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Toadesstern said: What do you mean? It's not like Ecchan raped Hanabi, it was just Hanabi accepting her feelings as a friend she cares about, right?Honestly speaking Ecchan is pretty twisted herself and I'm a bit surprised that noone is mentioning that in here. Probably just got overshadowed by Akane and all that lewd because unless I misunderstood that yuri-scene she was also completely exploiting and manipulating Hanabi in that situation. That also felt horrible, but in contrast to the teacher felt right to me. //edit LOL and just as I mention it someone else mentions Ecchan. Those ninja's// |
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| Great episode. Akane is a bitch using men & hurting Hanabi like that. Woah that yuri love. Hanabi & Ecchan finding comfort, but it doesn't feel right. Everything is getting complicated. |
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T3hSource said: Toadesstern said: What do you mean? It's not like Ecchan raped Hanabi, it was just Hanabi accepting her feelings as a friend she cares about, right?Honestly speaking Ecchan is pretty twisted herself and I'm a bit surprised that noone is mentioning that in here. Probably just got overshadowed by Akane and all that lewd because unless I misunderstood that yuri-scene she was also completely exploiting and manipulating Hanabi in that situation. That also felt horrible, but in contrast to the teacher felt right to me. //edit LOL and just as I mention it someone else mentions Ecchan. Those ninja's// well... http://imgur.com/a/VougT I don't think that's something you're supposed to gloss over and be happy about |
| Truly another great episode. These 23 minutes felt like mere seconds. Akane finally showing her twisted side. |
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| At least it's not School Days. |
Ysad_Ziwezhan said: I don't get the "lick her lips" action for the teacher at the end. I mean, we understood she's bad. What's the point bringing this stupid cliché on top of it? Totally unnecessary. Did the direction thought there were some 10 years old kids watching? Seriously. Not a fan of the teacher's voice either. You're really crying over nothing, wow. |
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XXXXXXXXXIII said: At least it's not School Days. It is not, yet?:D:P |
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| Boi. I mean, not really surprised for Akane, got a little bit spoiled about her But even Ecchan is pretty much using Hanabi for her while she can. Poor Kanai, seems like hes the only one normal (so far) in this shitstorm. |
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Did we forget about Noriko already? I thought, her scene in this episode direction-wise was really poignant and sad. Felt bad for her the instant i saw that. |
Toadesstern said: What do you mean? We got a full on yuri scene with actual lust, how can you not be happy?! well... http://imgur.com/a/VougT I don't think that's something you're supposed to gloss over and be happy about I mean is it really that bad that Ecchan is hurling herself onto Hanabi forcefully to sate her sexual desire, while Hanabi is just taking it as to care for Ecchan as well as distract herself for letting Akane get close to her Onii-chan before her. It's fine, right? |
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HaikeiMoji said: If only truck-kun was in this anime. -_- this anime doesn't need truck-kun to be good. but that other anime really needs truck-kun so bad or it will stay shit forever. (well, though it will stay shit anyway after truck-kun comes) |
| Here we see this is named "Scum's Wish" for a reason. |
   “There are two kinds of arrogance. One where you are unequal to the task and one where your dreams are too big. The former is commonplace stupidity... but the latter is a rare species that is difficult to find.”  |
Mentar said: I'm almost surprised how generally constructive the discussion has been so far :) ... honestly, I expected a sea of flames right now. Ysad_Ziwezhan/Toadesstern: Keep in mind that this anime has the habit to first introduce a character in a surprising/shocking way, people then complain about this character being "unrealistic", and then they are fleshed out with many more details afterwards. This will be particularly true for Akane, who I consider the second most important character in the show after Hanabi. Also, I suggest to keep a very close eye on what truly moves Akane. Is it really lust? Or is it something different? I suggest you rewatch her scenes, because ep4 handles her very well. This is also why Hanabi is actually wrong: She is _not_ like Akane, no matter what she believes. Her "evil inner child" (which was a fantastic scene that gave me goosebumps) channeling her self-denigration says so, but think about it: For what reason did Hanabi and Akane do what they did? Are they really the same? From afar, akane could be real : _ a woman sleeping with men one after the other : possible. _ a girl targeting a boy because of another girl : possible. _ a girl bullying another girl because of jealousy : possible _ an adult behaving like a child : possible it's just the way the mangaka presented the whole package didn't convince me. |
Ysad_ZiwezhanFeb 2, 2017 3:44 PM
| Yuri is real... and you like it! |
| one word: AMAZING!!! I hope this bitch die eat by dogs |
T3hSource said: Toadesstern said: What do you mean? We got a full on yuri scene with actual lust, how can you not be happy?! well... http://imgur.com/a/VougT I don't think that's something you're supposed to gloss over and be happy about I mean is it really that bad that Ecchan is hurling herself onto Hanabi forcefully to sate her sexual desire, while Hanabi is just taking it as to care for Ecchan as well as distract herself for letting Akane get close to her Onii-chan before her. It's fine, right? Is what ecchan says in that scene bad from a series-pov? No I think I've been quite clear that I didn't mind that. Is it bad from a human pov? Most certainly. She's manipulating and abusing Hanabi's inability to act. That's an awful thing to do. But people sometimes do awful things so I'm totally okay with that from a storytelling pov |
