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| Are you fucking kidding me!?!? How fucked up this episode is? What the fuck. So, Shizu wanted to help these ship folks, but yeah sure they don't know how to live on land; that's understandable since they're so accustomed living in that ship. But that Ti kid fucking stabbed Shizu just because she felt like offended after he said that she can go back to that ship country? Why on earth would you stab him!?!? She's gone in the head. Bye. I can't trust that kid at all. And now she's with Shizu which is cute, but I can't trust that kid with the face of the death. Hahaha. Glad there's a scene after the credits because I don't want Shizu to die. Fuck that Ti kid, maaan. She can choke. I honestly thought Shizu is gonna die because he's already gasping for air there. Ship country run by machines. Nice. RIP to the ship country folks. They're gonna go Titanic soon. Good episode. 4/5. The kid just pisses me off the reason why I can't give it a 5/5. Ugh. HenshinDrift said: nazsa said: I'm not 100% sure, but I think by then kino will be too old to hide her true gender. If anyone has a different answer, let me know. Nope. Actually Shizu already knew Kino is a girl from episode 2. Fuck this shit. I didn't know Kino is a girl. I thought she's a boy after all this time. I haven't watched the original series, so this is a spoiler for me. Jeez. |
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TheDoggoneGirl said: Fuck this shit. I didn't know Kino is a girl. I thought she's a boy after all this time. I haven't watched the original series, so this is a spoiler for me. Jeez. It is already being revealed in episode 2, if you pay attention. Look at episode 2 discussion, already massive spoiler there. |
HenshinDrift said: TheDoggoneGirl said: Fuck this shit. I didn't know Kino is a girl. I thought she's a boy after all this time. I haven't watched the original series, so this is a spoiler for me. Jeez. It is already being revealed in episode 2, if you pay attention. Look at episode 2 discussion, already massive spoiler there. Since I was already spoiled, idc anymore. Haha. Yeah, I just noticed that Kino's gender is already indicated in the Synopsis with the "A tale of one girl and her bike". Byeee. Haha. |
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Atavistic said: No, I'm just basing it off of the original series and how Kino acts there; this show presents Kino in a way that entirely contradicts her general rules (not least of which being to only use the gun when necessary, not to use it all the time like she has been this series), which to me means that this series at least appears not to understand Kino as a character whatsoever. By extension, this seeming misunderstanding also means that the messages of the episodes seem seriously skewed and far less ambiguous than they're supposed to be (again, I'm saying this based on how the original series did things). Also, rather than just posting a snarky comment, why not explain to me why it's me who doesn't understand Kino as a character, rather than the people behind the show? I don't mind people questioning my viewpoint on things, but at least try to do so in a constructive manner. Well, I don't know about being a snarky comment because you're doing the same thing. I didn't read the Light Novel, only few chapters, so I don't know how Kino is portrayed in it. Is this this Kino you are refering to, or the Kino of 2003's? If you know only the 2003's Kino, how can you be sure you know who Kino originally was. I don't state you're wrong, just wondering if your opinion was biaised of the 03's or if you read the novel and that was a honest comparison because she ain't like that in it. What do you think about Sigsawa's interview regarding this answer? (Source) Keiichi Sigsawa said: Is there a message you would like to give the fans in regard to the upcoming anime? The anime's relationship with my stories will be the same, since I do all the checks for the story's scripts. The only thing that's different is that production has been modernized. The animation style is more updated, which is what fans can look forward to most. Same Kino stories, new look. Well I don't mind everyone can have is own idea of who Kino is and who Kino's supposed to be, but your comment surprised me. |
| I almost liked this one. I didn't mind switching the focus to Shizu. It was a little weird but I can roll with that. Almost justifies the new series biggest misstep. Their version of the Coliseum story. They didn't want to waste time telling it fully. But had to introduce Shizu. I also really liked the parable element of this one. The fear of change and the unknown clouding your better judgment. Is a relatable and recognizable message. But there were two things that brought this episode back down for me. One what the hell was Kino doing? Why would they be an Overseer? That seems horribly out of character. When they said a new traveler had become an overseer. I kind of assumed it was Kino. And awaited a big twist for why they would do such a thing. But none came. And just as quickly as our wise beyond her years, dispassionate protagonist decided to become a slave overseer. She cast that aside and started pumping her previous employers full of rubber bullets. Kino doesn't feel like Kino anymore to me. Maybe I'm being a whiny pedant over here. And their characterization is really not so different. But she feels less serious is I think what the problem is. She doesn't seem as sharp and makes so many baffling decisions. And the icing on the cake was I hated the very end. So dumb and overwrought. And I had even been liking Ti's story too. But honestly kind of cringed at the climax there both the knife and grenade part. |
