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ItsMaz said: Yes, definitely. When you have a terrible MC and the show revolves around said MC, it can ruin what would be an otherwise great anime for me. Totally agree with this statement. Sawamura from Diamond no Ace has the most rowdy and annoying personality but the fact that he doesnt get all the screen time makes the show so enjoyable. The anime itself focuses on the (baseball) team's dynamics not the MC. But then again his attitude does lighten up the mood of the team when they are down, so it doesnt affect the show that much. Just a little brat thats all |
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MAL said: gabrielrroiz said: Yes shirou and touma manages to do that everytime that say their bs hypocritical naive ideals it makes me hate the anime even more Tsuna_Sawada27 said: I guess Eren from AOT or just characters like him such Alibaba in Mag(happens to be the same voice actor)i are annoying to me, yet the shows are still great because of the plot and other characters such as Levi, or Sinbad from Magi Z-Dante said: It ruined Mahouka for me. So I guess it kinda does. However , I still liked the Fate series despite disliking Shirou. In this case , I liked Gilgamesh and Archer to hold on to the series. So while the MC is important for a show , I think you'll have to like some of the other characters too to enjoy the show OK! So Shirou, Touma, Eren and Tatsuya have appeared. They are like the 4 most hated anime protagonists of all time. None of their shows would be half as good as they were without them. Without Tatsuya, you wouldn't get nearly as much world development. You'd get a battle shounen where the point is to get stronger and become a better fighter instead of political intrigue and the effect magic has on class hiearchy and society as a whole. Without Eren Attack on Titan would be terrible. He's so ridiculously driven he inspired the top graduates of his class to stay together for the most part. It's not a stretch to say that throughout the show he's the glue that sticks all the characters towards each other. His personalities not even all that bad. He's socially competent. His only "flaw" is that he's hot-blooded. Shirou and Touma are the same really. Their shows would be much worse if they didn't exist. Without Shirou Fate Stay Night would just be another deathgame but with fantasy elements. No one else actually brings ethics and ideals to the table. Same with Touma. No one else questions the norm. "Oh magic can't fix this." "Maybe science can." "WE NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT. WE'LL GIVE YOU ONE DAY TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION." "Uhh... Ok. Let me do that" "I can't rely on other people. This problem's too personal" "Good thing I'm extremely nosy and hate seeing injustices (big or small) play out in front of me." Index's underlying universe of Magic and Science clashing wouldn't exist without him, and he's not even all that annoying. He's socially competent. Especially since no one in his class hates him, and he has friends that he can mess around with. His only "fault" is that he's hotblooded and that he's an optimistic teenager. He doesn't want to be a nihilistic thinker like literally every villain in the series. The villains are edgemeisters while Touma's the rational optimist. @OP: Yes, the protagonist can ruin a show, but only if they're too important. Basically, I would have hated Rurouni Kenshin if I hated Kenshin. But I wouldn't hate Gatchaman if I hated Hajime. |
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AssassinWolfXE said: I think that the characters have a substantial effect on the show, having the potential to either ruin a good show, or lift a shitty one. In that, The Lead Pair amounts to 60% of the enjoyment on the part of the characters, whereas the side chars amount to 40% Itadakimasuuuu said: Yep. I'll bet I'd be really into psycho pass.... if it weren't for that shit female MC. Causing me to drop the series after4 or 5 episodes. You hate Akane? Wait till you see Psycho pass-2 I'll be waiting forever. I have absolutely 0 desire to continue the first or watch the sequel. |
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TitanAnteus said: MAL said: OK! So Shirou, Touma, Eren and Tatsuya have appeared. They are like the 4 most hated anime protagonists of all time. None of their shows would be half as good as they were without them. Without Tatsuya, you wouldn't get nearly as much world development. You'd get a battle shounen where the point is to get stronger and become a better fighter instead of political intrigue and the effect magic has on class hiearchy and society as a whole. Without Eren Attack on Titan would be terrible. He's so ridiculously driven he inspired the top graduates of his class to stay together for the most part. It's not a stretch to say that throughout the show he's the glue that sticks all the characters towards each other. His personalities not even all that bad. He's socially competent. His only "flaw" is that he's hot-blooded. Shirou and Touma are the same really. Their shows would be much worse if they didn't exist. Without Shirou Fate Stay Night would just be another deathgame but with fantasy elements. No one else actually brings ethics and ideals to the table. Same with Touma. No one else questions the norm. "Oh magic can't fix this." "Maybe science can." "WE NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT. WE'LL GIVE YOU ONE DAY TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION." "Uhh... Ok. Let me do that" "I can't rely on other people. This problem's too personal" "Good thing I'm extremely nosy and hate seeing injustices (big or small) play out in front of me." Index's underlying universe of Magic and Science clashing wouldn't exist without him, and he's not even all that annoying. He's socially competent. Especially since no one in his class hates him, and he has friends that he can mess around with. His only "fault" is that he's hotblooded and that he's an optimistic teenager. He doesn't want to be a nihilistic thinker like literally every villain in the series. The villains are edgemeisters while Touma's the rational optimist. @OP: Yes, the protagonist can ruin a show, but only if they're too important. Basically, I would have hated Rurouni Kenshin if I hated Kenshin. But I wouldn't hate Gatchaman if I hated Hajime. I would disagree with the shirou part. Well, since i mentioned shirou only from that 4, -I like Ere and Tatsuya- I cant even argue with the other 3. You said without shirou fsn would be just another killing game. But fate zero doesnt have shirou, and its way better than any fsn. -Its more popular/got better score on MAL, and generally more liked by the viewers.- And his boring, generic, shounen MC ideals, just make you want to kill yourself. So he literally adds nothing to fsn, just makes it more frustrating. Imo Kirei, and Gilgamesh were interesting enough to keep me entertained for even 500ep. -Beter than, naruto,, op, ft, bleach, KHR etc,- And there were several interesting characters -Not aside of shirou, since he wasnt one.- Even his future self, archer emiya is ok. He is a bit annoying too, but it added some interesting plot, but the present shirou is just no.. |
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lequack said: Yes it can. I dropped F/SN because I did not like shirou. Although in some cases I do like shows/manga despite not liking the MC. I did not like Kaneda from the Akira manga because I thought he was a hotheaded idiot but the manga itself was so interesting that it ended up as my favorite. TitanAnteus said: Shirou and Touma are the same really. Their shows would be much worse if they didn't exist. Without Shirou Fate Stay Night would just be another deathgame but with fantasy elements. No one else actually brings ethics and ideals to the table. I disagree with you here. I liked F/Z far better because I liked the MC more than shirou. kiritsugu is way better at bringing ideals and ethics to the anime |
SkullProX said: Imo Kirei, and Gilgamesh were interesting enough to keep me entertained for even 500ep. -Beter than, naruto,, op, ft, bleach, KHR etc 500 episodes of Gilgamesh? Even one episode of Gilgamesh makes me want to kill him with my own hands! He's like the embodiment of everything that is wrong in this world! Fortunately, he was killed in F/SN, and I don't have to watch Fate/Zero. |
TitanAnteus said: MAL said: OK! So Shirou, Touma, Eren and Tatsuya have appeared. They are like the 4 most hated anime protagonists of all time. None of their shows would be half as good as they were without them. Without Tatsuya, you wouldn't get nearly as much world development. You'd get a battle shounen where the point is to get stronger and become a better fighter instead of political intrigue and the effect magic has on class hiearchy and society as a whole. Without Eren Attack on Titan would be terrible. He's so ridiculously driven he inspired the top graduates of his class to stay together for the most part. It's not a stretch to say that throughout the show he's the glue that sticks all the characters towards each other. His personalities not even all that bad. He's socially competent. His only "flaw" is that he's hot-blooded. Shirou and Touma are the same really. Their shows would be much worse if they didn't exist. Without Shirou Fate Stay Night would just be another deathgame but with fantasy elements. No one else actually brings ethics and ideals to the table. Same with Touma. No one else questions the norm. "Oh magic can't fix this." "Maybe science can." "WE NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT. WE'LL GIVE YOU ONE DAY TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION." "Uhh... Ok. Let me do that" "I can't rely on other people. This problem's too personal" "Good thing I'm extremely nosy and hate seeing injustices (big or small) play out in front of me." Index's underlying universe of Magic and Science clashing wouldn't exist without him, and he's not even all that annoying. He's socially