Goblin Slayer (light novel)
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Nov 25, 2018 6:17 PM
#201
ChiefToadSage said: I've got a question (it might be a stupid question but it was not 100 percent clear to me). Did the priestess have sex with the Goblin Slayer to revive him? From what I've read, He just needed to lay beside a virgin for the miracle to work. The priestess was the virgin, but because she didn't know the miracle and its a high level healing spell, the sword maiden did the spell and just used priestess as a catalyst. |
Nov 25, 2018 6:24 PM
#202
Shaskavalier said: LaughingCoffinx said: ChiefToadSage said: I've got a question (it might be a stupid question but it was not 100 percent clear to me). Did the priestess have sex with the Goblin Slayer to revive him? From what I've read, He just needed to lay beside a virgin for the miracle to work. The priestess was the virgin, but because she didn't know the miracle and its a high level healing spell, the sword maiden did the spell and just used priestess as a catalyst. Yup, pretty sure ya nailed it. Another small detail would be that being the reason for her even bringing up her past. Due to Goblin Slayer being sure Priestess would have no chance of making that spell happen, questioning it. But then why was the Priestess naked? (Not that i'm complaining btw) |
Nov 25, 2018 6:27 PM
#203
Nov 25, 2018 6:51 PM
#204
Why did people say they only kill goblins in this anime? It does not seem that way. |
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Nov 25, 2018 8:49 PM
#205
This person papsoshea has proven to be the troll who gets into it with almost every person who happened to make the mistake of giving him some attention. Other posters testified that he goes around forums boards and plays the role of the contrarian A-hole. He constantly contradicts himself every time he states he hates the anime and dislikes the source material by continuing to watch it. It's like someone who rates a restaurant really low for reasons like: foods awful, terrible service, unclean facilities, smells bad, overpriced items etc. With all those mentioned would still go back and patronize the place so he can complain all over again. Like wtf, who does this stupid and pathetic pattern and act so snooty towards those who are telling him to drop it and move on. He must really like the attention when in reality, he's actually a dumb troll who thinks he's doing us a favor by being such a know it all elitist. I'm also in favor of the Ignore tag where you can add someone to a list so you'll never have to deal with someone's crap like this guy been doing. Please make it happen MAL devs. I'm done talking about this guy. Let's talk more about GS |
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Nov 25, 2018 9:06 PM
#206
The episode started with a small scene of a child goblin slayer actually being thought about the goblins. In the present he woke up in a bed next to Onna (seems like they slept together), Sword Maiden entered to the room to talked with GS. Onna wakes up later an the other three enter to the room. Later he and Onna took equipment to repairment and spent time together. The wizard from the guild appear to give GS a sack of flour. Finally they're exploring the ruins again and they encounter a kind of eye monster. GS uses the flour and explosive properties to end it. Weren't they trapped at the end of the last episode? GS and Onna totally knocked out, low energy and no resources? The episode explored in a superficial way GS's past, his training for what he's now, but I need to know more. It seems like his village or something was attacked and his sister too. That felt more like a date, what it meant that he and Onna had sex, he said something about resurrection, an spell? The actions begins again in the ruins with the eye monster. |
Atlas77Nov 25, 2018 9:11 PM
Nov 25, 2018 9:17 PM
#207
Goblins are evil, it's a story of revenge and hate on Goblins. I can relate to Goblin Slayer more and more why he was like this. His manner of speaking was finally questioned this episode (which is actually pretty badass) as well as helmet off. It really does fit him how he is. For the longest time, Goblin Slayer was a human that is a human (OP though physically vulnerable) but couldn't be human. What's really neat Goblin Slayer is changing, as noted by the Priestess. Grown to not need anyone and fighting alone yet able to give ground to friends "the shape of his life" who all rise up with respect to support him in his fight. Although to him, nothing has changed, I think when he returns home (his childhood friend waiting) he will be different. GREAT EPISODE !!!!!!! |
張大です for 張大勇督察 |
Nov 25, 2018 9:40 PM
#208
The morning scene is totally unnecessary Downvoted to 6/10 |
Nov 25, 2018 9:42 PM
#209
Janethan23 said: This person papsoshea has proven to be the troll who gets into it with almost every person who happened to make the mistake of giving him some attention. Other posters testified that he goes around forums boards and plays the role of the contrarian A-hole. He constantly contradicts himself every time he states he hates the anime and dislikes the source material by continuing to watch it. It's like someone who rates a restaurant really low for reasons like: foods awful, terrible service, unclean facilities, smells bad, overpriced items etc. With all those mentioned would still go back and patronize the place so he can complain all over again. Like wtf, who does this stupid and pathetic pattern and act so snooty towards those who are telling him to drop it and move on. He must really like the attention when in reality, he's actually a dumb troll who thinks he's doing us a favor by being such a know it all elitist. I'm also in favor of the Ignore tag where you can add someone to a list so you'll never have to deal with someone's crap like this guy been doing. Please make it happen MAL devs. I'm done talking about this guy. Let's talk more about GS How about we just report him to the admins? Maybe that will finally teach him to keep his mouth shut. |
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Nov 25, 2018 10:26 PM
#210
