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May 20, 2015 8:47 AM
#1
Just found out one of my favorite anime is actually based on a VN that has some hentai scenes... wut. |
May 20, 2015 8:49 AM
#2
Majority of them are dating sims. |
May 20, 2015 8:58 AM
#3
Wait did you seriously miss all the people calling F/SN a porn game? Not all VNs are eroge, but many are because VNs with H scenes sell better. |
May 20, 2015 9:03 AM
#4
i don't know if most are, but a lot of them have H-scenes, that's for sure. |
May 20, 2015 9:05 AM
#5
Feaor said: Wait did you seriously miss all the people calling F/SN a porn game? Not all VNs are eroge, but many are because VNs with H scenes sell better. We can't blame the poor boy. I was deeply shocked too when I knew F/SN had h scenes. Those Saber scenes look awfully disgusting seeing the King of Knights get fvcked by a highschool boy. Ugh... |
May 20, 2015 9:05 AM
#6
Well a lot of them have hentai scenes yeah. And wrong subforum http://myanimelist.net/forum/?board=7 |
May 20, 2015 9:06 AM
#7
I don't think all are, but are really. But personally, idgaf, as long as its good. |
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May 20, 2015 9:09 AM
#8
A lot of the shitty VNs are hentai. The best tend to not have them. |
May 20, 2015 9:10 AM
#9
The good ones, if they have them do not make them a central point. Stories like G-Senjou no Maou, Grisaia no Kajitsu, Muv-Luv Alternative, they are all absolutely fantastic. They contain H-Scenes but they don't detract from the story, just a little bonus fanservice for the most part. There are good stories like Saya no Uta where it is actually important for the story but I wont go into details. The ones that do have them as a central point are generally nowhere near as good and far more ten a penny than ones with good plots. |
May 20, 2015 9:13 AM
#10
to answer the question in the op.. vndb documents 16981 visual novels 3373 are tagged with "No sexual content" 4427 are tagged with "High Sexual Content" 361 are tagged with "Low Sexual Content" source https://vndb.org/g285 presumably the ones that are not tagged with any of these are too obscure/irrelevant make of that what you will |
May 20, 2015 9:47 AM
#11
So you know, lots of very good novels have sex scenes too, and there's absolutely nothing surprising with that. Eroge are supposed to be for adult players, so no need to avoid sex scenes like you would for a media directed toward children like lots of anime are. |
May 20, 2015 9:50 AM
#12
Zefyris said: So you know, lots of very good novels have sex scenes too, and there's absolutely nothing surprising with that. Eroge are supposed to be for adult players, so no need to avoid sex scenes like you would for a media directed toward children like lots of anime are. I'm pretty sure there's a big difference between sex scenes in novels and in VNs. |
May 20, 2015 9:51 AM
#13
Zefyris said: So you know, lots of very good novels have sex scenes too, and there's absolutely nothing surprising with that. Eroge are supposed to be for adult players, so no need to avoid sex scenes like you would for a media directed toward children like lots of anime are. There's a difference between a sex scene and a porn scene. When there's a long description of just how Saber licked Shirou that lasts for five minutes, that's porn and it distracts from the main storyline. |
May 20, 2015 9:55 AM
#14
robis798 said: which is the fact that you see what's happeningZefyris said: So you know, lots of very good novels have sex scenes too, and there's absolutely nothing surprising with that. Eroge are supposed to be for adult players, so no need to avoid sex scenes like you would for a media directed toward children like lots of anime are. I'm pretty sure there's a big difference between sex scenes in novels and in VNs. and possibly hear it too |
May 20, 2015 10:02 AM
#15
Almost all of them yes,stuff like Walkure Romanze are full blown hentai VN's in the "pick your favorite heroine/route and see how many sex scenes there are" fashion.Not that you could initially guess after watching the anime... There are some VN that have minor hentai moments just to spice things up ,and actually have a story to tell. |
May 20, 2015 10:05 AM
#16
Tenshi_Shura said: Feaor said: Wait did you seriously miss all the people calling F/SN a porn game? Not all VNs are eroge, but many are because VNs with H scenes sell better. We can't blame the poor boy. I was deeply shocked too when I knew F/SN had h scenes. Those Saber scenes look awfully disgusting seeing the King of Knights get fvcked by a highschool boy. Ugh... Uh well,those scenes are deleted in the Realty Nua versions..so you can play those. OT: Riptos said: They contain H-Scenes but they don't detract from the story, just a little bonus fanservice for the most part. |
May 20, 2015 10:27 AM
#17
Yeah there are VN games that are hentai. Just be careful on playing a M rated or R rated games. I played a few VN games like Oreimo and it doesn't have hentai scenes. I also played Corpse Party and it's not really a hentai for a mature game. Some panty shots but meh the blood is more attractive... lol |
