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Nov 4, 2017 3:35 PM

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So this is basically Ousama game #2 in flashback form
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Nov 4, 2017 7:59 PM
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After re-watching this episode again, I kinda found out the explanation for Kaori and Nobuaki's part, but the anime just made it's editing SO BAD so everything just doesn't make sense...

Anyway, I would say it's not really all Nobuaki's fault who make Kaori cry, but for sure more then HALF of it is because of him.
Cos u can pretty much see that when Kaori confronted Nobuaki, she said that "You Killed Yousuke" here.
So, she SOMEHOW kinda found out that Yousuke is DEAD even though Nobuaki just called her (by lying for saying Yousuke is ok, in order NOT to make her cry) .
but ended up, she kinda did something behind Nobuaki's back. (even though the anime didn't show any sign of doing this)
That is why she suddenly appear out of nowhere BEHIND Nobuaki and knock him unconscious, and tie him up in...somewhere else (guessing the scene is showing the school's storeroom or something, I can't think of anywhere else~)

And by the way looking at how Kaori confronted him, Nobuaki thought that Kaori found out that Yousuke is dead before he told her the truth, so he ended up spilling everything without lying anymore.
And by doing so, Kaori ended up crying and being punish by it, cos the bad news she actually hope NOT TO HEAR from Nobuaki by confirming Yousuke is indeed dead became the TRUTH afterall.
Nobuaki was shocked to see this since he promise Yousuke that he will protect her afterall, but what he said to her ended up killing her here even though he thought that she SHOULD already know what actually happen and she SHOULDN'T CRY base on the order, but still ended up as "It's my fault!? I made you cry!?" instead.

And there u go.
PS: I guess the anime flashback ended up won't be showing Nobuaki going to Yonaki Village for the 1st TIME at all since the scene have changed.
(Unless the anime decides to play the 'teleporting character' scene, then he might end up going to Yonaki Village before anyone notice it LOL)
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Nov 4, 2017 8:06 PM

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Fabulasama_Ed said:
AironicallyHuman said:


The 'good' news is, they're speed-running through the (also atrocious, and also unintentionally comical/lol Yousuke) manga. If they just focus on the prequel next ep, the entire last half of the manga will be focused on the sequel, without interruption. Too bad that seems just as bad going on what's been shown so far.

Just read Ousama: Kigen/Origin instead: it's set during 1977, in Yonaki village, and is actually surprisngly well-written, without juvenile sex bollox... with deaths that are more disturbing than funny. And no sodding mobile phones/'die if you cry' retardation. Luckily it seems this anime isn't adapting it.. unless they cover it in delayed trip to Yonaki village. As comical as three series in 12 eps would be, plz no.

Typing of, dunno why they changed it so Nobuaki didn't go to Yonaki. In the manga Kaori jumps him at Yonaki. And lol at him actively attempting to make her cry by telling her everything, after previously trying to hide Yousuke's death. Mamoru is a great voice actor/Light Yagami, but my gawd: playing such a crybaby idiot makes him horribly overwrought.
crybaby idiot? If you talk about nobuaki then I dont get why do you call him crybaby when actually he tries to stay strong most of the time besides all the stuff happening, or why you call him idiot when he is trying to find a solution, not just letting himself die


I meant how Nobuaki's melodramatic, stage-play dialogue makes him sound on the verge of tears when Mamoru voices him. A bad combination, in a series more horrifying in the unintentional sense.

Everyone in Ousama is an idiot, including the raped-by-dad-in-anime-for-some-reason stoic 'genius' girl that wants to be killed by saying she's the king.
Nov 4, 2017 8:18 PM
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Tarotist said:
Fabulasama_Ed said:
yeah sure... Crying for the people you care, or for an stressing situation is being a "pussy", yeah, we are all robots...

Hmm now that you put it that way, Nobuaki must be one hell of a robot if he can resist crying after being forced to witness that many deaths. Maybe his tearducts are malfunctioning...
He is just trying hard to stay strong... On the "present time" timeline you can see that after all the time he tried to stay strong, he is now with some kind of trauma and sad most of the time.
Nov 4, 2017 8:37 PM
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AironicallyHuman said:
Fabulasama_Ed said:
crybaby idiot? If you talk about nobuaki then I dont get why do you call him crybaby when actually he tries to stay strong most of the time besides all the stuff happening, or why you call him idiot when he is trying to find a solution, not just letting himself die


I meant how Nobuaki's melodramatic, stage-play dialogue makes him sound on the verge of tears when Mamoru voices him. A bad combination, in a series more horrifying in the unintentional sense.

