WorldEnd: What Do You Do at the End of the World? Are You Busy? Will You Save Us?
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Jun 28, 2017 9:39 AM
#201
Everybody here said that they're dead but they're shown as alive on the last scene. The potraits were there because they're 'assumed' to be dead, it's not clear whether they're dead or alive as shown by the water ripple divination. Remember that this is anime story, not the LN story. Is there no potrait for Wilem? mission1 said: Until episode 12, I had greatly enjoyed this anime. But, seriously, how it ended. Nothing about the world had changed, or fates and treatment of the girls. What methods that were used to improve the girls fighting ability died with Willem and Chtholly. Both main characters died without saving the person they sacrificed their lives for. Chtholly lost here memories and feels for nothing in the end. Furthermore, very little morning was done. Their was some talk and tears for Chtholly, but no one seemed sad that Willem was gone. The sage was the only one who mentioned him, not even the troll lady seemed sad about it. After enjoying and loving the characters in the other episodes. The way things went made this one of the saddest, unsatisfying, and most depressing anime endings I have ever seen. Other animes with endings like this are usually sad or depressing all the way through, but this is did not see coming. I still have a hard time excepting that this was the last episode and that there is no comeback. This ending ruined the anime for me. Agreed.. I don't know why but I don't feel sad at all.. Though I've seen it coming from first episode. I knew that she will jump from the ship to save someone. The weird thing is she got impaled, survived from the nuke, and stand in front of the Wilem like it's nothing. In Your Lie in April anime, I can already see the ending but I got sad watching it, maybe this anime's confusing and ridiculous ending made this not 'sad' for me. Nygglatho cut her hair to signify her sadness and you can see Ithea crying. The other kids are still fairy so they still don't understand the significance of 'death', as shown when a kid got badly hurt in earlier episode. Probably Grick is sad too but not shown. |
LeonLanfordJun 28, 2017 9:48 AM
Jun 28, 2017 9:57 AM
#202
I really enjoyed this anime overall. The ending was very sad :( I hope we get a second season. The LN of SukaSuka has a sequel called Shuumatsu Nani Shitemasu ka? Mou Ichido dake, Aemasu ka? (aka SukaMoka). Tiat, Collon, and Pannibal are the MCs, so the second season would be about the sequel LN. However, SukaMoka LN just recently started to be published back in April of 2016, so until it's finished we probably won't see an anime adaptation of it anytime soon. https://myanimelist.net/manga/97643/Shuumatsu_Nani_Shitemasu_ka_Mou_Ichido_dake_Aemasu_ka However, there is a side story called Shuumatsu Nani Shitemasu ka? Isogashii desu ka? Sukutte Moratte Ii desu ka? Ex, which is just 1 volume (6 chapters) long. So we could very well get an OVA at time point, before the sequel. https://myanimelist.net/manga/103722/Shuumatsu_Nani_Shitemasu_ka_Isogashii_desu_ka_Sukutte_Moratte_Ii_desu_ka_Ex |
Jun 28, 2017 10:09 AM
#203
Jun 28, 2017 11:44 AM
#205
....so after I searching for the illustration of suka Moka vol 4, I accidentally found the Chinese translation of the novel and it full so I take a peek at the end by using google translation and some other translating site cause it not entirely clear at some sentences and after that, I connect the dot together (word to word) and omfg, to all the people who think the anime ending is sad and f-up, wait until you read the ending of suka suka ln, it will make you fall into depression and rage quit at the author for how sadistic and heartless he is: to put it simple because I kinda afraid of the ban, before I go deep, yes the one who gotta suffer again is willem but this time he willingly do that by pull out another Lelouch's dead by make himself the enemy of the whole island and sacrifice himself to protect the fairy warehouse |
Jun 28, 2017 11:53 AM
#206
Is definitely one of the best episodes (not the best 'cause every fucking episode is fucking emotional so the best episode is actually a lot of them :D)! Now, two questions... 1. Did Nephren and Chtholly died? O.O 2. And if Chtholly died, is this her??? Was she reborn or something??? If it is, where is Nephren??? Overall: 8/10 |
azertz99Jun 30, 2017 12:21 PM
Jun 28, 2017 11:55 AM
#207
I actually almost lost it when, after Chtholly saved Willem and Nephren, the "Scarborough Fair" song started playing and she was fighting/killing the Beasts...and other stuff. :'( Of course, it was a sad show right from the start, but I believe it only got sadder during the latter half of it. All in all, I hope there will be a second season, like the ending of the episode seemed to be hinting at...but that's only wishful thinking at this moment in time, so. P.S. I quite enjoyed the show, even if it was sad and had a lot of heartbreaking moments, et cetera. Overall Score: 8/10 (it used to be a 7/10, but...) |
