| Why am i not surprised. Probably won't watch it. And once again it's always amuse me to see several people keep trashing LN news thread whenever they appeared. Such dedication~ |
CainthazarMar 9, 2015 8:28 PM
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| Oh sigh. I think I'm done with the majority of light novels at this point... |
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| It's Probably like Warubure, Anyway I'll wait for more Info :) |
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Ventris said: And the many more we will get until this most recent fad in anime dies its well deserved death. It will. Someday. Just not now. Just like a few years ago where brocon imoutos were everywhere, and there was a lot of backlash then, too. It's not like little sisters just started coming to the fore in 2008, or have gone away from anime, but the dominance of the theme have died down a lot and people eventually stopped complaining. |
One day, Ikki encounters a half-naked girl, Stella Vermillion, who was changing in his room. Sounds absolutely amazing.How come i never heard of genius behind this LN before? i really hope studio DEEN animates it so we can have full experience on this one.God dammit, this is going to be so fking epic - let's all join the hype train guys. |
incompleteAEGISMar 9, 2015 10:46 PM
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| Seriously? This genre is getting so generic it's actually painful. Stupid trends! (I'm pretty damn sure there are better LN to adapt out there. -sigh-) |
| Wow... just what? Instead of doing yet another LN that starts with stumbling into a half-naked girl or something, why not give something interesting like Stealth Symphony (granted it was cancelled, but who gives a fuck?) or Psyren a shot? Hell, if you wanna go ecchi, give Monster Musume a shot. |
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Hoppy said: It's the opposite, very few of the good ones were adapted and the studios are adapting the bottom of the shit barrel because they think it will have a better chance of being a hit. Blame the studios for being far too safe. Or blame the fans for having shit taste and buying this same tired crap over and over again. Also to all the people bringing arguments of good LN. Nidheoggr said 90% of LN adaptations are crap, listing a few good LN adaptations does not make his argument invalid at all. 10% is still quite a bit, and if you ask me quite generous, I doubt there are even that many great LN adaptations. |
Symqn said: Red_Keys said: I'm not judging this because it's a LN, I'm judging it because of what it says explicitly in its synopsis. When your doctor diagnoses you with cancer, it's usually because they found cancer. |
MaxXZoe said: in my perspective it's already a 1 cour adaptation due to the LN has only 6 volumes, even though i can't wait for ikki and stella to be animated!! 6 volumes is just about enough for a 2 cour adaptation without needing a chuu2koi-style total plot rewrite. However, this is GA Bunko, who have never had a 2 cour anime adaptation of anything. And this isn't the series they would have used to break the trend if they were going to, so you can be confident that this will indeed be a 1 cour. PKX said: If you consider 90% of anime as shit, you can say that "I can tell by the cover that this will be shit" and in your opinion you will be right 90% of times; that doesn't make you a person magically able to judge an anime by its cover, it only makes you look like an elitist unable to enjoy anime that underrates and shit-talks mainstream stuff to keep up his facade... Now that is a nice post. baki502 said: Also to all the people bringing arguments of good LN. Nidheoggr said 90% of LN adaptations are crap, listing a few good LN adaptations does not make his argument invalid at all. 10% is still quite a bit, and if you ask me quite generous, I doubt there are even that many great LN adaptations. 1. There is a huge difference between "great" and "not crap". 2. Nidhoeggr has enough of a brain to know that if you claim that everything in a certain category is bad then it is extremely easy to prove you wrong, but as soon as you give a % that is low enough that a handful of examples won't act as a sufficient counterargument then it take a lot of effort to prove you wrong (especially when "bad" is a subjective measure so a lot of the examples you come up with are likely to be dismissed anyway - eg. the haruhi example that someone tried to give earlier). Incidentally, most of the other people who make these hate posts do not have enough of a brain to know this. Which is actually kind of funny. |
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kuuderes_shadow said: PKX said: If you consider 90% of anime as shit, you can say that "I can tell by the cover that this will be shit" and in your opinion you will be right 90% of times; that doesn't make you a person magically able to judge an anime by its cover, it only makes you look like an elitist unable to enjoy anime that underrates and shit-talks mainstream stuff to keep up his facade... Now that is a nice post. |
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| Hey Guys do you know when Hatarku maou sama coming back? waiting for it :( |