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| What does the motorcycle mean about Shizu in the end? Does it mean that Shizu will again become something amazing someday? |
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| ^Maybe the next time they met, they'll really have to kill each other? Or when they meet again, they'll have to fight galactic demon lord? IDK, even most novel readers don't understand what he meant. Atavistic said: No, I'm just basing it off of the original series and how Kino acts there; this show presents Kino in a way that entirely contradicts her general rules (not least of which being to only use the gun when necessary, not to use it all the time like she has been this series), which to me means that this series at least appears not to understand Kino as a character whatsoever. By extension, this seeming misunderstanding also means that the messages of the episodes seem seriously skewed and far less ambiguous than they're supposed to be (again, I'm saying this based on how the original series did things). Also, rather than just posting a snarky comment, why not explain to me why it's me who doesn't understand Kino as a character, rather than the people behind the show? I don't mind people questioning my viewpoint on things, but at least try to do so in a constructive manner. Unfortunately, Didji is right, you misunderstood Kino. Because 2003 anime generally presented Kino a bit "nicer" than her selfish distant novel counterpart which this anime based on due to its selection of stories and anime-only change (like in Coliseum). In the novel, She has rules and moral but willing to bend them when necessary, that include a nice sum of valuables or food (especially food) or if it won't impact her negatively. Yes, if you pay her she's even willing to kill people. Her neutrality is more because she didn't want to attract unecessary trouble than some rule, she just want to travel. In ep 2, she was forced to fight, and she was angry at the country (not just the king, but everyone in coliseum); Ep 3, I admit this was more of her whim for not wanting to see the children sad, still the moving country gave her a free ride, and (possibly also free) food. And in this episode, the tower clan gave her better lodging than living among the commoner like Shizu did. Her quickly changing side was because the AI suddenly decided not to go to the land (her destination). As for her 3 days rule (since she broke it 2 episodes straight), Kino is willing to extend or shorten her stay when necessary. She tend to extend her stay during winter (if she can't go to warmer place) or when the country is mobile with set destination. Story wise, we only see Kino extend her stay in these two episodes, but she mentioned the winter one in one story. She shorten her stay whenever she sense danger in the country (usually followed by the country got hit by disaster or destroyed)... Or the country is just too weird for her taste. |
HenshinDrift said: nazsa said: I'm not 100% sure, but I think by then kino will be too old to hide her true gender. If anyone has a different answer, let me know. Nope. Actually Shizu already knew Kino is a girl from episode 2. But Kino doesn't know that Shizu knows that she is a girl lol. |
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| Shizu changed from calling her 'Kino-kun' to 'Kino-san' though, so Kino should know that he knows. |
ThatCynicalOtaku said: Epicenter said: I still don't buy the logic. She was the one who was helping him figure out there were so many issues with the ship, she never tried to stop him when he went to confront them and he even had a sword. And even after that, it was clear he was a good dude, and had told the people not go back on the ship and only caved because of what they told him, it was obvious he was only telling her not to miss going back cause he assumed she'd want to. She could of just asked to stay with him or have some sort of conversation, but her first reaction to being told to get back on the ship is to stab the man? From all she's seen of him, that was a pretty cruel and cold reaction. But then after he's nice to her while dying, she completely goes the other direction and decides they're close enough that she'll die to go down with the dude she stabbed in the first place? If her abandonment issues are this severe, and she has no common sense, she's flat out still dangerous, what if he goes to the washroom some day and she thinks he's he's leaving her by not having her come with him? She gonna stab him then too? Something is really off about how this was displayed. Almost nothing about this episode even implied that the girl was mentally disturbed. It didn't appear she was abused in any way. At most, she was just really shy. Stabbing people like that seems pretty disturbed to me, and then trying to blow yourself up. |
