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Jul 25, 2015 2:24 AM
#51
Jul 25, 2015 2:30 AM
#52
Jul 25, 2015 2:38 AM
#53
The only reason I could possibly hate them is for Tokyo Ghoul but other than that, nothing else. I gotta give them props for Akatsuki no Yona though and Naruto (except their filler trash and stupid animation). Wish they gave Naruto consistent animation like Bleach. |
Jul 25, 2015 2:39 AM
#54
Aaaah, it was fucking unavoidable to piss on Toei while talking about Pierrot... Anywhore, Pierrot seems good animation-wise for the most part and adaptation-wise. Don't start mentioning Kingdom season 1, it was still a good adaptation and it was bearable and I don't care about Root A since I haven't watched it, but season 1 is a good adaptation even though I don't like it. And Toei still has ok art to back it up and not all of Toei's shows have bad pacing. And what's most important, they both have shows that can entertain. |
Poltergeist18Jul 25, 2015 2:43 AM
Jul 25, 2015 2:42 AM
#55
cullo99 said: A while a go i started the shippuden series because the bias of naruto the original one, and now that i have grown up i realized that the animation is such trash, such as the excessive censorship of tokyo ghoul..... Pierrot is bullshit. What do you think about Pierrto studio? That's just the version they aired on TV, though. An uncensored version of the first season of Tokyo Ghoul exists and is watchable on KissAnime and gogoanime. OT: I personally like them. There are some intense episodes of Naruto Shippuuden that they make memorable because of fluid animation, breathtaking visuals, no stills, and just look movie-like. The only thing I don't like about them is the excessive filler they put in Naruto and Bleach (though I skip them), but that's only so they can have good pacing when they return to the canon episodes. My impression of them is that they are a hardworking studio that put a lot of effort into their work, and I enjoy their fight scenes. As far as I can tell, their adaptation of Yu Yu Hakusho is superior to the manga. However, I hear that they butchered the adaptations of Tokyo Ghoul and Great Teacher Onizuka, but I'm not sure if it's their fault. |
wildhoodJul 25, 2015 3:41 AM
Jul 25, 2015 3:13 AM
#56
Isterio said: AzureDaora said: Tylaen said: O'rly...? Don't watch unless you want to spoil yourself but yes, most of the time it has shit animation. The backrounds lacked detail in this scene in the Manga as well. As for the texture, it´s quite essential to sacrifice some coloring in favor of more fluid animation, Compare it to this fight . Which is garbage compared to the first one imo. The direction is debateable but purely judging from the quality of animation (not art) the first one is superior. Fight A is a continues onslaught of fast well coreographed movement with lesser focus on the coloring to compliment the movement. Fight B has more rich coloring but barely the amount of action Fight A has and uses alot of stillframes (with great art) where only a head is moving coupled with some flashing lights. Fight A has more classic animation and uses more frames where as Fight B uses more CGI and bright effects to impress. It´s Transformers vs The Raid. I for my part choose The Raid anytime. Problem is that most of the naruto scenes have very stifled animation. Kara no kyoukai has some very nice fight choreography, best knife fights in anime imo. |
Jul 25, 2015 3:38 AM
#57
CyberAnimeLover said: Toei survived the industry for almost a century and still alive and strongBetter than Toei tho =P Ur beloved Pierrot will someday go downhill and will go to the graveyard like what's happening to Gainax and Madhouse |
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Jul 25, 2015 3:41 AM
#58
Karadzic said: Nah, One-Punch Man will save themUr beloved Pierrot will someday go downhill and will go to the graveyard like what's happening to Gainax and Madhouse |
Jul 25, 2015 4:11 AM
#59
Tylaen said: O'rly...? Don't watch unless you want to spoil yourself but yes, most of the time it has shit animation. [spoiler]/[spoiler] I thought the animation on that fight was good honestly. The art felt weird though. |
Jul 25, 2015 4:18 AM
#60
Karadzic said: CyberAnimeLover said: Toei survived the industry for almost a century and still alive and strongBetter than Toei tho =P Ur beloved Pierrot will someday go downhill and will go to the graveyard like what's happening to Gainax and Madhouse Sure,not like i give a shit about pierrot in the first place.Still better than Toei tho =P |
Jul 25, 2015 4:19 AM
#61
They adapted Great Teacher Onizuka, so I'm cool with them. |
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Jul 25, 2015 4:20 AM
#62
CyberAnimeLover said: wait till FGAU see thisStill better than Toei tho =P |
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Jul 25, 2015 4:22 AM
#63
Jul 25, 2015 4:35 AM
#64
