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| This is product of kyoani's LN award.....an award full of KYOANI circle jerking! |
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| A bit sad there wasn't any opening, was hoping to see it hint at more future things to come. I guess Hodgins doesn't plan to tell her about Gilbert any soon. It's only going to make it more difficult for him the longer he does. Was nice to see Erica stand up for Violet already, I was worried they were going to drag out some drama between the group. Violet finally has her signature outfit now and it looks great. Looking forward to see how Violet progresses emotionally because she still has yet to smile. |
| I'm really liking this so far. Violet seems robotic but I think once she spends enough time with the other Auto Memoir Doll's she'll change. She already learned to type quieter so I'm sure it won't take her long to get the rest. Great visual storytelling in this episode! It feels like Kyoani knows how little time they have and if they stretch it out too much it could get boring with such a simplistic plot, so they've included so many tiny details. Whether it be a slight expression or the shot panning out to indicate an emotion. There's always something happening and worth looking at. Not just for the visual spectacle. |
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Well you got that right... |
 "Le vent se lève!... Il faut tenter de vivre!" - Paul Valéry, Le Cimetière Marin - |
| Lol, I accidentally clicked the spoiler tag. Wait so... is it true? Or are you just speculating? Have you read the 2 novels already? I had my speculations in the beginning so I was not so sure. The anime makes it seems that the plot point you are talking about is pretty set in stone, but maybe it may within another condition or context i am not aware of. But cool. |
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| I do not understand how he could deliver a love letter without reading it first. And feel the decency to blame Violet. That's what I do not see the meaning of that scene. |
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GreenEmu said: true that true thatI'm enjoying this show. I see that it's getting a lot of hate, but with a show that was hyped up so much backlash was inevitable. |
Hibikase said: Lol, I accidentally clicked the spoiler tag. Wait so... is it true? Or are you just speculating? Have you read the 2 novels already? I had my speculations in the beginning so I was not so sure. The anime makes it seems that the plot point you are talking about is pretty set in stone, but maybe it may within another condition or context i am not aware of. But cool. |
"Le vent se lève!... Il faut tenter de vivre!" - Paul Valéry, Le Cimetière Marin - |
| Loved this episode. My only two complaints though are that I wished it would have been longer until they started to address whether or not Gilbert is alive because I loved the ambiguity and I wish that Hodgins never said anything after "He..." and the episode title finished his sentence. I personally think that would have been more impactful. |
| Now, count up your sins! |
| Didn't notice it before but looking back at episode 1 and 2, it's there too...Benedict's very "high fashionable" choice of footwear, and overall style for that matter. This is one weird alternate universe. |
sherpico said: Hibikase said: I don't think you really understand what this show is actually about lol. But hey, you do you man. How so? Based on what we've seen so far, Violet's character is entirely defined by her past suffering and single-minded devotion to the one man who was kind to her. She has stated no desire other than to see the major and to understand what he meant when he said I love you. I'm hoping that will change at some point, but so far her character comes across less as a recognizable human than as a teenager's fantasy of a devoted woman who does nothing but think of them and spout cliched love dialogue 24/7. All of which is fine if that's what you're into. But let's not pretend it's so much deeper and more mature than the shows that other people enjoy. The fact that she doesn't come across as a recognizable human is literally the point of her character. The way I see it from what we've seen so far is that this is the story of a woman who lacks humanity and her subsequent journey to become human which is facilitated through her feelings, that she doesn't even realize she has because she doesn't understand it, for a person who was there for her. The way I've been reading everything so far it seems Violet is eventually going to understand emotions and that is going to humanize her. |
| Now, count up your sins! |
AmbitiousApple said: I have a question about this series, does Violet have romantic feelings for Gilbert? Her feelings towards Gilbert are debatable. Heck, you might not even call them feelings. It's complete faith in someone who has been always next to her, looking after her. But since she doesn't know the meaning of her feelings, she can't convey them, can she? However, if you change that question a bit, to "Does Gilbert have romantic feelings for Violet?", than I can give an answer, yes. |
Major_GilbertApr 7, 2018 7:27 AM
"Le vent se lève!... Il faut tenter de vivre!" - Paul Valéry, Le Cimetière Marin - |
| I did kind of laugh a bit of how straightforward Violet was with the letters and her coworkers. But its nice that she's still getting a chance to work at being a ghostwriter as well as getting her brooch back. Decent episode overall. |
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| I am feeling a little spoiled. Between this show and Ancient Magus Bride I cannot remember the last time there were two such fantastic anime in the same season. OH man what an episode its going to be when Violet finally learns about Gilbert. |