May 20, 2015 10:32 AM
#18
mayukachan said: Majority of them are dating sims. Shh Mayuka. You are going to pissed VN fans with that statement. :D |
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May 20, 2015 11:12 AM
#19
robis798 said: images, in other words, "visuals", since it's a "visual" novel, heh. Who would have thought about that kind of difference without you, thanks for pointing it out.Zefyris said: So you know, lots of very good novels have sex scenes too, and there's absolutely nothing surprising with that. Eroge are supposed to be for adult players, so no need to avoid sex scenes like you would for a media directed toward children like lots of anime are. I'm pretty sure there's a big difference between sex scenes in novels and in VNs. Doesn't change anything. |
May 20, 2015 3:46 PM
#20
Visual novels are media for pathetically desperate people it's kind of sad that anime never makes original shit and just takes VNs and animates them |
May 20, 2015 3:57 PM
#21
You can turn off sex scenes but for some it's necessary to keep them on (most loli VNs). |
May 20, 2015 3:58 PM
#22
There's a reason why the slang name for "visual novel" is "porn game". |
May 20, 2015 4:00 PM
#23
https://vndb.org/v/all?q=;fil=tagspoil-2.tag_inc-235;o=d;s=rating This is list of VN with no sexual content. |
May 20, 2015 6:23 PM
#24
notsomacho said: Visual novels are media for pathetically desperate people it's kind of sad that anime never makes original shit and just takes VNs and animates them Oh please, as if you know ANYTHING at all. There are loads of VNs with better stories than anime >__> The H scenes of typical VN is less than 5% of the ENTIRE content. If you know nothing, it'll do you good not to embarrass yourself by sprouting nonsense. Firstly, most of the H scenes are present cos VN need sales, if you know ANYTHING about the industry, such comments won't have come out. Secondly, the scenes actually shows how the characters deepen their relations, it may sometimes be relevant with the story plot when character relations are tied very closely to the story. Thirdly, some of them have PS Vita ports, which are essentially all-age. It ain't like your shitty hentai where the sex is there just to fulfill its role. In fact, I'd go as far to say most VNs adaptations are shit. VNs tend to have better stories than anime. |
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May 20, 2015 6:41 PM
#26
VNs usually have H scenes since it's often obligatory for good sales, similar to how blockbluster movies often have obligatory sex scenes in the last couple decades. Some of them are pretty hilarious since they feel so forced, and might very well be the last thing on the creators' minds. However, the really successful ones can usually afford to release VNs without H scenes, such as Higurashi, Umineko, Ever17, Steins;Gate or new TypeMoon VNs and re-releases (i.e. F/SN Realta Nua). |
May 20, 2015 6:53 PM
#27
Regarding H-content, I see three kinds of visual novels: - No H-content. They're entirely story-based. Stuff like Ever17, True Remembrance, stuff from ryukishi07, and Phoenix Wright. Honestly, I can't think of many like this, or at least ones that are translated. That being said, the ones that I am familiar with are really popular and well-known somehow. - Has H-content, but there's barely any. The main focus is the story, with the H-content just there as a bonus selling point. Trying to play these for the sex is devoting hours upon hours of your life for crap you could have just googled for. These are things like Type-Moon stuff, Eien no Aselia, and G-senjou no Maou. Sometimes, there are versions with the H-content removed, so you get a clean visual novel where you can just play straight without getting distracted. - Fairly high amount, if not entirely full of H-content. The dating sim stuff are just everywhere, but there are things that still have a plot. I actually can't haven't read anything like these, since they don't interest me much, but I do know of Saya no Uta and Kara no Shoujo, which do get intense. |
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May 20, 2015 7:12 PM
#28
Yes. But that is not something to be bothered. |
#CHEXIT |
May 20, 2015 9:25 PM
#29
Nukige (Porn focused Visual Novels) are cheap to produce and sell pretty well so there's heaps of them, there's VN's with 0 sexual content but you'll find a good percentage of the popular ones have at least a handful of sex scenes. Tenshi_Shura said: Feaor said: Wait did you seriously miss all the people calling F/SN a porn game? Not all VNs are eroge, but many are because VNs with H scenes sell better. We can't blame the poor boy. I was deeply shocked too when I knew F/SN had h scenes. Those Saber scenes look awfully disgusting seeing the King of Knights get fvcked by a highschool boy. Ugh... I fapped hard, and so did Urobuchi. |
May 20, 2015 9:25 PM
