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Dec 26, 2014 10:09 PM
#751
fantastic show but i do have a few qualms with it 1. Natsuno was really pushed aside in the second half. I really loved him in the first half and his personality and i really wanted to see how he changed post death, they could have done a lot more with him and its a shame we only got like 5 min of him in hte secon half of the show. 2. they never really had a fulfilling ending. There was no point in time where the villagers realized how fucked up they were or whats gonna happen to them because of the fire. Basically the ending was way too open. 3, The shiki live on. just give us a sequel then. I'd love it 4. This is person really but Muroi survived. Fuck that guy, hated him so much. Really, the dude betrayed his best friend, and humanity, and killed his own mom and another villager. Fuck i really wished we saw him gruesomely die. Well, thats ALL the bad i could say about the show, but honestly, it was really amazing. The amount of refreshing i got when i was trying to solve the mystery of what was going on in the town. Natsuno and tohrus struggles. Toshio's struggles. All of it was amazing. thats why this is getting a 9/10 from me. Great show |
Dec 30, 2014 8:07 PM
#752
I loved this anime so much. but I want to know what happens to sunako X_X |
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Jan 5, 2015 4:15 AM
#753
Welp I'm disappointed. It got pretty apparent when the Shiki tried to explain their way of life that the story was spinning to sympathize with the Shiki and make humans out to be the real evil. HOWEVER, let us never forget that the Shiki killed (as in people who didn't rise) a boatload of people. That one chick's ENTIRE family didn't rise, including her, I'll guesstimate, 7 year old son. That little boy will never go to middle school, high school, get married, have kids, NOTHING, because he was murdered, like the children they kidnapped from the city. I think of it this way. Excuse me for not remembering names but here goes: That nurse held on with willpower ALONE!! Meanwhile, Sunako, who is probably like 800 years old btw and beyond ready to move on, is going on about how she doesn't have a choice in the matter. By showing the nurse's resolve and the old big guy's last words to Sunako AND Yuuki's impartiality the makers swung the story back around to say "even if the humans got a bit crazy, immortal demons that feed on others to survive just isn't right after all". What I absolutely hated was how Sunako, being the OLDEST person around, was so timid in the face of death. Like I said before, she's probably like 1000 years old or something. She seemed to think that her extended stay on Earth was her right or something. So she gets to live for a billion years, but at the expense of old people, middle aged people and children. I was really disappointed that the monk saved her in the end. I knew he was on her side ever since she told him that she read his books............ As for the doctor, he actually kept a pretty level head throughout the whole Shiki hunt. I've seen that people said that he took it too far, but his line in the sand was pretty clear. 1. We're not KILLING people (Shiki have already died once and killing implies that you are taking life away from someone living; that's why he was hesitant to kill the wereowlves. In his opinion, and I concur, they are merely returning them to their graves.) 2. We're not killing PEOPLE (even if they've been controlled by a Shiki, with some rest they'll return to themselves; the doctor understood that the difference between a person who was being controlled by the Shiki and a person who had already become one.) 3. WE'RE NOT KILLING PEOPLE!!! (Anybody remember in D. Gray Man how happy people were to be freed of the Millenium Earl's curse? I figure it's like that for people who don't want to be controlled by the Shiki. Yuuki even brought it up in that last battle. Like the nurse, there were others who didn't want to be Shiki and were forced to listen to the Kirishiki family. By returning them to death, they were putting those people to rest.) I'm angry that Sunako survived. It also appears that the monk has been turned into a Shiki. Now they will go to another location and start ALL over. Killing people and making puppets out of people who rise. Or maybe they'll give up forever, and live in a fancy cottage in the woods somewhere (I can dream). To answer the doctor's question at the end, I'd say that he won. There are no more Shiki in the village (since they had killed all of them) and village can be rebuilt. People can't be replaced. if he had not commenced with his plan the whole town would either be dead or marionettes to the relic posing as a little girl in that ostentatious mansion. Lastly (I know it's so much!) I--optimistically--would like to believe that Yuuki is still alive. Anytime they don't show a death straight up it leaves room for hope, like with the mummy and the monk (I don't mean to be crude to her....but her time is up). |
Jan 9, 2015 7:34 PM
#754
I thoroughly enjoyed watching through Shiki and found myself cheering the humans on after they started to regain back what is rightfully theirs to begin with. Although, it was the sort of show that you couldn't really get attached to any character, mostly because they could disappear at any moment. As far as characters go, Tomio (the epic bearded guy) was a clear favourite for me and I'm happy he didn't go out earlier than he did. I didn't trust Seishin (priest) from the start and that looked like a good choice. Toshio (doctor) was almost the only one to keep a leveled head on the entire thing - overall, a well balanced bunch of characters. It did however, seem a bit squashed in the last episode, maybe they should've expanded to 26 episodes in the end. I'd be interested in seeing a sequel, but given the age of this one, I wouldn't hold my breath over it. |
AversaFeb 12, 2015 12:41 PM
Jan 23, 2015 4:06 AM
#755
I cant fucking believe how much the ending sucked...oh my God. I want to smash my laptop right now! -_- This is unfair, why did the monk and Sunako survived, that monk was such a first class imbecile, he defended that stupid vampire girl till very end eventhough she was the root of all evil and killed thousands of innocent people...they both deserved to die in agony And I cant believe that there are people in this thread who defend Shikis...they came to a peaceful village and KILLED INNOCENT PEOPLE. Whats wrong with you psychopaths? |
