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Jan 14, 2016 6:19 AM

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Izumi sucking that finger was hot, I'd love to get bruises if she can heal them just by licking. Also, nice trivia. Comedy was meh this episode. Not fond of Minase's spell at all, minus points for her character.
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this is what I called entettainment


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Jan 14, 2016 7:34 AM

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QWERTYFish25 said:
I did state that's what sells and/or what they like. Not my cup of tea. I didn't say I was gonna write them an open letter explaining my distaste. Much like how they like the work they put in for whatever ends I'm not particularly a fan of this so far. My "wish" is just wishful thinking.

What?
You literally said.
QWERTYFish25 said:
Really wish the industry would grove out of this shit. But it [i[is[/i] probably what makes them a big chunk of their money while getting away with less work.

As if your tastes are objectively better than others. It's why I called you uppity.

Also, less work?

Are we watching the same show?
DreamingBeats said:
this episode pretty much confirms my initial impressions from episode 1.
seems like the company making the series desperately wants to appeal to the otaku.

You know what other shows are appealing to otaku just THIS season?
Grimgar, and Shoujo-tachi. Appealing to otaku doesn't necessarily mean the show's going to be bad.

Heck the FS/N series appeals to otaku. Prisma Illya especially.

Doesn't mean the show is bad though.
Jan 14, 2016 7:37 AM

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This anime is terrible, 90% fan service and I'll most likely drop it.
But +1 for that adorable summon.
Jan 14, 2016 7:50 AM

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Shuichi2 said:
This anime is terrible, 90% fan service and I'll most likely drop it.
But +1 for that adorable summon.
yet u watched Free with 90% man fan service
Jan 14, 2016 8:13 AM

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Chiibi said:
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Is Reina's VA the same as Onodera's? The y sound alike.

Heh, no. Onodoodoo is Kana Hanazawa. Reina is Saori Hayami. (Shinoa and Shirayuki)

I haven't watched many male-targeted shows with male mc's that don't get hated on.

Well um....there's....
......um......
.......UM........
.....haha this is kind of disturbing.....

Kirito and Tatsuya? But then the FANS hate them.......so......can't win.


I don't think the people doing it even realize they're doing it.
The fans who hate Kirito and Tatsuya don't even know what it is about the show they're watching they like.

If you hate Tatsuya, you're forgetting that his insane skill levels actually prevent the show from turning into a battle shounen, and makes it easy for the show to focus on the world and how magic works while looking at the social and political effects a world of that kind of magic has on people.

If you hate Kirito, then you're forgetting that his overall social and gaming competence allowed the show to develop other characters, while still making the games he's in FEEL like fun.

Only other people who hate these characters are the self-inserters who can't accept an MC being different from them, and their opinion's meaningless.

On Phantom's note, if you hate Haruhiko, then you either just plain old hate male MCs, which there's nothing I could say that could convince you, or you have a hate boner. He's done nothing but be interesting and likeable throughout the show so far. When the show's over though, we'll find out what kind of fans KyoAni really have.

mattoyol91 said:

Free! is fanservice except no lewd body contact between two different sexes. Had you ever see boys out there made bodily contact with any girls whatsoever in Free!? The answer is NO, but this anime does. Reina lews licking proved it even though she didn't meant it.

Also, I don't recall any sensual touch of own bodies in Free!, just like Mai in this anime.

Free had them shirtless and in boxer shorts for like half the anime didn't it? It also doesn't have any romance right, so all the fanservice is quite literally aimless.

Phantom World barely has any nudity. It's just suggestive posing, and some of the fanservice shows that there might be romance so it's not aimless. Haruhiko probably fell in love with Reina this episode.
Jan 14, 2016 8:19 AM

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mattoyol91 said:
moodie said:
yet u watched Free with 90% man fan service


Free! is fanservice except no lewd body contact between two different sexes. Had you ever see boys out there made bodily contact with any girls whatsoever in Free!? The answer is NO, but this anime does. Reina lews licking proved it even though she didn't meant it.

Also, I don't recall any sensual touch of own bodies in Free!, just like Mai in this anime.

So? At least here it is done in entertaining manner rather than just some guys stripping 5 times per episode. I don't get how boobs make this anime worse, heck it makes it way better because you shouldn't watch such a LN schlock for its 'amazing and intricate' story.
Jan 14, 2016 8:24 AM

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Episode that has some good ideas, which are serious and on which we can reflect, but also many situations that trivialize the guesswork exposed to make credible the plot, another evil that pervades this anime series (depending on how you think)It is the fanservice. Drawings and animations are great as always, ditto the sets.
Jan 14, 2016 8:31 AM

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I noticed that I tend to space out whenever the main guy says more than one sentence at a time.
He's so boring!

