No Game No Life Episode 3 Discussion

Kaioshin_Sama said:


I wouldn't say flat out terrible. It's absolutely not about clever games, this episode established that quite clearly so I don't even think there's much point in addressing that. I got some chuckles here and there amidst a lot of groaners and just comedic attempts that seemed aimed at an audience with totally different sensibilities, but whatever it is that seems to have people dropping to their knees in near revelatory fervor I'm not seeing it. There's just so little hear comedy wise that I haven't seen done in practically every wacky otaku comedy show in recent memory. You've got the Jojo references, the Phoenix Wright references, the references to Akiba and Moe culture, the wacky poses, the screaming loudly and passionately about stupid shit. It's just pretty straight average otaku reference/wank comedy stuff so far with a really loose premise that is merely a means to achieving that end. It might as well be called No Game Same Jokes for all the good it does with the game aspect of things.

elfos said:
Funny to see the reactions when you say something bad about the show. Let's be clear here:
- if you take the show as a mindgame show, then it's bad
- if you take the show as a comedy, it's extremely cliché and not funny. I haven't seen that many comedy shows, but all of them were way better than this. So it's not use giving the "it's supposed to be a comedy" argument. Even as one, this episode was still terrible.

gamer5 said:
Hell they are definitely better than Saki in which every freaking character has some unexplained special power except for the MC herself.

Progeusz said:
The problem is that you're trying to take the show as something. STOP THAT. It's utterly retarded.
Just watch and decide if you like it. Stop setting up idiotic expectations when you don't even know much about show.
If you can't comprehend the concept of "FUN" and feel irresistible need to classify everything, find a different hobby.

When something is created, the author simply wants it to be good. Not "good comedy", "good romance" or whatever. He wants it to be "good". With use of various elements. He can put more focus on humor but that doesn't mean the show is suddenly "comedy" and nothing else.

I hate people like you so much.

Progeusz said:
In case you didn't get it, everything was intentional. It's your fault for expecting the show to be something it isn't.

But well, looking at your scores or Korean Zombe Desk Car, HotD, Daimaou, it seems you simply don't get these shows. Don't worry, chances of you eventually learning how to enjoy anime are still pretty decent.

gamer5 said:


As for all those which fail to think about anything and can't see the hidden logic behind the chess-themed game in this episode I point to my earlier post on page 12 and the LIGHT NOVEL.

Also the games again are probably extremely well though of while being entertaining at the same time. Hell they are definitely better than Saki in which every freaking character has some unexplained special power except for the MC herself. In this we have cheating to win, using mind games to win and owning with pure skill against magic -if that is not epic then please just leave us which see and understand the logic and epicness of NGNL alone AKA please take yours posts somewhere else on MAL and let us fans enjoy this in peace.

elfos said:
Funny to see the reactions when you say something bad about the show. Let's be clear here:
- if you take the show as a mindgame show, then it's bad
- if you take the show as a comedy, it's extremely cliché and not funny. I haven't seen that many comedy shows, but all of them were way better than this. So it's not use giving the "it's supposed to be a comedy" argument. Even as one, this episode was still terrible.

galimx said:
Power of cuteness and moe in battlefield?? Yeah right, so stupid.

Ragna92 said:
Phoenix Wright!

Takuan_Soho said:


And fighting for nation or some stupid noble/emperor is somehow smart?

I am not going to say that the motivation was inspiring, but I can think of about 1,000 reasons people have fought that are more pathetic than fighting for Cuteness and Moe (religion, ideology, ethnicity, because they butter their bread on the top instead of the bottom).

As the proud rallying cry of the US Navy went "Millions for aesthetics, but not one cent for ugliness!"

Sh4de said:
Hmm, not bad.

Can't say I agree how the episode turned out though. Entertaining as it may have been, it wasn't much of a 'game' anymore. The one screaming the loudest motivations wins a game of chess ? Just throw all tactics overboard :/

gamer5 said:


I point you to my post on page 12 of this thread. I explained all the logic behind each of the things he did in the chess-themed game which is not CHESS - the magic which gave the chess figures a WILL turned it into something else.

It is not important how loud he is but what is he talking about (trough being loud helps get the message trough).

Again the LIGHT NOVEL does much better in making clear how the game is going on and what tactics are being used than the anime - probably due the fact that there is much more details about the game itself in the LN.