Jan 23, 2015 10:56 AM
#756
Jan 29, 2015 7:21 AM
#757
First of all, only an idiot would comment or say that it was the human's fault. The biggest argument here, as short as possible, are here: 1.) Probability: How many human beings today are born and will kill another human being to survive? Out of 7 billion people, there are probably 7 million at maximum, and all of these assumptions are being predicated from the remote areas of the world where environment has been an absolute nightmare. That's 0.01% right there! So, how many Shiki kills in their lifetime? That's right: ONE-HUNDRED FREAKING PERCENT, 100%! It's unbelievable how you could even defend what the Shiki have had done in the lifetime. Although they are pretty few, they could easily propagate because a.) lack of resources as their population has increased; and b.) their power to hypnotize. 2.) Cognitive Dissonance: Sunako. The girl that started everything. There's a saying, "It's not your fault if you were born poor, but it's your fault if you die poor." Not as tact as one may suggest, but it also correlates to Sunako. The girl wasn't born a Shiki, but she morphed into one, it was not here fault at all. She was young and she was afraid. But, she lived for hundreds of years already. She could have said, "Oh, yes, I think I've done my part here, I'm outliving freaking C.C. from Code Geass, there's no point anymore on influencing my beliefs to others." Also, don't give me that excuses that she was young and didn't mature. The girl was extremely adept in literature and observations. She had read probably tens of thousands of books in her lifetime. She knew what she was doing and with all the talk about, "All death is equal. Blah. Blah. Blah. No death is terrible," was hilarious when she was begging for her life. Biggest example of this was Ritsuko, the nurse: if a freaking young nurse who had a lot of future ahead of her can endure hunger and die without regretting on killing her fellow human, then what the hell was Sunako even b*t*hing about? Overall: The episodes where the humans killed many Shiki were greatly exaggerated. It was to the point that you would really think the director or author was Animefreak17a. How about showing us over and over again how the Shiki killed a weakened child? Such a terrible ending with a wannabee "moral" lesson: Humans are bad and will always be bad. Hilarious. The potential was really high and could have come close to Shin Sekai Yori if it was guided accordingly. 5/10. P.S. What the f%#k was that Muroi character? One of the most useless characters in anime horror story. Dude just showed up at the end and spouted nonsense and having a pretentious-existentialism-speech . Probably was a closet loli. |
AversaFeb 12, 2015 12:42 PM
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Feb 1, 2015 2:11 AM
#758
Oh_Hi_Mark said: First of all, only an idiot would comment or say that it was the human's fault. The biggest argument here, as short as possible, are here: 1.) Probability: How many human beings today are born and will kill another human being to survive? Out of 7 billion people, there are probably 7 million at maximum, and all of these assumptions are being predicated from the remote areas of the world where environment has been an absolute nightmare. That's 0.01% right there! So, how many Shiki kills in their lifetime? That's right: ONE-HUNDRED FREAKING PERCENT, 100%! It's unbelievable how you could even defend what the Shiki have had done in the lifetime. Although they are pretty few, they could easily propagate because a.) lack of resources as their population has increased; and b.) their power to hypnotize. 2.) Cognitive Dissonance: Sunako. The girl that started everything. There's a saying, "It's not your fault if you were born poor, but it's your fault if you die poor." Not as tact as one may suggest, but it also correlates to Sunako. The girl wasn't born a Shiki, but she morphed into one, it was not here fault at all. She was young and she was afraid. But, she lived for hundreds of years already. She could have said, "Oh, yes, I think I've done my part here, I'm outliving freaking C.C. from Code Geass, there's no point anymore on influencing my beliefs to others." Also, don't give me that excuses that she was young and didn't mature. The girl was extremely adept in literature and observations. She had read probably tens of thousands of books in her lifetime. She knew what she was doing and with all the talk about, "All death is equal. Blah. Blah. Blah. No death is terrible," was hilarious when she was begging for her life. Biggest example of this was Ritsuko, the nurse: if a freaking young nurse who had a lot of future ahead of her can endure hunger and die without regretting on killing her fellow human, then what the hell was Sunako even b*t*hing about? Overall: The episodes where the humans killed many Shiki were greatly exaggerated. It was to the point that you would really think the director or author was Animefreak17a. How about showing us over and over again how the Shiki killed a weakened child? Such a terrible ending with a wannabee "moral" lesson: Humans are bad and will always be bad. Hilarious. The potential was really high and could have come close to Shin Sekai Yori if it was guided accordingly. 5/10. P.S. What the f%#k was that Muroi character? One of the most useless characters in anime horror story. Dude just showed up at the end and spouted nonsense and having a pretentious-existentialism-speech . Probably was a closet loli. Your humans did bad things too...chapter 33 of the manga and chapter 41. But I don't expect a hick like you to understand.....you just let it slide. You have mental issues thinking humans are pure good.......you seriously need to take a good look at the world. But again human supporters like you are living in a fantasy just like those hick humans in the village.....willing to do what ever it takes to keep there fantasy village that threatens a old man to do his job that he didn't even won't. If anything your the mental one here |
AversaFeb 12, 2015 12:43 PM