Jun 28, 2017 12:01 PM
#208
I whole-fully agree with all the changes they made from the novel to the anime in the last few episodes. There was a few weird/awkward choice earlier, but that finale was just impressive. I can completely forgive the previous choice considering what they did here, they nailed it and the anime version is really able to stand by itself. One of the novel adaptation that understood the best what it should do when going from a text medium to a visual medium while having only the first 3 books to adapt. It's pretty much baccano-level of adaptation, while having a better source material so an even better result. Really nice anime series we got there. |
Jun 28, 2017 12:03 PM
#209
I loved this series, one of my favorites from this series. Does anyone know where I could find the novels? And what's this thing about a SukaMoka? Is it a sequel? Or another series related to this? |
Jun 28, 2017 12:07 PM
#210
Wow what an ending. Like I had been preparing myself for it since ep 1 but it still exceeded my expectations. To think Nephren would die/ go MIA too tho.. Didn't expect. It was painful to watch everyone struggle. Rest in peace. Willem and Ctholly's love was beautiful and Nephren watching over the two of them was beautiful, too. Raised my score to 8.5/10. |
TragicRomanceJun 28, 2017 12:18 PM
Jun 28, 2017 12:49 PM
#211
To answer some common questions here without any spoilers. The scene at the end was a flashback to Ctholly's appearance in the world, this was a scene in Volume 3 of the SukaSuka novel and not reincarnation. SukaMoka is a sequel, but the anime only adapted 3 out of 5 volumes from SukaSuka, those last two volumes are pretty large (though I am unsure how many episodes they could squeeze out of them in a sequel). This isn't a perfect ending because its just the end of a volume in the middle of the story. They did leave it ambiguous to potentially mean an eventual second season, but I can think of a better ending scene they could have left on if they were certain a second season would come. |
Jun 28, 2017 12:49 PM
#212
Well it didn’t end the way I predicted it would end. Chtholly or Willem dying was the obvious prediction. I was trying to make the not-so-obvious prediction that: Willem would be forced to kill Chtholly or vice versa. But anyway, I liked how they ended it here. The author did a good job. High tension, good emotional impact, clean art, and an excellent soundtrack. Scarborough Fair is going to be a song that I will remember for a while, along with the other songs in the series. The story was good, but it is inconclusive as there is more to the story that they can adapt. Nevertheless, I am very satisfied with the ambiguous ending and how they treated the characters. Seeing and perceiving the world they live in through their eyes was the main focus of this anime, and that is what made it so enjoyable to watch for me. Here’s hoping that we get a sequel somehow, some way… Regardless if you liked or disliked this anime, here's one final message that you should take to heart: |
Jun 28, 2017 1:11 PM
#213
I can't believe that it ended like that, What a sad finale, I don't cry often with anime but damn I just couldn't handle it. 9/10 and AOTS for me.- |
Jun 28, 2017 1:56 PM
#214
Pretty intense ending if you ask me! Quite liked it. But I must say that I totally expected a different kind of anime when I first read the synopsis and watching the first episode. In the end the pacing was still a tad bit too slow for me to actually enjoy, but the character development wasn't all too bad though. So all in all a nice watch! |
Jun 28, 2017 4:50 PM
#215
I dont think either are dead. I think they are missing assumed dead. Remember the scene with the ancient wizard, he went to talk to some people and the radar popped up as he left. Not only that, they all jumped out of the airship, so anyone would think they died. I think season 2 is very possible with this ending. I also thought it meant she was reborn, but i think it's a flashback. My theory is some sort of divine intervention, or cohabitation between the goddess and chtholly. |
Jun 28, 2017 4:57 PM
#216
Jun 28, 2017 6:07 PM
#217
This episode left a tear in my eye... especially when Chtolly took that sword and started walking to the end of the ship. And the OST didn't help either... :( Still it was a 10/10 moment. I really enjoyed this anime but it was slightly disappointing for me the fact that they didn't explain a lot of things. I still don't get why that girl with red hair wanted Chtolly, she was dead right? So why she wanted Chtolly? And why Chtolly didn't try to escape... Many things i understood thanks to people commenting here and explaining a lot of things. At least those 2 girls survived... That ending was so painful to watch!! R.I.P :( I doubt that there will be a 2nd season but some OVA's to finish the story would be nice. I will definitely miss everyone, the little girls were always so funny and happy :) <3 8-9/10 |
Jun 28, 2017 7:19 PM
#218
Very rare to see a MC so cool as Willem. Sad end but the anime is worth watch. The only thing i dont like is the monsters design. |