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May 20, 2015 9:29 PM
#31
That's right, regardless of reasons. Most are full porn, the rest either pseudo-pandering harem material with plots plastered over them like Fate (or just plain romance/vanilla sex) and then some "safe" ones (indies and stuff like Ace Attorney). |
May 20, 2015 11:45 PM
#32
Most? Yeah. Always? Nope. |
May 21, 2015 12:05 AM
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May 21, 2015 3:17 AM
#34
Yes and no If they are console versions than they are All Age ratings. If they are PC they usually can have Ero Scenes. |
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May 21, 2015 3:19 AM
#35
romagia said: vndb documents 16981 visual novels 3373 are tagged with "No sexual content" 4427 are tagged with "High Sexual Content" 361 are tagged with "Low Sexual Content" source https://vndb.org/g285 so, more then a half? that's amazing. |
May 21, 2015 3:47 AM
#36
WrongPriest said: Nukige (Porn focused Visual Novels) are cheap to produce and sell pretty well so there's heaps of them You probably meant the doujin game market, the higher quality ones are equally if not more expensive than most eroge. For example producers like Illusion soft, AliceSoft, softhouse-seal, Waffle, TinkerBell, etc. They all have set their name in the industry and is well known for their quality products. Also, the standard pays for nukige VA is higher than non-explicit eroge or non-pornographic VN which is only paid per words. Eroge in general also paid higher than those working on the hentai anime industry (which is the lowest bracket of voice acting that only pays around 10.000 Y / episode), one of the reasons why most of the time hentai anime adaptation of a nukige have a different casts. Btw, a lot of big names seiyuu has at least once voiced eroge before, or even some are eroge VA that make names in 'normal' anime later on their career. |
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May 21, 2015 3:55 AM
#37
azzuRe said: WrongPriest said: Nukige (Porn focused Visual Novels) are cheap to produce and sell pretty well so there's heaps of them You probably meant the doujin game market, the higher quality ones are equally if not more expensive than most eroge. For example producers like Illusion soft, AliceSoft, softhouse-seal, Waffle, TinkerBell, etc. They all have set their name in the industry and is well known for their quality products. Also, the standard pays for nukige VA is higher than non-explicit eroge or non-pornographic VN which is only paid per words. Eroge in general also paid higher than those working on the hentai anime industry (which is the lowest bracket of voice acting that only pays around 10.000 Y / episode), one of the reasons why most of the time hentai anime adaptation of a nukige have a different casts. Btw, a lot of big names seiyuu has at least once voiced eroge before, or even some are eroge VA that make names in 'normal' anime later on their career. Those names certainly ring a bell ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) But yeah sorry, my numbers were certainly off. |
May 21, 2015 4:05 AM
#38
Unyilkdr said: romagia said: vndb documents 16981 visual novels 3373 are tagged with "No sexual content" 4427 are tagged with "High Sexual Content" 361 are tagged with "Low Sexual Content" source https://vndb.org/g285 so, more then a half? that's amazing. False. https://vndb.org/g1 11330 VN are tagged with sexual content. And there are a lot of VNs that aren't tagged yet. The 3373 VN tagged with No sexual content, you're looking at half of them being console games. Estimate 13000/17000 VN listed in VNDB have sexual content. |
May 21, 2015 4:10 AM
#39
WrongPriest said: Nukige (Porn focused Visual Novels) are cheap to produce and sell pretty well so there's heaps of them, there's VN's with 0 sexual content but you'll find a good percentage of the popular ones have at least a handful of sex scenes. Tenshi_Shura said: Feaor said: Wait did you seriously miss all the people calling F/SN a porn game? Not all VNs are eroge, but many are because VNs with H scenes sell better. We can't blame the poor boy. I was deeply shocked too when I knew F/SN had h scenes. Those Saber scenes look awfully disgusting seeing the King of Knights get fvcked by a highschool boy. Ugh... I fapped hard, and so did Urobuchi. NOPE DOPE. |
May 21, 2015 4:16 AM
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May 21, 2015 4:16 AM
#41
BlueScarf said: A lot of the shitty VNs are hentai. The best tend to not have them. |
huh |
May 21, 2015 4:22 AM
#42
Tenshi_Shura said: WrongPriest said: Nukige (Porn focused Visual Novels) are cheap to produce and sell pretty well so there's heaps of them, there's VN's with 0 sexual content but you'll find a good percentage of the popular ones have at least a handful of sex scenes. Tenshi_Shura said: Feaor said: Wait did you seriously miss all the people calling F/SN a porn game? Not all VNs are eroge, but many are because VNs with H scenes sell better. We can't blame the poor boy. I was deeply shocked too when I knew F/SN had h scenes. Those Saber scenes look awfully disgusting seeing the King of Knights get fvcked by a highschool boy. Ugh... I fapped hard, and so did Urobuchi. NOPE DOPE. It only prove that she's a girl.... |