Antanaru said: What "surprise after the farm?". This episode doesn't exist in anime, there is nothing to explain. If they decide to add farm defense as final ark (I think it is most likely will happen), this part can be easily rewritten. Also, if it was necessary coming up with explanations would be easy. When Priestess woke up she only seen GS's back. She could be unconscious when she went to sleep. His face could be badly bruised before.FreezePeach said: Plot holes because of skipped farm defense is total BS, there are none. It doesn't have much impact on the story, they could easily plug it in later. Try explaining Priestess's surprise seeing GS's face after the farm now that she shared a bed with him. Or GS asking Lancer to bring the stuff before what happened in the guild before the battle at the farm. You didn't pay attention. Witch says "Stop that now. I'm the one who was summoned." Lancer tags along. GS asked her for favors before (remember the scroll?) and she never was mean/dismissive toward him. Nothing to explain.Or GS actually opening to other people without that battle. Well, this is just ridiculous. He is in party with "other people" for multiple months for the first time in his life, they fight and travel together. It would be strange if it didn't affect him.Writing in the anime is pure garbage, there's no defending it saying they are just taking liberties transitioning to other medium. You were complaining that "skipping the farm defence arc created gaping plotholes in this part of the anime" but failed to give even one. 1st "plot hole" doesn't exist because episode you reference doesn't exist in anime, 2nd - you didn't pay attention, 3rd - just nonsense, there is nothing to explain. Try harder. |
FreezePeachNov 25, 2018 10:29 PM
Nov 25, 2018 11:22 PM
#211
i would like to give my take on your discussion, for the reason that we also share the same agreement on some things. but i am too have my own takes papsoshea said: more tonal dissonance from how episode 7 ended to the beginning of this episode where we have the "pleasure" of seeing some fanservice of some little tits from priestess and big tits from Sword Maiden, and all those gratuitous camera shots on her boobs for what reason? the reason is fanservice, that it really is, a fanservice. this series really has a fanservice on it, no need for anyone to deny it. even Berserk had an accidental groping scene, bath scene, accidental falling scene, naked for no reason scene (im looking at you Casca and Farnese,) a sex scene, and also pretty a lot of rape scene, if anyone are into it you know, im not kink-shaming. i still trying to wrapped my head on what is tonal dissonance and excuse my stupid ass im going to visit tvtropes. but i may be agree to some extent. for me, as long as those dissonance are not happening during the fight, and severely ruin the fight mood. it’s fine. tonal dissonance that would probably pissing me off would be if GS start narrating inside his head when he sees a naked girl, and narrating more when he sees the Maiden nips, and narrating louder when he knows he sleeps with them both. plus added extra blush in his face. that would be very stupid and really out of places. or in Berserk, when Isidro, Farnese and Casca being saved by Schierke after they are surrounded by trolls, Isidro deadass accidentally groping Schierke boobs, and getting hit by her for that and Isirdo magically turned into brainless monkey for the half of the episode. these are absolutely not needed, especially when everyone almost in the brink of dead. hell, Isidro existence is already out of places because how goofy he is, even when in a serious fights. also double the goofiness sometimes when combined with Puck. so much for a very dark series isn’t it. anyway, in the fanservice scene, i can see that the mood is still pretty heavy, the soundtrack is calming, the background is some bedroom in church after healing so it’s pretty perfect places because of how they’re rest after being healed. the naked sleeping bodies for me are not out of place, because it’s already established afterward that it’s a requirement of the magic. their conversation also not really out of places, they talked about how only Maiden and GS know how it feels like to be a goblin victim. my only problem is the unnecessary shot of her beautiful body while she talks about her past, that’s for me are really out of place, and pretty degrading for a woman with a trauma called it fanservice, i would too call it that, because that’s how they delivered it, maybe to show her elegance, flirty and seducting act, or to show those fair body that was once ravaged by goblin, or just plain fanservice. i dunno, interpret that scene however you want, there’s a value in there somewere, but other than those glorious body shot, i don’t have a problem with it. papsoshea said: And why did this spell have to revolve around a perverted theme that it can only work by sleeping with a virgin?. first, how are they healed? Well reason: Deus Ex Machina! as to why, i dont know, it’s already established that way in the LN, but all i know it’s literally just sleeping, no more than that. at this point, it just a matter of preferences or taste, and fanservice as to how, u/Proto-Omega in GS episode 8 discussion on r/anime have a brief explanation: - The resurrection spell requires for the receiver to lay in bed with a pure maiden. - Sword Maiden is unfortunately not considered pure, as she was raped by goblins. - Priestess, who is considered pure, must lay beside Goblin Slayer for the spell to work. - It needs to be a holy maiden as the resurrection spell is getting a blessing from their god. (This is why the spell would not have worked if they used High Elf Archer, or just any virgin girl). - (on that note though,I do not know of Sword Maiden being a holy maiden would be enough for the spell to work, despite the virgin maiden not being holy). - Sword Maiden is the only one who can actually cast the resurrection spell, so she must also lay beside Goblin Slayer So think of Priestess as the catalyst for the spell, while Sword Maiden actually performs the spell. If Sword Maiden was pure herself, Priestess would have no need to lay in bed beside Goblin Slayer. i wouldnt go so far as to say that a healing magic is a Deux ex Machina to the sense that it’s not sudden or unexpected for people to have an ability to heal someone in that universe. more like the Maiden resurrection skill is seemingly op. but, as op as it is, resurrection still can’t do things that considered unsolvable or hopeless like reviving dead people (yes, resurrection is just a name, it’s just a major healing magic.) it doesnt magically solve all your problem, it simply needs a requirement and takes time. and also, she herself can’t use it conveniently. it’s more likely just a very convenient coincidence that Priestess, a holy maiden is there to help so that Maiden can successfully cast her magic. if i want to pull a Deus ex Machina, i would just straight up write that when GS is down the Elf is crying and suddenly her tears turn into a magical potion that cure him and he’s magically goes 100% full goblin massacre mode. or his armor are magically glowing that it stated “when in brink of death, may the wielder of this armor receive a god blessing” and bam, he’s healthy again. i can go on and on with this. it’s free if people want to treat it as Deus Machina, people can think of it as one. then again, this is the interpretation of my biased view because simply I enjoy this. papsoshea said: And the Sword Maiden likes Gobin Slayer for what reasons? That whole scene just inconsistency with the tone again when trying to delve into past trauma