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Epicenter said: If her abandonment issues are this severe, and she has no common sense, she's flat out still dangerous, what if he goes to the washroom some day and she thinks he's he's leaving her by not having her come with him? She gonna stab him then too? Something is really off about how this was displayed. Actually, you are not far from the truth here. But all I could say (without spoiling anything) is that the girl definitely isn't dumb or lacking in common sense. boku said: Shizu changed from calling her 'Kino-kun' to 'Kino-san' though, so Kino should know that he knows. Seconds this. The "shocked to death" statement is actually confusing to many LN readers. Read somewhere that it was supposed to be an open-ended thing, i.e. it is up to the readers to figure out what it means... That said, I am yet to find a convincing explanation for it. A lot of people seemed to like this episode, which came off as a surprise to me (in a good way)... This was adapted from two chapters that are over a hundred pages long, and the sudden cuts + the lost characterizations of Kino and Ti will immediately jump out at those who have read it. (If Ti's actions felt like it totally came out of nowhere, it's probably because the buildup was lacking somehow). There are parts here that I really like though, such as the one with Shizu and Ti sharing the coat as well as the sunset scene. On a side note, didn't expect the MAL episode 4 thread to be this peaceful... I guess the whiners have abandoned ship after episode 3, huh... (Uh, pun not intended) |
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SubscriberSun said: One what the hell was Kino doing? Why would they be an Overseer? That seems horribly out of character. When they said a new traveler had become an overseer. I kind of assumed it was Kino. And awaited a big twist for why they would do such a thing. But none came. And just as quickly as our wise beyond her years, dispassionate protagonist decided to become a slave overseer. She cast that aside and started pumping her previous employers full of rubber bullets. Kino is by no means a "good" person. At best she's neutral, which is partly what makes her so unique. She most likely agreed to become overseer due to the promise of better food and lodgings, which entirely makes sense for her character. Above anything else she's rational, so it seems fitting that she took the opportunity as it came. I don't know if you've read the LN's, but you'd know that this isn't the first time Kino's taken advantage of a situation like this. Also in regards to your comment about Kino's change of heart, her 'previous employers' had just announced that they'd changed the direction of the ship and neither of them would see land again, so it seems pretty natural that she would turn on them. |
| Loved to see Shizu take the lead for this episode, and Kino showing up later was a nice twist. That fight between them was short, but intense. Absolutely loved this episode, and I'm glad to see the creators are willing to shake up the format every now and then. But why did Ti stab Shizu?! I get she didn't want to go back, but stabbing someone might not be the best way to communicate that. The twists in this episode man... |
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| If I was Kino, I'd have shot her in the head right after she stabbed him. There is nothing capable of excusing Ti's stupidity. |
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| Well, that was different. We didn't follow Kino this time. Once again, Kino interfered... but only after the leaders went back on their deal and left them to die. |
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| I suppose the best thing I can say so far is that this reboot definitely makes me want to read the LN source material. And that's in no way a bad thing. We're definitely getting a different side of Kino and I'm looking forward to seeing how it all fits in. |
| And that is why they call this episode "Ship Country" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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| That ending was something...Ominous maybe? Kino saying "The next time we meet might surprise him to death." What did she mean by that? or is it nothing to read into? Still a decent episode overall though. |
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pillsburyXV said: ... honestly if you can make Ship Country underwhelming, then that pretty much seals the fact that this adaptation is just a big old pile of "meh". IMO Ship Country is one of the most "meh" stories in the novels. There were plenty of shorter chapters that have more impact. But YMMV. Fenryr19 said: If I was Kino, I'd have shot her in the head right after she stabbed him. There is nothing capable of excusing Ti's stupidity. Why? Should Kino be necessarily on Shizu's side? Should she shoot someone on the spot just because that person is acting "stupidly"? If it were Kino, she would only shoot if the girl proves to be a direct threat to her life, and she would choose to help only after she heard the circumstances and judged it to be worth the effort. Which is precisely what she did here -- she spared the girl's life because a) she learned of her circumstances, and b) Shizu asked her to. |