Everyone in Ousama is an idiot, including the raped-by-dad-in-anime-for-some-reason stoic 'genius' girl that wants to be killed by saying she's the king.
j that is like the point... Nobuaki is trying to stay strong and holding tears most of the time even after all the things that happened... That is why he talks like that. "Stage play dialogue"? Ok you are trying to ridiculize the lines but is not really that way...
Saying that everyone in Ousama is an idiot is an absurd way to oversize, and not considerate that the stress, fear and pressure of the context is obviously going to make the characters not to take the best decisions, it would be actually unrealistic and edgy (yeah the word that most of the people here likes to overuse when they dont like something and want to put it down just for the sake of it) if these high school regular students could handle the situation like they were the combination of an android with iron nerves and Sherlock Holmes. The silver haired girl is not an idiot neither, actually is the only one focusing more on survive than letting herself get carried by the fear
Nov 4, 2017 11:54 PM

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Squidster said:
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because if he wouldnt have said that, maybe her in her fear and erratic mind state would have killed him with the bat? Duh...

You're only the fourth person to quote me one this, m8.


Dw, some people are just too young to understand the concept of sarcasm, which is a pretty obvious one in your context.
Nov 5, 2017 12:15 AM
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MistLiigh said:
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I don't get how learning the dude you liked liked you back when he died, is enough to make someone think, "It's worth dying to cry over the fact that the guy likes me!"
Maybe it's because I'm a cold-hearted asshole, but I cannot sympathize or empathize with the idiotic girl.


I doubt she thought about the fact that crying would mean death before it was already too late, and if she did it was probably more along the lines of "no no no I can't cry crap I'm crying." While I have to agree that I may not have cried (hard to be sure until you're actually there though) and maybe you wouldn't have cried (hard to say without knowing you personally), but we'd be the odd ones in that regard. Most humans are ruled by emotion more than logic, and even the most starkly logical person can fall prey to strong emotion under heavy stress. And if this series has made anything clear, it's that these kids are not very logical at all, even moreso than you would expect from a bunch of hormonal teenagers. Of course it's still hard to care about her death, but more because the show does a terrible job of making you want to care about anyone, which is amplified even further by the flashback hell setup that tells you they're all going to die anyways.


The point here is, Yousuke and Kaori didn't really tell each other how they felt for each other to begin with, so it's kinda like having some regrets matter afterwards here.
Before Yousuke die, he was wishing to hear Kaori's voice for one last time (or u should say, he actually should tell Kaori about his feeling towards her BEFORE he die, but he doesn't get the chance to fulfill this wish.)

For Kaori, she cried for the fact that she finally knew how Yousuke feels towards her as how she felt towards Yousuke too.
But she NEVER really get to tell him about it, she only make it like it's a hint for what to expect when the game ends and they survive together.
And the thing is, she couldn't hear Yousuke saying it out by himself, and by hearing it from Nobuaki about how Yousuke truly feel and care about her just makes it feels even more painful then ever, hence she WILL CRY no matter what.
And just before she die, she's actually relieve on the other hand though, since she have no more regrets after knowing everything.

Anyway, there's how I see it though~
but as usual, BAD ANIME with LOSS DETAILS = BAD for everything confirm~
Nov 5, 2017 5:38 AM
*hug noises*

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This anime is an insult to common sense
Nov 5, 2017 11:59 AM

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I'm going to pretend I didn't watch this.
Nov 5, 2017 6:12 PM
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If I said I wasnt laughing throughout this entire episode, I'd be lying. Here I thought the deaths couldn't look any more ridiculous but boy I was wrong. The one dude's body broke apart like a toy or something. Not to mention the people who died cause they cried and yet the MC makes his friend's love interest cry and die at the end.