baki502 said: Hoppy said: It's the opposite, very few of the good ones were adapted and the studios are adapting the bottom of the shit barrel because they think it will have a better chance of being a hit. Blame the studios for being far too safe. Or blame the fans for having shit taste and buying this same tired crap over and over again. The Otaku doesn't have to buy stuff they don't like. If the other "normal" viewers had bought and shown support for non-Otaku pandering stuff, studios wouldn't have been forced to keep making these to stay alive. The ones at fault are not the ones that keep buying, but rather the people that didn't. |
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| alive. The ones at fault are not the ones that keep buying, but rather the people that didn't.[/quote] yhunata said: baki502 said: Or blame the fans for having shit taste and buying this same tired crap over and over again. The Otaku doesn't have to buy stuff they don't like. If the other "normal" viewers had bought and shown support for non-Otaku pandering stuff, studios wouldn't have been forced to keep making these to stay alive. The ones at fault are not the ones that keep buying, but rather the people that didn't. Thats where the fault of the companies distribution system comes into play too. One, regarding distribution outside of japan is horrible. Maybe in the US or Canada with CR its ok, but anywhere else youre screwed. But even inside of Japan, they sell anime at prices no normal person would buy, only enthusiasts and obsessed people are willing to shill that much money like they ask for anime. And lastly the fact that many of those anime that could appeal to more normal people are aired on TV still at late night slots, again, times almost no normal person stays up to watch that stuff. The fault often lies with both parties. One with the distributors and creators for not wanting to reach a more mainstream and diversified audience. And second also with the otaku, which while he is willing to pay and go to efforts for his hobby, has a weird/bad taste. Altough there luckily there still is good stuff every season. Its in the minority, but nevertheless I cant think of a season where not atleast 2-3 shows where good. Not that I have watched airing for too long, but still. And to be perfectly honest if those few good shows didnt exist every season I would wish the anime industry good riddance and wouldnt care if it crashed and vanished. |
| Can't wait to watch this animated. Hoping it comes out good. Should definitely be a contender for AOTS if done well. I'm expecting a 12-13 episode cour with a second season a high possibility. |
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baki502 said: alive. The ones at fault are not the ones that keep buying, but rather the people that didn't. yhunata said: The Otaku doesn't have to buy stuff they don't like. If the other "normal" viewers had bought and shown support for non-Otaku pandering stuff, studios wouldn't have been forced to keep making these to stay alive. The ones at fault are not the ones that keep buying, but rather the people that didn't. Thats where the fault of the companies distribution system comes into play too. One, regarding distribution outside of japan is horrible. Maybe in the US or Canada with CR its ok, but anywhere else youre screwed. But even inside of Japan, they sell anime at prices no normal person would buy, only enthusiasts and obsessed people are willing to shill that much money like they ask for anime. And lastly the fact that many of those anime that could appeal to more normal people are aired on TV still at late night slots, again, times almost no normal person stays up to watch that stuff. The fault often lies with both parties. One with the distributors and creators for not wanting to reach a more mainstream and diversified audience. And second also with the otaku, which while he is willing to pay and go to efforts for his hobby, has a weird/bad taste. The reason why the prices are so high is because not enough people bought them. The ones who bought them were majorly the Otaku, so of course the companies are going to be forced to make the prices high. They're a business, they need to make a profit or they can't go on. I do agree that the studios need to tap into the worldwide market and not just rely on CR. So no, the fault lies with those that let this happen, not the Otaku that kept on supporting anime. |
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ChairForceOne said: The people who wrote that synopsis arent just making shit up, the series actually does all those tired tropes in even its set up that it has to be in the damned synopsis.It's kind of sad that people are using the mal summary to judge this novel. I'm not saying it isn't stupid or anything, but, the people who write those summaries for ANN are definitely stupid. Yes its best to avoid judging books by their cover, but this is not one of those cases, we have seen this story done so many times and its not even a good one, hell on the contrary its almost always terrible |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