Yet more fanservice.
Not as bad as last episode at least, but still...
Jan 14, 2016 8:36 AM

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Mai has a mole on her left inner thigh...


>main character explaining about stuff
>viewers only paying attention at the girls thigh

Lol. That's what I was going for. If they didn't want it to be noticed, they wouldn't have put it there. ;)
Jan 14, 2016 8:42 AM

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mattoyol91 said:
moodie said:
yet u watched Free with 90% man fan service


Free! is fanservice except no lewd body contact between two different sexes. Had you ever see boys out there made bodily contact with any girls whatsoever in Free!? The answer is NO, but this anime does. Reina lews licking proved it even though she didn't meant it.

Also, I don't recall any sensual touch of own bodies in Free!, just like Mai in this anime.
are we 5?

this is why kids shouldn't be watching anime

can't handle a bit of lewdness go watch rated G anime
Jan 14, 2016 8:42 AM

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Really generic show so far but man I'm a sucker for kyoani's character designs. Mai is best girl; fight me.
Jan 14, 2016 8:45 AM

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Just a little bit less of fanservice and this would have been perfect. That finger sucking part though :3
Jan 14, 2016 8:49 AM

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moodie said:
are we 5?
this is why kids shouldn't be watching anime
can't handle a bit of lewdness go watch rated G anime
Are we 14?
Most people prefer to watch anime that aren't made to jerk it off while your parents aren't looking.
Jan 14, 2016 9:02 AM

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Me, and lots of other anime fans. This kind of details can make a world feel alive, and create a deep sense of immersion.


I feel immersed in Phantom's world when I watch it....so we'll just have to disagree. Things don't have to be moving at EVERY moment, especially when you're trying to follow what the characters are explaining to you.

I'm pretty sure your brain wouldn't have exploded if the staff had put a little more efforts in this anime, just like they did in some of their other works. Seriously, they could have make something really good-looking with tons of nice details, but they went for the minimum effort policy (according to their standards, though, which means that this show is still pretty nice), at least in the second episode. You may argue that nobody notices these details, and you couldn't be more wrong. I'd even say that even if you don't notice them, your mind do, at least at some level, a level which tends to grow the more you watch anime and develop an interest for animation.

Just a brief aside: anime is a visual medium (sound is really important too, but whatever), "if you want to say something or express an emotion, show it through visuals", you know, that kind of stuff. Not everything has to be said with the animation / composition / whatever, but all of these elements should still support it. And it just makes your anime more beautiful and impressive! Unfortunately, I didn't see such efforts in Phantom World.
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Jan 14, 2016 9:06 AM

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This show would be much more enjoyable without all of the unnecessary fan service. The unrealistic movement of the 'boobs' and accidental 'falls' are just a big joke and take a lot away from the actual story. It's nice animation but I find myself face palming through half of the series that I don't even see it.
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paraze said:
Chiibi said:


I feel immersed in Phantom's world when I watch it....so we'll just have to disagree. Things don't have to be moving at EVERY moment, especially when you're trying to follow what the characters are explaining to you.

I'm pretty sure your brain wouldn't have exploded if the staff had put a little more efforts in this anime, just like they did in some of their other works. Seriously, they could have make something really good-looking with tons of nice details, but they went for the minimum effort policy (according to their standards, though, which means that this show is still pretty nice), at least in the second episode. You may argue that nobody notices these details, and you couldn't be more wrong. I'd even say that even if you don't notice them, your mind do, at least at some level, a level which tends to grow the more you watch anime and develop an interest for animation.

Just a brief aside: anime is a visual medium (sound is really important too, but whatever), "if you want to say something or express an emotion, show it through visuals", you know, that kind of stuff. Not everything has to be said with the animation / composition / whatever, but all of these elements should still support it. And it just makes your anime more beautiful and impressive! Unfortunately, I didn't see such efforts in Phantom World.


Dude, I don't care. Can we move on? lol The only time I notice things like this is when we are shown a cheering crowd and not a single person is moving. That bugs me....but I handwave it as "low budget" and forget about it two seconds afterwards.

