| I don't understand why those type of characters are what people favor in anime. Even for a mediocre anime, the tsundere always seems to steal the show in peoples' eyes. I don't think there's any tsundere I liked except for Kiki from Kiki's Delivery Service and the last time I saw that, I was 13 so I may have overlooked it but even then, I hated obnoxious characters. I remember Kiki being very friendly and sweet, so maybe that balances her tsundere personality a bit. I don't know what I'd think of her now. But characters such as Holo from Spice and Wolf or Misato Katsuragi, I can't seem to get into. The very bratty type is what turns me off and I do not like seeing people hostile to their lovers. Tsundere is a stereotype now, and I thought most people would hate tsunderes. And I really hate how people get so defensive about them. What's about them that people love so much? They're aggressive, egotistical, call people "baka" for stupid reasons and controlling. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
| Why do people keep making threads like this? |
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| Misato is tsundere? what? and it's because people who self-insert feel like accomplished human beings when their abusive waifu opens up to them and becomes kawaii |
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| Because it's fun to watch a tsundere transform from a stone cold biatch to a loving person because she finally opened up to her feelings. |
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vikki7783 said: Misato is tsundere? what? and it's because people who self-insert feel like accomplished human beings when their abusive waifu opens up to them and becomes kawaii She is to Kaji. She was jealous of Ritsuko being with him. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
| Why do people adding pepper to their food? Why is milk added into coffee? I wonder~ |
| This salad is salty favored |
Those are some silly questions man. Food doesn't hurt anyone unless their allergic. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
| Stone cold bitch? You mean, a stupid girl who pretends she is stone cold while hitting main character every 5 minute because of literally no reason. No, actually, because MC baka! |
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so as you can see there are at least a few reasons why people like that archetype |
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| misato is really hot and also kisses shinji at the end (i.e. the dere side) which makes her even more moe moe doki doki but she was never that tsun tsun tbh.. asuka fits this role better not familiar with the other characters you described, but the above should apply to most tsudnere.. tsun and dere are like yin and yang |
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| The same as your question. Tsunderes characters are not going to hurt anybody unless they are "allergic" |
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| I can understand why people don't like Tsunderes (they're everywhere and can be really big jerks) and I'm sure It won't be easy to deal with this kind of character if It exists in real. But for some reasons, I kinda like them. I lke to see their soft-adorable part behind the cold wall they create. Maybe It's a proof they start to trust someone, they open their heart to people who understand them... Maybe It's seeing the beauty in something hostile and ugly I like. (It's quite the opposite of Yanderes for me. beautifull outside-ugly inside) Honestly, I kinda recognize myself in them. Grumpy, pessimist, not a social person at all with some misanthrop believes but when I meet someone who understand me and accept for what I am, I become more open, more gentle... ...but maybe I mistake with Kuuderes. |
BalongJan 9, 2017 5:11 PM
| hahaha tsundere is shit, straight up bitches are always the best |
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GangsterCat said: hahaha tsundere is shit, straight up bitches are always the best What's wrong with not liking bratty personalities? |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
Darek said: Because MAL is full of masochist didn't ya know? I'm one of them tho so not like I'm judging or anything Don't have to be a masochist to like a tsundere, I like to think of it as a rendition of "Taming of the Shrew". |
SomeEdgeLord said: I WILL report you from this forum if this continues. In real life, I am one of the coldest, unsympathetic, people you'll ever know, who's grown up in an even colder household, you really don't want me to break my persona, I know how to make people feel bad. YearnsforAttention said: hm who has 1656 friends on MAL that's right me bye bye YearnsforAttention said: I don't want your approval how many damn times do I need to say it I enjoy irritating you I am gonna do things MY way |
| It's a common trope. Often tsundere steal the spotlight not because they are tsundere but because they are the main heroine. So I guess what you meant by the question is why tsundere so often find themselves as the main heroine? Ok so.... while over-exaggerated, these tropes are referenced from real life people. Tropes like the dandere or kuudere kinda make sense, but unfortunately would be considered boring by most anime standards. Tsunderes on the other hand make less sense, but the flashiness is an appeal of sorts. |
BurningSpiritJan 10, 2017 6:48 AM
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| Some tsundere's are lovely, like Kyou, Chitoge, or Mikoto. But tsundere like Kirino, unlike! |
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| Simply put it, because people can and they will. That's just it. It's like asking yourself, "why do I breath everyday?" you'll come up with deep reasonings, but it will just lead to one thing: For you to be alive. I do add pepper to food, it has a strong fragrance that removes the meat/chicken's odour, especially if it's ground pork... Ehhh? Milk to coffee... Never tried that. I either add sugar or none. |
_Ako_Jan 9, 2017 6:07 PM
| Everyone has different tastes and types. It's like that for anything. Tsunderes usually are typical and annoying, but with good writing any type of character/any type of category they are in can be very good if they pull it off right. |