Like how dumb can this show get? loool.
Nov 5, 2017 7:07 PM
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Holy crap I hope the flashbacks end soon. The show is bad enough as it is, but from what I’ve heard it’s actually a sequel to the source material and there are so many flashbacks it would’ve been easier at this point for them to make a direct adaptation. They attempted the make Yousuke’s death dramatic but it just seemed extra and stupid. This show is so trashy (gonna continue it anyway though because I’m a sucker for pseudo horror because I’m too cowardly for real horror anime so I’m willing to watch crappy anime like this lol)
Nov 6, 2017 7:34 AM
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Sem duvidas, é um bom anime.
Mas falta mais explicações, porque só fala do passado, quero saber o que vai acontecer
com a turma do protagonista atual, e não de sua turma passada, que só ele sobreviveu....
Nov 6, 2017 10:03 AM

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SigOpram said:
QuattroVaginas said:
Because I wasn't arguing anything, just pointing out that the only things that doesn't make sense are your comments.

I'm not even asking a question so why explain anything? Look again it's a declarative sentence.

You started by asking a question. Which I answered. Then you tried to justify why it doesn't make sense, by not making any sense yourself. So I pointed it out.

Actually what are you even trying to say here?

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I don't fucking know man. Good question to ask yourself.

Haha that's some unnecessary passive-aggression right there.

And here? I continued the tone from your own words: "That's my point. What's so f'ing difficult to understand with that? It's so frigging simple." Just because I un-contracted "fucking" doesn't make it passive aggressive. In fact, I read your first unedited reply, which was full of "unnecessary passive-aggression". Or this last comment, which straight up sounds like you throwing a tantrum.

But it seems you missed the entire point of my reply there.

SigOpram said:

???

Also, he doesn't make it clear it's his first time going. He makes it clear he needs to go there to investigate. He evidently did not go this episode, and even he makes another failed attempt next episode or any time in the future, there are no contradictions.

Then why don't you fucking answer a fucking simple question - Why investigate twice?

He didn't, because he hasn't investigated a first time. I answered this question in my very first comment:

QuattroVaginas said:
SigOpram said:
One thing doesn't make sense to me.

He had gone to the village in the past so why is he going again in the present?

He didn't go. Come on man, this is the type of show where you gotta pay attention.

Completely innocuous response to your question. There shouldn't have been a conversation after that.

In fact you answered this question yourself, which is what I was referring to above when I told you to ask yourself. It wasn't snark. I'll quote you for your convenience, since you cropped the context:

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If he's going in the present with the intention of looking for clues then that means he hasn't gone there in the past or at least found any clue to end the game, which means next episode (if the flashback continues) it would be shown how he didn't make it (in the past).

That's my point. What's so f'ing difficult to understand with that? It's so frigging simple.

So why does it still not make sense to you?

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Still doesn't "make sense"? To be honest, that's a "valid" mystery question. So yeah it fucking makes sense to ask this question. I guess this explanation doesn't "make sense" for you too, huh?

You're clearly confused. If an event has possible reasonable explanations, it makes sense. At least it's finally starting to make sense why you make no sense. Typical crime drama scenario: if you see someone dead with a knife in their chest, it makes sense, because knives can kill. You don't know who killed them, or if the knife was the cause, but that doesn't make the crime scene nonsense.

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The whole goddamn point of the question is that I want to know more details about what happened, okay? It's that fucking simple. It's not about proving that there's a "contradiction" or a fucking plothole. I just want to understand how did this happen. To know more about it.

OK. But your questions keep assuming that he already went and investigated in the past. In which case, you would be right that it wouldn't make sense. But this didn't happen. If you were asking "why did he never investigate the village before the second game," then I never would have replied to you in that case. But that wasn't the question you posed. You keep asking the same question I already answered.

SigOpram said:

At least I'm not insulting someone implying him he's dumber than the anime itself.

Actually, I said to try not to outdumb the show. Didn't imply that you were already. But you're making a strong case with your later comments. You contradict yourself every sentence, so much that you can almost read through all of your own comments in this thread and argue with yourself ad infinitum.

This show at least has the decency to be as entertaining as it is stupid. I'll read your next reply, but I doubt it'll be anything worth responding to or even coherent.
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Nov 8, 2017 2:16 PM
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Man, this series is way too hard to take seriously anymore. It's borderline comedic at this point.

The way that guy died literally looked like someone broke their action figure and threw it's limbs around.