Jun 28, 2017 7:41 PM
#219
Lots of potential that ultimately failed to manifest due to clunky pacing and writing. Some good tracks, some good moments, and still enjoyable, that this is one of my favorites of the season is more a testament to the quality of the season than the quality of this show. Recommend reading the LNs. |
Jun 28, 2017 7:47 PM
#220
He returns to be human after transforming into a beast? |
Jun 28, 2017 7:58 PM
#221
For those who already read the novel, what happened to ren, chtolly, and willem??? And what happened to willem in sukamoka, and is the MCs changed at suka moka??? |
Jun 28, 2017 8:50 PM
#222
I wanted to enjoy this so much, and I did to an extent, but I couldn't shake the feeling of dread I've had since episode... one... Not only did it make this hard to watch, it ruined some of the joy I should have had during the happier moments of this anime. It was all to easy to tell what kind of ending this was going for... Still hit like Truck-kun though, and still really enjoyed this anime anyway... And this was an absolutely fantastic finale for this anime. That ost was beautiful, that battle was epic, and this ending was sad. Now someone please give me an explanation to that ending so I can leave truly satisfied, I'm assuming they lived because of the ripples. |
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Jun 28, 2017 9:06 PM
#223
Lisan_Blood said: For those who already read the novel, what happened to ren, chtolly, and willem??? And what happened to willem in sukamoka, and is the MCs changed at suka moka??? Yes, they have a new MC there. |
Jun 28, 2017 9:11 PM
#224
dodgemoto_23 said: Lisan_Blood said: For those who already read the novel, what happened to ren, chtolly, and willem??? And what happened to willem in sukamoka, and is the MCs changed at suka moka??? Yes, they have a new MC there. What abour willem??? Some novel reader said he turned into a beast. Did the new MC killed him when he's the beast? |
Jun 28, 2017 9:12 PM
#225
one of the best end.. in my opinion... hope for 2nd season.. |
Jun 28, 2017 9:55 PM
#226
The song for the one who has fallen in battle. Damn it, I can't contain all these feelings. T_T |
Jun 28, 2017 11:20 PM
#227
Wait, Nephren died too? Wtf what's the point of Ctholly waiving her hands on Nephren to somehow stop her from exploding? Or the three are all alive somehow? Smh this is code geass all over again 6/10 |
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Jun 28, 2017 11:32 PM
#228
In the anime it ended at ep 12 , So what chapter should i start at the manga?I only want the manga not the LN. |
Jun 29, 2017 12:00 AM
#229
seconds_to_dere said: Wait, Nephren died too? Wtf what's the point of Ctholly waiving her hands on Nephren to somehow stop her from exploding? Or the three are all alive somehow? Smh this is code geass all over again 6/10 I don't know. But is this means anything? |
TyrelJul 2, 2017 11:43 PM
Jun 29, 2017 12:36 AM
#230
Lisan_Blood said: dodgemoto_23 said: Lisan_Blood said: For those who already read the novel, what happened to ren, chtolly, and willem??? And what happened to willem in sukamoka, and is the MCs changed at suka moka??? Yes, they have a new MC there. What abour willem??? Some novel reader said he turned into a beast. Did the new MC killed him when he's the beast? No, the MC of Sukamoka didn't appear in Sukasuka. And Willem did "die" after the events of Sukasuka. |
Jun 29, 2017 12:56 AM
#231
azertyY said: Now, two questions... 1. Did Nephren and Chtholly died? O.O 2. And if Chtholly died, is this her??? Was she reborn or something??? If it is, where is Nephren??? Answers: 1. Both are presumed dead. We know for sure that Chtholly is dead but Willem and Nephren might be alive Screenshot by @Octave_. 2. Yes, that's Chtholly. It's a flashback to when she was born. |
Jun 29, 2017 2:10 AM
#232
When I saw the first episode of this I thought to myself, this is probably going to be my favorite anime of the season....and I was right. God this one got me good....as soon as they started to play Scarborough Fair....I lost it. I'm so sad now..... might have to read the novel.... 10/10 |
Jun 29, 2017 2:22 AM
#233
azertyY said: Is definitely one of the best episodes (not the best 'cause every fucking episode is fucking emotional so the best episode is actually a lot of them :D)! Now, two questions... 1. Did Nephren and Chtholly died? O.O 2. And if Chtholly died, is this her??? Was she reborn or something??? If it is, where is Nephren??? Overall: 8/10 1. Ctholly is dead, but not Nephren & Willem, they just went MIA but since they're never found, they considered dead 2. yes, that was Cthlooy but It's just a flashback from the moment when she's born |
Jun 29, 2017 2:32 AM
#234
Please leave me a link so I can buy the Light Novel. I`ve searched and I can not find it anywhere. So please someone help me. |
Jun 29, 2017 2:40 AM
#235
So glad I watched this from the beginning even though I kinda knew what was gonna happen in the end. I loved this anime so much the love between the two was so real. He even wanted to marry her GOD ITS SO SAD but this will now and forever be one of my favorite anime's of all time and i'll never forget it either. 10/10 |