Yu Yu Hakusho is one of the old long running anime that have somewhat consistent animation quality and it was made by them so they are alright for me |
Jul 25, 2015 5:00 AM
#65
Karadzic said: CyberAnimeLover said: wait till FGAU see thisStill better than Toei tho =P F-FGAU what ?! |
Jul 25, 2015 5:03 AM
#66
Ulquiorra1923 said: No. They animated Bleach, one of the best anime series of all times. Bruh,you have watched over 800 anime and you still consider bleach your #2 ? Couldn't you find something more......worthy of the title ? |
Jul 25, 2015 5:08 AM
#67
CyberAnimeLover said: Ulquiorra1923 said: No. They animated Bleach, one of the best anime series of all times. Bruh,you have watched over 800 anime and you still consider bleach your #2 ? Couldn't you find something more......worthy of the title ? My opinion, my taste, my favorites. Too bad we can't put 10 favorites instead of 5. |
Jul 25, 2015 5:08 AM
#68
CyberAnimeLover said: FGAUKaradzic said: CyberAnimeLover said: Still better than Toei tho =P F-FGAU what ?! |
Jul 25, 2015 5:12 AM
#69
You people need to figure out what animation and art means. Then you have my permission to complain..... yeah, doesn't work as well as it did with Bane. |
Jul 25, 2015 5:13 AM
#70
Baby Steps has awful backgrounds but is still entertaining to the point I don't actively notice it. |
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Jul 25, 2015 5:20 AM
#71
black1blade said: I for my part choose The Raid anytime. Problem is that most of the naruto scenes have very stifled animation. Kara no kyoukai has some very nice fight choreography, best knife fights in anime imo.[/quote] It´s quite obvious considering that time and money works against Pierrot when they produce Naruto. The episodesare weekly. Where Ufotable can produce their shit with planning in mind and change their schedules according to need. More importantly. What´s the audience and the aim? Naruto and Tokyo Ghoul are shown in "free TV". They are made so that children and adults who grow up with it keep buying/start buying their manga. While Ufotable tries to sell their 300$ DVD Blue Ray box to the sweaty guy who licks his Rin poster and sleeps on his Saber Pillow. Who do you think has more money 12 year old Shin who reads Jump? Or 25 year old Chin who wastes his money on Hentai games. In one case you wanna advertise the source material and in the other case "you wanna actually sell your Anime". |
IsterioJul 25, 2015 5:25 AM
Jul 25, 2015 5:30 AM
#72
Their GTO anime adaptation was great, but Tokyo Ghoul was atrocious. |
Jul 25, 2015 5:32 AM
#73
Isterio said: black1blade said: I for my part choose The Raid anytime. Problem is that most of the naruto scenes have very stifled animation. Kara no kyoukai has some very nice fight choreography, best knife fights in anime imo. It´s quite obvious considering that time and money works against Pierrot when they produce Naruto. The episodesare weekly. Where Ufotable can produce their shit with planning in mind and change their schedules according to need. More importantly. What´s the audience and the aim? Naruto and Tokyo Ghoul are shown in "free TV". They are made so that children and adults who grow up with it keep buying/start buying their manga. While Ufotable tries to sell their 300$ DVD Blue Ray box to the sweaty guy who licks his Rin poster and sleeps on his Saber Pillow. Who do you think has more money 12 year old Shin who reads Jump? Or 25 year old Chin who wastes his money on Hentai games. In one case you wanna advertise the source material and in the other case "you wanna actually sell your Anime".[/quote] Stay night is the first type moon thing that is otaku pandering. The only reason they moved onto the type moon stuff is because the huge risk that was kara no kyoukai turning out well. Even so, the fact that the animation is often inherently bad with long runners is the reason I don't watch them. |
Jul 25, 2015 5:33 AM
#74
Jul 25, 2015 5:39 AM
#75
Isterio said: It's obvious, right? BD and DVD are aimed for fans. You can't blame marketing strategy.While Ufotable tries to sell their 300$ DVD Blue Ray box to the sweaty guy who licks his Rin poster and sleeps on his Saber Pillow. |
Jul 25, 2015 5:43 AM
#76
CharlRosso said: Isterio said: It's obvious, right? BD and DVD are aimed for fans. You can't blame marketing strategy.While Ufotable tries to sell their 300$ DVD Blue Ray box to the sweaty guy who licks his Rin poster and sleeps on his Saber Pillow. Pretty universal marketing strategy across most late night anime. Pretty sure it's cheaper than the 2 eps volumes studios do for other shows. |
Jul 25, 2015 5:49 AM
#77