NotJizzyHitler said: ChairForceOne said: The people who wrote that synopsis arent just making shit up, the series actually does all those tired tropes in even its set up that it has to be in the damned synopsis.It's kind of sad that people are using the mal summary to judge this novel. I'm not saying it isn't stupid or anything, but, the people who write those summaries for ANN are definitely stupid. Yes its best to avoid judging books by their cover, but this is not one of those cases, we have seen this story done so many times and its not even a good one, hell on the contrary its almost always terrible Bakemonogatari has these tired tropes. |
ChairForceOne said: Ok and? I barely recall bakemonogatari hence why its not on my list but it was mainly cause of these tired tropes i found that show more tiresome than entertaining. And even if the show did them right that doesnt change the fact that this show here is a walking copy of a million othersNotJizzyHitler said: The people who wrote that synopsis arent just making shit up, the series actually does all those tired tropes in even its set up that it has to be in the damned synopsis. Yes its best to avoid judging books by their cover, but this is not one of those cases, we have seen this story done so many times and its not even a good one, hell on the contrary its almost always terrible Bakemonogatari has these tired tropes. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
NotJizzyHitler said: ChairForceOne said: Ok and? I barely recall bakemonogatari hence why its not on my list but it was mainly cause of these tired tropes i found that show more tiresome than entertaining. And even if the show did them right that doesnt change the fact that this show here is a walking copy of a million othersBakemonogatari has these tired tropes. You are in the minority. Most people like Bakemonogatari. Unfortunately, not many people like a negative nancy who wants anime to fail just to push his own cynical desire for negativity. |
NotJizzyHitler said: ChairForceOne said: The people who wrote that synopsis arent just making shit up, the series actually does all those tired tropes in even its set up that it has to be in the damned synopsis.It's kind of sad that people are using the mal summary to judge this novel. I'm not saying it isn't stupid or anything, but, the people who write those summaries for ANN are definitely stupid. Yes its best to avoid judging books by their cover, but this is not one of those cases, we have seen this story done so many times and its not even a good one, hell on the contrary its almost always terrible It's objectively wrong though. Calling this series "cliché" or "generic" is as credible as calling Log Horizon a "Sword Art Online rip-off". The reactions of most people here is by far more cliché than Rakudai Of course I am only talking about the LN and manga here. It's not necessarily the same for the anime. It really does depend on how the adaption is handled... And I am going to make this clear so everyone understands: This is NOT a harem series! |
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ChairForceOne said: Who gives a fuck about the popular opinion if you just follow that blindly you have no individuality, and i literally never said any of that about wanting it to fail i just said it looked like shit then you spouted a bad argument i refuted. The synopsis is accurateNotJizzyHitler said: Ok and? I barely recall bakemonogatari hence why its not on my list but it was mainly cause of these tired tropes i found that show more tiresome than entertaining. And even if the show did them right that doesnt change the fact that this show here is a walking copy of a million others You are in the minority. Most people like Bakemonogatari. Unfortunately, not many people like a negative nancy who wants anime to fail just to push his own cynical desire for negativity. Grey-Zone said: If i had a nickle for every-time ive heard this. People even said this shit so many times about fucking mahouka and sword artAnd I am going to make this clear so everyone understands: This is NOT a harem series! loneywizard said: Jizzy you never fail to amuse me...If i ever become like that and lose my original purpose of watching anime(which is having fun) i would stop watching anime completely...Unless you are earning money from it,all this elitist thing is BS... I'm an eletist now apparently? Being negative about a show thats more than likley going to receive a overall negative reception here is not a eletist thing to do, the show just looks bad, i'm not sure you noticed but a majority of the thread is quite negative over how it sounds |
JizzyHitlerMar 10, 2015 7:41 AM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