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Feb 4, 2015 6:37 AM
#759
Is Muroi a closet pedophile? He gave up everything to be with a little girl that will stay looking like a little girl forever. Its rediculous how antikilling he is to the doctor but never once says anything to the shikis about how killing humans is wrong. Why is he so horrified at killing shikis but seemingly okay with humans dying by shikis? |
Feb 6, 2015 10:55 AM
#760
Goldfire said: Animefreak17a said: I'm guessing your a hick because of your lack of understanding the shiki....And I'm right that you have an extremely low IQ like most human supporters. I'll give you a piece of advice, if you're going to try and insult someone's intelligence, at least get the correct usage of your/then/etc. I never directly insulted the Shiki supporters either, if anything, I'm insulting you based on your walls of text and delusions. Anyway, I'm done with this one, you're a hopeless troll, but I'll give you an A+ for making me laugh so much. Have a good one! You human supporters are all the same.... The shiki are monsters Migumi got what she deserved Sunako doesn't deserve to be felt sorry for Ect And you completely let everything the humans have done...slide The temple massacre The humans forcing people to play rolls in the village Threatening people to play there rolls in the village. The way they killed migumi Killing there fellow humans in the pipes Killing a old man that could of been tied up to let the effects wear off. That bearded bastard beating his son for no reason The way he tormented sunako in the temple The way they dealt with the shiki in the pipe episode. The doctor experimenting on his wife knowing she was still her self from when she was human. The humans had it coming Yeah you human supporters just let all that slide. The shiki just wanted a place to call home and they knew they would never be accepted by the humans because of what they are and that was the reason why they did what they did...... Not out of malice Not evil intentions Or was mindless zombies Or anything They just wanted a home to get away from the hatred of humanity. If they did do it out of evil intent or was mindless zombies then id be on your side...but you lack the understanding to look at it from the shikis point of view. Iv read the manga and watched the anime and know a few things about the novel and I know more then what your ..............humans good....shiki bad......minds do. It's all humans are pure good even tho they did do horrible things.......sorry what horrible things? Your the one here who lacks understanding here mate not me. But what do you expect from human supporters. |
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Feb 11, 2015 3:53 AM
#761
Nice series with an interesting ending. In the end neither side really "won", they both lost. I probably favoured the humans since the shiki were the ones who invaded their town with the intention of controlling it. However, both sides did awful things and I can see the reasoning of both sides. Good story, definitely makes you think. |
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Feb 19, 2015 4:24 PM
#762
I really enjoyed hammer and head slam scenes.Wish she suffered more... The thing that annoyed me the most is the little bitch clinging to her worthless life so desperatly, after everything she has done. “The only ones who should kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.” Overall, ending was a disappointing. |
Mar 11, 2015 11:00 PM
#763
Oh Shiki! I just binge watched you today and I gotta say it was a pretty good ride! My final score would be a solid 8/10. Firstly, the whole village being destroyed: I don't mind it. The remaining villagers can probably rebuild and start anew. It might be better that way. Akira and Kaori: This is something I was disappointed with. They just kind of... popped up. No explanation really. Natsuno was there so maybe you were just supposed to assume that he saved them both or something but idk. Wish we would have saw what those two were up to along the way. Muroi and Sunako: I feel meh about this. I don't mind so much that Sunako lived but I just couldn't help but not like Muroi. I don't know. I'm assuming that Sunako was in that suitcase at the end, honestly. Megumi: I felt bad but that was a satisfyingly gruesome death. Hardcore. Overall with this series, it had a good premise. The storytelling and the pacing was a little meh towards the end. But it had me curious and hooked the whole time. You shall be missed Shiki! |
Mar 12, 2015 8:13 PM
#764
Pretty alright series. For the most have it got real good after the doctor founded out about the shiki. The second half got good, but also lost a lot of its self. Like why the hell didn't the Shiki use any weapons? I mean with their abilities they could have easy fucked everybody up. Anyway I enjoyed the second half. Hated the dumass open OPEN ending this had. 7/10. |
Mar 15, 2015 1:34 PM
#765
Celestrial2 said: Natsuno was really pushed aside in the second half. I really loved him in the first half and his personality and i really wanted to see how he changed post death, they could have done a lot more with him and its a shame we only got like 5 min of him in hte secon half of the show. This is my take on this subject. Once Natsuno died, he had already "lost". His story in the tale was over and the only thing that remained was his vengeance. He always knew he was going to "die" in the end and accepted this fact. He was used as a tool by Ozaki, who had taken Natsuno's place in fighting the Shiki. I never had a problem with the amount of time he was shown even though I loved his character. In the novels, he actually didn't come to life after Tohru bit him. So in some way, the manga author tried to keep as close to the original story as possible, but wanted some realistic advantage for Ozaki to combat the shiki. This is how Natsuno the jinrou was born. You have to admit though, his final scene with Tatsumi was 10/10. |
Mar 15, 2015 8:31 PM
#766
Kinda disappointed with the ending, manga's ending isn't that great either but there's more closure to it. Had a good time watching this show despite it's flaws here and there, thought it was pretty stupid how some characters like Natsuno just died, what I thought the show did great was that how in the end when the villagers figured out the shiki were living around them that they themselves turned into beasts within the next morning, that even they started to look inhuman at some points. |