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| Eeeh.. I still giving this anime a benefit of doubt because it still only 2 episodes. But I'm a bit bored. So is Erica blind? I have an impression because of that typewriter history and when she said she is the one who actually doesn't suitable to the job. |
DannyTheDonkeyJan 17, 2018 9:48 PM
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| Pretty good episode. I really wanted to see more of Violet and Gilbert's first encounter. I'm really liking Cattleya as a character. When Violet put everything the client said in a super straightforward manner, I couldn't help but feel that it was some kind of social commentary. There was a little focus on Erica and that was pretty nice but I do feel like we needed much more exposition towards her character but I do like how they trying to draw some kind of parallel between the fact that people don't think Violet's suited for the job and how Erica's thinks that she herself is in the same boat. The brooch part was great. :) Hodgins is a really nice guy. :( |
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Major_Gilbert said: AmbitiousApple said: I have a question about this series, does Violet have romantic feelings for Gilbert? Her feelings towards Gilbert are debatable. Heck, you might not even call them feelings. It's complete faith in someone who has been always next to her, looking after her. But since she doesn't know the meaning if her feelings, she can't convey them, can she? However, if you change that question a bit, to "Does Gilbert have romantic feelings for Violet?", than I can give an answer, yes. To me her feeling may be she's treating Gilbert like his guardian/ protector or something. She's like a lost poppy without him, and that's why she wants to find out what these feeling is about. |
Major_Gilbert said: Her feelings towards Gilbert are debatable. Heck, you might not even call them feelings. It's complete faith in someone who has been always next to her, looking after her. But since she doesn't know the meaning if her feelings, she can't convey them, can she? However, if you change that question a bit, to "Does Gilbert have romantic feelings for Violet?", than I can give an answer, yes. Isn't it violets relationship to gilbert a bit similar to the relationship between mikasa and eren? and LOL the irony of violet's seiyuu |
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sherpico said: JD_of_Paradise said: The fact that she doesn't come across as a recognizable human is literally the point of her character. The way I see it from what we've seen so far is that this is the story of a woman who lacks humanity and her subsequent journey to become human which is facilitated through her feelings, that she doesn't even realize she has because she doesn't understand it, for a person who was there for her. The way I've been reading everything so far it seems Violet is eventually going to understand emotions and that is going to humanize her. I think a good character, even if they have gone through a lot, should still be recognizably human. Not in the sense that they feel or act the same way that we do, but that we can see their feelings and actions as an understandable result of their experiences and circumstances. In the case of Violet, I can certainly understand how someone who has suffered as much as she seems to could have trouble understanding normal human emotions, or feel very attached to the person who helped them through that. What doesn't strike me as plausible is the extreme these characteristics are taken to, where the Major is literally the only thing she cares about and she is incapable of understanding any human emotion at all. I take it that this is supposed to seem romantic, but to me it just feels unrealistic and heavy handed. I don't think Violet should be treated as regular human anyway because they keep hinting her as "weapon", so she may inherently be different from normal human, thus explain the complete social awkwardness and lack of feeling. She is more than just a soldier going through PTSD according to the flashback. I think there's something special about her. |
| "I couldn't handle calling out a womans name in bed" Yee Boiiiii ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Nah he's not dead, of course he isn't ... too much budget and production value was wasted on that characters so he must be alive lol. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, ARE THEY MACHINES OR HUMANS ? I feel like the doll is just term used in this world, nothing more. |
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| I can appreciate slow paced anime but this is boring you know its bad when during both episodes you check the video to see if it's almost over just to see its got over 10 minutes left. Will probably drop this but may give it 1 more episode. Honestly it's like the anime is trying to force "feels" rather then telling a good story and letting it happen naturally. |
| Lol at how blunt Violet is. How she wrote the letter and her remarks on the other dolls' letters heavily mirrors Sagara Sousuke in that you gotta take everything literally and objectively! I don't think a woman who has been a weaponized soldier all her life would make a good ghostwriter because she lacks the "feels" to do the job. Well she better start feeling it soon or risk getting fired or sabotaging the company. So she's going to get some "training" from some teachers eh? I can't wait to see how that turns out lol. I kind of wish that this episode took a more comedic approach, and then gradually enter the drama in the later episodes as the story progresses. Also, finding the Brooch was pretty convenient... GangsterCat said: and that ending song's singer sounds absolutely awful btw. remove the vocal and the song might actually be really good. I don't know what was worse: the song, or the song being played over a monologue. Funny how you mention removing the vocals since it seems the music was composed by Evan Call and Elements Garden, the same composers for Symphogear G and GX. ^_^ |