yhunata said: The reason why the prices are so high is because not enough people bought them. The ones who bought them were majorly the Otaku, so of course the companies are going to be forced to make the prices high. They're a business, they need to make a profit or they can't go on. I do agree that the studios need to tap into the worldwide market and not just rely on CR. So no, the fault lies with those that let this happen, not the Otaku that kept on supporting anime. Well you keep talking in past tense, not in present tense. Yes maybe it was the fault of the consumer back then, Idk i wasnt around watching anime back then. Either way, the industry is in a bit of a slump now, should it just stay this way and sulk about how evil the consumers in the past where for not buying enough anime? The companies can either stay this way and devolve more and more if a otaku circle-jerk, while more otakus become part of the production to further produce more and more stuff catered to their tastes as Myazaki said, or do something to change it? In the end the consumers are not going to come back apologizing for what they did 20 years ago and start buying all their crap. Yes the consumer also holds responsability by voting with his wallet, but its the companies that need to take the initiative. Now they could just stay this way or try to exapnd. High risk high profit. If they manage to hit the nerv of the mainstream audience not only will there be more diversity but also alot more money in for them. Or they could just stay in their little corner as a niche little hobby and hope the otakus never gets sick fo their crap. |
NotJizzyHitler said: I'm an eletist now apparently? You are in that club, man. Don't fight it, embrace it and let them whine. |
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| Guys, read the manga. I just read that shit, it's incredible. I mean, look at that originality. No seriously, the main character is so deep and suffers from discrimination and fights against an evil system, there is a yandere sister who is sooooo cute and a princess with big tits who is a tsundere and wants to fuck the MC but can't be she's so pure. |
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NotJizzyHitler said: Spending so much time to badmouth a show that clearly is not suited to your tastes ?Yes...you are...And i wouldn't even care if you had "ANY" knowledge about this thing you are talking about,but sadly that's not the case,you are just attacking it blindly like "Don Quixote"I'm an eletist now apparently? Being negative about a show thats more than likley going to receive a overall negative reception here is not a eletist thing to do, the show just looks bad, i'm not sure you noticed but a majority of the thread is quite negative over how it sounds |
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PKX said: If you consider 90% of anime as shit, you can say that "I can tell by the cover that this will be shit" and in your opinion you will be right 90% of times; that doesn't make you a person magically able to judge an anime by its cover, it only makes you look like an elitist unable to enjoy anime that underrates and shit-talks mainstream stuff to keep up his facade... It is indeed extremely unlikely for me to actually enjoy most seasonals, but that applies to most people in the Japanese or Western society as well. Do you know why? Storytelling standards, time constraints and being mentally above 15. Face it, most of the seasonals are kinda bad and - at least writing-wise - way below the average Western TV drama involving cops, doctors, etc. Opening the discussion why this is the case is way too time consuming and offtopic though, but let's just say that a good portion of th fault lies within the industry and its consumers itself. Sadly, that means the average anime quality is insufficient for most people, which is why a good portion of Western society disregards this medium among other more or less justified reasons. They can still be enjoyable and people have the right to enjoy them, but that doesn't substract from the fact that they are REALLY cheap, mass-produced pulp fiction. You know, the kind of stuff in the category of Twilight or the many derivative YA novels that fill the shelves in your local bookstore and that only teenagers buy. And that's fine, but when a segment of shows begins to dominate the entire industry and quality is disregarded in favor of - at least here - interchangable subpar stories that are virtually the same for almost all people then we have reached a point of oversaturation. And this entire argument is nothing more than people venting their frustration about an oversaturation of bad LN that flood the market. So yeah, call me a whiner. I won't deny that I am fed up with many industry trends. But that doesn't mean I do not enjoy anime. it just means I want more diversity. And no, changing the names and the setting of the highschool does not make your shitty Ln romcom more diverse. Grey-Zone said: And I am going to make this clear so everyone understands: This is NOT a harem series! No, it's just borrows "a bit" from the tropes: metamorphius said: I decided one should not judge a work by its cover, as the saying goes. Since I am, unfortunately, a bit short of time lately, I couldn't dedicate a day to the LN, so I went for the next best option, the manga. Of course, I was fully aware that the manga would most likely fail to capture more nuanced aspects of the LN, but what can one do. Anyway, I checked the first six chapters of the manga and, to my shock and surprise, it turned out it was as good as I expected it to be. And then some. The opening pages introduced me to a beautiful maiden, one of the main characters. http://img.bato.to/comics/2014/04/14/r/read534bba7ccbec0/img000003.jpg A few pages later, I saw character development and plot (in the last