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Feb 8, 2014 11:58 AM
#851
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Feb 8, 2014 12:10 PM
#852
They'd still be guarding them, it's their duty, you're forgetting these are all soldiers, not just some people protecting her because they love her. Antyhing happens to her, everyone's affected. So regardless of who the Jinchuriki is, they have no choice but do the same. |
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Feb 8, 2014 12:18 PM
#853
judals said: You forget about what happen to Utakata. He is hunted down by his own village and hardly anyone care to tell him about Akatsuki threat.They'd still be guarding them, it's their duty, you're forgetting these are all soldiers, not just some people protecting her because they love her. Antyhing happens to her, everyone's affected. So regardless of who the Jinchuriki is, they have no choice but do the same. |
Feb 8, 2014 12:22 PM
#854
That's a different village, and a different Bijuu and a different matter. A city like Konoha would not risk letting Kyuubi out for people to control or for it to be set free, they did not forget him the last time. They have a good system and can contain it, so that's what they do, if you really think they would just ignore the Jinchuuriki while he's still in the city, you'd be wrong. In any case, they did not mainly protect Kushina 'out of love', but out of necessity, not that they don't love her or anything. Some other villages might choose exile, the short-term option which is dumb because... you know people are after it. |
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Feb 8, 2014 12:25 PM
#855
Feb 8, 2014 3:55 PM
#856
NAruto is much more dangerous as a host simply because he CANT control it once he loses control. Kushina doesnt have that problem. The contradiction/problem isnt that the host is female but that they allowed her to get pregnant.Still if they DIDNt allowed her to get pregnant it would contradict their personalities.Unless if you can prove that Sarutobi and Minato are like Danzo. Minato and the rest thought they could protect her for that one moment she is "weakened".They couldnt and that's a fact. But that is an entirely different story.In no way proves that choosing Kushina was a bad choice or that Naruto or some fodder shinobi is in any way better as a host. |
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Feb 9, 2014 1:04 AM
#857
*HUGE SPOILERS* read at your own risk °.° ^JK.... but every Anime, OVA, Movie, TV series N manga have imo one or two plotholes (cos nobody's perfect) ,but I don't mind it, actually my favorite Anime happens too be FLCL.... I dear yhu NOT to find a plothole in every single one on fooly coolyz episodes Q_Q |
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Feb 9, 2014 2:24 PM
#858
Steins;Gate I've not seen it in a while but IIRC Feyris refused to send a d-mail infront of the others because of some stupid reason about secrets. Like she could of caused the freaking world to assplode but it's all dandy because she needed to do it in 'secret'. |
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Feb 9, 2014 2:48 PM
#859
Glass Fleet. I hate it how the bad guy somehow becomes good and all the people whom he has been oppressing/fighting just suddenly accept and follow him. I also hate it how when the protagonists are in the prison scenario all the filthy lifers try to rape one of the characters, and then later after the jailbreak they are all buddy buddy. Actually I pretty much hate Glass Fleet entirely. |
Feb 9, 2014 6:11 PM
#860
Shikabane Hime if a person dies with regrets they become a shikabane >_> so why are there not thousands of shikiabane all over the world from wars, disasters, etc. |
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Feb 9, 2014 9:55 PM
#861
Vexper said: Yeah that the only BS moment due to their personalities./sarcSteins;Gate I've not seen it in a while but IIRC Feyris refused to send a d-mail infront of the others because of some stupid reason about secrets. Like she could of caused the freaking world to assplode but it's all dandy because she needed to do it in 'secret'. They should have never started this d mail shit.What happened in ep12 would still happen but Okabe wouldnt have to go trough all of that. Thats why the prologue of the VN starts with Okabe's monologue about the butterfly effect and how stupid he was. |
Feb 9, 2014 10:23 PM
#862
Feb 9, 2014 11:03 PM
#863
