Aeldrian said: Its true, anime is dead why?? Anime nowadays No more focusing on story and, Relies on fanservice. and thats not anime anime is dead dis guy is right anime nowadays should be called something else. they just have to think of a good name.So atleast in away they wont ruin good animes like hunter x hunter  oh yeah hunter x hunter so old, anime is dead!!!! DrCoppelius said: Imaishi said: and the best anime finished airing little over a year ago so... Does it ever make you depressed to think nothing will ever come close to Kill la Kill for you? why would it? I can rewatch it any day |
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Imaishi said: then how if i told you that Danshi koukosei no nichjou get axed not long after it anime finished?Unyilkdr said: well, when harem anime (sodekata and tastemen) easily get second season, things like nichijou have to survive just for finished. i just can hope family stuff (romance, non moe SOL, comedy, shounen) can still alive. that are enough for me. this isn't a good example because nichijou is terrible |
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| As much as I like Evangelion, I really loathe Anno. He hates the series. He hates himself. He hates everything. |
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Unyilkdr said: Imaishi said: then how if i told you that Danshi koukosei no nichjou get axed not long after it anime finished?this isn't a good example because nichijou is terrible you said Nichijou man. i was thinking about different anime |
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DrCoppelius said: remove moe and ecchi would be better. both 2 of this like big nope to make new anime viewer. if there are no regeneration fans, anime will slowly die.keragamming said: Remove the moe first. Then sure.Ecchi+Moe+ well written story. Could that work for everyone? |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Jerkhov said: pretty much, hes a good storyteller but a complete dumbass and kind of scumbaggy with how hypocritical he is.As much as I like Evangelion, I really loathe Anno. He hates the series. He hates himself. He hates everything. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Jerkhov said: Where do you think he got inspiration for such miserable characters?As much as I like Evangelion, I really loathe Anno. He hates the series. He hates himself. He hates everything. |
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| More than anime decays or dies I think is evolving, but the bad is than US industry is comin' and putting their octopus suckers on it. So the more animation on US/UE are shity, insane but child focused, Japanese have a variety no market would have ever. Our rol like fans is folow the current but, we all have a hard critic point, so a good point of view about our own tates and likes, so the difference is not anime dying, so some genres or demographics due a lack of market/proffit, this is the main matter on a business, so the thing than no gain money go to the trash cube, but many of this works were valuable for little groups of fans... So something is missing, some of the artisan part front the CG/informatic tools. . . lowering quality for quantity. . . They must reconsider some missuses, and pull on the animation to a new evolved level! |
DcyendMay 24, 2015 11:34 PM
I'll tell you something, my Tenchi. You know, the carnival comes and goes... if you wait for a while, it'll always come back to you, Tenchi.  |
Unyilkdr said: DrCoppelius said: remove moe and ecchi would be better. both 2 of this like big nope to make new anime viewer. if there are no regeneration fans, anime will slowly die.Remove the moe first. Then sure. But if we take out those, the industry will truly be dead. That's why I was thinking of mixing it a bit. A lot of people wouldn't mind the Moe as long as the story is good. Like madoka for eg. Good story+Moe= to success! |
| Yawn, NGE was kind of boring anyways. It seems like famous artists just love to wallow in gloom and doom dementia as they get older (hi Franciso de Goya). |
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black1blade said: +1 Anime should switch to digital.It's their funding/distribution methods that need to change. I don't see most of the people complaining about how the industry is going buying blurays. |
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DrGeroCreation said: black1blade said: +1 Anime should switch to digital.It's their funding/distribution methods that need to change. I don't see most of the people complaining about how the industry is going buying blurays. Ew. Digital is an era that ruins the hobby collectors have who love to own merchandise. |
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| Don't worry, Eva 4.0 will show us the way. That's why it's taking so long. Lol, every season since Free! has pretty much sucked. Kill la Kill couldn't save anime. |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Japanese Blurays are too expensive for westerners. Otakus can buy blurays and additional money will come from the west in the form of subscription based services. Win win money making strategy.DrGeroCreation said: +1 Anime should switch to digital. Ew. Digital is an era that ruins the hobby collectors have who love to own merchandise. |
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| Arslan Senki and Assclass have already saved anime. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Kagami_Hiiragi said: Japanese Blurays are too expensive for westerners. Otakus can buy blurays and additional money will come from the west in the form of subscription based services.Ew. Digital is an era that ruins the hobby collectors have who love to own merchandise. Once digital becomes the only source of buying anime is when the collecting anime era ends for people like me. I hope the west doesn't stop/nor Japan, but a dark day is upon people like me. RIP my collection. |