panel, mainly) http://img.bato.to/comics/2014/04/14/r/read534bba7ccbec0/img000029.png There was some more PLOT development later, mostly thanks to clever angle and marvelous art http://img.bato.to/comics/2014/04/14/r/read534bba7ccbec0/img000045.png But, not to think everything was focused on the female side of the characters and her plot(s), I encountered some deep stuff focusing on the male protagonist http://img.bato.to/comics/2014/04/14/r/read534bba7ccbec0/img000057.png After the deep stuff, it was time to lighten the mood, so the second chapter focused on a brilliantly executed comedy, while providing quality fanservice and furthering the character relationships http://img.bato.to/comics/2014/05/04/r/read5366220726f48/img000022.png http://img.bato.to/comics/2014/05/04/r/read5366220726f48/img000023.png http://img.bato.to/comics/2014/05/04/r/read5366220726f48/img000002.png Although I very much enjoyed the respite from all the serious and tense stuff, I was also glad that several pages later after the above, we were treated to a flashback that skillfully provided a glimpse into the MC's past and his motives http://img.bato.to/comics/2014/05/04/r/read5366220726f48/img000033.png Just as I was getting used to the idea this would focus on the dynamic between the male protagonist and his female roommate, the author decided to shake that idea http://img.bato.to/comics/2014/06/07/r/read539349e0ca2e7/img000039.png http://img.bato.to/comics/2014/06/07/r/read539349e0ca2e7/img000041.png Later on, more bonding ensued http://img.bato.to/comics/2014/07/08/r/read53bb679baf8eb/img000036.png http://img.bato.to/comics/2014/07/08/r/read53bb679baf8eb/img000045.png I do not wish to bore people any further, as I am sure I demonstrated the high quality of this piece of fiction. Also, I couldn't read any more for the fear of brain aneurysm. And these are just the first few chapters. it might not be a complete harem, but it is still completely generic and stockfull of tired situations that most people are just fed up with. Then again, the best part about these threads is going back to it months after it aired and see the usual defense force eat their own words when the series goes down as yet another unremarkable, boring adaption in the MAL annals. But hey: I am sure, this will be completely different from Absolute Duo/Blade Dance/Dragonar Academy/Testament of Sister Devil/Mahou Sensou/whatever other name you can come up with. Just like it was back then for these series :) |
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NotJizzyHitler said: Grey-Zone said: If i had a nickle for every-time ive heard this. People even said this shit so many times about fucking mahouka and sword artAnd I am going to make this clear so everyone understands: This is NOT a harem series! really? did kirito tried to have another girlfriend? what is this school days? yeah this is not harem because the mc got a girlfriend at an early time, the main focus of the later volumes is their relationship... did you even read the LN? or at least looked at the manga? i'm guess not because you only looked at the summary... Grey-Zone said: This[/quote]It's objectively wrong though. Calling this series "cliché" or "generic" is as credible as calling Log Horizon a "Sword Art Online rip-off". The reactions of most people here is by far more cliché than Rakudai |
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sushiisawesome said: Guys, read the manga. I just read that shit, it's incredible. I mean, look at that originality. I looked, I saw, I became enlightened. "So this is a man's body", I thought to myself, sitting in awe after that second chapter. The last time I was so profoundly touched was when I was reading Punpun. |
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Nidhoeggr said: PKX said: If you consider 90% of anime as shit, you can say that "I can tell by the cover that this will be shit" and in your opinion you will be right 90% of times; that doesn't make you a person magically able to judge an anime by its cover, it only makes you look like an elitist unable to enjoy anime that underrates and shit-talks mainstream stuff to keep up his facade... It is indeed extremely unlikely for me to actually enjoy most seasonals, but that applies to most people in the Japanese or Western society as well. Do you know why? Storytelling standards, time constraints and being mentally above 15. Face it, most of the seasonals are kinda bad and - at least writing-wise - way below the average Western TV drama involving cops, doctors, etc. Opening the discussion why this is the case is way too time consuming and offtopic though, but let's just say that a good portion of th fault lies within the industry and its consumers itself. Sadly, that means the average anime quality is insufficient for most people, which is why a good portion of Western society disregards this medium among other more or less justified reasons. They can still be enjoyable and people have the right to enjoy them, but that doesn't substract from the fact that they are REALLY cheap, mass-produced pulp fiction. You know, the kind of stuff in the category of Twilight or the many derivative YA novels that fill the shelves in your local bookstore and that only teenagers buy. And