TarotistJan 18, 2018 12:18 AM
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Tarotist said: Lol at how blunt Violet is. How she wrote the letter and her remarks on the other dolls' letters heavily mirrors Sagara Sousuke in that you gotta take everything literally and objectively! I don't think a woman who has been a weaponized soldier all her life would make a good ghostwriter because she lacks the "feels" to do the job. Well she better start feeling it soon or risk getting fired or sabotaging the company. So she's going to get some "training" from some teachers eh? I can't wait to see how that turns out lol. I kind of wish that this episode took a more comedic approach, and then gradually enter the drama in the later episodes as the story progresses. Also, finding the Brooch was pretty convenient... GangsterCat said: and that ending song's singer sounds absolutely awful btw. remove the vocal and the song might actually be really good. I don't know what was worse: the song, or the song being played over a monologue. Funny how you mention removing the vocals since it seems the music was composed by Evan Call and Elements Garden, the same composers for Symphogear G and GX. ^_^ Ah yes, we meet again my comrade in Symphogear arms |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| i dont care what anybody says about this show .. i love it so far |
| Not as good as the pilot episode but it gave us more idea of the setting of the world and how the dolls came to be. I like the two girls who got introduced in this episode even though I am reading that they are filler characters. Nothing much to add but I am looking forward to know what actually happened to Gilbert. It is strongly implied that he's dead but it could be something else. Unless they tell me that he's dead, I will cling onto the brooch like Violet and think that he's still amongst the living. Hibikase said: But doesn't reading and writing come hand in hand? If you can read, you can write, and vice versa. You do have a valid point but it's not always the case. Hey, I myself for an example of someone who can read a couple of languages (one of them is Japanese, I would say I can read basic Japanese, around 500 kanji) but cannot write them (including some hiragana, the shapes are all over the place when I want to write them even though I know how they look like). Because I was never taught the stroke orders and the proportion of sizes nor did I learn them myself. Violet Evergarden is actually a well thought out production so far. I dunno how much is covered in the novel regarding the world but KyoAni already set the foundation of the world it is taking place in. Lack of education happens in a post war era when the war was prolonged, that went on for like years so the public wouldn't have access to even basic education due to lack of infrastructure even after the war had ended. WWI and WWII are examples where the mainland of Europe and Eastern Europe had a demise in basic education. Also, we know that the technologies usually take giant leap during wars. WWI and WWII instigated some of the most amazing (originally developed for military purposes) technologies, byproducts of which also boomed industrialization during the post war era. An example would be the research and development of FETs that changed the whole civilization in the next 70 years to this date. This can be related to both the automobile industry that got mentioned in this episode through a woman who received Violet's ridiculously straightforward letter and the prosthetic hands that Violet has. We have to understand that THEY are in a world that is similar to ours but not exactly the one we are living in. At least this should come across to fans given the way it is shown that the world is a mix of different cultures. Notice how Benedict is effortlessly using chopsticks to eat "Yakisoba" in a post war pseudo European setting. Sounds trivial, but it was shown intentionally, which is called visual story telling. It's a world where they use a language that is different from ours. The characters are a mix of different symbols and existing ones we find in different languages seen in the typewriter. "F" and "J" are mentioned but they don't even exist on the typewriter Violet was using. We will also notice the story also contains both Japanese and English honorifics when people are addressed. If someone pays close attention to small details, it is actually a very well thought out writing. No one ever asked how and why Edward's hand or leg moved in FMA but people are trying to nitpick on almost anything in this one because they are too preoccupied with the idea that this story is taking place in OUR world when it clearly isn't. I will reiterate. THEY are in a world that is similar to ours but not exactly the one we are living in. |
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| watching Violet is like watching Saber without common sense. and as I suspected, the major is already dead. |
| I enjoyed this episode a bit more than the first and while it felt like it didn't add much besides delving more into the setting, the characters appeared to be more livelier and it really sold me on Violet, who may very well make it to waifu of the season. |
mc093Jan 18, 2018 1:52 AM
Dillan- said: who may very well make it to waifu of the season. One would rather have a waifu like Zero Two in Darling in the FranXX over someone who doesn't even know what love is. :D |