Vexper said: Steins;Gate I've not seen it in a while but IIRC Feyris refused to send a d-mail infront of the others because of some stupid reason about secrets. Like she could of caused the freaking world to assplode but it's all dandy because she needed to do it in 'secret'. I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole. I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way. |
Feb 10, 2014 3:25 AM
#864
Fexell said: This isnt a plothole.Vexper said: Steins;Gate I've not seen it in a while but IIRC Feyris refused to send a d-mail infront of the others because of some stupid reason about secrets. Like she could of caused the freaking world to assplode but it's all dandy because she needed to do it in 'secret'. I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole. I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way. If we see things this way then Naruto is impossible,Bleach Is impossible,OP,DBZ,NGE, JoJo and most other anime out there are plotholes as well. |
Feb 10, 2014 3:28 AM
#865
Fexell said: People like you completely miss the point of anime. "WHY IS LUFFY MADE OF RUBBER? THAT IS A PLOTHOLE I AM SO SMART FOR SPOTTING THAT ONE!". And their time travel was NOT a plothole, they could only travel 24 hours to the past anyway (d-mails could go years back, but my point stands, there is no plothole at this)Vexper said: Steins;Gate I've not seen it in a while but IIRC Feyris refused to send a d-mail infront of the others because of some stupid reason about secrets. Like she could of caused the freaking world to assplode but it's all dandy because she needed to do it in 'secret'. I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole. I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way. And yes, he got it out of luck, so what? How can that be a plothole? Seems like coincidence to me |
Feb 10, 2014 9:24 AM
#866
Fexell said: I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole. I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way. Time travel is possible if there is a particle faster than the speed of light exists. So yeah, it's not possible (yet) in real life. But doesn't mean it's a plothole. Something is considered as plothole if it doesn't match with the logic in the story itself, not with our real life logic. And this is sci-fi. |
Feb 10, 2014 9:27 AM
#867
Fexell said: Vexper said: Steins;Gate I've not seen it in a while but IIRC Feyris refused to send a d-mail infront of the others because of some stupid reason about secrets. Like she could of caused the freaking world to assplode but it's all dandy because she needed to do it in 'secret'. I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole. I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way. Fun fact: Newton discovered gravity out of pure luck (and curiosity). You don't necessarily need "skill" to invent/discover anything. |
Feb 10, 2014 9:28 AM
#868
Forgetfulness said: Every picture we take, is one of the past.wanderingplayboy said: Well technically, everybody's a time traveler. We're all traveling forward in time c:Fexell said: I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole. I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way. Time travel is possible if there is a particle faster than the speed of light exists. So yeah, it's not possible (yet) in real life. But doesn't mean it's a plothole. Something is considered as plothole if it doesn't match with the logic in the story itself, not with our real life logic. And this is sci-fi. |
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Feb 10, 2014 11:11 AM
#869
lupadim said: Fexell said: People like you completely miss the point of anime. "WHY IS LUFFY MADE OF RUBBER? THAT IS A PLOTHOLE I AM SO SMART FOR SPOTTING THAT ONE!". And their time travel was NOT a plothole, they could only travel 24 hours to the past anyway (d-mails could go years back, but my point stands, there is no plothole at this)Vexper said: Steins;Gate I've not seen it in a while but IIRC Feyris refused to send a d-mail infront of the others because of some stupid reason about secrets. Like she could of caused the freaking world to assplode but it's all dandy because she needed to do it in 'secret'. I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole. I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way. And yes, he got it out of luck, so what? How can that be a plothole? Seems like coincidence to me "People like you". I'm not saying that the anime is bad. I'm just saying that time travel itself is impossible. The difference between One Piece and Steins;Gate, is that Steins;Gate unfolds in a "realistic" world. The setting is "our world" and not a fantasy world. "24 hours to the past"? Then what about that bigger machine they had? (The one looking like a "space ship" or something weird). |
Feb 10, 2014 11:13 AM
#870