Jun 29, 2017 3:34 AM
#236
dodgemoto_23 said: Lisan_Blood said: dodgemoto_23 said: Lisan_Blood said: For those who already read the novel, what happened to ren, chtolly, and willem??? And what happened to willem in sukamoka, and is the MCs changed at suka moka??? Yes, they have a new MC there. What abour willem??? Some novel reader said he turned into a beast. Did the new MC killed him when he's the beast? No, the MC of Sukamoka didn't appear in Sukasuka. And Willem did "die" after the events of Sukasuka. Ow ;-;........ That's kinda sad...... How did he died?? And does sukamoka continue after sukasuka or not? (btw sorry for too much question ;) ) |
Lisan_BloodJun 29, 2017 3:37 AM
Jun 29, 2017 3:56 AM
#237
Jun 29, 2017 4:38 AM
#238
Lisan_Blood said: dodgemoto_23 said: Lisan_Blood said: dodgemoto_23 said: Lisan_Blood said: For those who already read the novel, what happened to ren, chtolly, and willem??? And what happened to willem in sukamoka, and is the MCs changed at suka moka??? Yes, they have a new MC there. What abour willem??? Some novel reader said he turned into a beast. Did the new MC killed him when he's the beast? No, the MC of Sukamoka didn't appear in Sukasuka. And Willem did "die" after the events of Sukasuka. Ow ;-;........ That's kinda sad...... How did he died?? And does sukamoka continue after sukasuka or not? (btw sorry for too much question ;) ) Please, you guy really don't want to know how the novel end, when I go searching for the suka moka illustrations, I accidentally found the Chinese translation and it full so I take a peek and omfg, you can't believe how angry and sad I am to that sadistic author for making that ending, yes, the one who suffer again is willem but at least he willingly do that by pull out another lelouch's death by making himself the enemy of the island and sacrifice his life to protect the fairy warehouse, if you guy want more detail then scroll down but this is a heavily spoiler: So basically an organization on the island brought the beast to the island 11 but they got released and the beast attacking the army hq, the fairy come to save the day but realize most of the beast was being handle by the army new weapon/mech and these mechs are far more superior to the fairy (it was previously revealed that the army intend to destroy the fairy warehouse along with all the fairy because they have now finish develop a stronger weapon to fight the beast and the fairy existence are useless now but even though the fairy don't have to fight anymore, most of the people in the army Agree on killing all the fairy because they afraid to live next to a walking bomb) but coincidentally, willem also there, witnessing the battle (currently, his memories was sealed) but after seeing a blue hair fairy attempting to open the fairy gate when she got caught by the beast, he start to remember ctholly and all his previous memories that was sealed (this blue hair fairy here was lantoq/rhantoq and not ctholly cause she is dead) after regain his memory, he start to execute his plan to save all the fairy by turning letting the beast engulfed him and into a beast intentionally (the reason why his memory was seal is because so that the beast inside him won't take over his body). And he then destroys all the mech and no mech could kill him (because the first beast Shiator is also immortal like a visitor aka god but not the strongest) and after that, he challenges the fairy to a fight and he let them win by allow lakish (yellow hair girl) to use the seniorious to stab him in the heart thus "killing" him (the reason why this sword was so strong is because it has a special curse that no other have, turn anything into a corse and thus able to even kill the immortal being like visitor and first beast) while every soldier in the army watching and proving to all the big guy in the army that there are some beast far stronger than their mech and the only mean to kill them are the fairies and thus, forcing them to keep the fairies alive and the warehouse active but willem.........well he is "dead" now but at least his "dead" was not in vain cause he finally accomplished what he alway regrets: unable to protect what he love. And thus the story/prologue about willem is end and now we are move on to the main story focus on the 4 girls. This is some thing extra, 1) the last scene of the anime was from vol 3 chapter 5 (I think) and is was a scene about ctholly past when she was born and her 2 previous elder sister that she look up to before a few year later they sacrificed themselves too. 2) ctholly was reborn in suka Moka and her new name is Riel (that what the google translate into, not really if it correct) but (I will copy elq quote) "CTHOLLY IS RIEL BUT RIEL IS NOT CTHOLLY" to put it simple just because she look like ctholly doesn't mean she is ctholly cause all ctholly memory, her personality,.... what make ctholly ctholly is now gone from Riel and Riel is a new existence with her own personality so yeah, it is safe to say ctholly is dead and I doubt willem will end up with Riel cause Riel was like 4-5 yrs so he probably end up with the troll lady (also, Elq is not ctholly, just because she has ctholly memory by always watching her doesn't make her ctholly like for example, if I watch a movie about willem, I would know everything about him but just because I know all doesn't make me willem) |
