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Nov 12, 2014 4:41 AM

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When I joined MAL Code Geass R2 was the best thing that ever happened to me and I couldn't imagine anything ever beating it.
I probably regret this post by now.
Nov 12, 2014 6:31 AM

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I used to think elfen lied was a masterpiece, the anime has done a complete 180 in how I look at it but the manga i still find decent at the very least.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 12, 2014 7:55 AM

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I watched shit like Rosario to Vampire, Vampire Knight, High School DxD, Witchblade and thought they were OK. But even then it was more like curiosity on how they would develop.

I also though Bleach and Naruto were cool as hell.

Now I watch Dog Days and I don't particularly hate it, I see how it can be made better and don't think it's complete trash, it has merit, but very limited and replaceable...
Nov 12, 2014 7:58 AM

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Dog Days was enjoyable - could've been better with some tweaks - a real winner even, but oh well we get what we get. S2 was really disappointing though. A big step back.
Nov 12, 2014 8:26 AM

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Ckan said:
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I liked Chaos;Head when I first watched it.
I remember the show starting out pretty well before it devolved into some nonsensical mess.
I think I watched it again a week later or so because I thought I will understand what happened at the end...

I hear the VN is good though, so I'll probably check it out at some point.

Higashi_no_Kaze said:
When I joined MAL Code Geass R2 was the best thing that ever happened to me and I couldn't imagine anything ever beating it.
But it IS the best thing ever :I
Though Death Note kicks its butt.


I remember thinking Fate/ Stay Night 2006 was cool as hell and liking the idea of the HGW (reminded me of Shaman King which was a favorite of mine from the good old days). Now I think it's average at best.
Nov 12, 2014 7:59 PM

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And I thought I was bad for liking ZnT...
Nov 12, 2014 8:35 PM

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I liked the old FSN too for what the opinion of a filtyh secondary is worth. The VA cast is great, so that helps carry it, and the Tainaka Sachi OP/EDs/inserts were great too. Sure, it's no ufotable, but one takes what they can get.
Nov 12, 2014 8:49 PM

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Ckan said:
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I'm pretty sure this was back when I thought Zero no Tsukaima was hot shit.

Oh, that's a good idea, let's all share embarassing tales of our early anime life. I'll continue:
Randomly stumbled here after I saw people discussing how an overrated/underrated thread had turned into a club.

I think my tastes changed a lot. I used to really like Clannad and I generally enjoyed a lot of slice of life/comedy/moe over serious works. That kind of changed over time.
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Nov 12, 2014 8:55 PM

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Welcome! I think you're the first non-member poster. Congratulations. The whole club thing is a ittle unnecessary, but it's the only way you can maintain your own threads. It's too bad we're the opposite of life at this point.

masterofgo said:
I think my tastes changed a lot. I used to really like Clannad and I generally enjoyed a lot of slice of life/comedy/moe over serious works. That kind of changed over time.
That's interesting. I think I usually see the opposite - people coming in wanting grittier, mature, and action-such things but then later mellowing out and coming to enjoy the jap comedy, SoL, moe, and such.
Nov 12, 2014 9:00 PM

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I mean, I enjoy both at this point, but when I first started, I think it was basically all girls (and one guy) telling me to watch stuff like Clannad, various other kyoani works, etc. and everything else that's moe. I still like quite a lot of them, but it wasn't until much later that I realized that anime had...other things than moe.

I was never really well versed in anime at all. I just relied on what other people said to me and I ran with it. I'm very impressionable I guess.

Ckan said:
Welcome! I think you're the first non-member poster. Congratulations. The whole club thing is a ittle unnecessary, but it's the only way you can maintain your own threads. It's too bad we're the opposite of life at this point.
I just read a random argument between this one random guy talking about how all the overrated people have their own club now and should just disappear or something. He said that at least ten times so I got curious.
Nov 12, 2014 9:01 PM

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I guess I'm the only person who started off with normal tastes that grew into still normal tastes. :P I had a phase when I overrated all the shoujo manga but that's pretty much it. I only watched Clannad, Geass, Steins;Gate, Death Note after stuff like Chihayafuru, Nodame, Sakamichi no Apollon, etc (stuff that are more suited for my tastes) so it had less of an impact.
Nov 12, 2014 9:34 PM