If you don't have the brains to understand this then just sit in for the humor and anything but usual games. (I can't believe so much people doesn't get the chess-themed game, I am repeating this for who know which time)

Caleb8980 said:

Lastly please don't insult him like this; you can't understand everything from the get-go, that is one of the reasons a forum like this exists; for people to exchange their opinions and to learn things by looking at other peoples viewpoints.

With your insults...

gamer5 said:
If you don't have the brains to understand this then just sit in for the humor and anything but usual games.

Caleb8980 said:
Also the LN of a show holds next to no weight in an argument about the animation. It may have explained things better but that doesn't change the way people look at those things from a pure anime viewpoint.

Caleb8980 said:
... you sound like a child throwing a tantrum and aren't convincing in any way...

Kaioshin_Sama said:


I didn't misunderstand anything, I just don't see why I should be riveted or find it awesome. I totally get it, the test was how well you could command your subject and this is used as a means to an end in getting Sora to do some loud shouting and ranting about moe otaku culture and champion his experience in Erogenous dating Sims for some cheap laughs. If that's something people find epic then fine, but please don't go all Shaft fan response and try to tell me I don't get it. Its entirely possible to get that everything in this show ultimately comes back to the otaku reference comedy stuff and still be underwhelmed. Not a single gag or joke in this episode is anything I haven't seen done dozens of times before in an LN adaptation is kind of what brings it down.

Cheesekao said:

Funny how that's also the very reason they collapsed in the end.

mbdsquad said:
^No one cares. We enjoyed the show. You didn't. Your loss. Not ours.

Nidhoeggr said:
I enjoy this show as well on a meta level. It is hilarious to see how easy it is too hype people.



Please read a fucking history book, thanks.

Nidhoeggr said:
You miss the point. The workings behind the fall of an empire are NOT related at all to passion alone like you made it sound in your initial post.

Nidhoeggr said:
Of course not, which is why I recommended said book. It's just said I found Cheesekao's way of answering to Solvite very silly. Anyway, enough offtopic.

Nidhoeggr said:
The workings behind the fall of an empire are NOT related at all to passion alone like you made it sound in your initial post.

jnw93 said:
]Genres: Adventure, Comedy, Ecchi, Fantasy, Supernatural - sorry but you wont find an intelligent series here

doraemon1992 said:
Since when intelligent is a genre? So if I want something logical in my anime then I should look for "Intelligent" in the genre?

HaXXspetten said:
also since when does a series have to be intelligent to be good?

Nidhoeggr said:
Exactly. I don't even feel the need to add much on my own because this is just your standard otaku-wank, horrible pulp that is only high-rated because it is even more obvious in its blatant glorification than the usual stuff we get.

Nidhoeggr said:
I enjoy this show as well on a meta level. It is hilarious to see how easy it is too hype people.

gamer5 said:
Hey I was not that harsh - if I really wanted to insult him I would have done it.

I am just angry at him and all those which can't stop and think about how Sora uses his words to manipulate his troops, his enemies' troops and even his enemy.
Instead of thinking about those they just say something in the "There is no more logic in the games in NGNL", "This is absurd (because I don't get it)" manner and then make us which understand how and why does everything happen in the way it does angry.



The LN holds every imaginable weight in the animation because the whole thing will at least for the first (and hopefully second) season be based on the LN. Plus the author himself is working on the NGNL anime - making sure that it is adopted as true as possible to the LN. So the LN definitely hold a incredible amount of weight in the animation - hell it would be saying like the Black Lagoon manga holds no weight in the Black Lagoon animation.


Gamer5 No Game No Life fan 4 life.

Caleb8980 said:


if an anime was horrible in your eyes do you think you would go bother reading its source, even if it is much much better than the anime in reality?

gamer5 said:


As for this - if you believe this they you don't understand NGNL at all.
This is NOT a standard Otaku-wank as you call it.
NGNL instead of having the reference put inside of the show for no reason at all the times has almost always the main characters using references while being completely well aware they come from. I only know about one show which does this - Lucky Star - where we have Hinata which is, as are Sora and Shiro, an Otaku.
This is NOT pulp or horrible at all - actually it is epic.
Tell me that a show which has some deciding about the fates of countries, even races, with games and in which the main characters use purely their skills to beat enemies which can use magic to cheat a pulp show - to my face and I would punch you.
I will not list all the thing that make this show epic it would take to long - but just Sora & Shiro and their unique relationship makes it much better then horrible.
It is hype because it is actually good - not because people are easy to hype.