which makes the whole thing pointless! all I can see for the reason is that, both hates goblin, and both are goblin victim, when you’re sharing the same fate, you tend to click with each other. and GS existence in her life—even though just for a mission like this, is what makes her safe and feeling protected. all I see from these fanservice scene is that she just want his help but she just don’t wanna come to him crying and begging, so she use flirting instead, I dunno, that fanservice is really out of place, i agree with you. but i would be lying if i say i’m not enjoying these. papsoshea said: Then more Slice of Life and generic comedic vibes when this show is "supposedly" a dark and mature fantasy (which many claimed in the episode 1 discussion) come on mate, the more you repeat this sentence, the more i wonder did you really read/watch Berserk or not. because as an undisputed dark fantasy, Berserk also has a lot of comedic vibes. even in every fighting occasion, you’ll see at least Isidro, Puck or Ivalera doing some goofy stuff while Guts slashing and killing everything. and dont tell me when a serious conversation sometimes interrupted by Isidro and Puck just by being themselves, doing another dumb stuff. you’ll probably wonder with so many weird monster in berserk, Isidro dumb luck still keep him survive. dont get me wrong, Berserk is miles ahead in terms of characters, artstyle, and story, the legacy speak for itself. but to said that this dark fantasy can’t have a comedic vibes and slice of life but you also rating Berserk a 10 for also having those, that’s just ain’t it but then again, who am i to judge, people have a different taste to begin with and i can see that your certainly dont find this appealing, that’s fine. you invest your time with this series and you calling out those little things that you dont like. i respect that hustle. i’m glad we can agree on some things. |
InukanuraNov 25, 2018 11:32 PM
Nov 25, 2018 11:29 PM
#212
why the girl elf calling goblin slayer orc bolg? i dont understand |
Nov 25, 2018 11:34 PM
#213
Atlas77 said: The episode started with a small scene of a child goblin slayer actually being thought about the goblins. In the present he woke up in a bed next to Onna (seems like they slept together), Sword Maiden entered to the room to talked with GS. Onna wakes up later an the other three enter to the room. Later he and Onna took equipment to repairment and spent time together. The wizard from the guild appear to give GS a sack of flour. Finally they're exploring the ruins again and they encounter a kind of eye monster. GS uses the flour and explosive properties to end it. Weren't they trapped at the end of the last episode? GS and Onna totally knocked out, low energy and no resources? The episode explored in a superficial way GS's past, his training for what he's now, but I need to know more. It seems like his village or something was attacked and his sister too. That felt more like a date, what it meant that he and Onna had sex, he said something about resurrection, an spell? The actions begins again in the ruins with the eye monster. They were briefly trapped by the goblins in that tomb, but they were able to block the poison gas from being blown in, and then the goblins broke through the door. Goblin Slayer then wounded the champion and they all retreated, so they were free to leave. Lizard Man is strong and was probably able to produce a Dragon Tooth warrior to help carry everyone to safety in the temple. |
Nov 25, 2018 11:56 PM
#214
eWEQRW123123 said: Why did people say they only kill goblins in this anime? It does not seem that way. They only kill goblins as in they only take goblin slaying quests. If something else is the way, they kill it too. |
Nov 26, 2018 12:14 AM
#215
omoi11 said: In her Elvish language it translates to that.why the girl elf calling goblin slayer orc bolg? i dont understand |
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Nov 26, 2018 12:19 AM
#216
papsoshea said: Can you not see how this creates a contradiction in the world building of this story? I mean you said it yourself, goblins should not be underestimated yet the entire world underestimates them, the world believes they aren't that much of a threat when over the time of years they have been wiping out hamlets, destroying the eco-system (that affects the economics of this world), murder many and rape many women. Not only that, if they live long enough, they can evolve is higher and stronger forms. Did you even watch the anime? Sorry for just addressing this and not anything else in your post (not that you have a shortage of people to reply to), but I'd just like to share my opinion about this and my overall take on Goblin Slayer. The premise of the GS world is that it's a game played by the gods and it's reflected in the nature of the world; the clearly-defined classes (early on people speculate GS has taken levels in Ranger), the adventurer's guild and its ranking system, the fact that they're all literally nameless NPCs, the way characters can be so positive despite living in a world full of horrors, the way veteran adventurers will overlook lower ranking monsters like goblins as nuisances despite the fact they can evolve to lords, shamans, and champions, and how said monsters don't have an ecology that would work from a evolutionary standpoint. These are all elements that don't make sense in a story, but are standard in JRPGs and MMOs. The fact that GS uses so many tropes from games suggests to me it was never intended to be something like Berserk, it's more like an overly serious version of Bikini Warriors; in that light, I find a lot of what appears to be contradictions to work and the story more enjoyable that way. To be clear, I'm not saying your criticisms are wrong or have no merit, but it's like complaining that Pokemon is a story about children gleefully engaging in slavery and bloodsports; you're technically right, but it's just going to come across as picking a fight regardless of how you word it. |
Nov 26, 2018 2:08 AM
#217
the lizard shaman might be one of my favourite male characters of the year. |
Nov 26, 2018 2:17 AM
#218
ChyllyWylly said: A character talking about their rape trauma while the show focuses on their breasts to titillate the viewers as this is being discussed. Keeping it classy, I see. I'd love to see someone try to defend this, really. The fan service is getting annoying. |
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Nov 26, 2018 2:26 AM
#219