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Well, we're often directed to watch things by whatever community we encounter, so that's understandable.

masterofgo said:
I just read a random argument between this one random guy talking about how all the overrated people have their own club now and should just disappear or something. He said that at least ten times so I got curious.
think I saw that, though I don't remember it being so explicitly about this club.

mayukachan said:
I guess I'm the only person who started off with normal tastes that grew into still normal tastes. :P I had a phase when I overrated all the shoujo manga but that's pretty much it. I only watched Clannad, Geass, Steins;Gate, Death Note after stuff like Chihayafuru, Nodame, Sakamichi no Apollon, etc (stuff that are more suited for my tastes) so it had less of an impact.
I suppose when you put it like that, a good number of us on MAL do have quite maniac preferences.
Nov 12, 2014 9:43 PM

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Ckan said:
masterofgo said:
I just read a random argument between this one random guy talking about how all the overrated people have their own club now and should just disappear or something. He said that at least ten times so I got curious.
think I saw that, though I don't remember it being so explicitly about this club.


SS or it didn't happen.
Nov 12, 2014 9:51 PM

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Who was ranting about this club? Tsud? Solvite? I'm curious.
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Nov 12, 2014 9:52 PM

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Higashi_no_Kaze said:
Who was ranting about this club? Tsud? Solvite? I'm curious.
Oh it's you. I think you were talking to this person actually. I think his/her name started with an N?

Nicoreous....or something similar.
Nov 12, 2014 9:56 PM

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masterofgo said:
Higashi_no_Kaze said:
Who was ranting about this club? Tsud? Solvite? I'm curious.
Oh it's you. I think you were talking to this person actually. I think his/her name started with an N?

Nicoreous....or something similar.

Aikareos*
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FloatsBoats said:
masterofgo said:
Oh it's you. I think you were talking to this person actually. I think his/her name started with an N?

Nicoreous....or something similar.

Aikareos*
Oh shoot. I never knew it started with an A and not an N.
Nov 12, 2014 9:58 PM

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Source of this this Aikareos dude bashing us?
Nov 12, 2014 10:06 PM

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The way I read it, I thought it may have been about the uber elitist club. It seemed ambiguous.
Nov 12, 2014 10:06 PM

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Can't find it, but it was something like "Glad "those" people have their own club now because they're the cancer of MAL" I also like entering gay bars when I'm a straight male and then complaining that there and no girls to hit on

Ckan said:
The way I read it, I thought it may have been about the uber elitist club. It seemed ambiguous.

Nah it was definitely this club cause it was in reply to something saying something about hating people calling something overrated.
Nov 13, 2014 1:35 AM

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Bahamut really is quite nice. I had my doubts with just ep 1, but 2-3 were consistently good.



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Ckan said:
The way I read it, I thought it may have been about the uber elitist club. It seemed ambiguous.

Nah it was definitely this club cause it was in reply to something saying something about hating people calling something overrated.
You're probably right then. I don't blame him for the sentiment - the O/U thread had plenty of awful to come with it.
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Ckan said:
Bahamut really is quite nice. I had my doubts with just ep 1, 2-3 was consistently good.



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Nah it was definitely this club cause it was in reply to something saying something about hating people calling something overrated.
You're probably right then. I don't blame him for the sentiment - the O/U thread had plenty of awful to come with it.


bahamut is on my top 3 for this season i think, this season has some decent fantasy series

Nov 13, 2014 1:43 AM

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Well I finished my finals so I can finally get started on all these series you guys are raving on about.
Nov 13, 2014 1:45 AM
Nov 13, 2014 2:22 AM

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Just about everything, in particular I'm looking forward to YowaPedal 2.
Nov 13, 2014 7:00 AM

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I'm a seasonal watcher and I do post mostly on reddit(TrueAnime though).

Here's the Week 3 discussion and Week 6, the most recent one.

I'm just going to plug in GARO again, since it really is underrated, Berserk Power Rangers is just too good.

Karen Senki is nice schlock sci-fi action. Inou Battle amazes me with its attention to characters, despite it being a generic school harem.