Fexell said: It's still an anime world, a sci fi world. And like it's been explained to you already, a plot hole is going against the show's logic, not ours. Their world can look just like ours but everyone has purple skin, that would not be a plot hole. It having time travel is not a plot hole but going against the rules about time travel that they established in the story would be a plot hole."People like you". I'm not saying that the anime is bad. I'm just saying that time travel itself is impossible. The difference between One Piece and Steins;Gate, is that Steins;Gate unfolds in a "realistic" world. The setting is "our world" and not a fantasy world. "24 hours to the past"? Then what about that bigger machine they had? (The one looking like a "space ship" or something weird). |
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Feb 10, 2014 11:18 AM
#871
wanderingplayboy said: Fexell said: I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole. I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way. Time travel is possible if there is a particle faster than the speed of light exists. So yeah, it's not possible (yet) in real life. But doesn't mean it's a plothole. Something is considered as plothole if it doesn't match with the logic in the story itself, not with our real life logic. And this is sci-fi. I will answer you by your profile. I don't wanna go off-topic. |
Feb 10, 2014 11:19 AM
#872
Fexell said: lupadim said: Fexell said: People like you completely miss the point of anime. "WHY IS LUFFY MADE OF RUBBER? THAT IS A PLOTHOLE I AM SO SMART FOR SPOTTING THAT ONE!". And their time travel was NOT a plothole, they could only travel 24 hours to the past anyway (d-mails could go years back, but my point stands, there is no plothole at this)Vexper said: Steins;Gate I've not seen it in a while but IIRC Feyris refused to send a d-mail infront of the others because of some stupid reason about secrets. Like she could of caused the freaking world to assplode but it's all dandy because she needed to do it in 'secret'. I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole. I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way. And yes, he got it out of luck, so what? How can that be a plothole? Seems like coincidence to me "People like you". I'm not saying that the anime is bad. I'm just saying that time travel itself is impossible. The difference between One Piece and Steins;Gate, is that Steins;Gate unfolds in a "realistic" world. The setting is "our world" and not a fantasy world. "24 hours to the past"? Then what about that bigger machine they had? (The one looking like a "space ship" or something weird). S;G unfolds in a world where physical time travel is possible.So not our world. Again you ignore the setting of the show. |
Feb 10, 2014 11:20 AM
#873
@Fexell What ssjokg and IntroverTurtle said is completely correct. Its not set in a 'realistic' world. Its set in its own world, where time travel IS possible. This is not a plot hole in ANY way. |
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Feb 10, 2014 11:21 AM
#874
IntroverTurtle said: Fexell said: It's still an anime world, a sci fi world. And like it's been explained to you already, a plot hole is going against the show's logic, not ours. Their world can look just like ours but everyone has purple skin, that would not be a plot hole. It having time travel is not a plot hole but going against the rules about time travel that they established in the story would be a plot hole."People like you". I'm not saying that the anime is bad. I'm just saying that time travel itself is impossible. The difference between One Piece and Steins;Gate, is that Steins;Gate unfolds in a "realistic" world. The setting is "our world" and not a fantasy world. "24 hours to the past"? Then what about that bigger machine they had? (The one looking like a "space ship" or something weird). I agree. But the way they time travel is kind of a plothole. If it had more facts, etc. I would have bought it. But as I also said; I still enjoyed the anime. I don't really mind plotholes, to be honest. Because as you say: anime itself is fantasy. Edit; I won't go off-topic here anymore. I'll answer quotes as comment on your profiles. |
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Feb 10, 2014 11:24 AM
#875