It was pretty good. I feel like the gore has been toned down significantly, but since I don't particularly like most of these "gory" shows, I don't really have a problem with that. The fight scene with the eye-thing was cool though, and seeing Goblin Slayer slowly become more apt at socializing and interacting with other humans is really entertaining. The flashback scene was really well done, though obscuring his eyes diminished the effect the scene was trying to go for. If it's trying to humanize Goblin Slayer by making him feel less overpowered, then showing his eyes would be a great way to communicate the fear that he must have gone through while training. Apart from that, it was a really good episode. And since I got to see more Priestess (that ice cream scene) can't really complain. I know a lot of people want more gore and fighting, but the slice of life moments and character interaction is basically the only thing that makes this show interesting for me, so I highly appreciate them taking more time to do that. |
Nov 26, 2018 2:44 AM
#220
Nov 26, 2018 3:25 AM
#221
@papsoshea so in your opinion what is the pro and con of the series just asking your opinion |
Nov 26, 2018 3:27 AM
#222
Well we finally see him. Glad to see he gives no fucks about the maiden. Goblins are all he cares about and so it should be! |
Nov 26, 2018 3:39 AM
#223
Nov 26, 2018 3:53 AM
#224
Hmm... a guy slept with 2 beautiful girls... Hmm That Sword maiden though... *wipes sweat* oh, finally Goblin Slayer kill another thing which is not a goblin... Mirror mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of the- whoops wrong anime |
Nov 26, 2018 7:21 AM
#226
The scene with priestess and goblin slayer, hanging out together in town and eating ice cream is cute and all but it makes me wonder if he'll have any one on one moments with the other girls in his harem circle someday in the future with like Cowgirl, Guild Girl and Elf-chan. I got spoiled about guild girl having a date with goblin slayer in the LN so I can't wait for that scene to appear in the manga soon and someday in anime form, if it gets a second season! P.S I will never get anime fans who complain about fan service in anime, especially those who let the fan service scenes ruin their fun of enjoying the anime itself. You should be aware since episode 2 that this anime won't be shy about showing the ecchi scenes of the girls if it wants to compared to the rape and violence in which they toned it down for the "sensitive" viewers. |
Nov 26, 2018 9:11 AM
#227
Meh, it was more tolerable than the other lax episodes. It is to be expected given the prior episode. Of course they went with the annoying date-like atmosphere with the priestess doing "cute" shit. I swear it doesn't matter they always find a way to push the "love interest", fine but it is so fucking awkward. This series isn't going anywhere fast, and like a lot of anime these end up just being extended commercials for the source material. Hell, even two cours don't wrap it up and we're left with loose ends...whatever. "READ THE SAUCE!!1!" Yeah, uhh, no. Shouldn't need to jump between mediums for a complete story, that's just horse shit. |
Nov 26, 2018 1:13 PM
#228
Nov 26, 2018 1:15 PM
#229
Nov 26, 2018 1:24 PM
#230
I don't know why they skipped how they actually discovered the eye monster. For anime only viewers it was probably a bit confusing. When GS got smashed into a tomb by the Champion, that revealed the entrance to that other room where the monster was if anyone is interested. Otherwise I think it was a nice episode. The face reveal won't be as cool now that they switched 2 arcs here but we will see, from a character development point of view the order doesn't really matter. |
Nov 26, 2018 3:59 PM
#231
MomoSinX said: I don't know why they skipped how they actually discovered the eye monster. For anime only viewers it was probably a bit confusing. When GS got smashed into a tomb by the Champion, that revealed the entrance to that other room where the monster was if anyone is interested. Otherwise I think it was a nice episode. The face reveal won't be as cool now that they switched 2 arcs here but we will see, from a character development point of view the order doesn't really matter. Time. Quite a few scenes and ideas that flesh out the narrative have been cut unfortunately. Such are the pitfalls with anime adaptations. I'd still say the cuts are not quite as bad as Grancrest Senki. |
Nov 26, 2018 10:06 PM
#232
Helios92 said: I don't think so. As much as I want to believe that happened, it probably didn't happen most of us would conclude. Goblin Slayer had Snu Snu XD GS was dead the whole time. He was also unconscious when he got brought back; spent that time being out of it getting his vitality and life force replenished. |
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Nov 26, 2018 10:26 PM
#233
tambi33 said: Arugustor said: Ahh the face tease found his hair colour and he is not ugly under that mask Sword maiden is peeking my interest more and more every episode Calm episode no goblins Piquing*9 Sorry. 😅😅 The moment when you had to be "That guy" 😂. Good episode overall. nice way to bring back GS without it being a total ass pull. Love how so many people complain about fan service, if nudity bothers you grow up. There are plenty of Oscar winning movies that have nude scenes. Pretty common in adult material, it shouldn't be the sole reason it ruined your experience. |
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Nov 26, 2018 11:43 PM
#234
Same but other reasons. Lack of context. However, that's just how some stories are made. I'll just chalk it up to lacking proper narration. Something on the level of Hunter X Hunter would've improved the story a lot. |
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Nov 27, 2018 12:36 AM
#236
The sooner Goblin Slayer ends the sooner most anime fans will stop talking about the show :) |
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Nov 27, 2018 1:19 AM
#237
papsoshea said: Just when you think this anime couldn't get any more trashier, it goes on to prove you wrong every time! Lol, more tonal dissonance from how episode 7 ended to the beginning of this episode where we have the "pleasure" of seeing some fanservice of some little tits from priestess and big tits from Sword Maiden lol and all those gratuitous camera shots on her boobs for what reason? And you get jack shit out of that scene - first, how are they healed? Well reason: Deus Ex Machina! And why did this spell have to revolve around a perverted theme that it can only work by sleeping with a virgin? Excuse for fanservice. And the Sword Maiden likes Gobin Slayer for what reasons? That whole scene just inconsistency with the tone again when trying to delve into past trauma which makes the whole thing pointless! Then more Slice of Life and generic comedic vibes when this show is "supposedly" a dark and mature fantasy (which many claimed in the episode 1 discussion) lol and the abysmal dialogue continues, Goblin Slayers dialogue is so cringe and pointless - and this episode just keeps proving the point on how one-dimensional these characters are, they are 99% incapable of talking about anything that isn't related to Goblin Slayer, even when Lancer-wannabe and Big tits Sorceress show up, conveniently bringing a bag of ass-pull (Big tits Sorceress's dialogue is retarded, why does she sound like she's out of breath? Is it because her tits are too big?). Then immediately jump back into action, against an enemy Goblin Slayer has never fought before, but like always, he reads the script! He just knows everything! You remember how he figured out about the Canary, well he also happened to learn about this being of chaos as well and everything went accordingly to plan. And then the dumb ass one-dimensional characters need to know how he did it, then Goblin Slayer proceeds to tell them and the viewers - this series is so garbage and the studio has had many chances to give it a little more than the trash source material. 