Izumi Reina, why would you suck somebody another person's blood? Not normal >.<

Because it's hot. XD Actually this trope is REALLY normal, especially if you watch shoujo, where normally the boy is the one doing the sucking.
Here is the scenario:

<Heroine is either cooking or sewing or another activity where she can hurt her finger.>

Girl: Ouch!
Guy: Are you hurt? Let me see!
Girl: I'm sorry.....ah it hurts!
Guy: Man, I told you to be careful! You're such a klutz.
*puts her finger in his mouth*
Girl: *deep blush* ..........[_____]-kun.......
<sparkles and bubbles fill the room>

Lmao. Realistically speaking, it's kind of gross (for the sucker, I would think!) and it certainly isn't sanitary. Reina is an exception if she actually has healing powers.
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EratiK said:
moodie said:
are we 5?
this is why kids shouldn't be watching anime
can't handle a bit of lewdness go watch rated G anime
Are we 14?
Most people prefer to watch anime that aren't made to jerk it off while your parents aren't looking.
i jerked off to this animu
does it matter anyway?
Jan 14, 2016 9:44 AM

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Those fanservice though 10/10 KyoAni really founds a way, so we get to know more about Minase including her sonic abilities,love the way she uses her parole though lol. Other than that I bet the plot's gonna move next episode.
Jan 14, 2016 10:24 AM

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Still enjoyable but all those mini gags are inserted randomly and it makes the characters and the story very superficial.
Jan 14, 2016 10:26 AM

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Minase speaking before attack is annoying.

Jan 14, 2016 10:35 AM

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No one does fanservice like KyoAni.
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Jan 14, 2016 10:37 AM

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Chiibi said:
paraze said:

I'm pretty sure your brain wouldn't have exploded if the staff had put a little more efforts in this anime, just like they did in some of their other works. Seriously, they could have make something really good-looking with tons of nice details, but they went for the minimum effort policy (according to their standards, though, which means that this show is still pretty nice), at least in the second episode. You may argue that nobody notices these details, and you couldn't be more wrong. I'd even say that even if you don't notice them, your mind do, at least at some level, a level which tends to grow the more you watch anime and develop an interest for animation.

Just a brief aside: anime is a visual medium (sound is really important too, but whatever), "if you want to say something or express an emotion, show it through visuals", you know, that kind of stuff. Not everything has to be said with the animation / composition / whatever, but all of these elements should still support it. And it just makes your anime more beautiful and impressive! Unfortunately, I didn't see such efforts in Phantom World.


Dude, I don't care. Can we move on? lol The only time I notice things like this is when we are shown a cheering crowd and not a single person is moving. That bugs me....but I handwave it as "low budget" and forget about it two seconds afterwards.

I explained to you that some people tend to care about these details, and why (the most interesting part), and you responded "lol i dont care xD". You could have realize few things and stuff, but... no. Great discussion. I could argue about how blaming the budget for this kind of problem is sometimes irrelevant, but nobody cares about that right? ^^'

It's ok to don't care about it, especially if you don't notice it, but at the end, good visuals can make the difference (Evangelion looks waaaay better than Phantom World for example, and it's partly thanks to its visuals if NGE is great).

I think it's a shame to applaud an anime for its visuals when the staff does the minimum, though. Well, there are an interesting setting, philosophical reflections about illusions and reality, BOOOOOOOOOBS, harem, some characters seem to have an interesting backstory, girls are nice... so no problem I guess.

No wonder the industry has hit a dead end, like Hideaki Anno and many others said. Well, some anime fans have few problems with this show, since it's only currently #2421, there is still hope.
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Jan 14, 2016 10:38 AM

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EratiK said:
Are we 14?
Most people prefer to watch anime that aren't made to jerk it off while your parents aren't looking.


thank you. sadly, the anime companies need to appeal to the otaku to be able to sell discs and keep their business afloat. rare is the case where we get an anime where there isn't a blatant fanservice for the sake of fanservice. (that probably also explains why we rarely get shoujo / josei anime, as those tend to have less fanservice for boys)
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Jan 14, 2016 10:50 AM

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Came here after watching Melonpan's vid. lul
Jan 14, 2016 10:50 AM

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Mai is such a good waifu
Lead me out of the dark,bishounen space Jesus.
Jan 14, 2016 11:05 AM

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Pretty good episode, however it doesn't have much of an identity on whether it wants to be funny or serious
Jan 14, 2016 11:24 AM

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this show is so wacky, i don't even...
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Jan 14, 2016 11:45 AM

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The excessive explanation is pretty childish. World-building should be done more naturally...