Jun 29, 2017 4:50 AM
#239
Essay_kun said: Lisan_Blood said: dodgemoto_23 said: Lisan_Blood said: dodgemoto_23 said: Lisan_Blood said: For those who already read the novel, what happened to ren, chtolly, and willem??? And what happened to willem in sukamoka, and is the MCs changed at suka moka??? Yes, they have a new MC there. What abour willem??? Some novel reader said he turned into a beast. Did the new MC killed him when he's the beast? No, the MC of Sukamoka didn't appear in Sukasuka. And Willem did "die" after the events of Sukasuka. Ow ;-;........ That's kinda sad...... How did he died?? And does sukamoka continue after sukasuka or not? (btw sorry for too much question ;) ) Please, you guy really don't want to know how the novel end, when I go searching for the suka moka illustrations, I accidentally found the Chinese translation and it full so I take a peek and omfg, you can't believe how angry and sad I am to that sadistic author for making that ending, yes, the one who suffer again is willem but at least he willingly do that by pull out another lelouch's death by making himself the enemy of the island and sacrifice his life to protect the fairy warehouse, if you guy want more detail then scroll down but this is a heavily spoiler: So basically an organization on the island brought the beast to the island 11 but they got released and the beast attacking the army hq, the fairy come to save the day but realize most of the beast was being handle by the army new weapon/mech and these mechs are far more superior to the fairy (it was previously revealed that the army intend to destroy the fairy warehouse along with all the fairy because they have now finish develop a stronger weapon to fight the beast and the fairy existence are useless now but even though the fairy don't have to fight anymore, most of the people in the army Agree on killing all the fairy because they afraid to live next to a walking bomb) but coincidentally, willem also there, witnessing the battle (currently, his memories was sealed) but after seeing a blue hair fairy attempting to open the fairy gate when she got caught by the beast, he start to remember ctholly and all his previous memories that was sealed (this blue hair fairy here was lantoq/rhantoq and not ctholly cause she is dead) after regain his memory, he start to execute his plan to save all the fairy by turning letting the beast engulfed him and into a beast intentionally (the reason why his memory was seal is because so that the beast inside him won't take over his body). And he then destroys all the mech and no mech could kill him (because the first beast Shiator is also immortal like a visitor aka god but not the strongest) and after that, he challenges the fairy to a fight and he let them win by allow lakish (yellow hair girl) to use the seniorious to stab him in the heart thus "killing" him (the reason why this sword was so strong is because it has a special curse that no other have, turn anything into a corse and thus able to even kill the immortal being like visitor and first beast) while every soldier in the army watching and proving to all the big guy in the army that there are some beast far stronger than their mech and the only mean to kill them are the fairies and thus, forcing them to keep the fairies alive and the warehouse active but willem.........well he is "dead" now but at least his "dead" was not in vain cause he finally accomplished what he alway regrets: unable to protect what he love. And thus the story/prologue about willem is end and now we are move on to the main story focus on the 4 girls. This is some thing extra, 1) the last scene of the anime was from vol 3 chapter 5 (I think) and is was a scene about ctholly past when she was born and her 2 previous elder sister that she look up to before a few year later they sacrificed themselves too. 2) ctholly was reborn in suka Moka and her new name is Riel (that what the google translate into, not really if it correct) but (I will copy elq quote) "CTHOLLY IS RIEL BUT RIEL IS NOT CTHOLLY" to put it simple just because she look like ctholly doesn't mean she is ctholly cause all ctholly memory, her personality,.... what make ctholly ctholly is now gone from Riel and Riel is a new existence with her own personality so yeah, it is safe to say ctholly is dead and I doubt willem will end up with Riel cause Riel was like 4-5 yrs so he probably end up with the troll lady (also, Elq is not ctholly, just because she has ctholly memory by always watching her doesn't make her ctholly like for example, if I watch a movie about willem, I would know everything about him but just because I know all doesn't make me willem) Ok so willem died Essay_kun said: Lisan_Blood said: dodgemoto_23 said: Lisan_Blood said: dodgemoto_23 said: Lisan_Blood said: For those who already read the novel, what happened to ren, chtolly, and willem??? And what happened to willem in sukamoka, and is the MCs changed at suka moka??? Yes, they have a new MC there. What abour willem??? Some novel reader said he turned into a beast. Did the new MC killed him when he's the beast? No, the MC of Sukamoka didn't appear in Sukasuka. And Willem did "die" after the events of Sukasuka. Ow ;-;........ That's kinda sad...... How did he died?? And does sukamoka continue after sukasuka or not? (btw sorry for too much question ;) ) Please, you guy really don't want to know how the novel end, when I go searching for the suka moka illustrations, I accidentally found the Chinese translation and it full so I take a peek and omfg, you can't believe how angry and sad I am to that sadistic author for making that ending, yes, the one who suffer again is willem but at least he willingly do that by pull out another lelouch's death by making himself the enemy of the island and sacrifice his life to protect the fairy warehouse, if you guy want more detail then scroll down but this is a heavily spoiler: So basically an organization on the island brought the beast to the island 11 but they got released and the beast attacking the army hq, the fairy come to save the day but realize most of the beast was being handle by the army new weapon/mech and these mechs are far more superior to the fairy (it was previously revealed that the army intend to destroy the fairy warehouse along with all the fairy because they have now finish develop a stronger weapon to fight the beast and the fairy existence are useless now but even though the fairy don't have to fight anymore, most of the people in the army Agree on killing all the fairy because they afraid to live next to a walking bomb) but coincidentally, willem also there, witnessing the battle (currently, his memories was sealed) but after seeing a blue hair fairy attempting to open the fairy gate when she got caught by the beast, he start to remember ctholly and all his previous memories that was sealed (this blue hair fairy here was lantoq/rhantoq and not ctholly cause she is dead) after regain his memory, he start to execute his plan to save all the fairy by turning letting the beast engulfed him and into a beast intentionally (the reason why his memory was seal is because so that the beast inside him won't take over his body). And he then destroys all the mech and no mech could kill him (because the first beast Shiator is also immortal like a visitor aka god but not the strongest) and after that, he challenges the fairy to a fight and he let them win by allow lakish (yellow hair girl) to use the seniorious to stab him in the heart thus "killing" him (the reason why this sword was so strong is because it has a special curse that no other have, turn anything into a corse and thus able to even kill the immortal being like visitor and first beast) while every soldier in the army watching and proving to all the big guy in the army that there are some beast far stronger than their mech and the only mean to kill them are the fairies and thus, forcing them to keep the fairies alive and the warehouse active but willem.........well he is "dead" now but at least his "dead" was not in vain cause he finally accomplished what he alway regrets: unable to protect what he love. And thus the story/prologue about willem is end and now we are move on to the main story focus on the 4 girls. This is some thing extra, 1) the last scene of the anime was from vol 3 chapter 5 (I think) and is was a scene about ctholly past when she was born and her 2 previous elder sister that she look up to before a few year later they sacrificed themselves too. 2) ctholly was reborn in suka Moka and her new name is Riel (that what the google translate into, not really if it correct) but (I will copy elq quote) "CTHOLLY IS RIEL BUT RIEL IS NOT CTHOLLY" to put it simple just because she look like ctholly doesn't mean she is ctholly cause all ctholly memory, her personality,.... what make ctholly ctholly is now gone from Riel and Riel is a new existence with her own personality so yeah, it is safe to say ctholly is dead and I doubt willem will end up with Riel cause Riel was like 4-5 yrs so he probably end up with the troll lady (also, Elq is not ctholly, just because she has ctholly memory by always watching her doesn't make her ctholly like for example, if I watch a movie about willem, I would know everything about him but just because I know all doesn't make me willem) Ok so did willem died in suka suka or suka moka? And what do you mean by you doubt willem will end up with riel?? I kinda went blank now uwu |
Jun 29, 2017 4:55 AM
#240
