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Jan 31, 2016 2:15 PM

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lilcoffeebean said:
http://socialblade.com/youtube/user/thefinebros

Here is a graph of their subscriber count since their video launched. It's quite amusing. They've essentially lost 25k+ subscribers after that video. Of course they still have over 14 million, so I doubt they're overly worried.

Topkek. I wonder if they're looking at their stats and realizing how much they messed up. But it's all good, because they're still making that bank and will be even more eventually if everything goes through fine with the copyright.

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They sound really scared, cornered and without confidence. Is the ship sinking?


They should backpedal before it's too late.

Maybe they'll be like Xbox and backpedal on their DRM policy, but at this point I really have no hope for the Fine Bros.
Jan 31, 2016 2:19 PM

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They're surely not worried.

I mean, they're losing 100 subs per minute and it doesn't seem to me that it's dying.




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Jan 31, 2016 2:41 PM

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who told them they were entitled to this their channel sucks tho??

nearly 70k subs lost today
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Jan 31, 2016 2:58 PM

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More anime YouTubers speaking out on how this copyright will mess everyone up

Jan 31, 2016 3:10 PM

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they just hit 13m congrats finebros!!

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Jan 31, 2016 3:12 PM
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Posted this on the other thread, posting it here as well

https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/43bqa1/lets_not_just_yell_about_the_react_trademark_lets/czh3w9f


all of their channels are losing subscribers, even mymusic has lost some
Jan 31, 2016 3:38 PM

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Is this real? Holy shit they're losing so much its beautiful
I've been here way too long...
Jan 31, 2016 3:41 PM
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I'm disappointed...I feel like they are not being clear about this either, it's a mess
Jan 31, 2016 3:44 PM

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TheConquerer said:

Is this real? Holy shit they're losing so much its beautiful

Yup. There's several other websites holding a live count of their sub fall as well. You should have seen how fast it was going down yesterday.

LordIkage said:
Posted this on the other thread, posting it here as well

https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/43bqa1/lets_not_just_yell_about_the_react_trademark_lets/czh3w9f


all of their channels are losing subscribers, even mymusic has lost some

If more people read that link they'd have a better understanding of what's going on. The Fine Bros cherry-picked words won't fly.
Jan 31, 2016 3:45 PM

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That's so shitty of them, and their explaination is just ridiculous :D I don't watch them, but you can't just own things like reacting videos, that's absurd... Will they take down reactions to Boku no Pico as well :D?

The Internet doesn't forget, that's for sure, hopefully they will learn their lesson. Though with that kind of attitude and greediness I seriously doubt it...
Jan 31, 2016 3:49 PM

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I just don't understand how they can trademark the word "React". It's not like Michael Buffer who started the phrase "Let's get ready to rumble" and make it super famous, react and it's subsequent style of video has been in use years before their own popularization of it.
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Jan 31, 2016 3:57 PM

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maybe they'll reach 12m within the next hour. it would be such an acomplishment!!

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Jan 31, 2016 4:08 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVPwzBrmRwg

There's a lifestream where you can watch the unsubscribe numbers. This is by far the best youtube community gathering I've seen since SOPA
Jan 31, 2016 4:08 PM

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YOU JUST GOT PRANK'D FINE BROS

YOU JUST GOT PRANK'D

Here's a sub count site by the way: https://akshatmittal.com/youtube-realtime/#!/TheFineBrosShaking my head... what a bunch of greedy fucks
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Jan 31, 2016 4:15 PM
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Protaku said:
TheConquerer said:

Is this real? Holy shit they're losing so much its beautiful

Yup. There's several other websites holding a live count of their sub fall as well. You should have seen how fast it was going down yesterday.

LordIkage said:
Posted this on the other thread, posting it here as well

https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/43bqa1/lets_not_just_yell_about_the_react_trademark_lets/czh3w9f


all of their channels are losing subscribers, even mymusic has lost some

If more people read that link they'd have a better understanding of what's going on. The Fine Bros cherry-picked words won't fly.
Exactly, please spread the word with this.
Jan 31, 2016 4:17 PM

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We built the channel up, so it's quite poetic that we burn it to the ground. They dug their own graves
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Jan 31, 2016 4:26 PM

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bennitori said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVPwzBrmRwg

There's a lifestream where you can watch the unsubscribe numbers. This is by far the best youtube community gathering I've seen since SOPA


Cool, it's like watching the Hindenburg crash in slow motion but with numbers instead of hydrogen and flames.
Jan 31, 2016 4:31 PM

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Comic_Sans said:
YOU JUST GOT PRANK'D FINE BROS

YOU JUST GOT PRANK'D

Here's a sub count site by the way: https://akshatmittal.com/youtube-realtime/#!/TheFineBrosShaking my head... what a bunch of greedy fucks

One week later: "It was just a prank guys! Now everyone sub back to us!"
Smh. All these subscribers leaving will hardly leave a dent. It's when they lose sponsors, now that'll put a dampen on their mood.

bobzanny said:
I just don't understand how they can trademark the word "React". It's not like Michael Buffer who started the phrase "Let's get ready to rumble" and make it super famous, react and it's subsequent style of video has been in use years before their own popularization of it.