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ak47 said:
The excessive explanation is pretty childish. World-building should be done more naturally...

not childish, but can be seen as a sign of a badly written story.
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DreamingBeats said:
ak47 said:
The excessive explanation is pretty childish. World-building should be done more naturally...

not childish, but can be seen as a sign of a badly written story.


or a matter of opinion

"excessive explanations" is very much in line with the mc's useless information character trait.
Jan 14, 2016 12:22 PM

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moodie said:
Shuichi2 said:
This anime is terrible, 90% fan service and I'll most likely drop it.
But +1 for that adorable summon.
yet u watched Free with 90% man fan service


Lol are you serious. Did Free have dudes rubbing their crotches to power up or sucking people's fingers?
Jan 14, 2016 12:27 PM

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Im only in this for the animation/Mai's design and Uchida Maaya, but God have mercy the story is boring, the characters are boring.
Making the MC look like an idiot when he's the one who has knowledge, something tells me this will go on till the last episode, I wouldnt blame the MC if he goes evil one day. Mai has a fcking terrible personality so far, belittling the MC like she owns him, I like her design but wtf is up with her attitude.
Jan 14, 2016 12:53 PM

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I'm enjoying this far more than I should.
Jan 14, 2016 12:58 PM

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It has a Lum-esque character in a harem girl outfit. I can't not watch.
Jan 14, 2016 2:02 PM

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*sigh* Kyoani, come on.

Jan 14, 2016 2:56 PM

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when reina calls with "ichijo-kun" remembering me to onodera haha
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Chiibi said:
I already ship HaruxReina. Considering she is a shy character and just decided to suck his finger influences this even more so.


Me too ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Reina best girl
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I notice the current trend that if you don't like a same-gender relationship regardless of what the reason might be, people would demonize you as if you're Hitler reincarnation or something.
Jan 14, 2016 4:27 PM

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Cr7_vi_Britannia said:
KyoAni, you can be 100% sure that the anime will have one of those features:

- big editions and addition original content (Addition of fanservice, yuribaits or fujobyte) in relation to its source material.
- fanservice
- fujobaits or yuribaits.

Clannad was the last anime KyoAni, who did not followed this pattern of characteristic.



Lol@Autist.

OT: Reina is best gril.

I really like this show.
Jan 14, 2016 4:41 PM

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TitanAnteus said:
QWERTYFish25 said:
I did state that's what sells and/or what they like. Not my cup of tea. I didn't say I was gonna write them an open letter explaining my distaste. Much like how they like the work they put in for whatever ends I'm not particularly a fan of this so far. My "wish" is just wishful thinking.

What?
You literally said.
QWERTYFish25 said:
Really wish the industry would grove out of this shit. But it [i[is[/i] probably what makes them a big chunk of their money while getting away with less work.

As if your tastes are objectively better than others. It's why I called you uppity.

Also, less work?

Are we watching the same show?
Never said my tastes were, bro.
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The indulgence in cliches is something else, there's not a hint of imagination to be found. It's pretty bad so far.
Jan 14, 2016 4:46 PM

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This was fun, and we're getting some plot it seems?

Fanservice was nice, those girls are cute.

Man I lol'd when Haruhiko got tossed here and there.
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QWERTYFish25 said:
TitanAnteus said:

What?
You literally said.

As if your tastes are objectively better than others. It's why I called you uppity.

Also, less work?

Are we watching the same show?
Never said my tastes were, bro.

Grow out of this shit?
This shit?
Shit?

You're not even trying bro.
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The indulgence in cliches is something else, there's not a hint of imagination to be found. It's pretty bad so far.


I can't think of another anime where they go into perception = reality like Phantom World.

I can't think of many where the protagonist lives alone and the author doesn't use it to get a bunch of people to move in with him. They use it instead to show solitude.

I also can't think of many anime that feel fantastic while still feeling close to real. Rakudai and Asterisk don't feel like they take place in our world, Dimension W is supposed to be close, but it's too fantastic. Phantom World could probably be a parallel world to ours.

Honestly think your expectations are too high. Not every season needs a Death Parade, or Gangsta.

The show isn't trying to be deep.
It's not trying to be shallow either.

It's in the middle, and it wants to be fun like Tiger and Bunny.
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TitanAnteus said:
QWERTYFish25 said:
Never said my tastes were, bro.

Grow out of this shit?
This shit?
Shit?

You're not even trying bro.