Essay_kun said: Lisan_Blood said: dodgemoto_23 said: Lisan_Blood said: dodgemoto_23 said: Lisan_Blood said: For those who already read the novel, what happened to ren, chtolly, and willem??? And what happened to willem in sukamoka, and is the MCs changed at suka moka??? Yes, they have a new MC there. What abour willem??? Some novel reader said he turned into a beast. Did the new MC killed him when he's the beast? No, the MC of Sukamoka didn't appear in Sukasuka. And Willem did "die" after the events of Sukasuka. Ow ;-;........ That's kinda sad...... How did he died?? And does sukamoka continue after sukasuka or not? (btw sorry for too much question ;) ) Please, you guy really don't want to know how the novel end, when I go searching for the suka moka illustrations, I accidentally found the Chinese translation and it full so I take a peek and omfg, you can't believe how angry and sad I am to that sadistic author for making that ending, yes, the one who suffer again is willem but at least he willingly do that by pull out another lelouch's death by making himself the enemy of the island and sacrifice his life to protect the fairy warehouse, if you guy want more detail then scroll down but this is a heavily spoiler: So basically an organization on the island brought the beast to the island 11 but they got released and the beast attacking the army hq, the fairy come to save the day but realize most of the beast was being handle by the army new weapon/mech and these mechs are far more superior to the fairy (it was previously revealed that the army intend to destroy the fairy warehouse along with all the fairy because they have now finish develop a stronger weapon to fight the beast and the fairy existence are useless now but even though the fairy don't have to fight anymore, most of the people in the army Agree on killing all the fairy because they afraid to live next to a walking bomb) but coincidentally, willem also there, witnessing the battle (currently, his memories was sealed) but after seeing a blue hair fairy attempting to open the fairy gate when she got caught by the beast, he start to remember ctholly and all his previous memories that was sealed (this blue hair fairy here was lantoq/rhantoq and not ctholly cause she is dead) after regain his memory, he start to execute his plan to save all the fairy by turning letting the beast engulfed him and into a beast intentionally (the reason why his memory was seal is because so that the beast inside him won't take over his body). And he then destroys all the mech and no mech could kill him (because the first beast Shiator is also immortal like a visitor aka god but not the strongest) and after that, he challenges the fairy to a fight and he let them win by allow lakish (yellow hair girl) to use the seniorious to stab him in the heart thus "killing" him (the reason why this sword was so strong is because it has a special curse that no other have, turn anything into a corse and thus able to even kill the immortal being like visitor and first beast) while every soldier in the army watching and proving to all the big guy in the army that there are some beast far stronger than their mech and the only mean to kill them are the fairies and thus, forcing them to keep the fairies alive and the warehouse active but willem.........well he is "dead" now but at least his "dead" was not in vain cause he finally accomplished what he alway regrets: unable to protect what he love. And thus the story/prologue about willem is end and now we are move on to the main story focus on the 4 girls. This is some thing extra, 1) the last scene of the anime was from vol 3 chapter 5 (I think) and is was a scene about ctholly past when she was born and her 2 previous elder sister that she look up to before a few year later they sacrificed themselves too. 2) ctholly was reborn in suka Moka and her new name is Riel (that what the google translate into, not really if it correct) but (I will copy elq quote) "CTHOLLY IS RIEL BUT RIEL IS NOT CTHOLLY" to put it simple just because she look like ctholly doesn't mean she is ctholly cause all ctholly memory, her personality,.... what make ctholly ctholly is now gone from Riel and Riel is a new existence with her own personality so yeah, it is safe to say ctholly is dead and I doubt willem will end up with Riel cause Riel was like 4-5 yrs so he probably end up with the troll lady (also, Elq is not ctholly, just because she has ctholly memory by always watching her doesn't make her ctholly like for example, if I watch a movie about willem, I would know everything about him but just because I know all doesn't make me willem) I don't want to post something about the whole ending But you post it anyway. Oh well, at least try to minimize the detail of it (it's quite detailed), for the reader of fan-translated novel so that, they can still find enjoy it . We know there's some people that don't know how to control themselves for being spoiled. |
Jun 29, 2017 7:40 AM
#241
Sorry :D kinda new in forums |
Jun 29, 2017 8:56 AM
#242
Holy shit that was amazing. |
Jun 29, 2017 9:21 AM
#244
We all are a masochists... We all know where is gonna go this one. Damn me and my masochism :'( That final scene, was very vague for all the Anime viewers. I know now that I have read all the previous post in this thread. But I wish I have never knowed. Now I'm more sad knowing that's not a rebirth... Anytime I thought about that I'm more sad :'( that scene is so fucking and unnecessary sad, the beautiful birth and the sad death all in one. Just why :'( |