competent. Especially since no one in his class hates him, and he has friends that he can mess around with. His only "fault" is that he's hotblooded and that he's an optimistic teenager. He doesn't want to be a nihilistic thinker like literally every villain in the series. The villains are edgemeisters while Touma's the rational optimist. @OP: Yes, the protagonist can ruin a show, but only if they're too important. Basically, I would have hated Rurouni Kenshin if I hated Kenshin. But I wouldn't hate Gatchaman if I hated Hajime. Good lord somebody bless this man . Most people (even some of those that rated it a 10) didn't even understand the meaning behind UBW . "Hurr hurr ,MC is so uncool and boring and unrealistic .Hurr hurr ,he isn't as edgy as Kerry ." When I see people who seriously think that Kerry is better written than Shirou I get pissed .That shows that the point of the story went over their heads completely .Not like it's completely their fault tho .I suppose Ufotable is partly to blame for that .But it's still extremely possible to appreciate his character even without reading that 50 hour porn game . I agree with Eren and Touma too (though not that the shows would be terrible) .Eren's hotblooded nature isn't even something that pisses me off .Considering that his reactions are perfectly natural considering what happened to him earlier in his life .Touma isn't bad either even though I thought I'd hate his archetype . |
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gabrielrroiz said: lequack said: Yes it can. I dropped F/SN because I did not like shirou. Although in some cases I do like shows/manga despite not liking the MC. I did not like Kaneda from the Akira manga because I thought he was a hotheaded idiot but the manga itself was so interesting that it ended up as my favorite. I disagree with you here. I liked F/Z far better because I liked the MC more than shirou. kiritsugu is way better at bringing ideals and ethics to the anime Yep. I disliked him too, but at least his ideals were more realistic. He knew that he can't save everyone without sacrifice>kill a few, to save many. + Kiritsugo had less screen time than shirou, so it was more bearable. flannan said: SkullProX said: Imo Kirei, and Gilgamesh were interesting enough to keep me entertained for even 500ep. -Beter than, naruto,, op, ft, bleach, KHR etc 500 episodes of Gilgamesh? Even one episode of Gilgamesh makes me want to kill him with my own hands! He's like the embodiment of everything that is wrong in this world! Fortunately, he was killed in F/SN, and I don't have to watch Fate/Zero. I agree with Gil in a few things he said. Tho the way he wanted to execute his ideas was a bit extreme. +He is not even evil, even on the type-moon wiki he is under the chaotic good category. Which means he is not even evil. And I can see that tbh. |
lequack said: EvilDragon16 said: Good lord somebody bless this man . Most people (even some of those that rated it a 10) didn't even understand the meaning behind UBW . "Hurr hurr ,MC is so uncool and boring and unrealistic .Hurr hurr ,he isn't as edgy as Kerry ." When I see people who seriously think that Kerry is better written than Shirou I get pissed .That shows that the point of the story went over their heads completely .Not like it's completely their fault tho .I suppose Ufotable is partly to blame for that .But it's still extremely possible to appreciate his character even without reading that 50 hour porn game . I think you might be a bit biased because you have read the VN. As a filthy anime only watcher, I think that F/Z was more entertaining. Shirou might be a better written character but if he annoys the viewer then no matter how complex he is as a character he will still be a bad character. Blaming a viewer for not liking a character is stupid since it is the anime's fault for not portraying the character better. Also if shirou (anime only) is as good as you say he is then he wouldn't have so many people disliking him. I started liking him before reading that thing . I didn't even like it so much .The first route was boring af the second was gold but I had already seen the anime and the third had a heroine that I hated . Not to mention that I hate VNs as a medium . Another thing is that I said that Ufotable is partly at fault for that . EvilDragon16 said: Not like it's completely their fault tho .I suppose Ufotable is partly to blame for that . It's completely possible to pick up the pieces with only the anime .I get annoyed when people bash him even though they haven't put so much effort in understanding anything . And I never blamed anyone .I just said that I get annoyed . |