Mar 30, 2015 12:31 AM
#767
I wish the junior monk and Sunako dies. Too bad the badass man also died. I really like when they killed Megumi XDDD I wish her dead from the 1st ep. The rest is okay. It has been amazing ride and satisfying thou. 8/10 |
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Apr 5, 2015 7:00 PM
#768
Can someone explain to me Muroi's motivation? He says that killing is not justice, which is fair. But he ends up joining the Shiki who have killed so many villagers. Isn't that hypocritical of him to judge Toshio for experimenting on his risen wife, but have no qualms about joining a group that turns villagers KNOWING that many of them will just die without rising? I seriously don't understand Muroi's actions. It's one thing for him to befriend Sunako because she read his novels, it's another for him to completely betray his species. |
Apr 24, 2015 9:07 AM
#770
greendaze said: Can someone explain to me Muroi's motivation? He says that killing is not justice, which is fair. But he ends up joining the Shiki who have killed so many villagers. Isn't that hypocritical of him to judge Toshio for experimenting on his risen wife, but have no qualms about joining a group that turns villagers KNOWING that many of them will just die without rising? I seriously don't understand Muroi's actions. It's one thing for him to befriend Sunako because she read his novels, it's another for him to completely betray his species. Easy the shiki didn't do it out of malice but for a place to call home......It's not like they can just asked the humans if they can stay. The humans forced there life style on to the monk and the humans got what was coming to them |
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May 17, 2015 9:14 AM
#771
The ending was not satisfactory what would have happened if they would have extended it a bit longer (2 or 3 episodes). The feels..when Megumi sees natsuno's image as a flashback it was heart wrenching somehow ! Natsuno didn't have any hope to live that's bad he still could have lived for a reason. |
May 21, 2015 8:27 AM
#772
good to see them all die. The slaughtering of the Shiki was real fun to watch. Shitty creatures don't even need to kill but they do it anyway. Don't bite the same human more than twice? how about that? Tell them to forget you ever existed and move on. I know it's done for the sake of having this story at all but tbese kind of plot holes still annoy me. Sactisfactory final episodes and had a nice buildup. 7/10 |
May 31, 2015 10:02 PM
#773
Well till now my rating for this anime was 9 out of 10 but now it is decreased as the ending was a little complicated....not as clear as i was expecting it to be. First of all what happened to the old lady who was saying trying to tell all the villagers that Kanemasa people are shikis and they are behind all the murders but no one believed her? and how that akira tanaka was still alive....I thought he was killed by that shiki?! and then the ending.....who placed that fire in the forest? where did Sunako and Muroi-san went in that blue car? why were Akira, his sister, Natsuno's dad, Kanami Yano and that fat nurse still in the village? how did they survive.....uhhh so many questions....the last episode was like a cliffhanger......i loved the series but really unhappy about the ending!!! |
Jun 2, 2015 10:32 PM
#774
Had high hopes for a good finale but this just turned into a huge bloodbath with tidbits of philosophical issues regarding survival whenever Sunako had screen time. I'm guessing they purposely used Sunako as the centerpiece for the Shiki since viewers would feel sorry for the little goth girl. Some people siding with the Shiki make me cringe with their logic but it's easy being edgy when you have to compare the entirety of humans versus Shiki, who only have an anime and manga to defend their kind. There's a lot to be said about Shiki and humans but in the end, it's not worth it. It always seems to result in Shiki being the 'poor souls didn't be chosen to rise' and humans 'the most brutal animals on Earth.' |
Jun 8, 2015 1:34 AM
#775
The entire series was quite entertaining, despite the slow start it did eventually pick up and keep me hooked every single time. But these last few episodes were just straight up crazy, especially how it seems most of the humans had pretty much broken down mentally and seemed to find enjoyment in torturing the Shikis and kill them eventually. At least Sunako and Muroi managed to survive, that was more than enough for me, though the ending was such an annoying cliffhanger with several questions left unanswered. 8/10. |
Jun 10, 2015 11:20 AM
#776
devinder said: Had high hopes for a good finale but this just turned into a huge bloodbath with tidbits of philosophical issues regarding survival whenever Sunako had screen time. I'm guessing they purposely used Sunako as the centerpiece for the Shiki since viewers would feel sorry for the little goth girl. Some people siding with the Shiki make me cringe with their logic but it's easy being edgy when you have to compare the entirety of humans versus Shiki, who only have an anime and manga to defend their kind. There's a lot to be said about Shiki and humans but in the end, it's not worth it. It always seems to result in Shiki being the 'poor souls didn't be chosen to rise' and humans 'the most brutal animals on Earth.' It's the same with me and human supporters... you lot make me angry as hell and and you keep saying...... humans good shiki bad...... talk about black and white.... -_-.... but what do you expect from a human supporter |
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Jun 27, 2015 4:39 AM
#777