People just feel the need to copyright everything these days. I hope this negativity scares anyway from trying the same thing the Fine Bros. did.
Jan 31, 2016 4:35 PM

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@Protaku

Why do you think they got sponsored in the first place? If they don't have views, they don't get money.

Sure, at first it might have been "They have potential.", but now with this fuckup and people leaving and all, they might as well lose sponsors any time soon.




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Jan 31, 2016 4:39 PM

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Protaku said:
Comic_Sans said:
YOU JUST GOT PRANK'D FINE BROS

YOU JUST GOT PRANK'D

Here's a sub count site by the way: https://akshatmittal.com/youtube-realtime/#!/TheFineBrosShaking my head... what a bunch of greedy fucks

One week later: "It was just a prank guys! Now everyone sub back to us!"
Smh. All these subscribers leaving will hardly leave a dent. It's when they lose sponsors, now that'll put a dampen on their mood.

bobzanny said:
I just don't understand how they can trademark the word "React". It's not like Michael Buffer who started the phrase "Let's get ready to rumble" and make it super famous, react and it's subsequent style of video has been in use years before their own popularization of it.

People just feel the need to copyright everything these days. I hope this negativity scares anyway from trying the same thing the Fine Bros. did.

It's really disgusting but you are right, once they lose the sponsors then change will start to come around.
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Jan 31, 2016 4:44 PM

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This is very sad. I don't really care what the truth is... and I don't think their intention is bad...
...but they f*** up by making it so unclear and direct at the same time. You cannot say such things to the public.

That being said, people are stupid. Majority of the complaining audience has no idea what they are complaining about. This isn't something that every average Joe should rant about, having a valid opinion requires a minimum of related knowledge in fields like law (related to the situation), marketing and so on, which most of us don't have, let's be real.

People automatically calling them greedy and trashing them overall based on those videos without giving it a deeper thought make me very sad.
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Jan 31, 2016 4:47 PM

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Immahnoob said:
@Protaku

Why do you think they got sponsored in the first place? If they don't have views, they don't get money.

Sure, at first it might have been "They have potential.", but now with this fuckup and people leaving and all, they might as well lose sponsors any time soon.

But they already have several very noteworthy sponsors like Disney and Universal:
https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/43g6em/fine_brothers_sponsor_list/

This is whole fiasco is only drawing such a harsh backlash because they're such a huge presence in the YouTube community and have already branched much further than that. Losing 10k+ subs means nothing to them since they're already swimming in millions upon millions of subscribers. But those subs only generate a very small fraction of their paycheck; It's their sponsors that bring in a lot of the dough—And with how The Fine Bros structured their company (poorly), the loss of a single sponsor would likely force them to lay off a sizable amount of their employees.

What this backlash has at the very least done is make companies have second thoughts about sponsoring them, and the worst case is that companies that already sponsor them will back off and leave them to the wolves. Their TV show is also in jeopardy after this. But they dug their own graves.
Jan 31, 2016 5:03 PM
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so this is those finebros that the other thread is talking about, ridiculous to patent and license reaction videos to be honest, they really are just greedy and maximizing the bad effects of Capitalism which is market monopoly
Jan 31, 2016 5:26 PM

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j0x said:
so this is those finebros that the other thread is talking about, ridiculous to patent and license reaction videos to be honest, they really are just greedy and maximizing the bad effects of Capitalism which is market monopoly

Yup. They had something good going but they bit off more than they could chew. Now they're the laughing stock of YouTube. Tons of big YouTubers are making react and parody videos of them now. Here's just one of them

Jan 31, 2016 5:30 PM

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@Protaku

No, they didn't lose 10k subscribers, about 80k subscribers only today, and they're still falling. The bad PR will also affect sponsor's decisions.




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Jan 31, 2016 5:31 PM

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sounds incredibly stupid since there used to be videos like '2girls1cup reaction' way before their videos
Jan 31, 2016 5:32 PM

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This is just like when the creators of Candy Crush attempted to trademark/remove games with the words "Candy" or "Crush" in the title!



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Jan 31, 2016 5:33 PM
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Protaku said:
j0x said:
so this is those finebros that the other thread is talking about, ridiculous to patent and license reaction videos to be honest, they really are just greedy and maximizing the bad effects of Capitalism which is market monopoly

Yup. They had something good going but they bit off more than they could chew. Now they're the laughing stock of YouTube. Tons of big YouTubers are making react and parody videos of them now. Here's just one of them



thats some funny shit lol
"shout out to money"
"they are called fine bros because they gonna fine you now once they got the patent"
Jan 31, 2016 5:42 PM

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In a month everyone is going to move on and not remember shit about this incident.