Akatsuki no Yona is finally getting on track. Donten ni Warau is a boring battle shounen. Nanatsu no Taizai is nice action comedy battle shounen.

Shirobako is an intriguing SoL, more character focused and the feel of the workplace and coworkers than actual production process.

For comedy Gugure Kokkuri-san is holding up well, while Amagi is still struggling beside its KyoAni fans.

So out of those, feel free to watch/check them out to see if they are to your liking or not.
Nov 13, 2014 7:05 AM

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Akatsuki no Yona is finally getting on track. Donten ni Warau is a boring battle shounen.

Akatsuki no Yona was excellent from the start.

And whaaat? LOL Battle shounen? Am I watching the show right, because I see it more like a fantasy action (with historical feeling) show, kind of like Hoozuki no Reitetsu with Kuroshitsuji designs. But I agree about boring. Even the best episode was still hard to watch because I got sleepy.
Nov 13, 2014 7:28 AM

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I think akatsuki no yona is the opposite, i think it had potential in its premise but its execution is very sloppy and just rehashes old tropes and cliches without doing them particularly well, its such an uninspired series and i find that very depressing cause i think of all the shows this season akatsuki had the most potential in terms of its premise. That said at least hak and yona have chemistry and that may be the only thing saving the show from being bad

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 13, 2014 7:40 AM

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Probably making too many parallels to Bleach(factions, fight scenes, politics, ideals and such)....
Nov 13, 2014 7:40 AM

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Yeah, parts of Akatsuki no Yona's execution has irked me - things like the flash forward being intrusively done - was there any point returning to it later just to see the battle? Do we really need to get a good look all the party members before they appear?

It's the sort of setting/premise I love, but 3 eps in I'm not confident in how well it's going to turn out.
Nov 13, 2014 7:46 AM

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Ckan said:
I liked the old FSN too for what the opinion of a filtyh secondary is worth. The VA cast is great, so that helps carry it, and the Tainaka Sachi OP/EDs/inserts were great too. Sure, it's no ufotable, but one takes what they can get.
Kenji OST master race too.

Seriously, main reasons I continued to watch it back then despite my hatred for Shirou were Archer (knew he was a badass from minute 1 he showed on screen), HGW, and the OST.

Oh there's also magic (or supposed to anyway) and that's cool.

Question: Why is Parasyte so gud?

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Nov 13, 2014 7:47 AM

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It jumping back and forth between flashback and present time is very sloppy and is probably the biggest problem with the show, like the flashbacks can be find when present but they go on for way too long, like i think its episode 3 where nearly half the episode is spent on a flashback of the 3 of them getting sick together, it just felt so sloppily paced and ruined the atmosphere the show was able to build up in the episode's start and from the 2nd episode.

I think pacing in general is the biggest issue, its slow as fuck, and no i dont mean as in the show is slowly building itself up and carefully planning future events, I mean its slow as in its padding itself so much that it feels like its never going anywhere.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 13, 2014 8:00 AM

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3 eps in, I don't think it felt too slow, but the jumping definitely hampered any good flow - which is what I'd suggest excabarates the issue.
I'm not sure about how the later eps are, but I don't think it was too padded, though it does take more time than might be needed.

BotatoPriest said:
Kenji OST master race too.

Seriously, main reasons I continued to watch it back then despite my hatred for Shirou were Archer (knew he was a badass from minute 1 he showed on screen), HGW, and the OST.

Oh there's also magic (or supposed to anyway) and that's cool.

It's fair enough that people hate the way it slice and dices the routes, strips away the detail, and makes everyone seem that much more braindead, the animation quality is definitely quite dated, but it definitely wasn't so bad even if it's just by virtue of the remnants of Nasu's good ideas.

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Question: Why is Parasyte so gud?
I still haven't gotten to watching it, but the manga is the sort of great source material that really would lend itself to goodness on screen.
Nov 13, 2014 8:01 AM

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I'm not bothered by the pacing of Akatsuki no Yona, since with the lates 1-2 episode it finally gets going. Sure, I'm not a big fan of the flashback and flash-forwards either, but they don't ruin the potential of the premise imo. By episode 6 things are looking up and I'M just hoping the show is slow because it can afford to be slow, meaning that it gets 2cour or more. Because nothing would hurt a setting like this more than an adaptiion that is cut short.