That was terrible, I was hoping that it would at least offer some resolution, but even that it couldn't do. The show left way too many 'subplots' open with no resolution, and if they were resolved, those were off-screened. :/ There were also many inconsistencies within the series. The final 'arc' was terrible, it was way too one-sided, and the supposed humans' evil / desperation was sort of forced, in the end it tried to rob some pity points off us towards the shiki, but it was overdone. For example, the Megumi scene, it really looked like they were toying with her, knocking her around with vehicles, crushing her arm and head, like.. for real? Even if she's a shiki, she is still just a girl. -_- Had high hope for this, but I must say that I am terribly disappointed. Edit: Oh ya, I also disliked how the series keep jumping back and forth in time. Also, the soundtracks and the placement sucked. The directing was meh and the tears was too comedic. Many characters just feel pointless in the end. |
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Jul 26, 2015 2:15 PM
#778
Muroi and Sunako should have died, that's a pity that they survived because I really hate them. I hope their car hit a tree, exploded and both of them died... Overall 9/10, it was really enjoyable anime and it would be nice if there was a second season (maybe located in another village, with Dr Ozaki appearing at the end and hunting Shikis down?). |
Jul 29, 2015 7:41 AM
#779
centurionix said: nope in the manga she and the monk got away... too bad hick supporterMuroi and Sunako should have died, that's a pity that they survived because I really hate them. I hope their car hit a tree, exploded and both of them died... Overall 9/10, it was really enjoyable anime and it would be nice if there was a second season (maybe located in another village, with Dr Ozaki appearing at the end and hunting Shikis down?). |
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Aug 13, 2015 6:04 PM
#780
Megamui's death... ffs Well, aside from a couple or three instances, it was a pretty tame finale compared to the last few episodes. In short, everybody dies except for the characters I cared about most (which I would not have necessarily mind dying for additional emotional impact). The ending fits the tone of the series and I'm content it's left rather open, that the cycle continues, and we don't know the ultimate fates that befall the main characters. This was a really thought provoking and philosophical series, and I'd be hard pressed to find another vampire story with this much depth. Due to its oppressive atmosphere and snail pacing, it is a horror to marathon, but I loved it all the same. Probably the only major fault of the series is its tremendous cast of supporting characters, all of which seeming largely irrelevant to the plot as a whole. In the end, I still don't know which side was wrong, and I'm glad it ended that way. Throwing bias towards either side would've ruined the show. |
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Aug 15, 2015 11:21 PM
#781
Just finished the series :D and I have to say that it was the one of the only two animes that made me feel so much heartfelt rage at some characters. Superb in plot and plain ol' visceral emotion, at least for my standards :3 Unfortunately, I have to rate this anime 0/10 for reasons below: A couple parts that were confusing and/or didn't like: 1. I still don't really get the Cain/Abel metaphor. At first I though Cain was Natsuno, 'cause of hair, and then I though it was Toshio, 'cause anime practically feeds you doctor/priest duality, and then apparently at the end, it's Sunako...which makes sense but I really thought it was Toshio because that made more sense. Abel is obviously Seishin, that I know at least. 2. Lack of background on Sunako's friends until the very end made it harder to sympathize with them 3. Unclear metaphor portrayed the Shiki as too good IMO. Most people would stack Shiki bad points v human bad points like this: Human: kill each other pointlessly, kill innocents, foolishly ignore danger, cruel, did not try to understand Shiki and cooperate to come up with a solution Shiki: foolishly ignore danger, cruel because they taunt humans before killing them, did not try to cooperate with humans (or maybe they did a long time ago, idk) But the major sin of Shikis, which comes from forcing someone to become one as a natural result of feeding, is that they destroy a person's identity without their permission. Even though this was supposed to be obvious (crazy mother Shiki newborn tries to turn her family, aka bring back a part of her human identity, but epic fail; Natsuno hating the risen because they killed him aka killed his identity--his dream of leaving the village to start anew, Seishin destroying his old identity by being reborn, etc etc) I feel like it wasn't clear enough. So for some reason the Shiki don't really get as much of a bad rap as I would've thought. Even though the Shiki kill to survive, they still do as much damage as the humans do. I mean feeding either takes away a person's freedom of life or it takes away their identity and freedom to not have to live sucking blood (look how well nurse-San fared when she exercised her freedom of choice. Dead lol) 4. But I goddam hate the ending. Why would you let the nasty duo survive, for Pete's sake? Are you looking to make a sequel? Sunako I can maybe write off because she's got the mindset of a spoiled elementary schooler and has nursed anti-human sentiments for lots of years to deal with her powers and sudden abandonment, but Seishin? Holy flying mackerel for the love of everything good why would you let that scum live? Just to prove to us that poetic justice doesn't exist? Fuk you, Shtshin because you needed to abandon your mother and village, save an egomaniacal little mass-murderer, and possibly put other towns in danger in the future, all in order to realize that maybe you could've just said no to the priest position. What did you fear, your family abandoning you? Well, they're all dead now. Do you really think that you and Miss I'm-a-mass-murderer are one and the same? You were happy to wave your finger at Toshio when he tortured his wife, stick around with little Miss Mass-murderer and we'll see if you can still do the same. Where did your justice go? I hate this character. Please kill will change rating from 0/10 back to 10/10 if so But it was a really great anime :D Edit: made tone milder, some people couldn't take language |
LamontledAug 23, 2015 7:33 AM
Aug 18, 2015 3:49 PM
#782
Hmmm. It was a pretty meh predictable finale I suppose. Ending seemed a tad abrupt to me. How the heck did Akira survive his predicament? Rather disappointed with this show overall. Too slow, way too many redundant characters (some of which I had high hopes for) that never really amounted to anything. I'll have to expand on this a bit later with a review. |
