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| Yup, some guy brought up in the last thread the theory of suicide for life insurance, right on the money. All the diagnoses being thrown around made me alt tab a few times lol, learn these new things every day I guess. I'm pretty sure everyone can figure out that the long-haired guy plays a bigger role in this series. Sakurako's transformation music/scene will never get old, just so much hype when it happens |
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| I knew it, this was all a hoax when it involved around the guy and the stock market. Just an fyi, a lot of people who invest in the stock market or are involved in the stock market, when the stock market crashes some commit suicide; look it up. Anyways, who is the guy with the suit and the hat? And why did Sakurako say, "just give me a little more time"? The world may never know |
| Thought the dialogue and the presentation of the facts/evidence was pretty on point, but Sakuroko is becoming a bit too Mary Sue for me. Jesus Christ though that guy tried butcher himself with an axe. 2hardcore5me Seems like there is something more sinister working behind the scenes. Looking forward to that. |
| Young Burakku Jakku x Sakurako. Honestly the transformation sequence for Sakurako makes me cringe. Also, I just realized that the ED is awesome. |
| What would be really original here, is if butterfly man turned out to be Sakuraku's not-so-dead brother. We could then have a stand off between Shoutarou and Soutarou. Sakuraku would probably lose it, but eventually forced to face reality and chose who's side she's on. Never going to happen though. |
| "I'm a middle schooler bartender!" - Mishima Hitomi |
| A very fascinating episode, although like others here, the CGI sequence should be phased out already. I guess it's safe to assume that the 'Butterfly Man' that Fujioka was speaking to is now the series antagonist. Thanks to the quick thinking of Sakurako as well as Utsumi, Fujoika will survive and has a new path in life to travel down with his wife and daughter. It's also nice to see Li-chan doing fine as well. =D |
| And then it turns out the butterfly man is Soutarou...nah~ I wish that Shoutarou is Soutarou but that would ruin the plot. My personal theory for why his hair color is different is because he spends time in the sun. Completely inaccurate but I wish they are related some how. |
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| Oh man this episode was frickin' awesome! I believe the guy who told Fujioka about the painting is connected to Sakurako in some way. We need more episodes like this one!! |
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| The color black fights the fear of death and is hope? XD my new favorite color :) Maybe the guy is a funeral home owner and is going around making people die so he can get more money. AWWW Hector is so cute and majestic <3 Almost as good as doge, almost :)  |
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| this is so bad lmao, now he wants to kill himself?? and now sakurako is a master at physics, forensics, paintings, history, like holy shit.... and we still know next to nothing about our main characters... |
frequency15k said: this is so bad lmao, now he wants to kill himself?? and now sakurako is a master at physics, forensics, paintings, history, like holy shit.... and we still know next to nothing about our main characters... True that |
| "I lost all of what you could call feelings of love. They weren't sealed, so they can't be released. They weren't broken, so they can't be fixed. That which is lost, cannot be recovered." Shiba Tatsuya "There are no regrets. If one can be proud of one's life, one should not wish for another chance." Saber "No matter what happens, no matter how crazy things get, I'll always try to restore balance." Korra "It's madness to let others take what's yours and accept it blindly." Baatar Jr "Instinct is a lie, told by a fearful body, hoping to be wrong." Zaheer "Partner in crime, partner in time" Chloe Price and Max Caulfield |
| I knew there was a poison on the painting. I also knew that there were something related to the ax. Sadly, I didn't know it was for killing himself. For sure I thought he was going to kill his family like the crazed up Jack Nicholson in Shining. It's kind of predictable in someway, but then again it's mystery anime that makes us thinking. It seems that this guy who tried to drive people to suicide is gonna be the antagonist. And we still don't know anything about Sakurako, or that boy who keeps on hanging around her. Other than this shonen liking Sakurako, and Sakurako loves bones. |
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| Well the curse man case is close and who would have guess that it is a plot to committed suicide. Sakurako still look at Shoutarou as a counterpart of her brother? If Sakurako keep going with this...it will become a tragedy. |
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| I don't know whether to drop this or persevere seeing as it's only one of two shows I picked up this season... It's just not holding my attention at all. It's a really, really beautiful show but not what I expected at all. And the episodic format is just not working for me. |
| hm, kind of a disappointing ending to this arc... a shame, especially since the setup was so good. but i guess we got some sort of introduction to that painter guy as some sort of "villain" we'll probably see soon again. |
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| I kind of knew that he was looking for his own death and planned that all along. The poor dog had nothing to do with the "curse". I'm glad he's fine and could return to his wife and daughter to start a happy life. I'm still concerned about the appraiser. What are his motives to lead the family to stay close to the paint and die? I'm surprised Sakurako didn't dig more into it. |
| Who is that black haired woman that appears at the end of the episode (she also appears in the OP)? I dont recall seeing her in the other episodes. |