that's fine, but when a segment of shows begins to dominate the entire industry and quality is disregarded in favor of - at least here - interchangable subpar stories that are virtually the same for almost all people then we have reached a point of oversaturation. And this entire argument is nothing more than people venting their frustration about an oversaturation of bad LN that flood the market. So yeah, call me a whiner. I won't deny that I am fed up with many industry trends. But that doesn't mean I do not enjoy anime. it just means I want more diversity. And no, changing the names and the setting of the highschool does not make your shitty Ln romcom more diverse. Why do you claim you don't enjoy seasonal anime, and yet you add them all to your list? Either your list is just bullshit you made to obtain credibility, or you watch hours and hours of anime you supposedly don't enjoy. Either way, that makes you really stupid. |
sushiisawesome said: Guys, read the manga. I just read that shit, it's incredible. I mean, look at that originality. No seriously, the main character is so deep and suffers from discrimination and fights against an evil system, there is a yandere sister who is sooooo cute and a princess with big tits who is a tsundere and wants to fuck the MC but can't be she's so pure. These sorts of manga/novels always have a slow and cliche starts to warm people into the story, how about waiting till the 3rd or 4th volume for real developments. |
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metamorphius said: I looked, I saw, I became enlightened. "So this is a man's body", I thought to myself, sitting in awe after that second chapter. The last time I was so profoundly touched was when I was reading Punpun. Gotta love that art-style straight out of a "how to draw hentai manga" guide. No its genuinely great in every possible way shape or form,AOTY 2015 confirmed... |
loneywizard said: I love the hypocricy "stop saying negative things now let me shit talk everyone negative in this thread"NotJizzyHitler said: Spending so much time to badmouth a show that clearly is not suited to your tastes ?Yes...you are...And i wouldn't even care if you had "ANY" knowledge about this thing you are talking about,but sadly that's not the case,you are just attacking it blindly like "Don Quixote"I'm an eletist now apparently? Being negative about a show thats more than likley going to receive a overall negative reception here is not a eletist thing to do, the show just looks bad, i'm not sure you noticed but a majority of the thread is quite negative over how it sounds sushiisawesome said: ooohh princess-chan sounds so kawaiiGuys, read the manga. I just read that shit, it's incredible. I mean, look at that originality. No seriously, the main character is so deep and suffers from discrimination and fights against an evil system, there is a yandere sister who is sooooo cute and a princess with big tits who is a tsundere and wants to fuck the MC but can't be she's so pure. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
NotJizzyHitler said: loneywizard said: I love the hypocricy "stop saying negative things now let me shit talk everyone negative in this thread"Spending so much time to badmouth a show that clearly is not suited to your tastes ?Yes...you are...And i wouldn't even care if you had "ANY" knowledge about this thing you are talking about,but sadly that's not the case,you are just attacking it blindly like "Don Quixote" sushiisawesome said: ooohh princess-chan sounds so kawaiiGuys, read the manga. I just read that shit, it's incredible. I mean, look at that originality. No seriously, the main character is so deep and suffers from discrimination and fights against an evil system, there is a yandere sister who is sooooo cute and a princess with big tits who is a tsundere and wants to fuck the MC but can't be she's so pure. I dont think you care about this anime either way. You are just here to make repetitive jokes and get attention. |
| The question is what are people actually criticizing here? If it's the anime adaption, then I can certainly understand the doubts. The adaptions are often rushed by doing many LN volumes into a 1-cour series (see: Campione, a whole volume compressed into 1 episode). It's definitly annoying that such a thing happens. HOWEVER I have to strongly disagree with the people who even call the source material "generic" or "cliché". I always like to use it as an example: Log Horizon and Sword Art Online are both about many people trapped in a game and from that alone we have to look no further: Log Horizon is just a "generic SAO rip-off", I mean just look at it! Both are people "trapped in a game"! Definitly a 1:1 carbon copy of each other, right? WRONG. If someone would actually think it is true, I'd have to question their sanity, or think that they just pretend to know both shows. Or who knows, maybe they don't know either and just hate on it anyway, as that seems to be common practise nowadays? The same applies to Rakudai. It seems "generic" at first glance, but is it? To give an example: The main character does walk into his own room to find out that a girl is changing inside. What does MC do? a) Scream Loudly: "ahh I am so sorry, I-" girl: "kyaaaaa!" *guy gets wrecked* b) Stay frozen in place: "..." girl: "kyaaaaa!" *guy gets wrecked* c) Feign Ignorance: "Ahh sorry, must be the wrong room". girl: "kyaaaaa!" *guy closes door, but then girl comes out saying: "Die!" *guy gets wrecked* Which of these cliché situations happen in this one? NEITHER! What actually happens: Guy: "Ahh sorry, I will not make any excuses for seeing this... so..." *guy takes off shirt* "I'll also strip, so it's fair!" girl: "You beaaaaast!" *guy manages to escape unharmed for now* I dare ask you, if you say that is "generic" then you should be able to list at the very least 5 other titles which do exactly the same thing, (not the "walking on into changing girl", but the reaction and outcome instead) if you can't then please stop using words like "cliché" or "generic" if you cannot back them up! ichii_1 said: sushiisawesome said: Guys, read the manga. I just read that shit, it's incredible. I mean, look at that originality. No seriously, the main character is so deep and suffers from discrimination and fights against an evil system, there is a yandere sister who is sooooo cute and a princess with big tits who is a tsundere and wants to fuck the MC but can't be she's so pure. These sorts of manga/novels always have a slow and cliche starts to warm people into the story, how about waiting till the 3rd or 4th volume for real developments. I never read Infinite Stratos, but from what I heard, Rakudai had more relationship development in 1 volume than IS had in 9. |
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NotJizzyHitler said: What part of my comment was shit talk?seriously?loneywizard said: I love the hypocricy "stop saying negative things now let me shit talk everyone negative in this thread"Spending so much time to badmouth a show that clearly is not suited to your tastes ?Yes...you are...And i wouldn't even care if you had "ANY" knowledge about this thing you are talking about,but sadly that's not the case,you are just attacking it blindly like "Don Quixote" Though you can shittalk as much as you want after you actually read/watch it sir...Its much better than what you are doing now... Grey-Zone said: You dont know the beauty of the magical word "generic" right?you don't need to back it up...you just throw the word there and look cool...I dare ask you, if you say that is "generic" then you should be able to list at the very least 5 other titles which do exactly the same thing, (not the "walking on into changing girl", but the reaction and outcome instead) if you can't then please stop using words like "cliché" or "generic" if you cannot back them up! |
LoneWizzyMar 10, 2015 8:17 AM
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| As I said, Nidhogger, NotJizzyHitler and several others arent here to talk about this anime, which is thread derailment and a waste of time. This thread wasnt made so people could give their opinion on saturation in the anime industry. I don't know anything about this show, and to me it looks stupid. But what is even more boring and stupid is reading these people try to project their dumb meaningless views onto everyone and get the most attention for not liking the series. It is unfair to its fans, and unfair to the people here who want to actually discuss the series announcement. |
Grey-Zone said: Snip It's still the same situation in its most basic procedure, just slightly varied. As I said before, changing a few small details does not mean it is overall anything more than generic. And surely comparing a series to Infinite Stratos is already a hallmark of excellence. After all, that show is known for having set the modern storytelling standard in anime. And this might be an ad hominem, but are you really sure you can accurately judge what is cliched or not with a mere 30 anime coimpleted? ChairForceOne said: It is unfair to its fans, and unfair to the people here who want to actually discuss the series announcement. You mean all the people who said it looked boring and cliched? Yeah, we should continue to do that to stay on topic. |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
baki502 said: Either way, the industry is in a bit of a slump now, should it just stay this way and sulk about how evil the consumers in the past where for not buying enough anime? The companies can either stay this way and devolve more and more if a otaku circle-jerk, while more otakus become part of the production to further produce more and more stuff catered to their tastes as Myazaki said, or do something to change it? You don't understand how businesses work, do you? Anime is a niche market, meaning it can't just do whatever the hell it wants. It is barely surviving right now and that is only because the Otaku keep buying. The anime industry cannot afford to make something that is too much of a risk. baki502 said: In the end the consumers are not going to come back apologizing for what they did 20 years ago and start buying all their crap. Yes the consumer also holds responsability by voting with his wallet, but its the companies that need to take the initiative. Now they could just stay this way or try to exapnd. High risk high profit. If they manage to hit the nerv of the mainstream audience not only will there be more diversity but also alot more money in for them. Or they could just stay in their little corner as a niche little hobby and hope the otakus never gets sick fo their crap. Again, anime is a niche market. It doesn't have the ability to take huge risks as it is barely surviving even now. The Japanese market is gone for, so they only have one option left; the global market. The problem is they have no idea how to properly market anime to the global market. |