Fexell said: IntroverTurtle said: Fexell said: It's still an anime world, a sci fi world. And like it's been explained to you already, a plot hole is going against the show's logic, not ours. Their world can look just like ours but everyone has purple skin, that would not be a plot hole. It having time travel is not a plot hole but going against the rules about time travel that they established in the story would be a plot hole."People like you". I'm not saying that the anime is bad. I'm just saying that time travel itself is impossible. The difference between One Piece and Steins;Gate, is that Steins;Gate unfolds in a "realistic" world. The setting is "our world" and not a fantasy world. "24 hours to the past"? Then what about that bigger machine they had? (The one looking like a "space ship" or something weird). I agree. But the way they time travel is kind of a plothole. If it had more facts, etc. I would have bought it. But as I also said; I still enjoyed the anime. I don't really mind plotholes, to be honest. Because as you say: anime itself is fantasy. No it isnt. Since there is no certain method(facts) which makes time travel possible, they can do whatever they want, even use the supernatural and it still wont be a plothole. |
Feb 10, 2014 11:25 AM
#876
miereneronaile said: @Fexell What ssjokg and IntroverTurtle said is completely correct. Its not set in a 'realistic' world. Its set in its own world, where time travel IS possible. This is not a plot hole in ANY way. Even worlds established to be bizarre where a lot of crazy stuff can happen can't just come up with stuff and use "it's fiction" as an excuse. It's cheap. Whatever happens, needs to be explained or make sense and not just be there for the sake of being there. May not be a plot hole by definition, but it isn't good writing. That said, you're right, S;G established itself in a TT setting, so it's no plothole by any means. |
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Feb 10, 2014 11:27 AM
#877
judals said: miereneronaile said: @Fexell What ssjokg and IntroverTurtle said is completely correct. Its not set in a 'realistic' world. Its set in its own world, where time travel IS possible. This is not a plot hole in ANY way. Even worlds established to be bizarre where a lot of crazy stuff can happen can't just come up with stuff and use "it's fiction" as an excuse. It's cheap. Whatever happens, needs to be explained or make sense and not just be there for the sake of being there. May not be a plot hole by definition, but it isn't good writing. They were "explained".Now if you want to accept them or not it is your problem not of the series. |
Feb 10, 2014 11:27 AM
#878
judals said: miereneronaile said: @Fexell What ssjokg and IntroverTurtle said is completely correct. Its not set in a 'realistic' world. Its set in its own world, where time travel IS possible. This is not a plot hole in ANY way. Even worlds established to be bizarre where a lot of crazy stuff can happen can't just come up with stuff and use "it's fiction" as an excuse. It's cheap. Whatever happens, needs to be explained or make sense and not just be there for the sake of being there. May not be a plot hole by definition, but it isn't good writing. The important thing is that they stay consistent and that they establish some rules. Just saying 'Time travel is possible in this world' is quite sufficient for the initial basis. Explaining it further makes it better, and establishing rules for such things is also important, but 'just making stuff up' is absolutely fine initially.. because it IS fiction. |
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Feb 10, 2014 11:36 AM
#879
miereneronaile said: judals said: miereneronaile said: @Fexell What ssjokg and IntroverTurtle said is completely correct. Its not set in a 'realistic' world. Its set in its own world, where time travel IS possible. This is not a plot hole in ANY way. Even worlds established to be bizarre where a lot of crazy stuff can happen can't just come up with stuff and use "it's fiction" as an excuse. It's cheap. Whatever happens, needs to be explained or make sense and not just be there for the sake of being there. May not be a plot hole by definition, but it isn't good writing. The important thing is that they stay consistent and that they establish some rules. Just saying 'Time travel is possible in this world' is quite sufficient for the initial basis. Explaining it further makes it better, and establishing rules for such things is also important, but 'just making stuff up' is absolutely fine initially.. because it IS fiction. Exactly, initially, it's called set up, and is completely fine, they can also add elements later on as long as they incorporate it well into the story and it doesn't break the anime's rules. |
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Feb 10, 2014 11:38 AM
#880