| the girls in this show is so sick as fuck, especially Akane. how come someone like her become a teacher? and no one knows about her? well, whatever. if it were me, i will blackmailed Akane so she will become mine only foreva... happy end.. |
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| Good animation, Good OST, Great Story premises with a compelling story so far, Deep characters that evolve. This got me hooked so fast that I, every week, am watching and listening carefully and attentive every bit of the episode without losing focus from begging to end. This might be one of my favorite romance dramas, that I've watch so far if the anime keeps this pace until the end. Hell this is one of the better Dramas I've seen in the past few years. |
| Ysad_Ziwezhan: I thought that the episode was fairly clear... shows that even with a lot of inner-voice exposition, there's still enough to puzzle together. In short: Primarily, Akane is not a slut, but a sadist. She isn't really driven by lust - she was almost disinterested when Terauchi took her again in the morning. We know that she enjoys to be desired. Having people pine over her and wanting her is making her smile. But what is _really_ getting her off is when she is taking what others desire. She orchestrated Hanabi and Narumi to meet in the music room at the same time in order to see Hanabi's hurt face. She was getting in Hanabi's face explicitly to see her jealousy and desperation. And in the end, she even taunted her to this effect: "I'm not really sure, but my guess is that since he has no chance with the person he pines for, he's just filling the void with some accessible classmate." Which is about the meanest and cruelest thing that anyone could say, both denigrating and taunting Hanabi at the same time. On another forum, someone referred to Akane's inner voice quote "I can't really tell how good someone is unless someone says they are" as an admission that she is a bad judge of character. Nothing could be further away from the truth - in fact, Akane has exceptional social and observational skills. After all, she picked up Hanabi's, Mugi's and even Moca's desires with one look. No, what this quote meant in context was something different: First, she needs to hear/see that someone _really_ wants someone else, and _then_ she moves in to take him away (and destroy the one she robs in the process). When she sees a girl wanting a boy, this lights a desire in Akane to steal the boy away in order to see the desperation in the face of the girl. Try to rewatch the key scenes from this perspective. She is no slut driven by lust, who wants to posess popular men for herself. She is a sadist, who loves taking away men from other girls, in order to see them hurt. |
| Bitch sensei............I laughed the whole epsidoe xD It's official Ecchan wants to fuck too ^^ |
SkyLETVFeb 2, 2017 4:31 PM
Vonatra said: the girls in this show is so sick as fuck, especially Akane. how come someone like her become a teacher? and no one knows about her? well, whatever. Well, sociopaths are know to be pathological liars as well as being charming and intelligent (and also narcissistic and immature) |
| Wow compared to her, Mugi and Hanabi look like saints. Best Scum Akane Sensei confirmed! |
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| This is a brilliant adaptation. Time to watch people complain more because their feelings are hurt, though. |
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I am still liking Best Bi Girl Ecchan! However, it would appear that something only has value if someone else wants it.... In that case: |
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Mentar said: Ysad_Ziwezhan: I thought that the episode was fairly clear... shows that even with a lot of inner-voice exposition, there's still enough to puzzle together. In short: Primarily, Akane is not a slut, but a sadist. She isn't really driven by lust - she was almost disinterested when Terauchi took her again in the morning. We know that she enjoys to be desired. Having people pine over her and wanting her is making her smile. But what is _really_ getting her off is when she is taking what others desire. She orchestrated Hanabi and Narumi to meet in the music room at the same time in order to see Hanabi's hurt face. She was getting in Hanabi's face explicitly to see her jealousy and desperation. And in the end, she even taunted her to this effect: "I'm not really sure, but my guess is that since he has no chance with the person he pines for, he's just filling the void with some accessible classmate." Which is about the meanest and cruelest thing that anyone could say, both denigrating and taunting Hanabi at the same time. On another forum, someone referred to Akane's inner voice quote "I can't really tell how good someone is unless someone says they are" as an admission that she is a bad judge of character. Nothing could be further away from the truth - in fact, Akane has exceptional social and observational skills. After all, she picked up Hanabi's, Mugi's and even Moca's desires with one look. No, what this quote meant in context was something different: First, she needs to hear/see that someone _really_ wants someone else, and _then_ she moves in to take him away (and destroy the one she robs in the process). When she sees a girl wanting a boy, this lights a desire in Akane to steal the boy away in order to see the desperation in the face of the girl. Try to rewatch the key scenes from this perspective. She is no slut driven by lust, who wants to posess popular men for herself. She is a sadist, who loves taking away men from other girls, in order to see them hurt. Spot on with Akane, as a reader of a manga her character really shines, and as dislikeable as she is, she is still my favourite character! OT: Brialliant episode, though I think they toned down the lewd stuff in the hotel as compared to the manga, but like someone mentioned, 23 minutes flew by in mere seconds. |