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EvilDragon16 said: lequack said: I think you might be a bit biased because you have read the VN. As a filthy anime only watcher, I think that F/Z was more entertaining. Shirou might be a better written character but if he annoys the viewer then no matter how complex he is as a character he will still be a bad character. Blaming a viewer for not liking a character is stupid since it is the anime's fault for not portraying the character better. Also if shirou (anime only) is as good as you say he is then he wouldn't have so many people disliking him. I started liking him before reading that thing . I didn't even like it so much .The first route was boring af the second was gold but I had already seen the anime and the third had a heroine that I hated . Not to mention that I hate VNs as a medium . Another thing is that I said that Ufotable is partly at fault for that . EvilDragon16 said: Not like it's completely their fault tho .I suppose Ufotable is partly to blame for that . It's completely possible to pick up the pieces with only the anime .I get annoyed when people bash him even though they haven't put so much effort in understanding anything . And I never blamed anyone .I just said that I get annoyed . So, you didn't like route 3, because you hated the heroine. But you argue with people who don't like the anime, because they hate shirou? Nice. Now that's what I call biased. xD |
lequack said: EvilDragon16 said: It's completely possible to pick up the pieces with only the anime .I get annoyed when people bash him even though they haven't put so much effort in understanding anything . If you have to put effort into watching an anime to understand it then you are better off not watching it imo. Anime is a source of entertainment and not something that you need to study in order to appreciate. Anyway different people like different things and there is no point in being annoyed about something like this. Yes, that's why I don't get it when people try to argue that the LN of an anime is good. I mean, i won't rate an anime based on how good it's LN was. Why should I? I will rate what the anime could offer, if it's not as good as the LN, it means that they failed to adapt it properly, and it deserves a low score. Also I doubt I would like shirou, even if I read the LN. |
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| @SkullProX At least I understood the heroine .In anycase even if I'm hypocritical it doesn't change much . @Lequack Funny you should say that .There are many shows you need to put some thought into to enjoy .You might as well say that Evangelion/Texhnolyze lovers need to lighten up since they're watching anime wrong .Not to mention that the themes covered can be enjoyable to watch/read about .UBW doesn't even require as much thinking . In any case ,I don't go out ranting against people who didn't understand what they watched .Whether or not I get annoyed by stuff like that doesn't really matter . |
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| ^LOL What were we arguing/talking about again ? Why are you taking this off point ? I'm simply saying that Shirou-haters give funny reasons for hating him even though they barely understand anything .Eevn though they don't try to understand anything . Also UBW is a bad anime ?Zero is higher but it's rated 8.48 Forget that .I didn't read your post well . |
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EvilDragon16 said: ^LOL What were we arguing/talking about again ? Why are you taking this off point ? I'm simply saying that Shirou-haters give funny reasons for hating him even though they barely understand anything .Eevn though they don't try to understand anything . Also UBW is a bad anime ?Zero is higher but it's rated 8.48 Forget that .I didn't read your post well . There is a difference between Tex/NGE and UBW though. Those shows (haven't watched Tex however) takes a more psychological approach and is rather thought provoking, while the anime of UBW doesn't try to do that. There is a major difference in what the shows you mentioned and UBW is trying to show and the audience they are targetting. I don't get why you are so pissed off about anime-onlies hating Shirou without understanding anything though, if they don't like him then so be it. The anime Shirou is portrayed badly, that is just how it is, if they don't want to "analyze" his action, that doesn't mean they don't have the right to dislike him. |
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tobiuo-chan said: ItsMaz said: Yes, definitely. When you have a terrible MC and the show revolves around said MC, it can ruin what would be an otherwise great anime for me. Totally agree with this statement. Sawamura from Diamond no Ace has the most rowdy and annoying personality but the fact that he doesnt get all the screen time makes the show so enjoyable. The anime itself focuses on the (baseball) team's dynamics not the MC. But then again his attitude does lighten up the mood of the team when they are down, so it doesnt affect the show that much. Just a little brat thats all Haha ok I'm very glad you brought up Sawamura because that's exactly who I thought of when I read this post. I found him extremely annoying when I first started watching Diamond no Ace, but...then...erm...Miyuki Kazuya showed up and I decided I'd better keep watching. And when Chris came along I was hooked. You're absolutely right about the entire team dynamic taking center stage. Sawamura hardly even seems like the MC much of the time. But here's the thing. All of a sudden, a couple dozen or so episodes later, Sawamura actually grew on me. Either he developed enough as a character, or I just grew used to him (like some people I've met in real life haha); it was probably a little bit of both. And I found myself happily laughing at him and rooting for him. So I guess the point I'm trying to make here is, characters grow - maybe if we don't like them in the beginning, we should give them a chance to. Maybe not like 100 episodes worth of a chance but...Hahahaha Anyway. Just wanted to add this to the thread as food for thought. |