judals said: miereneronaile said: judals said: miereneronaile said: @Fexell What ssjokg and IntroverTurtle said is completely correct. Its not set in a 'realistic' world. Its set in its own world, where time travel IS possible. This is not a plot hole in ANY way. Even worlds established to be bizarre where a lot of crazy stuff can happen can't just come up with stuff and use "it's fiction" as an excuse. It's cheap. Whatever happens, needs to be explained or make sense and not just be there for the sake of being there. May not be a plot hole by definition, but it isn't good writing. The important thing is that they stay consistent and that they establish some rules. Just saying 'Time travel is possible in this world' is quite sufficient for the initial basis. Explaining it further makes it better, and establishing rules for such things is also important, but 'just making stuff up' is absolutely fine initially.. because it IS fiction. Exactly, initially, it's called set up, and is completely fine, they can also add elements later on as long as they incorporate it well into the story and it doesn't break the anime's rules. Yep, and Steins;Gate did a pretty reasonable job of this. Calling the fact you can time travel in Steins;Gate a plot hole is totally ridiculous, which was what initially started this lol. |
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Feb 10, 2014 12:34 PM
#881
Pokemon, WHY DON'T YOU AGE? |
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Feb 10, 2014 12:36 PM
#882
The thing when that part happened in that one anime with the people in it was really stupid. |
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Feb 10, 2014 2:29 PM
#883
KingKongShrest said: BEcause it is all dream a comatose Ash is having.Pokemon, WHY DON'T YOU AGE? |
Feb 10, 2014 2:37 PM
#884
It's not a plot hole, but this would unravel the entire world of Kuroko no Basket - Akashi vs Aomine. |
Feb 10, 2014 5:52 PM
#885
fist of the north star during kenshiro vs souther,kenshiro's hokuto shinken did'nt work cuz souther's pressure points were reversed,but if they're reversed they're still there just in the opposite direction,yet what the show is implying is that during all the atatatas and the barrage of punches kenshiro did'nt once happen to come in contact with one of those reversed pressure points......i mean that's just BULLSHIT |
Feb 10, 2014 7:36 PM
#886
0Gintoki_san0 said: naruto's kyubii was instantly taken and eaten by the gedo mazo. Kushina having her weak seal seems irrelevant because I remember orochimaru destroying naruto's seal in a matter of a single jutsulionheart04 said: in naruto when they extracted the bijuu out of gaara it took many chapters before they have finished then in naruto and kushina cases it was extracted instantly. Kushina's seal was already weakened and Tobi only extracted Kyuubi and released it outside while Garra's tailed beast was extracted and transferred to the Gedo Mazo at the same time. |
Feb 10, 2014 8:16 PM
#887
lionheart04 said: 0Gintoki_san0 said: naruto's kyubii was instantly taken and eaten by the gedo mazo. Kushina having her weak seal seems irrelevant because I remember orochimaru destroying naruto's seal in a matter of a single jutsulionheart04 said: in naruto when they extracted the bijuu out of gaara it took many chapters before they have finished then in naruto and kushina cases it was extracted instantly. Kushina's seal was already weakened and Tobi only extracted Kyuubi and released it outside while Garra's tailed beast was extracted and transferred to the Gedo Mazo at the same time. Oro never destroyed Naruto's seal. Oro just put a limiter over it making it difficult for Naruto to control his chakra. |
Feb 12, 2014 3:15 AM
#888
Dark_Wolverine said: vongola-undecimo said: fist of the north star during kenshiro vs souther,kenshiro's hokuto shinken did'nt work cuz souther's pressure points were reversed,but if they're reversed they're still there just in the opposite direction,yet what the show is implying is that during all the atatatas and the barrage of punches kenshiro did'nt once happen to come in contact with one of those reversed pressure points......i mean that's just BULLSHIT wow....never even came to mind but looking back that really is bullshit well the show never did know where it was going anyway |
Feb 13, 2014 1:15 AM
#889
there was one in jojo's bizarre adventure during kujo vs dio.....that was probably the lamest asspull i've ever seen |
Feb 27, 2014 12:10 PM
#890
HxH manga spoilers Gon's massive power up asspull that made him kill Pitou. It felt like Togashi didn't know what to do with Gon and Pitou and didn't find a realistic way for Gon to leave alive so he resorted to this Deus ex. I didn't like it at all. And Gon physical apparence from it looked stupid and weird as fuck. Gon is...I don't even know how to describe him at this point, his character is all over the place. There is also Netero having a chemical bomb inside of him which had zero foreshadowing but it's not as big of an asspull as Gon's. What a disappointing arc.. |