Sep 1, 2015 3:50 PM
#783
It ended how it started with how they were searching for Megumi. And it ended with Megumi's death, too. I can't deal with this... I liked her despite all of her flaws esp. how she wanted to live a modern city and hated the villagers. She was right in a way. An outdated village can't be saved. So Natsuno and Tatsumi both die with a dynamite... And Ozaki, Kaori and Akira (HOW?) live. Sunako and Muroi, too. Which makes me wonder what kind of ending is that? Some questions still need to be answered. Anyways, the village ended and I believe that's a good thing. The survivors will learn from this. In the end, I don't know... It was an amazing anime which showed humanity's real face once again but the ending needed something more.... Still a 10/10 |
Sep 2, 2015 11:14 PM
#784
muroi might be the most retarded character of all time. its one thing to not help kill the shiki, its quite another to fucking help them. fuck that guy. |
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Oct 28, 2015 11:06 PM
#785
i dont like how it end actually i want a remake make it that the shiki escape from human or shiki won fight the human at this anime i hate how people act so mean mean than the shiki especially the doctor the shiki is not bad like they think human only think too much |
Oct 30, 2015 12:59 PM
#786
TragicRomance said: And Ozaki, Kaori and Akira (HOW?) live. Sunako and Muroi, too. Which makes me wonder what kind of ending is that? Some questions still need to be answered. unfortunately they didnt adapt the manga part where is shown that Natsuno saves Akira and Kaori. Specially Kaori, he was really protective of her. |
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Nov 22, 2015 6:03 PM
#787
megumi's death was fucked up, even though i didn't care much for her but i did feel feel bad for me the worst death was tohru and ricchan :( overall this was a really good anime - it was slow at certain areas, but it had excellent development and a really good plot i do feel the ending was a bit rushed though |
Nov 30, 2015 12:35 AM
#788
Aw man. That was pretty crazy! Magumis dead was sad I felt so bad. It was a great series. So happy sunako was okay she was my favorite. She's insanely cute. I almost thought she was gonna die and I was not going to be happy. But now I really want to know what happens after. Where will they go!? Will it be rebuilt!? Where will sunako and muroi go!? Why did natsuno died!? He a hero haha. I loved it though 8/10 |
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Dec 14, 2015 11:29 PM
#789
The series started out pretty iffy for me, but I'm glad I stuck around for the first few "exposition" episodes in order to get hooked. As far as the ending, I was pretty pleased. This was the kind of show, in my opinion, where looser endings are acceptable, but even so, they tied up most things pretty nicely. Good: - Megumi's death was good. Pretty poetic how she was complaining as the villagers nonchalantly ignored her, just as they did while she was alive. - I personally liked how Natsuno died. I never really especially liked him as a character, but I respected him as the character he was, and I'm glad he lived and died with the same lack of conviction and care. - Ookawa was cool, eliminating everyone without prejudice. He became one of my favorite characters in the last few episodes. - I was glad Toshio lived. I was worried that the villager who was given a gun and hypnotized to kill him would show up in the last few seconds to pull the trigger, but I'm glad that didn't happen. Toshio was definitely my favorite character throughout the series. Not so good: - I was hoping Seishin and Sunako would die. I never really felt any sympathy for Sunako, and I also never understood why Seishin switched to the Shiki side anyway. If they weren't going to get "justice" in the end, I would have at least liked some better explanation of why Seishin just suddenly was ok with the villagers dying, and why the Shiki just trusted him automatically. Overall, it was a good ending. 9/10 finale, 7/10 series. |
Dec 19, 2015 5:24 PM
#790
These last few episodes were crazy. I had no idea how this series was going to end but I didn't expect it to end like this. I'm in aww that it went this route. The series had some pacing issues, especially at the start were the show was really boring. But around episode 7 or so it picked up and grabbed my interest. This finale was better than the rest of the show by a lot. I'm just really looking forward to watching the specials and seeing what they're about. As a whole it was a good series but takes a while before it gets it stride. 8/10 |
Dec 20, 2015 8:13 PM
#791
Ending was pure BS. IMO, Ozaki's the only interesting character. The rest are forgettable and it feels like they're just forcing scenes so we could sympathize with those zombies. The only one I truly felt sorry for was Nao (on 20.5) and maybe Tohru. I also don't get what's glasses guy's deal. He's against murder but yet he sides with people who murders for a living? Some best friend he turned out to be. And how did that star haired kid survive? I knew the little goth loli would survive in the end unless that hypocrite traitor dies first. At least all that gore made it all worth it. |
Dec 24, 2015 5:52 PM
#792
The ending killed it for me, was afraid they were going to pussy out and not kill the one person that should be killed. What's the point, now they are just going to start another vampire lair in another village. Would have given this show 10 but with an ending like this I don't even know, 8 probably... Srs would have even forgiven the odd chin on every character lol. Yeah, let's just pussy out, forgive hundrets or even thousands of deaths and not kill the cause of all despair because she's "cute" "adorable" and whatnot. Jesus H Christ it's like damn Bethesda games with non killable children (thank God for the mods). |
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Jan 18, 2016 4:02 AM
#793