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SaneSavantElla said: pillsburyXV said: ... honestly if you can make Ship Country underwhelming, then that pretty much seals the fact that this adaptation is just a big old pile of "meh". IMO Ship Country is one of the most "meh" stories in the novels. There were plenty of shorter chapters that have more impact. But YMMV. Fenryr19 said: If I was Kino, I'd have shot her in the head right after she stabbed him. There is nothing capable of excusing Ti's stupidity. Why? Should Kino be necessarily on Shizu's side? Should she shoot someone on the spot just because that person is acting "stupidly"? If it were Kino, she would only shoot if the girl proves to be a direct threat to her life, and she would choose to help only after she heard the circumstances and judged it to be worth the effort. Which is precisely what she did here -- she spared the girl's life because a) she learned of her circumstances, and b) Shizu asked her to. I said what I would do if I were in her place, not what she should do according to her character. |
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| A returning character? In Kino's journey? Am I watching a wrong anime? xD Yep that's Kino ending for you, stubborn people.. they're already dead (omae wa mou shindeiru).. they just don't realized it xD Shizu is definitely more lovable than this Kino I miss the original adaptation Kino :( Is this how Kino behave in the novel? Ti is just confused and scared, poor girl I want to hug her :( |
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| Good boi Shizu, its good episode, focuses more to the charachter . Not bad at the story of the country |
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TheTsunami said: Eh, that doesn't seem to add up with what's going on with Japanese there, because at first Shizu called Kino Kino-kun, -kun being what you normally use addressing younger boys, then, after Riku told him, he very obviously switched to Kino-san, and -san is how you're to address girls you're not very close with irrespective of age (except for very young girls whom you can address with -chan). Kino couldn't have not noticed that switch and put 2 and 2 together.Kino is referring to the fact that if they meet in the future, her gender will be quite noticeable (Kino is unaware that Riku told Shizu about it). |
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BlackstarFallen said: The country in this episode was very interesting. It was nice to see Shizu and Riku learn about the ship and interact with the people. I knew it was Kino when Shizu heard a new traveler was on board. They fought together to take down the Tower Clan, but they already fled to another country and abandoned the one they were governing. The people are still going to stay on the ship. It's understandable I guess. Ti's past was sad to say the least. Shizu getting stabbed by her was random. They're going to be staying together though. How nice. u must rewatch it again cos u miss alot of stuff |
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| Lolis are psychos. Repeat this with me: lolis are psychos. ..Anyway, it seemed a bit rushed but was a nice episode either way. I kind of like the guy now even if he's a side character or whatever. |
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CG said: TheTsunami said: Eh, that doesn't seem to add up with what's going on with Japanese there, because at first Shizu called Kino Kino-kun, -kun being what you normally use addressing younger boys, then, after Riku told him, he very obviously switched to Kino-san, and -san is how you're to address girls you're not very close with irrespective of age (except for very young girls whom you can address with -chan). Kino couldn't have not noticed that switch and put 2 and 2 together.Kino is referring to the fact that if they meet in the future, her gender will be quite noticeable (Kino is unaware that Riku told Shizu about it). I'm aware of the change in honorifics after Riku whispered to Shizu, but you are making an assumption that Kino made that connection. The comment Kino made about Shizu being surprised in the future was gender based. |
TheTsunami said: What, you think Kino is stupid enough NOT to make that connection? I guess it's your right to take Kino for such a silly girl, but if I'm making an assumption, then you are making an assumption about that comment, too. Last time I checked, you're not the author of the novel or even on the staff for this anime to act like everything you say is the canon written in stone, oh sir High-and-Mighty.I'm aware of the change in honorifics after Riku whispered to Shizu, but you are making an assumption that Kino made that connection. The comment Kino made about Shizu being surprised in the future was gender based. |
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CG said: TheTsunami said: What, you think Kino is stupid enough NOT to make that connection? I guess it's your right to take Kino for such a silly girl, but if I'm making an assumption, then you are making an assumption about that comment, too. Last time I checked, you're not the author of the novel or even on the staff for this anime to act like everything you say is the canon written in stone, oh sir High-and-Mighty.I'm aware of the change in honorifics after Riku whispered to Shizu, but you are making an assumption that Kino made that connection. The comment Kino made about Shizu being surprised in the future was gender based. Scratch that, I'm not going to bother. |
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| I know this is Kino's story but I think I'd rather watch the series from Shizu and Riku's perspective. And I thought Shizu was a goner there at the end lol |
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| I'm glad Shizu is alive, but he better sleep with one eye open from now on because I'm sure Ti won't hesitate to stab him again if he does anything she doesn't like. |