1/10 again, these characters are so bad, and why is this show trying to give off the idea that Goblin Slayer and the Priestess has some special relationship when they don't lol Is everything forgetting how the Priestess character regressed in the last episode where she appeared to be exactly how she was in episode 1? Lol smh I do agree with the unnecessary boobs shot tho (call me a faggot but GS' guns and abs distracted me even more), but you know? We degenerate weebs needs fan service. Well, they could've drop it when they are not discussing Sword Maiden's past. For the resurrection ritual, except fan service & reference to real life ritual, IMO it also has function to show how ridiculously single-minded and devoted Orcbolg is on his personal crusade (I won't say he is dense because AFAIK he is aware of his 'harem' affection. And no, it's not Deus Ex Machine. The 'resurrection ritual' works when the target is severely injured. If the target is dead, nothing can bring them back. I don't know why they didn't animate when Sword Maiden explained it. Small budget is a bitch I guess. And to this 'Tonal Dissonance' thingies.... So, what do you want them to do? Doing serious things 24/7? Being "Dark & Mature" anytime, anywhere? And what's the problem with generic Slice of Life and comedy? It's not even bad. The title is 'Goblin Slayer', of course they'll often talks about the titular character. And where are you when they are talking about anything else not related to Goblin Slayer? And why is Sorceress dialogue is retarted? Many speculated it to be her method of preventing accidental spell-casting or maybe the effect of the 'thing' she is smoking. I do agree it's retarded tho. What's the definition of Ass Pull? Ass Pull is a moment when the writers pull something out of thin air in a less-than-graceful narrative development, violating the Law of Conservation of Detail by dropping a plot-critical detail in the middle, or near the end of their narrative without FORESHADOWING or dropping a CHEKOV'S GUN earlier on(source TvTropes). I won't write another paragraph to explain why this 'criticism' is invalid. And do you remember Orcbolg's quote in episode 2? "Imagination is a weapon". He is doing the same thing as when he defeated the Ogre in episode 4. Now, pls tell me how he defeated this monster without saying "hurr durr, he rEAdS the ScRIpT!!11!". Actually, Orcbolg & Priestess is going to have a somewhat special realitionship. After I read you replying almost every reply and noticed you in every single thread.... Damn man, that's a helluva lot devotion you has on hating a show.... |
Nov 27, 2018 6:25 AM
#238
@Papsoshea But I never said that...and i read everything you wrote. Also, i clearly adressed every point you made so...What? For example the scroll wasn't at all a Deus Ex Machina but you keep saying it is. You keep saying that the Goblin Slayer is a Gary Stu/Mary Sue when clearly it's not. |
GreenNetNov 27, 2018 6:37 AM
Nov 27, 2018 6:34 AM
#239
Goblin Slayer's sensei looked like a goblin himself. At least not human. Morning scene was good. Got to know a bit more about Sword Maiden. They are focusing more on the relationship between Goblin Slayer and Priestess. I mean they are main characters so it's obvious. Defeating giant eyeball with flours. Now that giant ass mirror huh. Looks like some sort of portal. |
Nov 27, 2018 7:11 AM
#240
sorry for my late-ass, i just realized i dont really have a time or even fit to write a discussion in phone on weekday, even weekend, considering im in college. figure that you received my notifications yesterday is me mistakenly hit submit when i just even started quoted it on mobile papsoshea said: Could you imagine, if the women in Berserk, looked like the women in Goblin Slayer? The characters in Berserk look a lot more realistic, they look like broken people, people who have suffered, people who have experienced the horrors of their world. Things like rape and violence aren't selectively applied either. i am agree. character design-wise, Berserk has one of the most compelling and one of the best and most realistic artstyle for dark fantasy, and i think no one can dispute that. and for me, Vol. 16 to 21 (the binding chain & birth ceremony chapter, cant remember the anime episode.) has one of a look of realistic depiction of suffering, hopeless, and horror. those arc explicitly shows the tyranny of the leader to his people in the name of false religion. papsoshea said: Could you picture the main cast in Berserk, having a scene to the likes which is seen in Episode 3 (the campfire scene) where the Berserk characters talked in the same fashion as the GS main cast did, with their mannerisms, having that generic Slice of Life/School/Rom-com kind of light-heartedness, fluff-like atmosphere in-between grimdark themes and tones? i can picture it, in fact, they actually put rom-com in between fights. berserk never shy away when it comes to your typical dirty jokes, shounen cliches, and goofy act (especially past Golden Age arc and 1/4 of Conviction arc). and they always do those while on fight or in-between these dark adventure they dwell in, whether is between the rest after the fight, or in the journey towards the fight. i can give you an example of one Berserk generic shounen fanservice and rom-com situation in vol 29: context: they resting after fight, you can read the whole fighting in vol 28 fyi, Schierke is 13, not so very far with Priestess which is 16. after this, they really went out to save a ballroom party from tiger and went full fledged war against king from southern kingdom. then again, i simply just want to say that i can picture a typical rom-com and generic fanservice inbetween grimdark themes situation in berserk, because it do exist in there, albeit not much. there are some romance inducing ones like vol 33, lightearted ones in vol 28. but still, in terms of dark themes surrounds it, Berserk is still better. papsoshea said: I would still argue that it is Deus Ex Machina, because this is a plot device, from a meta point of view in terms of storytelling - it is sudden and it's actually an OP spell, it rendered the consequences in episode 7 to dust - think back to how episode 7 ended, this could have been