As for Donten ni Warau, I don't see the battle shounen elements either (especially since it's shoujo ^^). It has a lot of mystery aspects and fantasy going on and it's not too predictable so for now I'm enjoying it. One of the good things is that I'm still unsure as to where the plot will lead (unlike Akatsuki no Yona which was pretty obvious about that).
I probably regret this post by now.
Nov 13, 2014 8:14 AM

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For Donten, I can't see how its copying Bleach even if I've read most of Bleach (minus the newer arcs) but i guess it copies the politics and Soul Society mechanics a bit.

I think that Yona's flashback kind of style is done well but it can be tedious for impatient people who watch an episode per week. The entire show seems like it'd be better if marathoned actually. The flash forward was very out of place though.
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Akatsuki no Yona was excellent from the start.


lolnope.

After the third episode I got tired of waiting for them to get to the fucking point, so I dropped.
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NieA Under 7 looks quite underrated until know, but I guess this isn't what people are looking for in anime. Oh, can't help but love. Amazing pacing and atmosphere. Relaxing atmospheric Slice of Life that deals with poverty in a very comic way. Lol, I'm really surprised with how good this is, a true hidden gem. Was quite hard to find it subbed.
Nov 14, 2014 3:04 PM

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More people need to watch WIXOSS. Such a fun ride.
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NieA Under 7 looks quite underrated until know, but I guess this isn't what people are looking for in anime. Oh, can't help but love. Amazing pacing and atmosphere. Relaxing atmospheric Slice of Life that deals with poverty in a very comic way. Lol, I'm really surprised with how good this is, a true hidden gem. Was quite hard to find it subbed.


Your description sounds like what I hoped for when I tried to watch the show, but I ended up being utterly disappointed :/.
Imo it was just a bunch of cheap and generic jokes and characters and totally wasted the sci-fi setting that had some potential. The best thing about it were the visuals which looked similar to Haibane Renmei due to having the same director. I can easily enjoy most s-o-l shows and I particularly like sci-fi settings but I still found it too boring and generic to watch for more than 3 episodes :(
I guess it just wasn't for me unless you tell me it drastically improves after the first 3 episodes.
I probably regret this post by now.
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Higashi_no_Kaze said:
Kolnikov said:
NieA Under 7 looks quite underrated until know, but I guess this isn't what people are looking for in anime. Oh, can't help but love. Amazing pacing and atmosphere. Relaxing atmospheric Slice of Life that deals with poverty in a very comic way. Lol, I'm really surprised with how good this is, a true hidden gem. Was quite hard to find it subbed.


Your description sounds like what I hoped for when I tried to watch the show, but I ended up being utterly disappointed :/.
Imo it was just a bunch of cheap and generic jokes and characters and totally wasted the sci-fi setting that had some potential. The best thing about it were the visuals which looked similar to Haibane Renmei due to having the same director. I can easily enjoy most s-o-l shows and I particularly like sci-fi settings but I still found it too boring and generic to watch for more than 3 episodes :(
I guess it just wasn't for me unless you tell me it drastically improves after the first 3 episodes.


Oh that's a pity. I watched just 3 episodes as well, so can't tell. Well, it seems like I have the opposite opinion. For me was refreshing and fun, with a captivating soundtrack on the background and a very nice overall mood.

As for the jokes, I think I haven't heard any '-'. I thought it was quite funny, but more because how the characters behave and how the story is told. I mean, everything around them is a mess, and they have to deal with quite complicated problems, but still it's a fairly happy and easy going story.

It reminds me of the middle of Haibane Renmei somehow, when the characters were just chatting and doing activities all around. Anyway, the way I see it, NieA Under 7 is a simple SoL that isn't trying to be something else, and the Sci-fi elements seemed just background for me since the first episode. Either way, I could tell you some thoughts as I go further, but I don't know what exactly you're expecting from it.
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mayukachan said:

Akatsuki no Yona was excellent from the start.


lolnope.