#CHEXIT |
May 21, 2015 4:24 AM
#43
yosuoka said: i think that adds up multiple tags from the same VN (e.g. a VN with 10 sexual content tags adds 10 to that total number)Unyilkdr said: romagia said: vndb documents 16981 visual novels 3373 are tagged with "No sexual content" 4427 are tagged with "High Sexual Content" 361 are tagged with "Low Sexual Content" source https://vndb.org/g285 so, more then a half? that's amazing. False. https://vndb.org/g1 11330 VN are tagged with sexual content. And there are a lot of VNs that aren't tagged yet. The 3373 VN tagged with No sexual content, you're looking at half of them being console games. Estimate 13000/17000 VN listed in VNDB have sexual content. |
May 21, 2015 4:25 AM
#44
Dexthepleb said: BlueScarf said: A lot of the shitty VNs are hentai. The best tend to not have them. This is as untrue as it gets. All of the best VNs have H scenes or 18+ You're looking at Baldr Dive 2 RECORDARE, Muv Luv Alternative, Hatsuyuki Sakura, Irotoridori no Sekai, Subahibi, Aiyoku no Eustia etc |
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May 21, 2015 4:27 AM
#45
Imeon said: Tenshi_Shura said: WrongPriest said: Nukige (Porn focused Visual Novels) are cheap to produce and sell pretty well so there's heaps of them, there's VN's with 0 sexual content but you'll find a good percentage of the popular ones have at least a handful of sex scenes. Tenshi_Shura said: Feaor said: Wait did you seriously miss all the people calling F/SN a porn game? Not all VNs are eroge, but many are because VNs with H scenes sell better. We can't blame the poor boy. I was deeply shocked too when I knew F/SN had h scenes. Those Saber scenes look awfully disgusting seeing the King of Knights get fvcked by a highschool boy. Ugh... I fapped hard, and so did Urobuchi. NOPE DOPE. It only prove that she's a girl.... Who was supposed to have pride in her title as King of Knights but tarnished it anyway by licking Shiro's foot. Seriously though, it's just a matter of opinions. I just hated seeing Saber like that even though I didn't mind Rin's anus being ravaged by Shiro because it was "defenseless". |
May 21, 2015 4:35 AM
#47
Tenshi_Shura said: Imeon said: Tenshi_Shura said: WrongPriest said: Nukige (Porn focused Visual Novels) are cheap to produce and sell pretty well so there's heaps of them, there's VN's with 0 sexual content but you'll find a good percentage of the popular ones have at least a handful of sex scenes. Tenshi_Shura said: Feaor said: Wait did you seriously miss all the people calling F/SN a porn game? Not all VNs are eroge, but many are because VNs with H scenes sell better. We can't blame the poor boy. I was deeply shocked too when I knew F/SN had h scenes. Those Saber scenes look awfully disgusting seeing the King of Knights get fvcked by a highschool boy. Ugh... I fapped hard, and so did Urobuchi. NOPE DOPE. It only prove that she's a girl.... Who was supposed to have pride in her title as King of Knights but tarnished it anyway by licking Shiro's foot. Seriously though, it's just a matter of opinions. I just hated seeing Saber like that even though I didn't mind Rin's anus being ravaged by Shiro because it was "defenseless". Supposed Shiro should be licking her foot? |
#CHEXIT |
May 21, 2015 4:39 AM
#48
yosuoka said: Dexthepleb said: BlueScarf said: A lot of the shitty VNs are hentai. The best tend to not have them. This is as untrue as it gets. All of the best VNs have H scenes or 18+ You're looking at Baldr Dive 2 RECORDARE, Muv Luv Alternative, Hatsuyuki Sakura, Irotoridori no Sekai, Subahibi, Aiyoku no Eustia etc You're missing out Sharin no Kuni; Kitto, Sumiwataru; ef etc.... But one of the most beautiful VN I read was Narcissu. Too bad it was so short. Narcissu, Side 2nd and 3rd have like one of the best stories told and they are all ages too. |
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May 21, 2015 5:03 AM
#49
I've only played Grisaia and Fate but from what I've heard majority of them have sexual content. |
May 21, 2015 5:28 AM
#50
Jiharo said: yosuoka said: Dexthepleb said: BlueScarf said: A lot of the shitty VNs are hentai. The best tend to not have them. This is as untrue as it gets. All of the best VNs have H scenes or 18+ You're looking at Baldr Dive 2 RECORDARE, Muv Luv Alternative, Hatsuyuki Sakura, Irotoridori no Sekai, Subahibi, Aiyoku no Eustia etc You're missing out Sharin no Kuni; Kitto, Sumiwataru; ef etc.... But one of the most beautiful VN I read was Narcissu. Too bad it was so short. Narcissu, Side 2nd and 3rd have like one of the best stories told and they are all ages too. Narcrissu is mediocre so the point still stands that all the best vns have h-scenes in them. |
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