black1blade said: CharlRosso said: Isterio said: While Ufotable tries to sell their 300$ DVD Blue Ray box to the sweaty guy who licks his Rin poster and sleeps on his Saber Pillow. Pretty universal marketing strategy across most late night anime. Pretty sure it's cheaper than the 2 eps volumes studios do for other shows. I would never insult markeing. I´ll certainly call out evil strategies and most certainly say who would go to hell,but what the hell everyone here would do the same in their position. Everyone who wouldn´t is realy afraid or a liar. Heart attak grill offers customers who weight over 160 Kilo free burgers. Btw that´s the chain with the 9000 caloriy burger. That´s genius marketing. If god exists where do you think this guy will go? |
IsterioJul 25, 2015 5:56 AM
Jul 25, 2015 8:17 AM
#78
Takuan_Soho said: i don't wonat to be boring person. i just like to be playing save person. well, my life already ruined by them even before i use it. (Yes, my parent does it. thanks for that)Unyilkdr said: As Kimi may have said in Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere, what a boring human. i never smoke, never do drugs, and never drinks. You should try everything once, if only to know why you should never smoke, do drugs or drink (though alcohol is, after all the cause of and solution to all of life's problems). |
Jul 25, 2015 8:24 AM
#79
Isterio said: black1blade said: CharlRosso said: Isterio said: It's obvious, right? BD and DVD are aimed for fans. You can't blame marketing strategy.While Ufotable tries to sell their 300$ DVD Blue Ray box to the sweaty guy who licks his Rin poster and sleeps on his Saber Pillow. Pretty universal marketing strategy across most late night anime. Pretty sure it's cheaper than the 2 eps volumes studios do for other shows. I would never insult markeing. I´ll certainly call out evil strategies and most certainly say who would go to hell,but what the hell everyone here would do the same in their position. Everyone who wouldn´t is realy afraid or a liar. Heart attak grill offers customers who weight over 160 Kilo free burgers. Btw that´s the chain with the 9000 caloriy burger. That´s genius marketing. If god exists where do you think this guy will go? It isn't an Evil strategy though. It's a niche market that doesn't appeal to the masses. To turn a profit, box sets have to be expensive. The show is still available for watching on legal sites or tv in Japan. There are rental DVDs too. Sure you can't get a huge collection as with western releases but it means that you can support your fav show. There are very few things I would consider paying Japanese prices for, the ufo movies begin the only ones I would consider unless I became quite wealthy. They have found the business model that works and turns a profit so that they can keep making anime. Without the pricing, far fewer anime would be made. |
Jul 25, 2015 8:27 AM
#80
Akatsuki no Yona was pretty good imo, but other than that I haven't seen anything good from Pierrot. Shippudden is pretty damn terrible with the 1 million fillers and the animation looks weird even in the canon parts of it. |
Jul 25, 2015 8:28 AM
#81
Suikomaru said: NOPE, it will make them sunk them deeper if they fail. and it's almost guaranted fail. because everyone on this site like it because murata version. and it will be hard to achieve murata version quality except they have unlimited budget (it's still possible, they get bandai for sponsor anyways). and for notes, i am webtoon version fans. so, how they animated it doesn't have any problem with me. just keep it still funny an i will like it, but look like the mayority people are not.Karadzic said: Nah, One-Punch Man will save themUr beloved Pierrot will someday go downhill and will go to the graveyard like what's happening to Gainax and Madhouse |
Jul 25, 2015 8:44 AM
#82
I think the anime they make is trash. I could barley get through Tokyo Ghoul it was so bad. |
Jul 25, 2015 9:08 AM
#83
19990930 said: I think the anime they adapt is trash. I could barley get through Tokyo Ghoul it was so bad. Fixed that for you. |
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Jul 25, 2015 9:12 AM
#84
Karadzic said: Ur beloved Pierrot will someday go downhill and will go to the graveyard like what's happening to Gainax and Madhouse Gainax has nge, maybe they'll get themselves together before it ends. Madhouse was already saved by NTV and isn't going anywhere. Pierriot still makes big bucks on naruto and tokyo ghoul still turns a profit which is why more stuff is on the way. Bleach 2 will save animu too. |
Jul 25, 2015 9:41 AM
#85
Keep the hate strong, guys. It's well deserved after the fiasco that was Tokyo Ghoul. |
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Jul 25, 2015 9:45 AM
#86
Unyilkdr said: I think Madhouse really shines when it comes to manga adaptations. (seen HxH 2011? Death Note? Kiseijuu?) I bet it's gonna be "the next big thing" from Madhouse this year.Suikomaru said: NOPE, it will make them sunk them deeper if they fail. and it's almost guaranted fail. because everyone on this site like it because murata version. and it will be hard to achieve murata version quality except they have unlimited budget (it's still possible, they get bandai for sponsor anyways). and for notes, i am webtoon version fans. so, how they animated it doesn't have any problem with me. just keep it still funny an i will like it, but look like the mayority people are not.Karadzic said: Ur beloved Pierrot will someday go downhill and will go to the graveyard like what's happening to Gainax and Madhouse |