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Feb 27, 2014 12:30 PM
#891
tsudecimo said: HxH manga spoilers Gon's massive power up asspull that made him kill Pitou. It felt like Togashi didn't know what to do with Gon and Pitou and didn't find a realistic way for Gon to leave alive so he resorted to this Deus ex. I didn't like it at all. And Gon physical apparence from it looked stupid and weird as fuck. Gon is...I don't even know how to describe him at this point, his character is all over the place. There is also Netero having a chemical bomb inside of him which had zero foreshadowing but it's not as big of an asspull as Gon's. What a disappointing arc.. -true enough,but nowhere near a dissapointing arc |
Feb 27, 2014 12:32 PM
#892
Guilty Crown. All of it. Literally all of it. |
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Feb 27, 2014 12:33 PM
#893
saint seiya-i'm about 60 episodes in and the series has enough plot holes bs moments and plot conveniences to fill naruto&bleach and still have a lot left over |
Feb 27, 2014 12:34 PM
#894
vongola-undecimo said: tsudecimo said: HxH manga spoilers Gon's massive power up asspull that made him kill Pitou. It felt like Togashi didn't know what to do with Gon and Pitou and didn't find a realistic way for Gon to leave alive so he resorted to this Deus ex. I didn't like it at all. And Gon physical apparence from it looked stupid and weird as fuck. Gon is...I don't even know how to describe him at this point, his character is all over the place. There is also Netero having a chemical bomb inside of him which had zero foreshadowing but it's not as big of an asspull as Gon's. What a disappointing arc.. -true enough,but nowhere near a dissapointing arc That arc wasn't only disappointing because of those two things. I have many many other problems with it. |
Feb 27, 2014 12:39 PM
#895
tsudecimo said: vongola-undecimo said: tsudecimo said: HxH manga spoilers Gon's massive power up asspull that made him kill Pitou. It felt like Togashi didn't know what to do with Gon and Pitou and didn't find a realistic way for Gon to leave alive so he resorted to this Deus ex. I didn't like it at all. And Gon physical apparence from it looked stupid and weird as fuck. Gon is...I don't even know how to describe him at this point, his character is all over the place. There is also Netero having a chemical bomb inside of him which had zero foreshadowing but it's not as big of an asspull as Gon's. What a disappointing arc.. -true enough,but nowhere near a dissapointing arc That arc wasn't only disappointing because of those two things. I have many many other problems with it. well if that's how you feel.....i personally enjoyed it over alot of other stuff |
Feb 27, 2014 1:11 PM
#896
tsudecimo said: HxH manga spoilers Gon's massive power up asspull that made him kill Pitou. It felt like Togashi didn't know what to do with Gon and Pitou and didn't find a realistic way for Gon to leave alive so he resorted to this Deus ex. I didn't like it at all. And Gon physical apparence from it looked stupid and weird as fuck. Gon is...I don't even know how to describe him at this point, his character is all over the place. There is also Netero having a chemical bomb inside of him which had zero foreshadowing but it's not as big of an asspull as Gon's. What a disappointing arc.. It's not like Gon got off scot-free, he's literally on his deathbed in the next arc |
Feb 27, 2014 1:16 PM
#897
There are plenty of "bullshit" moments in Toriko, partly because of how over-the-top it is. Still, all these bullshit moments are made pretty damn hilarious by the fact that Toriko takes itself very seriously. For example, there's this one moment while inside the Reagal Mammoth during which Rin recalls how she got the scar under her right eye..... Apparently, she cuts herself to try and imitate Toriko, but because she was looking at a mirror, she accidentally cut her right side instead of her left side (anime changed it to her getting wounded). The reason why this is a "bullshit" moment is that when you're looking into a mirror, your left side will appear on the left side. Of course, this is nothing big, but given the situation in which it was revealed, it came off as fucking hilarious. Also, KnB 2: At the start of the season, in the third episode, Kuroko reveals his new move (albeit, an incomplete