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| Is not the agressive part that amuses people, is their hidden kind, shy and blushing side. Kind shy blushing girls are just the best, and getting that behavior from a tsundere is so hard that when it finally happens the effect it has is more rewarding than with a girl that is just docile 24/7. Liking or not a tsundere character is a matter of how much mean treatment you are willing to whistand in order to get to the price that is her good side. |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
_Ako_ said: Simply put it, because people can and they will. That's just it. It's like asking yourself, "why do I breath everyday?" you'll come up with deep reasonings, but it will just lead to one thing: For you to be alive. _Ako_ said: Simply put it, because people can and they will. That's just it. It's like asking yourself, "why do I breath everyday?" you'll come up with deep reasonings, but it will just lead to one thing: For you to be alive. The same as your question. Tsunderes characters are not going to hurt anybody unless they are "allergic" Guys, why are you saying all these stupid things? This is not about taste buds or about necessities. It's about entertainment and likeability. Making a character as antagonistic as a tsundere will lead to some people not liking them, it's the same for bullies or just plain bratty characters. You would probably not like to be around somebody like that because if I would, I would reprimand them, attack them, or try to stop the fight. There is no need to get defensive. If it was somebody who is so sweet and innocent, that would be less of a problem. It's not the end of the world if there's no tsundere in a particular anime. You can make really kind characters without making them tsunderes or angsty. Cowboy Bebop is a good example because even though some of the characters are selfish and have a temper, they still show a compassionate side at times. Like even though Spike was annoyed with Roco at first, it didn't last long and he warmed up to him. The show felt realistic an well-rounded. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
| The only tsundere I like is Mizuha Shiratori and Kasugano Sora so yeah I generally dislike tsundere. |
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_Ako_ said: Yeah, people that like pepper will love, and people who dont gonna hate it. As this tsundere topic~ I do add pepper to food, it has a strong fragrance that removes the meat/chicken's odour, especially if it's ground pork... Ehhh? Milk to coffee... Never tried that. I either add sugar or none. Yup, milk to coffee. Certain people use non-dairy creamer if they allergic to lactose or just simply want to cut cost. I am fine either way. Sugar is fine too. lol |
EsperJan 9, 2017 6:30 PM
| This salad is salty favored |
| Because the majority has poor taste. Should this surprise anyone by now? |
"I'd take rampant lesbianism over nuclear armageddon or a supervolcano any day." ~nikiforova |
InsaneLeader13 said: Because the majority has poor taste. Should this surprise anyone by now? I don't care about good tastes or bad tastes. More like maybe the majority are negative people. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
| the gap between the mean and the caring side is seen as cute by some people |
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CloudyKnight said: the gap between the mean and the caring side is seen as cute by some people I agree people usually like the transition how the tsundere actually becomes more enjoyable to see. |
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pinkarray said: _Ako_ said: Simply put it, because people can and they will. That's just it. It's like asking yourself, "why do I breath everyday?" you'll come up with deep reasonings, but it will just lead to one thing: For you to be alive. _Ako_ said: Simply put it, because people can and they will. That's just it. It's like asking yourself, "why do I breath everyday?" you'll come up with deep reasonings, but it will just lead to one thing: For you to be alive. The same as your question. Tsunderes characters are not going to hurt anybody unless they are "allergic" Guys, why are you saying all these stupid things? This is not about taste buds or about necessities. It's about entertainment and likeability. Making a character as antagonistic as a tsundere will lead to some people not liking them, it's the same for bullies or just plain bratty characters. You would probably not like to be around somebody like that because if I would, I would reprimand them, attack them, or try to stop the fight. There is no need to get defensive. If it was somebody who is so sweet and innocent, that would be less of a problem. It's not the end of the world if there's no tsundere in a particular anime. You can make really kind characters without making them tsunderes or angsty. Cowboy Bebop is a good example because even though some of the characters are selfish and have a temper, they still show a compassionate side at times. Like even though Spike was annoyed with Roco at first, it didn't last long and he warmed up to him. The show felt realistic an well-rounded. I'm not saying something s-stupid!Y-you baka! I-it's not like I-I'm doing it to get your... attention or anything! Esper said: _Ako_ said: Yeah, people that like pepper will love, and people who dont gonna hate it. As this tsundere topic~ I do add pepper to food, it has a strong fragrance that removes the meat/chicken's odour, especially if it's ground pork... Ehhh? Milk to coffee... Never tried that. I either add sugar or none. Yup, milk to coffee. Certain people use non-dairy creamer if they allergic to lactose or just simply want to cut cost. I am fine either way. Sugar is fine too. lol Mhhh.. Well this thread will just another one of those, " I fucking don't like your opinion so I will present me..." kind of thing so yeah... Mhhh.... Yeah, sugar is the way to go! Or much better if you have a cinnamon rolls... Ohhh that's the way to really enjoy coffee~ |
| Because they are masochists who want to be abused both physically and verbally till they see the "goodness" and "character development" in them. I hope that every tsundere supporter will get a tsundere love interest someday and then end up in an abusive relationship and marry them, I'm sure nothing would be more pleasurable than being abused by a "well developed" tsunderes, right? ^_^ |