kevinhilt said: The series started out pretty iffy for me, but I'm glad I stuck around for the first few "exposition" episodes in order to get hooked. As far as the ending, I was pretty pleased. This was the kind of show, in my opinion, where looser endings are acceptable, but even so, they tied up most things pretty nicely. Good: - Megumi's death was good. Pretty poetic how she was complaining as the villagers nonchalantly ignored her, just as they did while she was alive. - I personally liked how Natsuno died. I never really especially liked him as a character, but I respected him as the character he was, and I'm glad he lived and died with the same lack of conviction and care. - Ookawa was cool, eliminating everyone without prejudice. He became one of my favorite characters in the last few episodes. - I was glad Toshio lived. I was worried that the villager who was given a gun and hypnotized to kill him would show up in the last few seconds to pull the trigger, but I'm glad that didn't happen. Toshio was definitely my favorite character throughout the series. Not so good: - I was hoping Seishin and Sunako would die. I never really felt any sympathy for Sunako, and I also never understood why Seishin switched to the Shiki side anyway. If they weren't going to get "justice" in the end, I would have at least liked some better explanation of why Seishin just suddenly was ok with the villagers dying, and why the Shiki just trusted him automatically. Overall, it was a good ending. 9/10 finale, 7/10 series. I have to agree as well. A monk is more of a "good guy" and I found it weird to betray his own race. |
Jan 24, 2016 5:42 PM
#794
Shiki kill humans because they want to survive. Humans kill shiki because they don't want to die. Kill to live. I can understand both sides. But wow SO many characters. Was kind of frustrating to see the humans do nothing but continue to be helpless and weak. Then comes the ending and they slaughter everyone. The great shiki massacre. And damn the OST is so good. Reminds me of another anime (Shin Sekai Yori?). |
Jan 31, 2016 7:04 PM
#795
Moonaticfairy said: HATE THE ENDING!!! Sunako and that fuckin' monk.... THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN KILLED! DAMN! I just cant even think about that damn monk. fuck him. Sunako.. damn brat. She started everything, she and that damn traitor will start everything all over somewhere else. I really really hate all those shikis and I cant believe those two were left. For me This is like most dissappointing anime ending I ever saw. As for the Natsuno.. yeah I was pretty sad about him blowing himself together with that cat-looking guy :D But he was not my favourite so that was ok xD Sad about village being burned down YAY for Megumi's death! I hated her since ep 1 and I was like praying for people to see her in the bushes! Of course her death was kinda cruel but I liked that :D Anyho nice anime. I would have given it 10, but after seeing the ending I ll give it 7/10 cause I am waaaaay too mad now. Totaly agree with you man... Thinks are too simple shikis kill people,so people kill shikis. They can't be together...But shikis play dirty game...They kill small kids whithout declaring a war they sneaky kill innocent and none of shiki are innocent! And...WTF shikis can't live without humas tho humas ofc can then why the F*ck do they mess with us ? are we livestock wtf and when human declares war...then shikis are like "I didnt chose to become one I had no choise I was eating to live) all started cause of 1 B*TCH 1000+/- died and broke their hurts....became psychopaths lost kids,parents and every bit of love they had incide of them cause of that litlle son of *****!!!!!!!! |
Jan 31, 2016 7:08 PM
#796
xoxo said: Ooblagato said: Best series I've seen in a while. I think I saw this anime from a different perspective than 'most everyone else. From my perspective the shiki weren't doing anything all that bad; I personally would have made the choice to become a shiki out of my own will including risks. When the town started murdering the shiki I realized just how much I hate prejudice/racism. Yes, racism the humans saw the shiki as evil because they have to drink blood to live, but is that such a bad thing? As natsuno said, if they talked it out there would be people willing to give some blood to keep them alive. (not to mention people who would be willing to become shiki) Awesome anime, with a bit of deep thinking it shows why and how the majority of humans are so stupid to the point that they do evil things. And with a little more thinking you can realize that anything that isn't consensual is evil. i thought quite the same thing! what if the cows would suddenly start killing off humans, because they are eating them? of course it would be a threat to the human race and it's not the humans fault.. for us it's okay to kill and destroy as we like.... but thats the human nature... feeling superior, thinking that they have the right to do what they want... aww man this anime contributed to my misanthropic side :D you are idiot...if u are not superior then go to the wild and die to a bear...DONT COME BACK GO DIE TO A F*CKING BEAR! you live cause of all that everyone wants to survive humas shikis and w/e ...Although humas was innocent and noone complained they had their family they was alright, then shikis came... they didnt ask for help they didnt search for doctor..They just F*cking random killed everyone innocent or not..destroyed families.If u are ok with that then plz lent me ur address I would like to kill you for no reason and your family just to give you the idea! Please if u are with shiki then Im a shiki give me your address I will Kill you! you are with me right? :) (IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!)) |
Feb 3, 2016 9:02 PM
#797