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Nidhoeggr said: Grey-Zone said: Snip It's still the same situation in its most basic procedure, just slightly varied. As I said before, changing a few small details does not mean it is overall anything more than generic. And surely comparing a series to Infinite Stratos is already a hallmark of excellence. After all, that show is known for having set the modern storytelling standard in anime. And this might be an ad hominem, but are you really sure you can accurately judge what is cliched or not with a mere 30 anime coimpleted? ChairForceOne said: It is unfair to its fans, and unfair to the people here who want to actually discuss the series announcement. You mean all the people who said it looked boring and cliched? Yeah, we should continue to do that to stay on topic. This anime has fans. Stop being so self absorbed and let them enjoy their anime announcement. You said what you thought. You don't need to keep repeating it. That's where the line between having an opinion and being an attention whore is drawn. When you keep repeating yourself begging for your opponent to validate you, you are asking for their attention. |
| It might be a disappointment for you, but I do not consider you my "opponent" or whatever. I don't even know you. I just share an opinion and remark (with a bit of snark) that a few usual posting patterns will occur and what I think of them. What should we do? Only be positive? Reward this series simply for existing? Stroke the author and say it will be the best because it is an anime and therefore above all criticism? Maybe you should leave the discussion as you are clearly not liking people expressing opinions others might disagree with. |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
Nidhoeggr said: It might be a disappointment for you, but I do not consider you my "opponent" or whatever. I don't even know you. I just share an opinion and remark (with a bit of snark) that a few usual posting patterns will occur and what I think of them. What should we do? Only be positive? Reward this series simply for existing? Stroke the author and say it will be the best because it is an anime and therefore above all criticism? Maybe you should leave the discussion as you are clearly not liking people expressing opinions others might disagree with. No. Say what you think and move on. Don't stay and argue with people who just want to enjoy the anime they like. You aren't rewarding the series. The producers arent here. Spamming your opinion here changes nothing. It just cultivates this persona you want everyone to see in you. You think the show looks stupid. I get it. We all get it. |
ChairForceOne said: This anime has fans. Most of the people who posted here were calling it unoriginal and taunting it, the fans are very, very much in the minority. Look, even if you're going by popularity, most people who posted here said the same thing about it. |
| "The more inexperienced you are, the more you want to show off." - Oreki, Hyouka |
sushiisawesome said: ChairForceOne said: This anime has fans. Most of the people who posted here were calling it unoriginal and taunting it, the fans are very, very much in the minority. Look, even if you're going by popularity, most people who posted here said the same thing about it. This isn't justification to stay and be hipster assholes about it. Just post your opinion and let people take it for what it is, instead of staying and repetitively saying it. |
| The same applies to to all the people who get salty when they see these "hate comments" on page one, though. As said before, people are frustrated and it shows. Maybe a general "Problems with modern LN adaptions" thread would be a good solution. PS: This anime has no fans. It hasn't even aired yet and we do not know how its quality will be. The source may have fans, but apparently not a lot. |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| Can't we like... lock this thread already or something? It's like a neverending downwards spiral of complaining and hating atm -_- |
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Nidhoeggr said: The same applies to to all the people who get salty when they see these "hate comments" on page one, though. As said before, people are frustrated and it shows. Maybe a general "Problems with modern LN adaptions" thread would be a good solution. PS: This anime has no fans. It hasn't even aired yet and we do not know how its quality will be. The source may have fans, but apaprently not a lot. I'm not defending them. The discussion here should be able the announcement and how it relates to the source. Not how stupid infinite stratos is, or how stupid anime producers are. Blah Blah. |
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