Sure is. I laughed out loud at the way you put it. It's perfect haha
Nov 9, 2017 1:36 AM

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Nobuaki getting hit by the taser sounds like me when I bust a NUT.
Nov 9, 2017 2:57 PM
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It actually hurts how edgy this is. Im watching this and i suddenly start questioning my own existence. Why is the world without meaning? Why was i not born as a white man. Why is my nose flat. Why did God leave humanity un-supervised. Someone help me.
Nov 10, 2017 2:17 PM

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This is stupid beyond redemption.

Is crying somethin unnecessary? What the hell are those stupid, random rules. Crying is bad, you gotta be punished instantly. Searching about King`s Game? Well, after some time. Kidnapping someone? Nope.

This is so absurd.

This is the Nanaki village from Mayoiga, I am pretty sure. If they say it out loud and mock this Mayo-garbage-yoiga then I will give them 10 out of 10.
Nov 11, 2017 9:30 AM
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if cry, you will be kill!!! kekeke
Dec 9, 2017 9:21 PM

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More people I don't care about getting killed for incredibly stupid reasons, yay...

Ria came back and tased Nobuaki for no clear reason, I guess that's good. She's my new favorite character for that, but then the show immediately defiled her, that was really gross.

If this wasn't so comically bad I don't think I would be able to sit through it.


Same. Ria's definitely the best female character in this show, considering what Nobuaki said about him being the only survivor, she's going to die sooner or later and that sucks. I felt sorry for her, Nobuaki treats her like shit and yet she was raped by her father? The author has a hard-on for NTR, rape, incest and all that twisted shit.

The deaths don't bother me, they never did, they were all shitty from the beginning. The only guy I felt somewhat sorry for was that rich, nerdy kid who wanted to be a rockstar.

Punished for CRYING? LOL. Yousuke just spontaneously combusted. Too bad he couldn't hear his crush's voice one last time, Ousama was like, "not today bitch!"
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Dec 15, 2017 3:45 PM
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REALLY SAD EPISODE X_X
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Nov 5, 2019 6:03 PM
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What's the point with all these flashbacks that span the entire episode? This really is getting worse and worse...
Jan 19, 2020 8:03 AM
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To be honest, this episode was quite hilarious and ridiculous. First, I think it's a bit weird that the show tried to get us to believe that Kaori had not been checking her phone before Nobuaki called her. Given the situation that they are all in, I think it would be extremely stupid not to check your phone since you could mistakenly ignore something that could end up costing your life. If my assumption is right, there is no way she missed the notification for Yuusuke's punishment since it happened prior to the call.
Second, Yuusuke's death was ridiculous, to say the least. Once again, don't any of these kids have parents or guardians? Given the amount of screaming Yuusuke did, I would assume that someone would have come budging into the room to see what was wrong.
Third, it's really a pity how the script has chosen to develop Ria's character and interactions. She is clearly a voice of reason yet the show is dead set on making her an enemy for no reason other than she is antisocial. It's absurd to automatically think and conclude that antisocial people are creeps.
Finally, I don't get how 'crying' is unnecessary. From the first episode, the conditions for loosing or winning a game have always been clearly defined so this time around, it made no sense to have such ambiguous instructions since there has never been a hint that crying is not permitted. There is absolutely no merit to a game where the odds are all in the gamemasters favour...
Nov 9, 2020 1:56 PM
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Dying because you cry lmao, at least it's original
Jan 31, 2022 4:12 PM

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I was really trying my best to give this anime the benefit of the doubt. Lowest I scored any episode till now was 2, but now it's all 1's from here on out. This is like the anime equivalent of a terrible creepypasta.

Kaori, you had one job.
Oct 25, 2023 7:44 PM

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Well I would definitely be safe since there's no danger of crying from this shitshow. Though I'd have to be careful not to shed a tear when yawning. Ria was the one good thing going for this show and of course even she's not safe from the Sex Assault Game. Who knows, maybe her father was playing too and was just protecting her /s. At least we know why she has that taser (which she used to great efficacy).
Sep 8, 2024 8:07 AM

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So, on the other hand, you'll have to decide whether you want to tell what happened or what's going to happen xD
Dec 2, 2024 8:56 PM

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The game rules are weird. Death game should have clear and understandable rules, but here its completely random. They are almost impossible to solve and the element of thinking about riddle disappears and everything turns into an execution.

But its still interesting to watch for some reason.
And damn its almost guro. Is it just me or have there been too few such violent anime lately? Thats bad, anime industry becomes really boring.
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wwwwwwwww. it's a w episode, great
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