After the third episode I got tired of waiting for them to get to the fucking point, so I dropped.

What point are you referring to? And I still think it's excellent from the start. lol It reminds me of last seasons' Nobunaga Concerto (one of my top 3 of the season) because of the historical feeling and intensity.

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More people need to watch WIXOSS. Such a fun ride.

I find it too try-hard and forcibly grimdark. :/ I didn't think I'd dislike it more than Madoka.
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I don't think it's possible to lay on Shoujo tropes more thickly than that show did in the first 3 episodes.
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I don't think it's possible to lay on Shoujo tropes more thickly than that show did in the first 3 episodes.

It did? Which tropes are we talking about? If anything, it was not similar to the normal shoujo anime out there.
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mayukachan said:
BotatoPriest said:
More people need to watch WIXOSS. Such a fun ride.

I find it too try-hard and forcibly grimdark. :/ I didn't think I'd dislike it more than Madoka.
While I liked the 1st season for its ominous dark atmosphere , more mature handling of an incest relationship and some remote themes.
Selector Spread is fucking around making every side character into a complete obsessive sociopathic sadistic bitch, the drama and "suffering" is so overblown it reaches camp level where it becomes laughable.

Lovecraftian Ponzi Scheme(LRIG exchange) my ass... And the comic relief is cringe as well, either pointing out the suffering or rejoicing for character tropes, thinking it's self-aware.

Still a fun watch though.
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I only find it incredibly cheesy at times, but other than that it's fun. Kinda odd but so far the characters haven't bothered me much in the second season, despite my dislike of the over the top insanity characters are exhibiting currently.
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mayukachan said:
fst said:
I don't think it's possible to lay on Shoujo tropes more thickly than that show did in the first 3 episodes.

It did? Which tropes are we talking about? If anything, it was not similar to the normal shoujo anime out there.


I like the show but the fantasy setting alone doesn't make it void of any shoujo tropes. The whole 'love triangle' with her, Hak and Su-won is pretty clichéd, just like her still having feelings for the man who killed her father in front of her own eyes. In terms of romance it is a very typical shoujo setup, but it's embedded in a much more interesting concept and story than your usual highschool drama.

Anyway, dropping a show because it takes its time to set up things strikes me as typical for our low-attention-span times. I wasn't surprised to see you only have 4 shows that are longer than 2-cour on your completed list if stuff like that bothers you (fst) that much :P.
If it ends up just being a 1-cour with that pace it will definitely suck, but there are countless great 2cour or longer shows that aren't even close to 'getting to the point' after 3 episodes. I don't think a good show SHOULD get to the point after only 3 episodes, unless it's 1-cour maybe. The lack of being able to take their time and properly introduce and set up things is one of the most annoying things about the modern tradition of having shorter and shorter anime seasons, imo. So even though some of the directing in the early Yona episodes was questionable, I still appreciate their approach and just hope it's a sign that the show is planned to be a bit longer and not end without ever climaxing like Nobunaga Concerto.
I probably regret this post by now.
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To be fair to fst, he currently suffers under "soul-crushing" maths, so he probably has little time/patience for long shows outside of Gundam, because as we all know, Gundam is perfection.

Speaking of Concerto, does anybody know how the anime compares with the manga? The pacing especially. I'd assume from the anime that it just galloped through everything at break-neck speed, but I haven't actually seen anyone talk about the manga (not that i've done any real looking.)
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Ckan said:
To be fair to fst, he currently suffers under "soul-crushing" maths, so he probably has little time/patience for long shows outside of Gundam, because as we all know, Gundam is perfection.


Every single part of this statement is wrong.
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Ckan said:
Speaking of Concerto, does anybody know how the anime compares with the manga? The pacing especially. I'd assume from the anime that it just galloped through everything at break-neck speed, but I haven't actually seen anyone talk about the manga (not that i've done any real looking.)

From what I've seen skimming through the manga, the anime more or less followed a chapter an episode up to roughly halfway. In ep. 10
This happens in Ch. 38 of the manga, end of volume 7. Volume 8 was when Yasuke is introduced. Plenty character development was skipped.
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Sieg Zeon!
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