| I'd debate you but I see that you haven't read the manga and have pretty shit taste in general so I think I'll pass. |
Seiya said: That video further proves my point. It looks like garbage, dark seinen garbage. I don't have to read/watch it to know that it's not for me. You said you don't understand the hype, so I figured the video could explain why other people who are not biased towards "dark" manga likes it and why it's the highest rated on MAL... but I guess I was wrong... |
| I guess you didn't like it because there weren't any kawaii girls in it. And I also suppose you didn't understand the feelings of Guts, Griffith and the band. |
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Seiya said: Next thing, you're going to tell me that I should watch "Game of Thrones," and I wouldn't touch that with a 10-foot pole either. No, you keep missing the point and I'm wondering if you even watched the video. To you I would obviously recommend Teletubbies or something similar. |
| As always taste is subjective when it comes to these kinds of things. I love Berserk and prefer it over the vast majority of manga series. I'm also a big fan for various types of the Fantasy genre. What I'm not a fan of is the countless Isekai garbage that seems to churned out on a monthly basis. It's rare these days that we get a straight up fantasy series that doesn't involve a pathetic Japanese teen getting hit by a truck and get reincarnated into a fantasy world where he proceeds to be the best at everything and randomly has a bunch of girls on his dick from princesses to goddesses. Those settings are pathetic wish fulfillment and nothing more. But that's just my opinion. |
Kruszer said: Any Hype is for the manga since most people generally complain about the anime series instead, especially the newer ones. It's a solid 7 or 8 if you ask me for being an entertaining fantasy/action hack n' slash, not really masterpiece material. I especially don't see how people can maintain interest in the manga with such a flaky author who won't ever work on it all that often,I get enough of that with Black Lagoon and Dogs: Bullets and Carnage, but I don't read Beserk either. Same reason anyone would read Black Lagoon, it's worth it in the end. No one who watched the original Berserk for the action is very much going to like the manga series. I don't know, I kinda fell in love with Rickert, Judeau, Pippin and Corkus. For how absolutely horrible and hopeless every single thing and character in the series is, it's kinda uplifting in a way. Strive and struggle against hardships! edit: Of course, fans too often focus on the gorier, disgusting aspects, Miura included. Although, admittedly, the eclipse is visually impressive (in the manga). |
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| Berserk is one of the goriest and darkest anime out there It embraces the fact that it relies on gore and the action scenes and doesn't shy away from it It's simply a classic Berserk is hyped up cause it is adapting a masterpiece |
| "Because people don't have wings.. We look for ways to fly." |
| The heart of the series lies in the Golden Arc. It wasn't meant to be a psychoanalysis of medieval mercenaries or depict radical character transitions. It took a few applicable themes - fellowship, ambition, the quest for individual purpose - and integrated them with good visuals/music/dialogue, the sum of which made for a very compelling tone. And incidentally, it's one of the few shows that threaded romance into an action series successfully imo. I more or less forced myself through 2016/17, but once it turned into a one-man slasher vs. legions of demons, spirits, apostles, etc. it was lost on me. |
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| Berserk has a big cast of mixed characters, the main cast shows a lot of personality and depth overall, definitely in comparison to other anime. It doesn't stand out in the world of fantasy literature, obviously, but as for manga, it does. If you can't see the development in the characters, you should probably try looking back and thinking about how they were first. The manga itself does a great job at looking back to the past inexplicitly, by redrawing old frames in the new scenario, showing us the difference in both art and the aura the characters radiate. Well, that's for the modern chapters, but even throughout the golden age arc, the characters show development. Not all characters are complex as Guts, Griffith and Farneze obviously, but that would be unnecessary either way. The hype basically comes from that and Miura's art. The story has some unique elements, but those should be obvious enough. If you don't like it, you don't like it. Stories will always rely on your interest however, and if you're not interested it's gonna fall flat. That's how that goes. |
| > All that the anime relies on is the gore and the twisted ending and people are so amazed that someone ends an anime on a bad note that it's suddenly somehow an amazing anime ? hey sounds like re:zero huehuehue |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
| I don't know whether you can't read whatever people say on the internet and stuff... But the actual hyped thing about Berserk is the manga. Everyone can agree that the 2016 and 2017 anime are garbage adaptations. and the 1997 anime and the movies are just ok. Nonetheless, despite all the hype Berserk gets, there are other manga with better characters and story. |