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gabrielrroiz said: lequack said: Yes it can. I dropped F/SN because I did not like shirou. Although in some cases I do like shows/manga despite not liking the MC. I did not like Kaneda from the Akira manga because I thought he was a hotheaded idiot but the manga itself was so interesting that it ended up as my favorite. I disagree with you here. I liked F/Z far better because I liked the MC more than shirou. kiritsugu is way better at bringing ideals and ethics to the anime Kiritsugu? Really!? Hell no. Shirou's change into Archer brought about a worthwhile thought provoking idea of justice. Kiritsugu is just an Edgier version of Shirou in every timeline he exists in except he fails.... every time.... because he always gives up on his beliefs. He's half-assed so you can't even look at his ethical actions. He doesn't even represent them. |
TitanAnteus said: gabrielrroiz said: kiritsugu is way better at bringing ideals and ethics to the anime Kiritsugu? Really!? Hell no. Shirou's change into Archer brought about a worthwhile thought provoking idea of justice. Kiritsugu is just an Edgier version of Shirou in every timeline he exists in except he fails.... every time.... because he always gives up on his beliefs. He's half-assed so you can't even look at his ethical actions. He doesn't even represent them. Every timeline? There is only 1 in fate zero. And the LN got nothing to do with the anime. |
Snappynator said: EvilDragon16 said: ^LOL What were we arguing/talking about again ? Why are you taking this off point ? I'm simply saying that Shirou-haters give funny reasons for hating him even though they barely understand anything .Eevn though they don't try to understand anything . Also UBW is a bad anime ?Zero is higher but it's rated 8.48 Forget that .I didn't read your post well . There is a difference between Tex/NGE and UBW though. Those shows (haven't watched Tex however) takes a more psychological approach and is rather thought provoking, while the anime of UBW doesn't try to do that. There is a major difference in what the shows you mentioned and UBW is trying to show and the audience they are targetting. I don't get why you are so pissed off about anime-onlies hating Shirou without understanding anything though, if they don't like him then so be it. The anime Shirou is portrayed badly, that is just how it is, if they don't want to "analyze" his action, that doesn't mean they don't have the right to dislike him. Pissed is a strong word . I won't get pissed if I see someone who rated UBW lower than Zero (most obvious reason for that being Shirou) I will get pissed though ,if I see someone bashing Shirou even though he barely understands anything .It's annoying especially since everything you need to grab him with is in the anime .If you say "I don't like UBW beacuse of Shirou" or "Shirou is annoing" I won't get triggered . If someone should say "Shirou is a crappy MC that ruined UBW and has some foolish trains of thought " then I'll get triggered .Especially since the point of the story just flew entirely over their head and so they're spouting some good quality crap right there . I also don't have a problem with anime-onlies .I didn't like that much VN anyways . |
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EvilDragon16 said: Snappynator said: There is a difference between Tex/NGE and UBW though. Those shows (haven't watched Tex however) takes a more psychological approach and is rather thought provoking, while the anime of UBW doesn't try to do that. There is a major difference in what the shows you mentioned and UBW is trying to show and the audience they are targetting. I don't get why you are so pissed off about anime-onlies hating Shirou without understanding anything though, if they don't like him then so be it. The anime Shirou is portrayed badly, that is just how it is, if they don't want to "analyze" his action, that doesn't mean they don't have the right to dislike him. Pissed is a strong word . I won't get pissed if I see someone who rated UBW lower than Zero (most obvious reason for that being Shirou) I will get pissed though ,if I see someone bashing Shirou even though he barely understands anything .It's annoying especially since everything you need to grab him with is in the anime .If you say "I don't like UBW beacuse of Shirou" or "Shirou is annoing" I won't get triggered . If someone should say "Shirou is a crappy MC that ruined UBW and has some foolish trains of thought " then I'll get triggered .Especially since the point of the story just flew entirely over their head and so they're spouting some good quality crap right there . I also don't have a problem with anime-onlies .I didn't like that much VN anyways . Well he DID ruin UNW. I seriously don't get you tbh. He is a simple generic good-guy character. Thats it. But he is even more annoying than those battle shounen mains. Which doesn't fit in the fate series at all... >ruins the anime. And you always come with this "noone understands shirou" thing. But you never explain what should we understand? And why? Because there is nothing to understand at all.. |
| ^ The thing is ,you see ,he didn't ruin UBW . The point of UBW wouldn't exist if not for him being him so that doesn't make much sense you see . Regarding explaining Shirou you can ask me that on my profile .I don't want to start filling this thread with why he's better written than Kerry since I'll totally look insane and overly fanboy (and I'm already doing a good job of that now) . |
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SkullProX said: Wow... Is durara's MC that bad? I was planning to watch it, but if he is that annoying type then.. idk xD Oh he's not annoying; he's just......really boring. XD Not intolerably so though. And he doesn't get that much screentime anyway because there are SO many characters. Watch Durarara. It's a pretty fun ride. |
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SkullProX said: Wow... Is durara's MC that bad? I was planning to watch it, but if he is that annoying type then.. idk xD He's OK. He's just boring. The theme they were trying to go with, is that even normal people aren't really normal, but they didn't execute it right since he's not relevant. PraetorPat said: Aye can we talk about the worst MC like the one from Chaos Dragon. Hated him so much that I dropped the show midway through it. Chaos Dragon's MC didn't ruin it. Chaos Dragon was just terrible. Guilty Crown has one of the worst main characters in anime history. The only other worse lead characters are Yume from Mirai Nikki and that one kid from Deadman Wonderland. Edgefest shows with teenage MCs usually have shitty MCs. |
PolarKoala said: I'm watching Fate/Zero and I hate Kiritsugu but I still like the show, so not always, I guess. Why do all the good characters in the show get the short end of the stick? Cuz that's the nature of the story . A grimdark ending is already guaranteed since there's UBW and Fsn . Shame that you don't like it tho . |
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PraetorPat said: Aye can we talk about the worst MC like the one from Chaos Dragon. Hated him so much that I dropped the show midway through it. TitanAnteus said: Chaos Dragon's MC didn't ruin it. Chaos Dragon was just terrible. Guilty Crown has one of the worst main characters in anime history. The only other worse lead characters are Yume from Mirai Nikki and that one kid from Deadman Wonderland. Edgefest shows with teenage MCs usually have shitty MCs. He was the worst part for me in Chaos Dragon but for Guilty Crown I didnt the MC as much but |
"I wish I was sober to feel the pain So many dark days I can’t explain" ----- -----My Sigs MAL Interview |
SkullProX said: I agree with Gil in a few things he said. Tho the way he wanted to execute his ideas was a bit extreme. +He is not even evil, even on the type-moon wiki he is under the chaotic good category. Which means he is not even evil. And I can see that tbh. He bribed the in-game status screen to get it put there. (It's a joke. But that piece of info got to his profile in the wiki from his profile in the VN) Anyway, he's somewhere between Lawful Outdated and Lawful Evil, depending on how much you like him. |
| @Chiibi @TitanAnteus Alright, boring is fine, untill its not annoying, and if there are many charas, then its fine, thanks. :) Well, at chaos dragon... the MC was annoying, but on the other hand the anime was terrible too, so he couldn't ruin something which was already bad.xD |
Tsuna_Sawada27 said: I guess Eren from AOT or just characters like him such Alibaba in Mag(happens to be the same voice actor)i are annoying to me, yet the shows are still great because of the plot and other characters such as Levi, or Sinbad from Magi I hated Eren when I first watched Attack on Titan because he was an unlikable, holier-than-thou jerk who basically treated the other characters like garbage (especially Mikasa). The overdramatic walking cliche fortunately couldn't prevent me from enjoying this series but it could've been better without him. |
NichiyaMagimi said: Hell fucking yes!! The only reason I dropped Death Note is because Light was too much of an asshole. I don't like Light either and also dropped the show. It's way too hard to root for someone who has thrown away his humanity like that. |
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