Zankyou no Terror Episode 6 Discussion

SkyJW said:


Because, as we all know, detonating several explosives in the largest metropolis on the planet and threatening the use of plutonium is all just a bunch of pranks and silly games. I remember when my friends and I did that back in highschool - we just gave back the radioactive material we stole from a facility in West Texas to the cops after blowing up the Willis Tower and several oil refineries. Rest assured, we had quite a few laughs after all that went down.

Novalogic said:
Up until now there weren't any major flaws, however please someone - explain to me just how did five target two people among thousands present on the airport? Just because they weren't workers there? Hell, 95% or so poeple in there weren't employees as well >.>

I hope there won't be any more illogical elements in the next episodes...

BRK25 said:
Because, their goal is not to murder anyone and is strictly to inform the public of something, they have something they like to reveal to the public but they need the public to listen. The government needs to be in fear and can't do anything to stop them. Now, if they blow up a place and people die...they are gonna be labeled as enemies. So far, they've been playing games but a death is gonna change the views of the public into a negative light and no one's gonna listen to them. This goes hand in hand at the problems of no listeners and police creating campaigns to adivse against anything they have to say.

BRK25 said:
Also, remember that Five is part of the FBI and not from the Police Department. Tot he public, they think it is Sphinx and killing innocent people is gonna be blamed to Sphinx and not the police department. Well, yes due to not solving but the bombs are gonna create problems. And if you read the words out of their mouth, they said so themselves, it might be a trap and know they might be caught but they'll go in willingly to defuse the bomb. But you saw their items? They had grenades, flares, wire cutter and other items stashed in that box. They're not going in light.

skudoops said:
Secondly, what was stopping them from making a video stating that they bomb was in the haneda airport and someone was mimicking them? That would have messed up five’s entire plan.

cbeard said:

This. Even if they didn't solve the riddle, they could say, "Oh look, a copycat made a lame riddle. We have nothing to do with this. In future you should know to wait for our next exciting video!" Additionally, they could have created another "bomb threat" somewhere else, to add support to the idea that the haneda one was nothing to do with them. Even though nine said the police could still blame them if they denied culpability, I think a good counter video by nine and twelve could convince at least a majority of people that they weren't responsible. The convoluted explanations that some people have come up with to defend the plot holes demonstrate just how bad the holes are.

Until now, this show has been very realistic. Mostly correct bomb chemistry and computer stuff (though the method for successful reverse hacking of nine's PC in a previous episode was questionable.) The building layouts accurately reflected real buildings in Tokyo (was surprised to see places I had been on a holiday). But this whole five thing is unbelievably lame – she comes in on a flimsy pretense of being an FBI agent totally out of jurisdiction with no justification, is extremely rude and condescending to the Japanese authorities who continue to cooperate, and she appears to have a super-human ability to interface with computers. The chess game is the kind of crap I'd expect to see on a lame 90's hacker movie, not this show.

why-so-qwerty said:

But they are already labeled as terrorists by the public and the police. People were already injured in the subway accident. Nobody besides Shibazaki and higher officials knows that they are trying to convey some message.


Ok, we'll see what they're up to in the next ep, but didn't they already figure out that Five and the Japanese police work together? Otherwise, how could she turn off the mobile communication in previous ep? It should be pretty obvious for them that higher government officials that they are trying to denounce by their terrorist actions already know what they are planning to do and want to stop them by any means.

What I'm trying to say is that Five's actions have already compromised Nine and Twelve, and them coming and defusing the bomb won't change their public image anyway. If I got it right, Shibazaki already figured out it's not them who set up the bomb at the airport.

Marthgun said:
that is one annoying bitch. Unfortunately i see where this crapfest is headed. and its straight down the toilet.

Ideally, that bitch would get murdered violently in the next episode while she squeals like a pig. but frenship will save them. She just wanted to be frens and continue their game. forget about her lunatic behavior and the fact she was going to kill hundreds of people,

they either let this horrible walking cliche go, or she lets them go, and that is something i see way too often in animu. No payoff here. 12 eps...the only route that's worse than the current one, is if they drag this crazy lady out until the end of the show. Nothing could be worse than that.

Marthgun said:
I only hope that the focus lingers on Sphinx and not too much on Five.

BRK25 said:
Oh, and here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDhsGPTmJGk&list=UUO8okJvgXmbmyJTkUMWvURg

PV for episode 7.

SHIT LOOKS READY TO GO DOWN!

BRK25 said:


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WmRQfL_Ms-E/UuIbld-mPOI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/ADt4GKJAxYU/s1600/JSBTl.gif

Perfect response.

WorldInverse said:
Damn after I watch eps 7 preview. I am now reminded of how Nine said to Twelve , " You should've sacificed your queen."

I'm getting vibes now.

BRK25 said:


The answers were made in the show and even people one here giving context to why it'd be a bad idea. It's all in context sir. You must rea dbetween the lines and don't expect it hand fed.

Police can blame them by saying they were lying and bringing a false sense of security. Combined with the fact that if they placed another bomb and two bombs go off without the police going to save it, then there's two parts of the cities to be blown up and only one group to blame. Surely no one else has been able to explode a building or area of Japan with precise planning and perfection like these two have.

Also, who's to say what a terrorist say by discussing them as fakes and not the ones placing the bomb will believe? That'll minimize casualties, that's certain. Or five go Psycho and blow up the place for going against protocol the second the video goes viral, she wants them to come to her in fear that a bomb might go off.