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keragamming said: in short term, YES. but in long term? like i said " if there are no regeneration fans, anime will slowly die." and appereance are what first people look.Unyilkdr said: But if we take out those, the industry will truly be dead. That's why I was thinking of mixing it a bit. A lot of people wouldn't mind the Moe as long as the story is good. Like madoka for eg. Good story+Moe= to success!remove moe and ecchi would be better. both 2 of this like big nope to make new anime viewer. if there are no regeneration fans, anime will slowly die. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Even if people say anime is dying, I still have a buttload of anime I need to watch. If it does end, I'll have enough to watch to last for a good amount of years~ |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: You could just DVD rip your collection and have a digital collection. I don't think digital will become the only source of buying anime considering how Japanese otakus snap up expensive DVDs and Blurays. I think digital will be more used to distribute anime in the west. We are actually already seeing it happen with streaming services like Crunchyroll and Funimation streaming newly aired anime.DrGeroCreation said: Japanese Blurays are too expensive for westerners. Otakus can buy blurays and additional money will come from the west in the form of subscription based services. Once digital becomes the only source of buying anime is when the collecting anime era ends for people like me. I hope the west doesn't stop/nor Japan, but a dark day is upon people like me. RIP my collection. |
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DrGeroCreation said: You could just DVD rip your collection and have a digital collection. No offense, but no. |
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| actually, this anime era are like old rock band. full of contradiction. if they change their style, their current fans will leave them. if not, they will never go new fans and slowly die. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
NebulaC3I said: Don't worry, Eva 4.0 will show us the way. That's why it's taking so long. Lol, every season since Free! has pretty much sucked. Kill la Kill couldn't save anime. Nonon's butt saved anime by 10%. Dat booty. |
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Kagami_Hiiragi said: Well suit yourself. It's nice to have a portable backup.DrGeroCreation said: You could just DVD rip your collection and have a digital collection. No offense, but no. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Kagami_Hiiragi said: Well suit yourself. It's nice to have a portable backup.No offense, but no. No point in collecting though. Actually buying and owning boxes and official merchandise is what makes collecting fun. A digital collection isn't as fun tbh. |
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Kagami_Hiiragi said: It's only not as fun from a collecting point of view but you would still be enjoying the same content.DrGeroCreation said: Well suit yourself. It's nice to have a portable backup. No point in collecting though. Actually buying and owning boxes and official merchandise is what makes collecting fun. A digital collection isn't as fun tbh. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Kagami_Hiiragi said: It's only not as fun from a collecting point of view but you would still be enjoying the same content.No point in collecting though. Actually buying and owning boxes and official merchandise is what makes collecting fun. A digital collection isn't as fun tbh. I guess, but it wouldn't be a collection anymore. It'd just be watching anime. Though, at least figurines will be safe~. |
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Kagami_Hiiragi said: It would be a digital collection but I see what you mean. I guess it's nice to admire box art and the art on the discs themselves.DrGeroCreation said: It's only not as fun from a collecting point of view but you would still be enjoying the same content. I guess, but it wouldn't be a collection anymore. It'd just be watching anime. Though, at least figurines will be safe~. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Kagami_Hiiragi said: It would be a digital collection but I see what you mean. I guess it's nice to admire box art and the art on the discs themselves.I guess, but it wouldn't be a collection anymore. It'd just be watching anime. Though, at least figurines will be safe~. Plus, showing off your collection or discs you've bought would cease to exist. So many youtubers and sites would be forced to close down and stop too. |
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Dcyend said: More than anime decays or dies I think is evolving, but the bad is than US industry is comin' and putting their octopus suckers on it. So the more animation on US/UE are shity, insane but child focused, Japanese have a variety no market would have ever. Our rol like fans is folow the current but, we all have a hard critic point, so a good point of view about our own tates and likes, so the difference is not anime dying, so some genres or demographics due a lack of market/proffit, this is the main matter on a business, so the thing than no gain money go to the trash cube, but many of this works were valuable for little groups of fans... So something is missing, some of the artisan part front the CG/informatic tools. . . lowering quality for quantity. . . They mast reconsider some missuses, and pull on the animation to a new evolved level! Soon Hollywood will be in charge of your weebshit. Time to commit sudoku. |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: You could show off everything on your flashdrive or portable harddrive XD.DrGeroCreation said: It would be a digital collection but I see what you mean. I guess it's nice to admire box art and the art on the discs themselves. Plus, showing off your collection or discs you've bought would cease to exist. So many youtubers and sites would be forced to close down and stop too. |
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cmon anno save us with more of ur "original" works |
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| anno sounds like he hasn't watched free! yet. |
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Jerkhov said: As much as I like Evangelion, I really loathe Anno. He hates the series. He hates himself. He hates everything. I like Anno. He is good at riling people up. |