g4biru said: Who is that black haired woman that appears at the end of the episode (she also appears in the OP)? I dont recall seeing her in the other episodes. She's Shouko-san, Sakurako's aunt, whom I always imagined to be much older. She's been mentioned several times before, but like you said, we hadn't seen her yet. |
| "I'm a middle schooler bartender!" - Mishima Hitomi |
| Who is the man with the black cap in the opening clip? May be there are relation with the Fujioka case? And what's with Sakurako? She always overshadowed by her brother. Maybe there was something behind his death. |
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| I love how the anime will still place those CG rainbow skeletons when Sakurako puts gloves on (even if the case has nothing to do with bones). 3/5 |
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GoldenDevilGamer said: I love how the anime will still place those CG rainbow skeletons when Sakurako puts gloves on (even if the case has nothing to do with bones). 3/5 THIS. |
"Doubting everything that you take on... That is very important. Open your own eyes, clear out your ears, and look and listen to the world... And think using your own brain. After you've doubted everything, there is a possibility of something real to believe in. To believe in something, doubt everything." |
| In just two episodes my feelings about this series went from "It might be pretty decent" to "I don't give a damn any more"... This whole "case" was just so dreary. Looks like this show worked better with "bones of the week" scheme instead of trying to make Sakurako L-like character or as some people mentioned, anime House. |
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| So... this is an excerpt from my post in last weeks discussion: Jonesy974 said: 1. Heavy metal poisoning. More specifically, arsenic poisoning. Why? - The fingernails. He had white bands on his nails. One thing that can cause them are Mee's lines, which appear with arsenic poisoning. Arsenic also affects the liver, which would match his liver stress. - They can also prove this by showing the painting next episode. Old paintings that contained arsenic have yellow/orange/red color from aging. I also mentioned things like the dog not actually being creepy, and how the mysterious painting guy was up to no good. Don't wanna say I hit the nail on the head...but yea... I actually didn't know about that specific type of green containing arsenic, so that was neat. That was an interesting plot twist they took though. It's true that he was being poisoned with arsenic by the advice of the appraiser, but that was an accident. He was also trying to kill himself so his family would get insurance money. I didn't expect for them to prove a theory right, but then show that he was acting strange for a different reason. At first I thought they brushed over the appraiser guy after they found out about the guy wanting to commit suicide. But the fact that Sakurako brought it up again leads me to believe he will pop up again later in another case. |
| Wow, episode was over so fast! I'm always impressed by how much detail goes into investigating each case! Really liked this episode! :) |
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Laionidas said: What would be really original here, is if butterfly man turned out to be Sakuraku's not-so-dead brother. We could then have a stand off between Shoutarou and Soutarou. Sakuraku would probably lose it, but eventually forced to face reality and chose who's side she's on. Never going to happen though. Yes, that would indeed be really original. I mean, seriously, mate? You think that's original? |
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| So since the beginning, he tried to kill himself. The feeling of this episode was good. Sakurako succeed to save him. I wonder who is the man in black. |
L-Ryoshi said: Zeally said: What why would they have to do that just to live a "good life". They already have a huge house, and there's no indication that they are having financial troubles. On the contrary, they seem pretty well off. Ah, but you see none of those points you mentioned have actually been stated. The house they live in is morbidly depressing (the wife did a good job on it) and it was mentioned that they got it for relatively cheap on the advice of I'm assuming that dude that the Husband met on the side of a road. Think about it. If they were really that well off, why would they live in a dark house in the middle of a forest and not in some wealthier district? The husband was definitely hiding something since he hid the fact that the "Cursed Painting" was nearby and not actually in storage. Why else would he take it out if not to make a huge scene of it? I say the guy he met on the side of the road was in on it too. I still stick with my "lets make a morbid curse legacy and leave a fortune to my wife and kids" hypothesis. Not 100% on the money, but still..... I FUCKING CALLED IT! :P |
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| that was awesome. I'm glad it went a different direction than I had anticipated because it made the result much more interesting, definitely more so than I predicted. Hopefully the involvement of the "mysterious painter" is resolved sooner rather than later. Additionally, I can't help but draw comparisons between Fujioka's scheme and Arthur Miller's old play "Death of a Salesman." In that play, I found myself empathizing with and understanding the protagonist's drastic resolution, and I understand Fujioka just as much. In a way, I find it admirable that he's willing to go to such extremes for his family's financial welfare. |
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| so that mystery man is a recurring villain now? Interesting... nothing much to do with bones, but i still liked the episode. Pretty elaborate plan he had there... luckily sakurako saw thru it, and i also picked up a bit of med knowledge from this.. which is always great. |