xDaril said: Everyone can agree that the 2016 and 2017 anime are garbage adaptations. and the 1997 anime and the movies are just ok. Most people think the 1997 anime is a lot better than okay. So no, we can't agree on that. |
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| some people ITT: wtf someone doesn't love berserk, the greatest series ever made? this is outrageous! *starts complaining about the user's profile pic / favorites instead of actually giving a coherent response as to why berserk is great in their view* MAL once again proves to be toxic. (this doesn't apply to all comments here) |
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deadprez said: xDaril said: Everyone can agree that the 2016 and 2017 anime are garbage adaptations. and the 1997 anime and the movies are just ok. Most people think the 1997 anime is a lot better than okay. So no, we can't agree on that. The 1997 anime adapts it pretty well... but, It's not finished so eh. It's good but it doesn't really adapt that much. Nice profile pic tho, Feng Shen Ji is awesome. |
DreamingBeats said: some people ITT: wtf someone doesn't love berserk, the greatest series ever made? this is outrageous! *starts complaining about the user's profile pic / favorites instead of actually giving a coherent response as to why berserk is great in their view* MAL once again proves to be toxic. (this doesn't apply to all comments here) I did debate OP and pretty much crushed his arguments quickly and he has not made a post here since. It was clear that his intention with his post was never to debate or hear the thoughts and opinions of others though. This post summed it up well: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1666796&show=0#msg52389820 |
| READ THE MANGA. GREATNESS. |
| First of all: I haven't watched the Anime yet or have read the Manga so I don't know anything. I've only read few chapters of the Manga. Most of the time the fans are talking about the Manga and not the Manga so the Manga seems to be way better. I don't know why but it's really hard to me to read Berserk. Not because it's old or anything like this. I think it's just not my thing. Maybe it's too gory for me but I will read it someday again. |
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| Did you not see the Big Sword (it's really BIG). Or that extended NTR rape scene? There lies your answer. |
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Zapredon said: I read Berserk manga first before the anime. Berserk is great in Golden Age Arc but after Golden Age arc, it went downhill. We got too many uninteresting side villains like troll, Kushan etc. The tone really change after the flashback. Yeah the GA arc is by far the best part of the manga, everything else pales in comparison. Conviction was still good though, I think the tone only really changes once Guts gets his new group |
MechaKnightDarek said: I am still a fan, kind of, just everything after the golden age is kinda eh. Also not answering the OP lmao, he isn't here to debate clearly. If Miura somehow maintained the GA quality, Berserk would be the best manga ever |
| The manga is very highly rated everyone else hates the anime |
| I didn't care for majority of the characters. I was only mildly interested in the main trio. The rest of them are nobodies to me. Since I don't care about the characters, I don't give a shit as to what happens to them. Guess the manga failed in that regard. Anyway, the story ain't that good. World building is nothing special. Fights are just cutting up fodder and monsters most of the time. Boring! The art is nice and all but nothing special. 7/10 is maximum I could muster for this overrated manga. Edit: The villains i.e Godhand are horrible and one-dimensional monsters except for Zodd and Griffith. The Skull Knight is overflowing in plot convenience juice. |
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Trashmans said: Alpha_Druid said: I didn't care for majority of the characters. I was only mildly interested in the main trio. The rest of them are nobodies to me. Since I don't care about the characters, I don't give a shit as to what happens to them. Guess the manga failed in that regard. Anyway, the story ain't that good. World building is nothing special. Fights are just cutting up fodder and monsters most of the time. Boring! The art is nice and all but nothing special. 7/10 is maximum I could muster for this overrated manga. Edit: The villains i.e Godhand are horrible and one-dimensional monsters except for Zodd and Griffith. The Skull Knight is overflowing in plot convenience juice. Which characters are the main trio to you? Skullknights connection to Void and Flora don't scream plot convenience at all. They're hinted to have been extremely important, but they're never completely explained. Griffith is definitely way deeper in comparision, but that's the point of a main character. To me many side characters are interesting, Rickert is important as an example. To me it seems ironic that you find Griffith intresting but not worldbuilding, which is indirectely a big part of his motive. I think Berserk does some of the best world building there is, but that's subjective and maybe I've just not experienced what's better out there. What's your favorite examples of good world building? By main trio I meant Guts, Casca and Griffith. I forgot about Puck lol. What Griffith wants has nothing to do with the author's(R.I.P) ability to build a world. One Piece has one of the best world building imo. |
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| Not one of the greatest anime, but one of the greatest manga. |
