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Like everyone else guessed Raven was Gil, but why is he the only one that looks older? Sharon and Break don't age for something?
I was wondering about that too. Obviously Raven was an older Gil, but I wasn't sure what was up since the rest of Pandora didn't seem to have aged.
Anyway, great episode, I loved the flashbacks with Gil and Oz first meeting. Zwei is delightfully creepy and the possession/manipulation of Gil once again was done very well. As someone mentioned, Raven's crazed expression was quite cool. The way Oz handled it all... just wow. I didn't believe for a second his life was in danger, but that was unexpected and fantastic.
Nice episode. He discover how much time had passed about Gil and all.
Love Alice face while offering meet to Oz.
And it looks like that man who sent him to the Abyss the first time might be his father. At least that's the conclusion am getting from the flash backs and staff.
OH. EMME. GEE Raven is Gil...who could've known!?!11?
/sarcasm
So I really liked this episode. I didn't think it would be 10 years since Oz went into the Abyss. Like 5 at most since Sharon and Break didn't seem to age. I thought that Gil maybe had some sort of uber growth spurt cuz compared to Sharon (who should probably be atleast 24 by now) and Break (age unknown lol) he grew quite tall
or maybe Sharon and Break that don't even age. They don't seem like regular people.....I guess only time will tell
I'm curious as well as to why Gil aged (and changed his name) while Sharon and Break didn't get older. I'm going to guess they were in the Abyss as well for some reason? I'll probably find out soon enough though.
I like the whole master-servant relationship between Oz and Gil. It kind of reminds me of Frodo and Sam in Lord of the Rings (moreso the books than the movies).
I wonder where Oz's sister is then? And the others from his family and mansion.
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OMFG, A CLIFFHANGER, SHIITTTT, AND IT WAS GETTING HOT MAN, DAAAAMMM.
Okay, so Raven is actually Gil ten years after Oz returned to the Abyss. I'm a little confused though. Why didn't that girl Sharon and that homo guy grow old? Must be some kind of magic? So, only Gil grew old?
NEED NEXT EPISODE NAAAO. NEED SOME EXPLANATIONSSS.
One one hand I like to move on a bit faster, but on the other I love all the details, the backflashes, small dialogues that add depth to the story...
I really enjoy this show.
...though the video quality and poor sound make it a pain to watch on native 1080p...
I can't say that I'm surprised about thee whole Gil and Raven thing because I was kind of expecting that from the first time it showed him. Also, although it wouldn't make any sense right now, I'm guessing that there is some kind of relation between Oz and Break; they have similar personalities and Oz talks to him the most when he is around. The girl from the beginning is probably the girl in Pandora as well.
So, it's not like I didn't already know that Raven was Gilbert. But anyway, for Oz that was quite a revelation. But I still don't know how is it possible for 10 years to have passed while Sharon still looks the same... I hope Oz will notice that too. It would be kinda dumb if he didn't.
Great episode. Loved the flashbacks. The cliffhanger was nice, of course Oz won't die but there was a shot anyway and I really wanna know how that thing ends. That Doldum chain seems quite fearful. Also, that woman is its contractor right? And she has been for at least 10 years. What means that Oz can still have a lot of time. Or maybe it doesn't work the same way for everyone... Whatever, I'll just stop my useless reflections and keep watching.
well becuz of u guys, i was already spoiled about him being gil, even if he was very similer, i didnt want to believe it until they actually said it, and now they did.
and that brings up a question, why arent break and shanon affected by this ten year pass, they should be different, but there not.
"get along" my ass! Of course they don't have memories of their childhood but it's just so funny to see the two of them arguing.
I already knew that Raven is Gil all along.
Haha awesome didn't expected it was 10 years but I did know that raven was Gill in a way! Though I do wonder why the other 2 characters didn't age oO? Or did they?
Great episode though and what a cliffhanger ending ;D
I couldn't believe that he is Gil for the simple reason of age. The other girl didn't look any older than before so it was hard to believe.
10 years o.O.
Anyways I loved what Oz decided to do at the end, even if it was the way of a weak man.
Wooooo this was my favorite episode so far. It was great with the flashbacks and all- anyway I was already predicting that he would see the scar. I love Gil and Oz's relationship, they are my favorite characters until now -along with Break he is truly interesting.
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