And speaking of Five, if she grew up with them and Sphinx have managed to been this good from the start, imagine what Five can do by herself under the same training? What's the big issue here? She's trained in the same manner so I'm not surprised by her antics. She's rude, disrespectful, vanity, cares about beauty. Brainwashed and high sense of worth. Loves to play games.

She's at the same age as Sphinx and proven herself to be ahead of this division. She's a strong officer in the FBI NEST organization. That's nothing to make a joke out of. The police Department failed time and time again at the riddles, thus, no more mistakes are acceptable that they need assistance from outside. She's condescending to the workers believing they can win when they've done blunders after blunders. All we've seen is hacking from Nine and Twelve. Small amount. Had she been there form the beginning, we might have had a different story but I'm sure she's not there to form Dues Ex machinas.

She knows the culprits and after speaking with the superintendent General(Deon't quote me, an assumption) I'm sure she knows she can nab those two and have police guards on duty to stop and capture them on sight.

Because, as we all know, detonating several explosives in the largest metropolis on the planet and threatening the use of plutonium is all just a bunch of pranks and silly games. I remember when my friends and I did that back in highschool - we just gave back the radioactive material we stole from a facility in West Texas to the cops after blowing up the Willis Tower and several oil refineries. Rest assured, we had quite a few laughs after all that went down.

BRK25 said:
TLDR; The game begins. This is Stein;s Gate 2.0 to me and the battle starts.

BRK25 said:


I'm personally worried due to this not an adaption, having to wait one agonizing episode after another.

And Watanabe has a history of some tragic deaths and going the distance where other directors are scared to head. And that means.

Lisa's gonna play a huge role for more than some hostage. Then there's the fact of no happy endings of the two terrorists.

i have suspicions that all three of them are going to die in the end. Then there's the plutonium, that we don't know how or when they'll use it. And they're determined to use it.

I'm really believing that episode 11, they show the aftermaths of using the plutonium rather than use it at the last episode. Watanabe likes tragic stories.

Look at Spike, Faye, Jet.

Then there's Mugen, Jin, Fuu

The characters from Kids on the Slope.

TLDR; The game begins. This is Stein;s Gate 2.0 to me and the battle starts.

Crochax said:


It still doesnt really make sense. Wouldnt the best move for sphinx be solving the riddle on line and claiming that those copycats are no match for them? of course people would believe them, or at least not fucking ignoring a bomb threat by whomever, the public would be in uproar if they heared there are explosives planted on the airport, the police would have no choice but to act and evacuate the airport and search for the bomb, orders from above or not. five is a high ranking whatever in whatever organisation hired her, thats fine and dandy, but if she went and blew up an airport out of some psychotic rage to catch 2 underaged boys, THAT would be considered an act of terror by the japanese gouverment by america. next episode: world war 3.

also, having seen the five character a million times before in media, im guessing she does not have guards to catch nine and twelve if anything goes wrong in her calculations. classic superiority complex.



hahaha, gold!!



lol, certainly not.

Marthgun said:


I hope your right tbh. besides some Deus ex Machina, there are only a few ways out of this. Frenship looks pretty obvious to me. she just wants to play a game, nothing happens < that is the scenario that worries me the most.

BRK25 said:

Maybe it's me but she feels like the biggest star in this show to me, the one with heavy depth of character and will despite her timidness.

WorldInverse said:


It's not just you. I expect much of her in the future too. I have said it earlier but her aura is just like Akane from Psycho Pass.

Still I wonder why they stole Plutonium. So far Nine and Twelve blow things up but never want to injure people. It doesn't make sense if they want to use plutonium to kill people... is it?

nina4life said:
No more Engrish, I am begging you. Anything else. Anything is fine, just stop speaking English.

Baaah, everyone on this show has been interesting up to this point. Five is, in my opinion, as bland as it gets.
They had interesting idea, interesting anti-heroes, a cop with f-ed up history, a girl that just wants everything to end. And then they add a super-awesome girl from their past with no personality simply because they needed worthy adversary.
I am sorry, call me hard to please, but I don't see anything interesting in Five whatsoever.
In the sea of interesting and non-generic characters she's as cliche as they go.

Still a great show :)

migohunter said:


Why can't people just give Five a little more time to develop? She has only appeared for two episodes. Hell, it's been six episodes and Nine, Twelve, Lisa, and Shibazaki haven't been fleshed out yet.

migohunter said:
Why can't people just give Five a little more time to develop? She has only appeared for two episodes. Hell, it's been six episodes and Nine, Twelve, Lisa, and Shibazaki haven't been fleshed out yet.

Wake_Up said:


I agree with what you said. To add to it, this show in my eyes is basically Death Note 2.0. Which is great, I loved it... until

Please, Shibazaki, Nine, Twelve... Lisa, someone, fuck up Five and save this show.

skudoops said:
I didn't understand was what was the point in playing this "game". Why not just go and capture them? Also who the hell would allow the US government to blow up one of their airports? That is dumb on so many levels and not to mention would cause huge international uproar if the information leaked. I'm also surprised that no one even questioned the fact that the message for the bomb was delivered in an utterly non characteristic fashion i.e via text rather than a video with the two of them like it was before.

skudoops said:
Five is a really awful character though