Good eyes on you. Enjoy your program, nothing wrong with that there. Doesn't gravitate to me, dunno why. Actually I had this problem with Chunni as well While I got through the 1st season with ease I don't even remember if I finished the 2nd.
Jan 14, 2016 5:07 PM

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Minase's chant is annoying af, and her "sonic scream" shit sounds worse than a highschool girl trying to fake an orgasm for the first time.
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m-i-c-h-a-e-l said:
Minase's chant is annoying af, and her "sonic scream" shit sounds worse than a highschool girl trying to fake an orgasm for the first time.

It it was like a bootleg D1 from RaXephon (did I spell that right?)
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TitanAnteus said:
I can't think of another anime where they go into perception = reality like Phantom World.
This is exceedingly common in fantasy. I venture you to watch more anime, or fantasy in general.

I can't think of many where the protagonist lives alone and the author doesn't use it to get a bunch of people to move in with him.
Seeing a MC at his home and his parents not being away is actually less common.

They use it instead to show solitude.
No, they don't. The protagonist shows no signs of feeling isolated, nor is there any kind of emphasis on solitude - we've only seen him alone in the house for about 20 seconds IIRC. He even has otaku merchandise, likely a further sign to his lack of personality and the aim to make self-insertion easier for the intended audience.

I also can't think of many anime that feel fantastic while still feeling close to real.
That's clearly demonstrative of the lack of actual world building outside including Phantoms. Urban fantasy is not rare in anime.

Honestly think your expectations are too high. Not every season needs a Death Parade, or Gangsta.
I had no expectations.

It's not trying to be shallow either.
It's failing so far.
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QWERTYFish25 said:
Actually I had this problem with Chunni as well While I got through the 1st season with ease I don't even remember if I finished the 2nd.


thanks for reminding me to finish 2nd season of chuuni. stopped midway and don't even remember why. :p
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TonyTheme said:
TitanAnteus said:
I can't think of another anime where they go into perception = reality like Phantom World.
This is exceedingly common in fantasy. I venture you to watch more anime, or fantasy in general.

I can't think of many where the protagonist lives alone and the author doesn't use it to get a bunch of people to move in with him.
Seeing a MC at his home and his parents not being away is actually less common.

They use it instead to show solitude.
No, they don't. The protagonist shows no signs of feeling isolated, nor is there any kind of emphasis on solitude - we've only seen him alone in the house for about 20 seconds IIRC. He even has otaku merchandise, likely a further sign to his lack of personality and the aim to make self-insertion easier for the intended audience.

I also can't think of many anime that feel fantastic while still feeling close to real.
That's clearly demonstrative of the lack of actual world building outside including Phantoms. Urban fantasy is not rare in anime.

Honestly think your expectations are too high. Not every season needs a Death Parade, or Gangsta.
I had no expectations.

It's not trying to be shallow either.
It's failing so far.


1)I'm thinking of all the anime I watched, and I honestly can't see what you said as common as that common.

2)Not, less? So MCs parents are away from home are more common right?
Yes, I agree, that an MC living by himself is extremely common at the start of whatever show you're watching. People usually move in with him when that happens though. Seeing an MC live alone with no prospects of that changing is strange.

3)I don't think your actually looking at his character. I think you just want to hate him, so you're finding reasons to hate him. After everyone left, they bothered to cut the audio completely and show a scene where he's typing all alone in his room. Why bother include that if they're not trying to say, "look at how things are for him usually!"

Also, don't you have a better understanding of how he got his personality now? He doesn't read as a hobby like normal people. His whole house is practically just books, so reading is more to him than that. It's on the level of dependence.

Also man I hate this new meme where everyone has a lack of a personality unless they're following some stupid trope or something. The way he approached Reina doesn't show a lack of personality. Him getting carried away with explanations doesn't show a lack of personality. Him not even thinking to invite Koito to their group doesn't show a lack of personality. Him worrying about staying useful to Mai doesn't show a lack of personality.

It goes to show, that if you have in your mind you hate something, you're going to hate it no matter what.

4)Shallow shows are shows like Valkyrie Drive, or Seiken Tsukai no Bladedance. Honestly, the world they're in interests me, and the characters that have been introduced interest me. I want to know what makes Haruhiko, Reina, and Mai tick. Why they have the personalities they do. I especially want to know more about Reina's home life. If you can't even muster that level of interest, I personally think your tastes are too bourgeois.
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Nov 27, 3:47 AM

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Stark700 - Feb 17, 2016

172 by Alvie48xi »»
Nov 27, 3:02 AM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
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