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| IIRC, in the novel adaptation, this is the last scene (the boat country) when Shizu and Kino encounters. They're no longer meets to each other anymore afterwards, Hope the new anime adaptation will shows more their interactions. loved when they team up together. |
HenshinDrift said: nazsa said: I'm not 100% sure, but I think by then kino will be too old to hide her true gender. If anyone has a different answer, let me know. Nope. Actually Shizu already knew Kino is a girl from episode 2. It indicating, they might see each other again in the future but not in the near future instead they would encounters again after many years later. Yes, Shizu knew Kino gender was a female but on his (Shizu) perspective, his point of view, for at the moment he regards Kino as a decent boy. So when Hermes quoted that word whereas Shizu might be surprised is because after many years later, Kino's body and her appearance also did changed and naturally Shizu would be surprised from what he have imagined of her before. side note: from the novel, this arc (the boat country) was the last of their encounters. and i also think, that man Hermes referred to is not actually shizu but "the glasses guy". the man who saves Kino's life back then and the owner of Hermes. |
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| A bit sad episode! but at least Kino prevented Ti to go suicide with that grenade and Shizu adopted her. The first part of the episode I thought Kino did a time leap...lolz! 4/5 |
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| I read the original story way back when, and, well, this seemed really rushed since they were trying to fit it in one episode (in the novel, Ship Country is a pretty long story compared to the others). There have been parts in the anime so far where I've just really thought that the music either stood out too much or has distracted from how bizarre the people talk in the countries, I'm not saying that the music is wholly bad but the context it's been used in has been really detrimental to the overall atmosphere of the series. Case in point: when Shizu talks to the Tower people and they say that "the people are fine." Less music would've been more. Anyone else feel the same way? We've been introduced to 2 of the 3 travelling duos/trio that appear in the novels: Kino & Hermes - travelling because they don't want to settle, and Shizu, Riku and Ti - travelling because they want to find a place to settle in. The 3rd duo is yet to be introduced, it's just a matter of when. |
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Stark700 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Shizu is such a badass, glad to see that he's getting more screen time this episode. Loved the world building this episode with the ship's country and sea trade involved. Shizu's an underrated character this season and his actions were noticable for helping that kid. Kino's role this episode was noticable too and glad to see her make a difference. Well, y'know what they say, every badass needs a loli |
| Ti is mentally ill. why would the people abandon her anyway? no 1 person who cares, seriously? then i'm glad they all gonna sink, too bad Ti the psycho is now out to stab more good-willed people tho. |
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| Shizu is the best character. The whole stabbing/grenade scene was ridiculous though. Also, how did that grenade not go off? |
| I understand the stabbing I think. Some ex's are like that too... |
| Episode was pretty alright. Though I didn't exactly understand why the kid stabbed the prince. |
| I didn't comment on this episode, so before I move on to this week's, I'll just say that I didn't like this one. It may be a petty reason but I am so attached to viewing the world of Kino no tabi through Kino that the very idea of having a Shizu-centric episode was a huge letdown for starters. I tried to get used to this new situation but it only worked in part. Maybe my biggest issue with Shizu's viewpoint is that it is just... not interesting to me. I can understand the idea of establishing a contrast between these two characters, and how while Kino is fit for travelling and roaming around because she will never let herself grow a strong attachment to any place she visits, Shizu is destined to find his place. The problem is that we have many Shizus in fiction. And part of the appeal of this series is that it subverts the idea of a main character being a hero, establishing long-term relationships and having a goal. Kino no tabi is transience and observation, and it is that what makes it distinct. So what is the point of having an episode devoted to him? As a result this episode felt super-ordinary and uninteresting to me. I like the idea that Shizu exists and I like the idea of this contrast but I don't like that in order to show it the series needs to get rid of its own spirit for a while. Oh, and Kino actually kind of annoyed me in this episode. When she appeared again and took another proactive role, third time in a row... calm down, damn. We've had enough gunfight for the entire season. The story didn't grab me and I just didn't see the appeal to the episode so I'm afraid I'm leaving it at 2/5 and hope the series never goes this low again. |
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