| oh boy this wont end well for that bitch |
| Akane what an evil bitch... still can't help but love her though. Hana is turning into her to beat her.. like to see where this will go. My only complaint with this episode is the lack of Mugi. His presence is the hope/light in the show. |
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| Excellent episode as always, with great mood and several godly moments. Really great direction here. I really like Akane as a character, she really brings great contrast to main heroine. Well, I didn't like the ending where she licked her lips (I think that was pretty much needless to emphasize the meaning of that scene) but other that that this episode was great and it hold many truths that are normally hidden in minds of lovers in relationships, including pushy Ecchan and Akane's background.. Your obvious conclusion would be that the teacher is the worst kind of scum but in the end, everyone just wants their heart's desire whatever it is. Everyone is simply filling their void in the best way they can. Still, the main heroine is at least conscious of it as it's not something she would accepted just yet and her pure and noble struggle is just great sight to behold. That's just the one thing Akane is wrong with her assumptions of Hanabi's character, she's not the same as her, her motives are completely different. Also, one has to simply love the ending moment when teacher let her know that she is desired by two men while Hanabi is loved by none, such a great contrast. |
Mich666Feb 2, 2017 5:24 PM
| all i can say is thank-fucking-god someone in the ep1 thread convinced me to keep watching, because i was going to drop it. this shit is so melodramatic, twisted and you could even say evil... and i am LIVING for it. the teacher is fucking awful but it hit me like a jackhammer a couple of minutes ago that i kind of relate to her... whoops. (i get to join the scum party, yay!) edit: also, i LOVE the soundtrack. there's some fucking beautiful songs in this show, man! |
| Also, another thing of note - the part when Ecchan says about wanting no matter what the feels of others are is just so true and on spot with real world. That part resonates with me strongly as I believe everyone has such desires when they're in love, no matter if they are saying that's not true. It's kinda funny thing as most people takes love as something noble while it is, in fact, no such thing. Yes, it's a harsh truth but the desire or should I say love is just a mere selfish feeling. People are always thinking of their own good in the first place when the love is concerned, even if that good is made of their own sacrifices for others. And even if they are giving, they are just doing that for their selfish desires, for their own fullfilment. And this was maybe the first anime I've seen that had shown it right. |
| this series is going PLACES |
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| I really was hoping Hanabi would give an expression Akane wouldn't expect. But no, that sadistic psychopath got what she wanted. Really hoping for her eventual downfall if that happens. The only sane character I can look to is the onii-chan teacher. Please not be as fucked up as everyone else. |
| I need sleep. |
| Bitch sensei makes her official anime debut. Unfortunately she gets a somewhat happy ending. MASS SPOILER, LIKE SERIOUSLY MASS SPOILER!!!! |
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| This episode made my jaw drop! What an episode this is. Bitch-sensei for real!... She was way "darker" than I expected. ...and that Yuri again... :O Looking forward for another intense episode (hopefully) next week. |
footmasterFeb 2, 2017 7:20 PM
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Toadesstern said: Ysad_Ziwezhan said: I don't get the "lick her lips" action for the teacher at the end. I mean, we understood she's bad. What's the point bringing this stupid cliché on top of it? Totally unnecessary. Did the direction thought there were some 10 years old kids watching? Seriously. Not a fan of the teacher's voice either. yeah overall not a fan of her. And not because I don't like her, you're obviously not supposed to like her but she feels way to cliché evil character to be taken seriously for me. Sad when so far for me the strong point of the series and why I loved it so far has always been that the characters are way more relatable and made you think they're actual characters (if you take the melodrama setting for granted) than most other romance shows. Agreed. binge read the manga a while ago and man the story really goes to shit. |
<In the ghost town of our love there is a player piano trying to prove it can make music without being touched. My fingertips miss her so much.> |
VoN1508 said: -Stray said: Oh God.... yeap no... no words can describe how I feel for this episode.... the fcking bitch has been revealed at long last, now lets get it on with the juicy parts. Oh yeah, manga readers sadly ma boi i dont think what ure thinking is in line with what the phrase actually means |
<In the ghost town of our love there is a player piano trying to prove it can make music without being touched. My fingertips miss her so much.> |
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