Jun 29, 2017 9:39 AM
#245
LeonLanford said: Agreed.. I don't know why but I don't feel sad at all.. Though I've seen it coming from first episode. I knew that she will jump from the ship to save someone. The weird thing is she got impaled, survived from the nuke, and stand in front of the Wilem like it's nothing. In Your Lie in April anime, I can already see the ending but I got sad watching it, maybe this anime's confusing and ridiculous ending made this not 'sad' for me. fyi this scene is anime original. the LN just tell she fought endlessly and her memories faded with it, willem unconscious until the end of battle and chtholly has forgotten his name before she jump from the ship i prefer the LN ending, anime ending is more dramatic but the LN is more tragic IMO, still love it though |
Jun 29, 2017 9:47 AM
#246
someone26 said: LeonLanford said: Agreed.. I don't know why but I don't feel sad at all.. Though I've seen it coming from first episode. I knew that she will jump from the ship to save someone. The weird thing is she got impaled, survived from the nuke, and stand in front of the Wilem like it's nothing. In Your Lie in April anime, I can already see the ending but I got sad watching it, maybe this anime's confusing and ridiculous ending made this not 'sad' for me. fyi this scene is anime original. the LN just tell she fought endlessly and her memories faded with it, willem unconscious until the end of battle and chtholly has forgotten his name before she jump from the ship i prefer the LN ending, anime ending is more dramatic but the LN is more tragic IMO, still love it though Yeah. I've seen many anime with different story than the original source, that's why I said it's 'anime story' not the 'LN story' but everyone keep saying they're dead.. |
Jun 29, 2017 9:55 AM
#247
puchacamilo said: We all are a masochists... We all know where is gonna go this one. Damn me and my masochism :'( That final scene, was very vague for all the Anime viewers. I know now that I have read all the previous post in this thread. But I wish I have never knowed. Now I'm more sad knowing that's not a rebirth... Anytime I thought about that I'm more sad :'( that scene is so fucking and unnecessary sad, the beautiful birth and the sad death all in one. Just why :'( These posts nailed it: " Although she was born into this "half apocalyptic, restless, completely unsavable world", she was able to live her life to the fullest and become the happiest girl the the world" And: "it's a good way to let us know her story has reached it's end. At the very end of her life we are brought back to see the beginning of it, where her legacy starts". |
Jun 29, 2017 10:03 AM
#248
Damn, the juxtaposition of both scenes from the song and the exact matching at 1:42 where chtholly says she's the happiest girl in the world. |
Jun 29, 2017 10:17 AM
#249
dodgemoto_23 said: puchacamilo said: We all are a masochists... We all know where is gonna go this one. Damn me and my masochism :'( That final scene, was very vague for all the Anime viewers. I know now that I have read all the previous post in this thread. But I wish I have never knowed. Now I'm more sad knowing that's not a rebirth... Anytime I thought about that I'm more sad :'( that scene is so fucking and unnecessary sad, the beautiful birth and the sad death all in one. Just why :'( These posts nailed it: " Although she was born into this "half apocalyptic, restless, completely unsavable world", she was able to live her life to the fullest and become the happiest girl the the world" And: "it's a good way to let us know her story has reached it's end. At the very end of her life we are brought back to see the beginning of it, where her legacy starts". I prefer to keep the first one... The second one, it's just unnecessary sad :'( |
Jun 29, 2017 10:32 AM
#250
puchacamilo said: dodgemoto_23 said: puchacamilo said: We all are a masochists... We all know where is gonna go this one. Damn me and my masochism :'( That final scene, was very vague for all the Anime viewers. I know now that I have read all the previous post in this thread. But I wish I have never knowed. Now I'm more sad knowing that's not a rebirth... Anytime I thought about that I'm more sad :'( that scene is so fucking and unnecessary sad, the beautiful birth and the sad death all in one. Just why :'( These posts nailed it: " Although she was born into this "half apocalyptic, restless, completely unsavable world", she was able to live her life to the fullest and become the happiest girl the the world" And: "it's a good way to let us know her story has reached it's end. At the very end of her life we are brought back to see the beginning of it, where her legacy starts". I prefer to keep the first one... The second one, it's just unnecessary sad :'( Take it whatever you prefer : ) |
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