These guys will still have millions of views on their videos whether they go through with the plan or not.
Jan 31, 2016 5:43 PM

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Looks like the fine bros aren't doing so fine these days.
Jan 31, 2016 6:08 PM

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Protaku said:

Yup. They had something good going but they bit off more than they could chew. Now they're the laughing stock of YouTube. Tons of big YouTubers are making react and parody videos of them now. Here's just one of them

[*yt]CRYnOPJiTaA[*yt]


thats some funny shit lol
"shout out to money"
"they are called fine bros because they gonna fine you now once they got the patent"

Yeah, that was one of my favorites haha. There's plenty more if you look for them too, and tons of simple reactions to their react world nonsense.

hoopla123 said:
In a month everyone is going to move on and not remember shit about this incident.

These guys will still have millions of views on their videos whether they go through with the plan or not.

Nah, I don't see people just "moving on". Even their videos that have nothing to do with the project are getting downvoted in storm. Fine Bros don't care if they lose some thousand subscribers but they will care if their image is tainted and lose sponsors because of it.
Jan 31, 2016 6:09 PM

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I'm loving how this is backfiring on them.
Jan 31, 2016 6:40 PM

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AllanEdgarDoge said:
This is very sad. I don't really care what the truth is... and I don't think their intention is bad...
...but they f*** up by making it so unclear and direct at the same time. You cannot say such things to the public.

That being said, people are stupid. Majority of the complaining audience has no idea what they are complaining about. This isn't something that every average Joe should rant about, having a valid opinion requires a minimum of related knowledge in fields like law (related to the situation), marketing and so on, which most of us don't have, let's be real.

People automatically calling them greedy and trashing them overall based on those videos without giving it a deeper thought make me very sad.

I've done all the research and thought needed to call them greedy.
And even before this project of there's, they were still pretty messed up if you looked at what was going on behind the scenes. And now that people have a reason to look for those dirty secrets, they're all over the internet now especially on Reddit.

Immahnoob said:
@Protaku

No, they didn't lose 10k subscribers, about 80k subscribers only today, and they're still falling. The bad PR will also affect sponsor's decisions.

Yeah 10k was just for emphasis but thanks for correcting me. They'll see the error of their mistakes soon enough if they haven't already.
Jan 31, 2016 6:41 PM

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LOL i don't want to watch their videos now.
And also, their reaction videos got old a long time ago.
Jan 31, 2016 7:02 PM

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i think they realised they screwed up

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Jan 31, 2016 7:20 PM

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The Fine Bros. in at least another month.
Jan 31, 2016 8:01 PM

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Wow so much youtube drama lately. First youtube monopolizing creative content and now this?
I like how they actually thought they had a shot at successfully pulling this off.

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Is this real? Holy shit they're losing so much its beautiful

LMFAO
Jan 31, 2016 8:02 PM

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Apparently the Finebros got the "React" trademark approved.
Jan 31, 2016 8:38 PM

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Kitsu-nee said:
That's so shitty of them, and their explaination is just ridiculous :D I don't watch them, but you can't just own things like reacting videos, that's absurd... Will they take down reactions to Boku no Pico as well :D?

The Internet doesn't forget, that's for sure, hopefully they will learn their lesson. Though with that kind of attitude and greediness I seriously doubt it...

Lots of major Youtubers are already discussing the repercussions that this will have on the Youtube community. If the Fine Bros don't backpedal on this decision then both them and Youtube will not be best friends anymore.

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[*yt]UsKu1lxWk0I[*yt]

Apparently the Finebros got the "React" trademark approved.

I've heard of that guy, he sounds like a good dude. Not sure if he could stand up to the huge legal backing behind the Fine bros though. But it's cool how the guy basically gives out his services for free.
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Not like most reaction videos are particularly good anyway, but like others said... Still kinda a dick move
Jan 31, 2016 9:35 PM

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I am copyrighting "thoughts about FineBros drama."

Jan 31, 2016 9:39 PM

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How many subs did they lose since they posted that video?

Jan 31, 2016 9:49 PM

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I hope they do now. It's fucking stupid how people are making big bucks reacting to someone elses video.

Youtube has been flooded with this crap. I hope they have the balls to continue with the plan.

Jan 31, 2016 10:22 PM
busy week =_+

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Copyright attorney reacts to The Fine Brothers trademark application:


... XD


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Jan 31, 2016 10:24 PM

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According to http://vidstatsx.com/TheFineBros/youtube-channel
They have lost nearly 120,000 Subscribers as of the 31st of January 2016..

They used to have 14 million subscribers, now they have dipped to 13 million.

fuck me.... expecting to make money and are now losing it, karma is a bitch. xD
Jan 31, 2016 11:07 PM

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No one posting Merlin or Critical? Tsk tsk




Jan 31, 2016 11:20 PM

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^No not more boring reaction channels.

I hope fine bros completes their mission *Fingers crossed*

Jan 31, 2016 11:21 PM

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@Ferocious_Oni They're not reaction channels, they're just teasing the Fine Brothers :P
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Objurgo said:
@Ferocious_Oni They're not reaction channels, they're just teasing the Fine Brothers :P


Ok, I was just talking shit. :P

I just think it's funny how some of these reaction channels lost their shitty attitudes and turned into beggars when they heard the news.

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'reaction' videos have been around since the 90s. But TheFineBros ones seem fake to me... most of the time...
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