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Cabron said: seppuku.Dcyend said: More than anime decays or dies I think is evolving, but the bad is than US industry is comin' and putting their octopus suckers on it. So the more animation on US/UE are shity, insane but child focused, Japanese have a variety no market would have ever. Our rol like fans is folow the current but, we all have a hard critic point, so a good point of view about our own tates and likes, so the difference is not anime dying, so some genres or demographics due a lack of market/proffit, this is the main matter on a business, so the thing than no gain money go to the trash cube, but many of this works were valuable for little groups of fans... So something is missing, some of the artisan part front the CG/informatic tools. . . lowering quality for quantity. . . They mast reconsider some missuses, and pull on the animation to a new evolved level! Soon Hollywood will be in charge of your weebshit. Time to commit sudoku. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Unyilkdr said: It was meant to be a joke.Cabron said: seppuku.Soon Hollywood will be in charge of your weebshit. Time to commit sudoku. |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
| The Seventhstyle post seems to take some liberties with reporting what Anno said to say the least… I get the message though, from all the coverage. He may be right in some sense: that popular series are less original and 2D animation is harder to fund. I don't think it's realistic to think that anime will go away though, and I don't see anything coming that could make overall revenue decline as long as anime can be produced. Anime probably will adapt to change, although not all of us will like where it could go (mostly, to more 3D). BatoKusanagi said: Projecting much, Anno? Pretty much, I think. He might be a genius not in spite of his issues, but because of them, bless him. (He's like Van Gogh ^ _ -.) He said earlier this year that he's pretty depressed, again. I wonder if he is also seeing decline in change, as older (sorry, Anno!) people in any field tend to do. Yes, there've been shifts in production and distribution, but this the same in any medium anywhere in the world. I haven't gone through enough figures to say just what these changes look like, but stuff like more web series and more one cour TV series look like new opportunities, not decline. The average series aired today perhaps have less original stories than those of past decades, might be more homogeneous in their animation styles (looking at lists of airing TV anime from years in the 'golden age' makes me doubt this), and definitely are more influenced by the otaku audience. However, taking into account all anime that gets made, there's a lot more variety out there than ever before or anywhere else. To use biodiversity terminology, the evenness is high, but the richness is also high. You can't say that "stylistic" series such as Uchouten Kaizoku and Ping Pong make less than they used to, because unique, artistic series weren't made before, not as much as they are now. Anime today uses less key animation than that before, such that there is can be worse, and the sophisticated artistry and technique of Toei/Tezuka/Ghibli animators is fading (as portrayed in Shirobako with the story of Sugie). In-between and key animators are not paid enough, but this is a problem with low-level jobs across industries in Japan today that'll have to be solved nationally. As ANN has loudly pointed out lately, everyone 'higher up' than animators (including art directors, animation supervisors, etc.) is paid tolerably. (As for whether animation will increase in other countries in Asia, that wouldn't have to be Japan's loss…) Now, it's a bit ironic if Anno is saying there's a dearth of originality and inability to adapt while he's making Nihon Animator Mihonichi. He's shown that Japan has a lot of new directors and animators who can tell stories in original ways and create innovative animation—especially 3D animation. Nihon Animator's promoters definitely are going for the image of pointing toward a bright future rather than gazing sadly back at the past. Maybe, Anno just can't see the forest for the trees while managing Khara's projects. Perhaps, anime will increasingly just be 'Japan running in circles around its own game'. If it does, it won't be unique. All art and entertainment is pretty derivative, everywhere, and most stuff people make is unoriginal. (Anno's work, like anyone else's, draws heavily on that of others—think of all the inspiration Evangelion got from mecha series going back to Gundam, and how the concept of the Eva units came from Hayao Miyazaki's kyoshinhei. Being less derivative is not always a good thing, as Hollywood studios' paranoia about infringing rights demonstrates.) An anime industry that can just repeat the same tricks will be like today's Hollywood—less than it used to be, mostly boring, but definitely not dead and more capable of amazing work than ever. Even if popular anime will all be like Kancolle—shifted heavily toward 3DCGI and pandering to a specific audience—just as there still space for Wes Anderson among all the action sequels, there will still be room for Masaaki Yuasa and people like him. Also posted on my MAL blog. |
MiporinMay 25, 2015 12:16 AM
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Cabron said: i know, i only want to see it seppuku/sodoku joke image,Unyilkdr said: It was meant to be a joke. seppuku. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Milk_is_Special said: Not really, I mean they are still pumping out like 30 full shows every season so the industry isn't dead yet, and it will stay strong for years to come. "Pumping out" is the key description. That's all they can manage. |
| Anno can eat a dick. |
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However, Mr. Anno does not think that this will mean an end to anime as an artistic form of film. He points out the possibility of the centres of anime production moving to other areas of Asia with good conditions. According to Mr. Anno's prediction, things like anime will definitely continue to exist across the world, but the demise to Japan being the heart of anime in the world is swiftly approaching. Well that's pretty much a positive outlook if you ask me. |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
| Maybe if studios didn't treat their staff like dirt and only pick the stories with the most boobies~ |
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Gholy said: fst said: Then link it to something goddamnit.pls it doesn't even link to anything right now. Had to take it down because img broke over the weekend and it was just displaying the raw bbcode. Consequently I lost the old url, but it was nothing exciting anyways. Anyway... I can't believe it took me so long to figure out what to do next. |
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