Jul 25, 2015 9:48 AM
#87
Kiseijuu wasn't that good an adaptation tbh. |
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Jul 25, 2015 9:50 AM
#88
Sapewloth said: Kiseijuu wasn't that good an adaptation tbh. It wasn't that good of a manga either, so what's the point? |
Jul 25, 2015 9:53 AM
#89
Sapewloth said: When its source material compared to Tokyo Ghoul it's clearly TG ftw, BUT if we looked at their adaptation....Kiseijuu wasn't that good an adaptation tbh. Kiseijuu was adapted "so close" to the source material (with adapting culture I guess) that can being "more superior" than this shitty TG (especially root A). |
Jul 25, 2015 9:53 AM
#90
yhunata said: Sapewloth said: Kiseijuu wasn't that good an adaptation tbh. It wasn't that good of a manga either, so what's the point? I thought it was a pretty good anime.But Death Parade was the fucking best this year ! |
Jul 25, 2015 9:55 AM
#91
CyberAnimeLover said: yhunata said: Sapewloth said: Kiseijuu wasn't that good an adaptation tbh. It wasn't that good of a manga either, so what's the point? I thought it was a pretty good anime.But Death Parade was the fucking best this year ! Not even close... Death Parade was good early on, but faltered terribly as it went on. The episodes with the two murderers were good then it went back to being average. DP, in general, wasn't even close to the goodness that Death Billiards was. As far as best this year goes, I'd give that to either Kekkai Sensen or Arslan Senki... or I could cheat and give it to Shirobako, which was a carry over from last year. |
Jul 25, 2015 9:55 AM
#92
They are. They are the reason behind the horror that is NaruHina and SasuSaku from Naruto. Not to mention, terrible Tokyo Ghoul anime. |
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Jul 25, 2015 9:55 AM
#93
Jul 25, 2015 9:58 AM
#94
yhunata said: The problem with DP is it was an original anime from MH, which not their "advantage" of writing a story on their own...Not even close... Death Parade was good early on, but faltered terribly as it went on. The episodes with the two murderers were good then it went back to being average. DP, in general, wasn't even close to the goodness that Death Billiards was. |
Jul 25, 2015 10:01 AM
#95
Suikomaru said: well, HXH is good from the original source. death note have consistent animation, but few last episode buthcered this series for me (like manga gve something better anyways, lel) and for kiseiju, only watch few episode (too gory for me) but the animation are average. and for notes, first adaptation fo hajime no ipp has bad animation (rising fixed it little, but not resolve their main problem) and chaos;head is ...., well i don't need to explain it.I think Madhouse really shines when it comes to manga adaptations. (seen HxH 2011? Death Note? Kiseijuu?) I bet it's gonna be "the next big thing" from Madhouse this year. |
Jul 25, 2015 10:09 AM
#96
Can we please get back on topic? I don't want another thread locked because of people arguing whether *insert series here* (Usually off topic) is good or not. |
Jul 25, 2015 10:11 AM
#97
TheGalaxianMelon said: Can we please get back on topic? I don't want another thread locked because of people arguing whether *insert series here* (Usually off topic) is good or not. The thread doesn't really have much a topic to return to. |
Jul 25, 2015 10:14 AM
#98
yhunata said: We were discussed TG, Naruto, Baby Steps, and so on, right? So what now?TheGalaxianMelon said: Can we please get back on topic? I don't want another thread locked because of people arguing whether *insert series here* (Usually off topic) is good or not. The thread doesn't really have much a topic to return to. |
Jul 25, 2015 10:15 AM
#99
Suikomaru said: yhunata said: We were discussed TG, Naruto, Baby Steps, and so on, right? So what now?TheGalaxianMelon said: Can we please get back on topic? I don't want another thread locked because of people arguing whether *insert series here* (Usually off topic) is good or not. The thread doesn't really have much a topic to return to. We could discuss Detective Academy Q... though I doubt many people here would've heard of it. |
Jul 25, 2015 10:17 AM
#100
yhunata said: just people bashing something to begin with. or in another wordsTheGalaxianMelon said: The thread doesn't really have much a topic to return to.Can we please get back on topic? I don't want another thread locked because of people arguing whether *insert series here* (Usually off topic) is good or not. TheGalaxianMelon said: fixedpeople arguing whether *insert studio here* (Usually off topic) is good or not. |
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