a very good spot for the show to really show us that there is consequences, that Goblin Slayer can really get busted to the point of near-death, then we get this scene and he is healed 100% it just feels cheap. fair enough, there are certain requirement to be met for something to be called a Deus ex Machina. and for me—after that brief explanation, her miracle aren’t easily casted because of her circumstances, and she need a holy maiden, that is a Priestess to make the miracle successful, and it takes a whole day (or more, they don’t specified) of sleeping for it to heal. that’s why i said in the previous post that it’s fine if people want to treat it as Deus ex Machina. but for me it doesnt feel like one because how complex the process to be. i mean you can think of it as cheap, but it can get cheaper than that if she just dismissed all those reason and simply maybe just said: you kiss me, you’re instantly healed. that way, Maiden can just stay behind him and kiss him whenever he’s down, and the he can kick ass 24/7/365. the lack of explanation in anime also makes it more cheap, i tell you on the next quote. papsoshea said: So anytime Goblin Slayer gets this badly injured, they can just use this spell? And what is the difference between this spell and the healing potion he used against the Ogre? The Ogre is far stronger than the Goblin Champion, and he smashed Goblin Slayer with more force and he fell from a higher distance. Obviously the potion didn't heal him to 100% but still, it just brings even more questions to the table. im agree on how badly convenient this is, there are some explanation that aren’t put in anime, so of course people will think that GS can easily used the miracle. it’s explained in the manga that the miracle requires a generous donation deducted from the pay of the adventurers, and it’s not miracle that invoked very often, because—quoted by Maiden, “after all, if it devolves into a mere harlotry, it loses is meaning”. and also, the Maiden cures him under the reason that they under contract for her in her domain, Water Town. and the places where he’s dying are just below the city, so his companion can easily bring him surface and hurriedly heal him. and as a retired adventure who now serves there, i dont think GS can conveniently use her, especially when the whole Water Town quest is entirely exclusive there. and there’s no way GS would waste his time to traveled as for to Water Town again just to be healed when he fighting in caves or villages that’s one of my opinion on why GS can’t easily use her spell, maybe you can accept that or not, up to you, this again, is one of my interpretation. but maybe we can agree this adaptation are pretty lackluster on information and detail. and let’s agree to disagree on the Deus ex Machina, we clearly have a very different interpretation of it, im expecting more straightforward, out of nowhere and instant effect to calling something a Deus ex Machina. more like in Naruto when Naruto and Sasuke visited by the legendary Hagoromo in their dream when both of them are dying just for him to give them a six paths chakra and half of rinnegan instantly. and also perfectly healed. that’s an absolute Deus ex Machina there papsoshea said: The way I see it, she likes him because the plot demands it. They haven't even clicked with each other, it's one-sided, Goblin Slayer moved away from her, she even jokes when he does. It just feels like she's another to add to his growing harem because we basically just met her 2 episodes ago and still, we don't know diddly squat about her either than her prestigious roles, she was raped, and she has big tits (since the show likes to make it a focus of her character) i dont say that GS reciprocate her feelings either, based on conversation alone i can understand that the one in the offensive is Maiden. for me, she just want to know him better by asking personal things that both only share, being a victim of goblin, and make him symphatize for it. and she also wished at least for him to protect her, or atleast guarantee her safety. she afraid after this, there are no chance for her to meet him anymore because there’s no reason to after this mission, so she use any means neccesary, and i am agree that we need more development about her. that’s why i find her quite amusing, because coming from personal experience, she’s like my friend who—after knew we had the same bad experience, always talk about it very open to me. it can be irritating how she never stop about it as if she really wants me to hear it, but i know deep inside she’s very insecure for speak it to anyone else when she really wants to, and that’s why she always happy everytime i comfort her about it. the difference is that GS isn’t like that, and Maiden just dont have all the time in the world to spent with him other than when they came and mission is completed. so let’s agree to disagree because simply i can relate to her but hey, we still agree on those, what you called it?, gratuitous body shot of her, that’s a thing! thankyou for your view, it does have a fair point on their own, and i hope you can find one too from mine. but this would be endless because surely we’re on different stance and enjoyment in how we watch this series. so let’s just agree to disagree in the sense that how very different we view it. and also i never intend to change anyone stance, and to be frank, why i give a damn about anyone stance, so take that as you will, i simply just discussed how i view the series that i enjoy watching. but i do enjoyed your point of view though, very technical. |
Nov 27, 2018 8:12 AM
#241
Was there a need to remind us that goblins rape? Like jeez, they are really pushing their fanbase by all that retrospective storytelling and the rather blatant waifu-fanservice. It's a wonder the elf wasn't in that bed, too. But did they have the balls to talk about sex here, when he meant "sharing a bad with a trope, I mean virgin" or was it maybe a phrase of which meaning I didn't get? |
Nov 27, 2018 9:51 AM
#242
Minar-kyun said: Goblin Slayer's sensei looked like a goblin himself. At least not human. Morning scene was good. Got to know a bit more about Sword Maiden. They are focusing more on the relationship between Goblin Slayer and Priestess. I mean they are main characters so it's obvious. Defeating giant eyeball with flours. Now that giant ass mirror huh. Looks like some sort of portal. His master is suppose to be a reference to Bilbo from Lord of the Ring. He looks like Bilbo when he goes into "Gollum mode" because of the ring. |
Nov 27, 2018 10:03 AM
#243
Priestess without her uniform is the cutest thing ever |
Nov 27, 2018 10:56 AM
#244