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| Episode a bit flat as transport emotional, various events were somewhat telegraphed, the only value that is shaping up to be the main plot, thanks to the final picture that brings a bit of happiness in all that darkness treated so far, it is refreshing to see that all past events have been well resolved. The drawings and animations were once again good quality. |
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yhunata said: Laionidas said: What would be really original here, is if butterfly man turned out to be Sakuraku's not-so-dead brother. We could then have a stand off between Shoutarou and Soutarou. Sakuraku would probably lose it, but eventually forced to face reality and chose who's side she's on. Never going to happen though. Yes, that would indeed be really original. I mean, seriously, mate? You think that's original? Considering the overall premise of the show, then yes, definitely. If this show was something like Code Geass, then clearly no. |
| "I'm a middle schooler bartender!" - Mishima Hitomi |
| The mystery feels very shallow, it lacks impact. It also feels like the main story won't be going anywhere soon. Casual mystery solving is not tryhard enough, it feels weak. |
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| That painter who illegally parked his car is shady as fuck. I'm almost certain he knew about the toxic painting and wanted to indirectly kill the family to steal the painting or something, just like Sakurako stated with the notion of curses. If the guy was both a painter [iand[/i] and a professional appraiser, there's no way he wouldn't have known about the painting as Sakurako said. I'm guessing he'll be revealed to be something like a villain later on. With the butterfly imagery going about and everything about the painter in black, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a metaphor for this guy being death. What is it with butterflies and death anyway? At any rate, I doubt this is the last we'll see of him. |
| Eh, this episode felt a little flat IMO. Everything wrapped up too nicely in the first half, that ridiculous gloves sequence again ... I certainly didn't expect the arsenic in the painting, OR that mysterious guy who apparently tried to kill him? What's the motivation though? Takeshi tried to commit suicide by HACKING OFF HIS LEGS??? Uh ... surely there's a better way to do that >_< Kind of ridiculous IMO ... since we didn't end up seeing much of the "villain" I'm guessing he'll be back. We've got a new character at the end - Sakurako's mom or something? Plus she's still seeing her brother in Shoutarou ... IDK, I feel like this show is getting weaker as it goes on :( I hope it gets some stronger episodes soon! |
ichii_1 said: AWWW Hector is so cute and majestic <3 Almost as good as doge, almost :) Not physically possible to be as good as doge |
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| I knew it, I felt like the guy just wanted to kill himself. His bad habits, overworking himself, etc. he was finding ways to commit suicide. Sakurako was exceptionally cool in this episode. I'm also suspecting that Soutarou, her brother was probably murdered and it was disguised as an accident or something which is why she was asking "him" to give her a little more time. Are we going to see Hector from now on? Will he be part of the team? I want him to be there. |
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ElectricRed said: ... Anyways, who is the guy with the suit and the hat? And why did Sakurako say, "just give me a little more time"? The world may never know The guy will probably be Sakurako's nemesis in the upcoming episodes. She wants to see her baby brother Soutaro. This guy's gonna help her get there ;-) I've been watching Hyouka recently. Sakurako and Houtarou would make an ace team...too bad they'd end up being lazy butts cooped up in their rooms and "conserving energy" xD |
| Props to Utsumi for being a cop in a tv show that's not completely useless. This was a pretty good mini-arc and it seems to be leading to a bigger mystery. |
| Oh... I hate it when my predictions are right. The painting being poisonous was obvious. =__= And how can the wife have absolutely no clue about their financial situation? He started investing a year ago and the market crashed about 2 months ago? Whether she's working or a housewife, wouldn't she have at least an inkling? So oblivious.. >> Sakurako-san knows too much and struggles too little. :( |
| Very good episode. After the slow build up in the previous episode, this one had a satisfying conclusion. I was surprised the husband tried to kill himself. Really liking this anime so far. Hope it keeps up! |
| One of the best episodes so far with episode 2 not far behind :D I suspected the painting has toxic before watching this episode and was glad to be right :) Something really wrong with that guy though, Kujou is becoming more and more like a female Sherlock now :) The mystery person stepping out of the care has be interested in finding out who he is. |
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| The painting being toxic was obvious before this episode even started, and i knew he was going to kill himself because he was broke the second they showed that newspaper about the market crash. Kudos to Sakurako-san for figuring it out without the telltale newspaper though. It was an alright 2-episode arc, the worst case this season so far though. |
| Like I thought, Fujioka was trying to kill himself over the insurance money. This is actually extremely common in Japan and perhaps even more so in Korea. We finally catch a glimpse of the main antagonist and yes, it would be oddly amazing if he turned out to be Sakurako's not-actually-dead-little-brother. Not because it'd be terribly original but because it'd be very interesting to see how she would react to it. |
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| So there was never a curse after all. The arc ended a bit cliche for my taste but the suspense is still going. Gotta love that dog |
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| Financial debts can really kill you. 4/5. |
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