version), Vanishing Drive, to Momoi. Cue, a dozen episodes later, first round of the Winter Cup, it's Touou vs Seirin. During the first quarter break, it's revealed that Kuroko is actually using his misdirection to shift his opponent's attention towards Kagami, who has to be in line of sight with Kuroko's opponent in order for the Vanishing Drive to be successful....... Kagami was never present when Kuroko reveals his Vanishing Drive to Momoi. Furthermore, Kuroko uses it on Kagami himself, in a situation where there was no one around for Kuroko to misdirect Kagami's attention to. There are theories that fans have created to argue against this; 1) Momoi is not very good at Basketball, so Kuroko could've used it easily against her. 2) Kagami was not ready for it defensively, that's why it worked against him. There's just one thing; to have someone to shift the opponent's attention onto is a minimum necessity in order to use Vanishing Drive, so I really don't see why Momoi's and Kagami's un-readiness really matters. The fact remains that Kuroko could not have misdirected Kagami's or Momoi's attention onto someone else, which destroys the entire basis of his technique. |
Feb 27, 2014 1:19 PM
#898
tsudecimo said: HxH manga spoilers Gon's massive power up asspull that made him kill Pitou. It felt like Togashi didn't know what to do with Gon and Pitou and didn't find a realistic way for Gon to leave alive so he resorted to this Deus ex. I didn't like it at all. And Gon physical apparence from it looked stupid and weird as fuck. Gon is...I don't even know how to describe him at this point, his character is all over the place. There is also Netero having a chemical bomb inside of him which had zero foreshadowing but it's not as big of an asspull as Gon's. What a disappointing arc.. HxH manga spoilers below While I personally liked the CA arc, that finale is pretty damn controversial to say the least. With Netero vs the King, it was more to symbolize the fact that Netero is far past his prime and to beat the King, he has to take him down with himself due to the King being much stronger due to his youth as well as being an incredibly powerful creature. I personally don't find the Rose bomb to be an asspull, though the introduction did come a bit late but still, nothing major. As for Gon's transformation... that'll definitely cause a huge divide among fans. Some say that he put a HUGE restriction on his nen ability while battling Pitou, sacrificing his inborn talent to kill one person. Kinda like Kurapika except it's more concentrated. It along with Gon's enhancement ability + anger makes for this kind of transformation. Dat hair though... But that wasn't explicitly stated so you can either look at it from my perspective or yours. Neither is incorrect. But speaking of Deus Ex... Alluka related spoilers (don't read till you catch up to the manga) Speaking of Deus Ex, the one thing that you can definitely consider Deus Ex is Alluka's nen ability. Not because of the ability itself but because of how Killua can bypass the price for some odd reason, which led to Gon being healed after looking brutally disfigured from his fight with Pitou. That is what I would call Deus Ex. |
Feb 27, 2014 1:19 PM
#899
yhunata said: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=729541#msg27793507Also, KnB 2: At the start of the season, in the third episode, Kuroko reveals his new move (albeit, an incomplete version), Vanishing Drive, to Momoi. Cue, a dozen episodes later, first round of the Winter Cup, it's Touou vs Seirin. During the first quarter break, it's revealed that Kuroko is actually using his misdirection to shift his opponent's attention towards Kagami, who has to be in line of sight with Kuroko's opponent in order for the Vanishing Drive to be successful....... Kagami was never present when Kuroko reveals his Vanishing Drive to Momoi. Furthermore, Kuroko uses it on Kagami himself, in a situation where there was no one around for Kuroko to misdirect Kagami's attention to. There are theories that fans have created to argue against this; 1) Momoi is not very good at Basketball, so Kuroko could've used it easily against her. 2) Kagami was not ready for it defensively, that's why it worked against him. There's just one thing; to have someone to shift the opponent's attention onto is a minimum necessity in order to use Vanishing Drive, so I really don't see why Momoi's and Kagami's un-readiness really matters. The fact remains that Kuroko could not have misdirected Kagami's or Momoi's attention onto someone else, which destroys the entire basis of his technique. |
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