NatsukiNanami said: papsoshea said: Just when you think this anime couldn't get any more trashier, it goes on to prove you wrong every time! Lol, more tonal dissonance from how episode 7 ended to the beginning of this episode where we have the "pleasure" of seeing some fanservice of some little tits from priestess and big tits from Sword Maiden lol and all those gratuitous camera shots on her boobs for what reason? And you get jack shit out of that scene - first, how are they healed? Well reason: Deus Ex Machina! And why did this spell have to revolve around a perverted theme that it can only work by sleeping with a virgin? Excuse for fanservice. And the Sword Maiden likes Gobin Slayer for what reasons? That whole scene just inconsistency with the tone again when trying to delve into past trauma which makes the whole thing pointless! Then more Slice of Life and generic comedic vibes when this show is "supposedly" a dark and mature fantasy (which many claimed in the episode 1 discussion) lol and the abysmal dialogue continues, Goblin Slayers dialogue is so cringe and pointless - and this episode just keeps proving the point on how one-dimensional these characters are, they are 99% incapable of talking about anything that isn't related to Goblin Slayer, even when Lancer-wannabe and Big tits Sorceress show up, conveniently bringing a bag of ass-pull (Big tits Sorceress's dialogue is retarded, why does she sound like she's out of breath? Is it because her tits are too big?). Then immediately jump back into action, against an enemy Goblin Slayer has never fought before, but like always, he reads the script! He just knows everything! You remember how he figured out about the Canary, well he also happened to learn about this being of chaos as well and everything went accordingly to plan. And then the dumb ass one-dimensional characters need to know how he did it, then Goblin Slayer proceeds to tell them and the viewers - this series is so garbage and the studio has had many chances to give it a little more than the trash source material. 1/10 again, these characters are so bad, and why is this show trying to give off the idea that Goblin Slayer and the Priestess has some special relationship when they don't lol Is everything forgetting how the Priestess character regressed in the last episode where she appeared to be exactly how she was in episode 1? Lol smh I do agree with the unnecessary boobs shot tho (call me a faggot but GS' guns and abs distracted me even more), but you know? We degenerate weebs needs fan service. Well, they could've drop it when they are not discussing Sword Maiden's past. For the resurrection ritual, except fan service & reference to real life ritual, IMO it also has function to show how ridiculously single-minded and devoted Orcbolg is on his personal crusade (I won't say he is dense because AFAIK he is aware of his 'harem' affection. And no, it's not Deus Ex Machine. The 'resurrection ritual' works when the target is severely injured. If the target is dead, nothing can bring them back. I don't know why they didn't animate when Sword Maiden explained it. Small budget is a bitch I guess. And to this 'Tonal Dissonance' thingies.... So, what do you want them to do? Doing serious things 24/7? Being "Dark & Mature" anytime, anywhere? And what's the problem with generic Slice of Life and comedy? It's not even bad. The title is 'Goblin Slayer', of course they'll often talks about the titular character. And where are you when they are talking about anything else not related to Goblin Slayer? And why is Sorceress dialogue is retarted? Many speculated it to be her method of preventing accidental spell-casting or maybe the effect of the 'thing' she is smoking. I do agree it's retarded tho. What's the definition of Ass Pull? Ass Pull is a moment when the writers pull something out of thin air in a less-than-graceful narrative development, violating the Law of Conservation of Detail by dropping a plot-critical detail in the middle, or near the end of their narrative without FORESHADOWING or dropping a CHEKOV'S GUN earlier on(source TvTropes). "The literary device of deus ex machina means to solve a seemingly intractable problem in a plot by adding in an unexpected character, object, or situation. Deus ex machina often has the sense of being quite contrived, as it seems like the author must resort to something that he or she did not set up properly plot-wise." -literarydevices.com The entire sleeping with a virgin to heal all wounds was never explained or hinted before they actually did anything, This is as Deus Ex Machina as Deus Ex Machina gets dude. The Tonal Dissonance is bad in GS because, it goes against the series own logic of this being a cruel and cutthroat world established in episode 1 where ppl get killed and raped all the time, It seems like nobody is worried or cares that people can die at anytime. Nobody takes extra precautions or acts very seriously about adventuring work. This is why its bad, in a world where ppl die a bunch you would expect for the characters in the show to be as emotionally detached, pragmatic or emotionally damaged like GS. It goes against its own logic, and as a result the world and its people does not feel real, quite literally like a bunch of NPCs. Because of this realization, I realize that there are no emotional connections I can have with any of the characters this series throws at me, as a result, there is no interest in the show. But at least there will be a bunch of goblin rape doujinshi on Nhentai because of this series. :3 |
Nov 27, 2018 12:34 PM
#245
Inces_Is_Winces said: The fact that this world has "miracles" performed by priests was established in first 5 minutes of episode 1. It was also clearly stated that miracles are "granted" by gods and that beginner priestess doesn't have all of them, only light and minor heal, which GS called useless. It was very clear that there are better healing miracles and that, as Priestes gets experience, she gets new miracles.The entire sleeping with a virgin to heal all wounds was never explained or hinted before they actually did anything, This is as Deus Ex Machina as Deus Ex Machina gets dude. At no point in anime there was any opportunity to list all existing miracles. It would be ridiculous info dump. The fact that Archbishop has better miracles then beginner priest is just common sense. The claim that this ritual is "Deus Ex Machina" is, therefore, completely retarded. Things that were not previously explained will pop up in anime all the time because it is visual medium. Anime shows what happens and, if necessary, explains non obvious details. Explaining in advance looks stupid and boring. |
Nov 27, 2018 4:14 PM
#246
After eight episodes I still don't know if i like the show a lot or find it decent at best. The thing with the riddles seemed quite familiar to me, I guess from where (maybe that's a ring in his pocket?). Also I didn't quite get if he banged the girl. Anyway seeing Goblin Slayer kill some stuff in a smart way always puts a smile on my face so I'd say it was a rather good episode. |
Nov 27, 2018 5:21 PM
#247
Nov 27, 2018 5:58 PM
#248