IntziSenpai said: xoxo said: Ooblagato said: Best series I've seen in a while. I think I saw this anime from a different perspective than 'most everyone else. From my perspective the shiki weren't doing anything all that bad; I personally would have made the choice to become a shiki out of my own will including risks. When the town started murdering the shiki I realized just how much I hate prejudice/racism. Yes, racism the humans saw the shiki as evil because they have to drink blood to live, but is that such a bad thing? As natsuno said, if they talked it out there would be people willing to give some blood to keep them alive. (not to mention people who would be willing to become shiki) Awesome anime, with a bit of deep thinking it shows why and how the majority of humans are so stupid to the point that they do evil things. And with a little more thinking you can realize that anything that isn't consensual is evil. i thought quite the same thing! what if the cows would suddenly start killing off humans, because they are eating them? of course it would be a threat to the human race and it's not the humans fault.. for us it's okay to kill and destroy as we like.... but thats the human nature... feeling superior, thinking that they have the right to do what they want... aww man this anime contributed to my misanthropic side :D you are idiot...if u are not superior then go to the wild and die to a bear...DONT COME BACK GO DIE TO A F*CKING BEAR! you live cause of all that everyone wants to survive humas shikis and w/e ...Although humas was innocent and noone complained they had their family they was alright, then shikis came... they didnt ask for help they didnt search for doctor..They just F*cking random killed everyone innocent or not..destroyed families.If u are ok with that then plz lent me ur address I would like to kill you for no reason and your family just to give you the idea! Please if u are with shiki then Im a shiki give me your address I will Kill you! you are with me right? :) (IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!)) Wow, please reread what you wrote and then tell me who the real idiot is :D By the way, the comment you quoted is almost 5 years old, why do you think I care about your opinion after all this time? ^^ Well, best wishes and I hope you do realize that Shiki aren't real. Chill out and spend your time with more positive shit than hating in an online forum. |
Feb 4, 2016 6:44 PM
#798
xoxo said: LOl I Dont care when the post was writen I don't care about your opinion either...but ppl who belived that shiki was the right is what I hate..I don't even care if It was from 50000 years ago I didn't ask you and I didn't even ask for your opinion did I ? lolIntziSenpai said: xoxo said: Ooblagato said: Best series I've seen in a while. I think I saw this anime from a different perspective than 'most everyone else. From my perspective the shiki weren't doing anything all that bad; I personally would have made the choice to become a shiki out of my own will including risks. When the town started murdering the shiki I realized just how much I hate prejudice/racism. Yes, racism the humans saw the shiki as evil because they have to drink blood to live, but is that such a bad thing? As natsuno said, if they talked it out there would be people willing to give some blood to keep them alive. (not to mention people who would be willing to become shiki) Awesome anime, with a bit of deep thinking it shows why and how the majority of humans are so stupid to the point that they do evil things. And with a little more thinking you can realize that anything that isn't consensual is evil. i thought quite the same thing! what if the cows would suddenly start killing off humans, because they are eating them? of course it would be a threat to the human race and it's not the humans fault.. for us it's okay to kill and destroy as we like.... but thats the human nature... feeling superior, thinking that they have the right to do what they want... aww man this anime contributed to my misanthropic side :D you are idiot...if u are not superior then go to the wild and die to a bear...DONT COME BACK GO DIE TO A F*CKING BEAR! you live cause of all that everyone wants to survive humas shikis and w/e ...Although humas was innocent and noone complained they had their family they was alright, then shikis came... they didnt ask for help they didnt search for doctor..They just F*cking random killed everyone innocent or not..destroyed families.If u are ok with that then plz lent me ur address I would like to kill you for no reason and your family just to give you the idea! Please if u are with shiki then Im a shiki give me your address I will Kill you! you are with me right? :) (IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!)) Wow, please reread what you wrote and then tell me who the real idiot is :D By the way, the comment you quoted is almost 5 years old, why do you think I care about your opinion after all this time? ^^ Well, best wishes and I hope you do realize that Shiki aren't real. Chill out and spend your time with more positive shit than hating in an online forum. |
Feb 13, 2016 1:21 PM
#799
This was an overall good ending. I just wish that they showed more of Natsuno's dad since in the manga they had him shoot Tatsumi into the pit and he says goodbye to his son one last time with Natsuno doing the same. It would of called for a much better ending. I also wanted Akira and Kaori to be shown being saved. Kaori was the one who killed her dad in the manga and she was parinoid as heck. She fanted when she saw Natsuno and found a note telling her to leave town. On the bus she sees Akira getting on and her face is priceless when they reunite with each other. Still in my opinion though Sheishin killing Ookawa was great. Sweet revenge for his mom but after that part they really should of just died in the fire .-. I'll probably rewatch this countless times just finished a rewatch recently. Loved it! |
Feb 17, 2016 5:19 AM
#800
So that little vampire girl survives was really a bad twist. Not a great ending, not bad either. Best thing about the show was the Doctor Toshio. Episodes from 17-21 were really good (raised my score from 4 to 6), the rest of the series (with the exception of the episode were Toshio make experiments on his risen wife) were; some average and some bad. Rating : 6/10 A little bit of Evaluation: Animation- 7 Art -7 (the characters design lowered this by 2) Sounds - 7 (Average OST,Average effects,very good voice acting) Story -5 ( silly themes, i dont like vampire stories, lacks horror elements, episode 17-22 raised this by 2) Characters - 6 ( Toshio raised this by 3, other characters are shit - all of them, but the show presented a good development of the characters ) Enjoyment - 7 ( again last episodes raised this by 2 ) it had a lot of boring episodes. Value - 5 Highly Recommended for Vampire story fans |
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