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Sacerdotisa said: I do not understand how he could deliver a love letter without reading it first. And feel the decency to blame Violet. That's what I do not see the meaning of that scene. I partly agree with you on that scene. As there was another "doll" around I cannot imagine that the other one at least would take a look at the finished letter. Same goes for the client. Wouldn't the client at least want that the letter would be read out loud for them, before sending it away to her love interest? I wonder if Erica actually felt bad for it because she knew that she should have done it instead of Violet. As she is longer in the business, it would have been her obligation to sift through the written letter or to observe Violet while she's writing it. As it goes for Cattleya, I wonder if she will be able to turn these happenings around. As I think that this story will be told in a partly episodic way, it would be nice, if we were to seen the female client at a later point with her loved one - even if it might be only for a short moment. But actually, I'm not sure, if we will see this client ever again, because of the storytelling aspects of this show. Anyway, for the rest of this episode, I REALLY liked it. I also liked the background music, even the ending song of this episode. That's because I kinda imagined the feelings of Erica to be reflected and the voice, which was depicted there, kinda suited Erica and the situation of her. Swagernator said: "I couldn't handle calling out a womans name in bed" Yee Boiiiii ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Nah he's not dead, of course he isn't ... too much budget and production value was wasted on that characters so he must be alive lol. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, ARE THEY MACHINES OR HUMANS ? I feel like the doll is just term used in this world, nothing more. Hahaha, yeah. Cattleya is such a lovely and funny character, I already like her a lot. I think she'll play an important part on how to break the "ice" of Violet to get her to understand what all these feeling are about, which are slumbering not understood way too long inside of her. Heeeey Booiya! x3 As it is told at the end of the episode, I strongly believe that the dolls are human, yes. They even told us how this name for the ghostwriting profession came to be. Although, I wasn't sure at first about Violet, but the scene when she changed cleared these doubtes for me. (We were able to see her scars on the body.) I imagine her being raised as a "tool" like it actually does happen in our real world with kid soldiers who were kidnapped from their families previously. Somehow it also reminds me on the Canaan anime, which has been one of my favorites. It is also set in a background, inwhich war and battles take an important role, though it is more of an action anime than Slice of Life. About confronting yourself with the past which lies behind you. As it is for now, I don't mind, if it is going a bit in the slice of life direction, I think there will come some cruel moments filled wih sadness and probably also not that pleasing to the eye as the current visuals are. Don't get me in the wrong way, I still think the animation will be on a high quality level, but more with flashbacks from the time during the battles. I also thin that the little comedic aspects lighten the show a bit, which might be welcomed by the dark topic of the background story. JD_of_Paradise said: sherpico said: How so? Based on what we've seen so far, Violet's character is entirely defined by her past suffering and single-minded devotion to the one man who was kind to her. She has stated no desire other than to see the major and to understand what he meant when he said I love you. I'm hoping that will change at some point, but so far her character comes across less as a recognizable human than as a teenager's fantasy of a devoted woman who does nothing but think of them and spout cliched love dialogue 24/7. All of which is fine if that's what you're into. But let's not pretend it's so much deeper and more mature than the shows that other people enjoy. The fact that she doesn't come across as a recognizable human is literally the point of her character. The way I see it from what we've seen so far is that this is the story of a woman who lacks humanity and her subsequent journey to become human which is facilitated through her feelings, that she doesn't even realize she has because she doesn't understand it, for a person who was there for her. The way I've been reading everything so far it seems Violet is eventually going to understand emotions and that is going to humanize her. @JD_of_Paradise Well decribed. I see it kinda similar, but probably weren't able to depict it that beautifully and get to the point that straight. :3 Thank you. Top_Sergeant said: I am feeling a little spoiled. Between this show and Ancient Magus Bride I cannot remember the last time there were two such fantastic anime in the same season. OH man what an episode its going to be when Violet finally learns about Gilbert. Hahaha, me too! xD I am so curious about the upcoming developments! (In both series. ;) ) Last but not least, I don't think that the major is dead. Someone must have paid for violets healing costs, but also for her artificial limbs. They seem to be of high quality. Must have been cost a fortune if I try to imagine it in this setting. Well, maybe because she probably had an important role in the war... Who knows. I'm also kinda interested in the background story of violet and her origins. |
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| Another visually amazing episode and also having just noticed the soundtrack, it's pretty fucking solid too |
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