| Nah fam people were hyping up the Manga and not the Anime. Seiya said: I don't understand the hype of Berserk either. Now, I've never read the Manga, and I've never watched any of the Berserk Anime, but I know that I would hate it, because I hate Anime/Manga with extreme violence and sex in it. "Doesn't understand the hype" "Never read the Manga" What a smart guy,maybe try reading the Manga so you can understand the hype? |
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Seiya said: Scordolo said: Nah fam people were hyping up the Manga and not the Anime. "Doesn't understand the hype" "Never read the Manga" What a smart guy,maybe try reading the Manga so you can understand the hype? Um, no. I hate stuff with excessive violence and sex in it, so I know I'd hate Berserk, even without reading it. I'll never understand why people like to watch/read stuff with sex and extreme violence. You hate stuff with excessive sex and violence Devilman fan? Do you think the excessive sex and violence is the only reason Berserk is rated highly or is it rated highly despite that? |
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MoonStar9 said: Seiya said: Um, no. I hate stuff with excessive violence and sex in it, so I know I'd hate Berserk, even without reading it. I'll never understand why people like to watch/read stuff with sex and extreme violence. You hate stuff with excessive sex and violence Devilman fan? Do you think the excessive sex and violence is the only reason Berserk is rated highly or is it rated highly despite that? I know Berserk HELPED so many people out there with there lives.It's really triggering me how he's saying it's just known for violence and sex.It is known for having deep psychological quotes and a great story.I can even say this without reading it because I heard from other people.Those who say it's just sex and violence clearly just wants to hate the series. |
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| @Seiya lol speak for yourself. |
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Seiya said: MoonStar9 said: You hate stuff with excessive sex and violence Devilman fan? Do you think the excessive sex and violence is the only reason Berserk is rated highly or is it rated highly despite that? I've never watched Devilman. A friend made that club signature for me. Almost everything rated high on this site is "seinen adult shit" with disturbing imagery. I'm not into that stuff. @Scordolo: Lol, Berserk never "helped" anyone with their lives. This conversation is over. Look, I'm the first person to criticise gratuitous sex and violence for the sake of it. I don't like that shit either and I drop manga all the time because of it. But it's just not true that purely disturbing anime/manga is rated highly on this website or even anywhere in general. I looked over the top fifty and less than 10 were adult-targeted, and even less had any gratuitous violence or sex in general. Most people agree with you. Most people don't like gratuitous sex and violence in their content. If you're not into disturbing content that's your prerogative and nobody should attack you for it, but to reduce Berserk to just that is such an insult. The writing is genuinely some of the best I have ever experienced. The characters are so well-established that they stay with you for years. The art and designs are spectacular. The series is iconic for the number of elements it introduced or popularised in fiction. Yes, you'd probably hate Berserk, it has a lot of disturbing things but that is not the reason it is popular. Do not think of Berserk in the same light as something like Dead Tube or Redo of Healer which is simply there to shock and entice people who want to see something sick. |
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Seiya said: @Scordolo: Lol, Berserk never "helped" anyone with their lives. This conversation is over. Objectively wrong there. Berserk has helped people cope with deaths of loved ones, with suicidal thoughts and much more. Casca has been a source of inspiration for many women of color. But you seem like the kind of person who's already made your mind up there. |
Seiya said: How does seeing people getting violently raped and killed help people? That doesn't make any sense. Anyway, you're beating a dead horse by talking to me. This all started by someone quoting a post that I made 4 years ago, lol. Berserk is more than one singular panel that you chose to pick for your brutally infantile straw man argument. Yeah, you are here to troll. I should have seen that before I quoted you. I’ll put you on my ignore list from now on, so I don’t bother quoting you in the future. |
| This is old as fuck but I MUST STILL SAY: DID U REALLY WATCH THE SHOW?! You may not like it and it's fine, but there's PLENTY of character progression. |
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Swagernator said: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=edgy Also what is this ? that someone with Re: Zero in favorites is questioning Berserk quality ? What a joke. Why would having a quality anime in their favourites be a joke? You literally have the El-Melloi anime in your favourites, making you the bigger joke here. |
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RioFS said: Why would having a quality anime in their favourites be a joke? How should i know ? Ask the guy from five years ago. |
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| The anime isn't the one highly praised you twit it's the manga. |
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