This morning scene is the mostly annoying with fan service which's getting worse and more crappy episodes for me. 3.5/10 |
Bore55Nov 27, 2018 9:33 PM
Nov 27, 2018 6:52 PM
#249
FreezePeach said: Inces_Is_Winces said: The fact that this world has "miracles" performed by priests was established in first 5 minutes of episode 1. It was also clearly stated that miracles are "granted" by gods and that beginner priestess doesn't have all of them, only light and minor heal, which GS called useless. It was very clear that there are better healing miracles and that, as Priestes gets experience, she gets new miracles.The entire sleeping with a virgin to heal all wounds was never explained or hinted before they actually did anything, This is as Deus Ex Machina as Deus Ex Machina gets dude. At no point in anime there was any opportunity to list all existing miracles. It would be ridiculous info dump. The fact that Archbishop has better miracles then beginner priest is just common sense. The claim that this ritual is "Deus Ex Machina" is, therefore, completely retarded. Things that were not previously explained will pop up in anime all the time because it is visual medium. Anime shows what happens and, if necessary, explains non obvious details. Explaining in advance looks stupid and boring. FreezePeach said: Inces_Is_Winces said: The fact that this world has "miracles" performed by priests was established in first 5 minutes of episode 1. It was also clearly stated that miracles are "granted" by gods and that beginner priestess doesn't have all of them, only light and minor heal, which GS called useless. It was very clear that there are better healing miracles and that, as Priestes gets experience, she gets new miracles.The entire sleeping with a virgin to heal all wounds was never explained or hinted before they actually did anything, This is as Deus Ex Machina as Deus Ex Machina gets dude. At no point in anime there was any opportunity to list all existing miracles. It would be ridiculous info dump. The fact that Archbishop has better miracles then beginner priest is just common sense. The claim that this ritual is "Deus Ex Machina" is, therefore, completely retarded. Things that were not previously explained will pop up in anime all the time because it is visual medium. Anime shows what happens and, if necessary, explains non obvious details. Explaining in advance looks stupid and boring. The problem is that the show never takes the time to explain what is and isn't possible with "Miracles", and how "Miracles" are used within the story. Essentially what you are saying is that the author of this story is allowed to asspull anything because of "Miracles". This is a problem for a number of reasons: This allows the Author to write himself out of any real obstacle the party faces. Because of how vague and undefined "Miracles" are the author could very lazily use a "Miracle" to defeat any unbeatable obstacle and struggle. If Priestess dies the author could just use "Miracles" to revive her, Unbeatble Monsters are no Problem with the power of "Miracles". Consequentially there is no real weight or worry once you realize the party always have "Miracles" to save them. It is still Deus Ex Machina. "Miracles" are left intentionally vague and unknown so that the author can write himself out of any situation, rather than make the time to actually write a proper story or arc. |
Nov 27, 2018 9:07 PM
#250
Inces_Is_Winces said: why would he explain it? When would he explained? In episode 1, when it first used? How it would look? 5 minute monologue "Hey, dudes, this is narrator speaking, there are miracles, they can do almost anything, here is full list of miracles and their effects for your future reference". It is ridiculous.The problem is that the show never takes the time to explain what is and isn't possible with "Miracles", and how "Miracles" are used within the story. Essentially what you are saying is that the author of this story is allowed to asspull anything because of "Miracles". Here is the definition of word "miracle" from dictionary.com: "an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause." You don't need anime show to redefine term well known for centuries used in it most obvious unaltered meaning. This allows the Author to write himself out of any real obstacle the party faces. Because of how vague and undefined "Miracles" are the author could very lazily use a "Miracle" to defeat any unbeatable obstacle and struggle. Wake up, Author always can write himself out of any obstacle, always. Because he wrote the obstacle itself. This is not a "problem", this is just common sense.If Priestess dies the author could just use "Miracles" to revive her, Unbeatble Monsters are no Problem with the power of "Miracles". If she dies, she is dead. It is explicitly said in LN. "Resurrection" miracle can't revive dead, just quickly heal anything and everything if the patient is still alive. There are plenty of limitations for this miracle, to the point that it is rarely used and not everyone knows it exists. It is well explained in LN, there is no good way to do the same in anime. There is no any reason either, this information doesn't affect the story.This is another problem with your "logic" - GS heard about the miracle, but he just as well could not know about it in advance. How exactly it supposed to be introduced? Him discussing it with Priestess without any reason? Sword Maiden just saying "hey, have you heard about this Resurrection miracle? No? Let me tell you all about it. Goblins can wait." Ridiculous. There was no reason or good method to introduce it. Consequentially there is no real weight or worry once you realize the party always have "Miracles" to save them. They are not. They were on the brink of complete defeat at end of episode 7. They all could die just there and there were no miracles to do anything about it. They survived and got GS to the temple still alive, he was cured by people specifically proficient in healing. It barely counts as miracle, these things happen IRL all the time. Clinically dead people brought back by the miracles of medicine.It is still Deus Ex Machina. "Miracles" are left intentionally vague and unknown so that the author can write himself out of any situation, rather than make the time to actually write a proper story or arc. This is still ridiculous. There is no practical way or reason to give full definition of "miracles" in advance. They are not solution for everything. Heck, lots of them are not even particularly impressive - "minor heal" and "holy light" which Priestess had initially for example.I have a feeling that explaining these trivial things to you is a waste of time. Your "response" is utterly predictable - "whatever, this is still Deus Ex Machina, I won". Yes, it is an obviously dumb response but you are quite comfortable with it. So, I will just leave it here. |
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