| [quote=_Ako_ message=49275507] pinkarray said: OK, you got my attention now xD- I'm not saying something s-stupid!Y-you baka! I-it's not like I-I'm doing it to get your... attention or anything! _Ako_ said: Cinnamon rools.. I should have tried it sometimes. Usually having it with biscuit only~Mhhh.. Well this thread will just another one of those, " I fucking don't like your opinion so I will present me..." kind of thing so yeah... Mhhh.... Yeah, sugar is the way to go! Or much better if you have a cinnamon rolls... Ohhh that's the way to really enjoy coffee~ pinkarray said: The same as your question. Tsunderes characters are not going to hurt anybody unless they are "allergic" Guys, why are you saying all these stupid things? This is not about taste buds or about necessities. It's about entertainment and likeability. Making a character as antagonistic as a tsundere will lead to some people not liking them, it's the same for bullies or just plain bratty characters. NOPE. It is highly correlated with taste/perspective. You probably think that tsunderes is immature. Yes, they are IMMATURE. Therefore the male part will play the MATURE one. FORGIVE them for their IMMATURITY and become a mature MAN. Well, certain people cannot accept this because they are too proud of their MASCULINITY. Cannot be hep then~ |
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pinkarray said: What's about them that people love so much? They're aggressive, egotistical, call people "baka" for stupid reasons and controlling. Do you really want to hear the truth? Read about Skinner's box. Tsundere who are randomly nice and mean, and make you think you're making progress, are irresistible. Just like RPGs and their levelups, and a few other modes of entertainment. About tsundere and sadism/masochism. As a sexual sadist, I find tsundere to be fun. Why? Because sexual stuff (like protagonist falling on her breasts or walking in on her changing) happens to her all the time. And it gets a reaction from her without fail. And unlike shy girls who burst into tears, she can take it, so I don't feel guilty. Maybe it's just gratifying to have your sexuality have an effect on other people. Gazz said: Some tsundere's are lovely, like Kyou, Chitoge, or Mikoto. But tsundere like Kirino, unlike! I have a younger brother, and I find Kirino's relationship with her older brother to be quite real. |
flannanJan 9, 2017 10:50 PM
| Blushes, it's all about blushes man |
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| Because anime fans for the most part are cucked beta males. |
| Hmm.. From my own personal taste their aren't that bad... As Usual You can either hate, or love that anime character.. But not even if she's alpha bitch.. (GET OUT OF HERE :P) It's due to their archetype.. one was quite a rich wannabe, a violent, a pursuing to beat the mc in every games, or a loner.. |
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| That is a thing that I really don't know.I think this video sums up tsunderes perfectly. |
| I don't think that tsunderes fans are "masochist" because most people watch anime as a "side observer" and not from the eyes of the main character. That is why slipping on a banana peel is funny and isn't frightening and sad =3 Also, tsunderes character are a pretty good archetype for the story and plot of the anime. When they need to be "funny" they have the tsun side and when they need to be "romantic" they have the dere side =3 They are very dynamic =3 |
 shit!! he got me! that fucking Poly boomed me! he's so good! (x4) |
| The term tsunderes is basically just a nicer way of saying a cuntbag. They are nothing but bitches that should get their shit kicked in when they get all violent. |
| Because they haven't seen enough of them to realize how annoying they actually are. |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| They are masochistic, find their denial cute, like the possibility of of they having a character development or a combination of all those three aspects. In my case, I don't mind Tsunderes as long as they are not completely unbearable. |
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| There's something I find really cute about girls who are reserved about their true feelings. Not all tsunderes are violent, some of them only verbally abuse the guys they like. I think Hinamori Amu is a great tsundere. |
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| Anime fans are masochists They love girls who treat them like trash I avoid romance anime with tsundere as main love interest, can't stand those bitches |
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| Because 99% of the fans are masochists who get off girls hitting and insulting them .. I am not one of those and I dislike most tsunderes.. |
| When done well they show and ideal relationship for many: no stranger would love you straight from the start, through effort and getting to know them better you fall in love, "you conquer her heart" which is even more of a feat as she was all tsun at the start. Personally I just like the shy mushy mushy dere side Most "tsundere" these days are wretched abominations that seem more like an abusive psycho with the mc clearly being a maso. Somehow this sells to the masses and it's really easy to write, so you will see this type more often |
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| Take easy OP. Tsundere is one of unique things that i found in anime like moe, loli, manzai, frame using, etc. But i'm understand on your concert OP sometimes i'll get triggered with some tsundere characters if it not executed well by animated studio. One of the other reason why did OP hates tsundere is (maybe) OP already watched many tsundere characters and getting boring with that. So take a breath and brave yourself because tsundere is popular than other dere. You will found many of them in future. |
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| @Esper Yay! Senpai noticed me~ Biscuits is also good, but I prefer to either have doughnuts or either bread, but usually I don't eat something when I drink coffee... |
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