing of actual value was lost from the VN to the Anime.

Have you... read... the... visual novel? I like your sense of optimism but really. There was oh so so so so much lost. Seriously though, even though the first episode of the visual novel dragged on, it had reason for doing so. In this single episode of the anime they skipped explanations, introductions, and character development. And not just a little of it at that, a lot of it.

I have read all 4 episodes. Nothing important was really cut out, unless you think things like Battler helping Kanon pick up a bag of fertiliser or the family arguing over finances for 30 minutes is that important. Explanations and more in depth character development can still be done throughout the series.


Nope, some stuff was really lost. No matter the way its seen its lost. Good stuff
Jul 28, 2009 12:49 PM

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That was pretty good. I never saw any of the previous Naku Koro ni series, though, so I might miss a bit. The OP and ED are great, the art's a little above average (far above average in some scenes), *drool*Kanon ish pehfekuto fawa peopre weef mai fetishu*drool*, and the plot is interesting. By the looks of things, the firsat few scenes were just an introduction, as it quickly got much darker. I hope it'll continue to get darker, more serious etc. One complaint; Maria, at first, looked like a great character. When I discovered that she was 9, all I could think about was her immaturity. I had thought that she was an intelligent 4-year-old.
Jul 28, 2009 1:38 PM

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Meh, she's practically schizophrenic give the little girl a break.
Aug 7, 2009 9:00 AM

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Kinda bad episode. Really. This episode is like 3/4 of the first episode of the novel. Really.
Aug 8, 2009 8:06 PM

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MM ill give this a chance, indeed there were lots of characters introduced, I hope that they either hash them out more.. or start killing them off to thin the crowd

Aug 20, 2009 12:26 AM

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Looks pretty good so far.

Maria kinda pisses me off though for some reason.
Aug 23, 2009 7:50 PM

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Battler is lame for sexually harassing all the young ladies on the show.
Lady Kumasawa is awesome for taking him up on the offer.

"You want to feel my breasts too?", perverted old ladies = awesome.
I kept meaning to say that ever since I saw this episode, but got sidetracked.D:

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Aug 24, 2009 1:01 AM

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Lepchin17 said:
Looks pretty good so far.

Maria kinda pisses me off though for some reason.


And now she's 4th In your favorites lol




Aug 26, 2009 4:57 PM

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Battler is such a perv XD

I've read the Maria annoying posts/comments, I thought some people LIKED Maria. ._.
But i guess not :P

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Aug 27, 2009 11:09 PM
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Was this close to not finishing the damn episode because of Maria. What an annoying little....
Aug 28, 2009 7:58 AM

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I was looking for a few new anime and started this. I loved the mystery thriller vibes i got and i hope that the witch won't appear and just be some not so scary woman that likes to joke around and staff, like we see many times in anime.

Other than that it kind of reminded me some Agatha Christie novels with the island, the big house and all those rich members of the family plotting. My only problem was that i got a character overload. With so many introduced in one episode i was kind of lost.
In general i was surprised pleasantly and i hope it won't disappoint me in the future.
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Was an okay episode. Meh, kinda disappointing. Expected more after all the hype tbh.
But, really, what unlikable characters! Hopefully that'll change. Am I the only one who thought Maria was kinda cute? I mean, she was the only somewhat likable character for me so far. Her mom was a bitch, really. She pissed me off. The main guy (forgot his name ><) was an annoying pervert. Everyone else was either nonexistent or yet again, unlikable.
So yeah, I'll be hoping for change as far as that goes.
Beginning was boring introductions for like 5 minutes and could've been done better IMO. There were also a few boring moments throughout. Not enough to say it put me to sleep though, thank god. Other than the unlikable characters and couple boring moments, it was pretty enjoyable. Can't wait to start more on the horror/psychological-mystery stuff, we only got a very faint vibe from it in the first episode so I'm sure it'll start to get really good and start to live up to hype when it delves deeper into it...or is that just me having false hopes again? hmm...guess the only way to know is to go on to episode 2~ Hopefully the rest of the series will not disappoint me :D
The OP and ED look really cool though.
Sep 5, 2009 9:21 AM
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Was an okay episode. Meh, kinda disappointing. Expected more after all the hype tbh.
But, really, what unlikable characters! Hopefully that'll change. Am I the only one who thought Maria was kinda cute? I mean, she was the only somewhat likable character for me so far. Her mom was a bitch, really. She pissed me off. The main guy (forgot his name ><) was an annoying pervert. Everyone else was either nonexistent or yet again, unlikable.
So yeah, I'll be hoping for change as far as that goes.
Beginning was boring introductions for like 5 minutes and could've been done better IMO. There were also a few boring moments throughout. Not enough to say it put me to sleep though, thank god.

That's exactly what made me read the VN.
After the first 3 boring and disappointing anime episodes, I started reading the VN.
And it was WAY better than I expected.

Battler was made much more perverted than in the VN.
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Well, that was pretty interesting. Definitely felt like an Agatha Christie novel, with introducing a bunch of characters all at once, haha. I'm already loving the atmosphere and setting~

btw Maria needed to be slapped. That sound was the most annoying thing I've ever heard!!!!
Oct 3, 2009 6:32 AM

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delicious ep.
Oct 28, 2009 1:25 PM

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didn't like it so far. We only get introduced to too many ppl who have money issues and are all arrogant pricks, the main character is an annoying pervert and the kid is fucking annoying.

Guess its going to be better seeing the grade.
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Well, that was pretty interesting. Definitely felt like an Agatha Christie novel, with introducing a bunch of characters all at once, haha. I'm already loving the atmosphere and setting~

btw Maria needed to be slapped. That sound was the most annoying thing I've ever heard!!!!


she was, twice :P

btw whats the connection between this and higurashi anyway?
Oct 28, 2009 2:52 PM

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There are similar themes, the biggest one you can probably imagine if you know the central concept of Higurashi already.

There are also some crossover characters. Sort of.

It's possible, too, that by the time the games are completely finished, it may solve some mysteries at the heart of Higurashi that we still don't understand. Umineko is a story with a lot of layers of meaning.
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