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MCAL said: Yeah, but the the opening shows it was just a dream Hazama was having. That isn't foreshadowing my friend. The fact that it was a dream in the OP doesn't mean the show isn't putting those images in your head. Now, if the show itself established that Hazama was a daydreamer who often imagined himself in legit superhero scenarios (similar to what happened in C3-Bu) then I'd agree with you, but it hasn't at all. The only time we saw it happen was in this episode but he was reading a Samumenco story his grandfather wrote and picturing it happening. That's not a thematic element. Once I saw that the show wasn't going that way (where a mugger suddenly became a giant monster in his mind) I went back to suspecting it was some kind of clue. But hey, we don't even know where this is going yet. All I was saying was that even if the show now becomes supernatural, I wouldn't consider it a bad move at all if the show continued to be as funny and engaging as its been. |
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MCAL said: Well tokyo magnitude's twist was very different from thisI am painfully reminded of the twist in Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 (You know... THAT twist). |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
RantingDuck said: Whoa, I thought maybe a anti-hero or evil drug lord (etc) next but never had I guess mutated gorilla beheading people. Sht just got too real too fast for me... I was expecting the same thing. The gorilla blew my mind. |
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neontaster said: Candor said: Look, from the beginning I wanted this show to be proper tokusatsu show with evil and good, so stop the nonsense about "It's not like I wanted so I don't like it", 'cause it's not that way. I have no problem with the show turning into an action show, but not in this abrupt way. They director/script-writer should've thrown hints from the beginning of how he wants the show to be, things that tell us the show is more than just a SoL adventures of a super-hero-wannabe, or at least put something like that in the OP (which also shows no supernatural elements). The first 2-3 episodes, the episodes that normally set-up how a show should be, showed nothing of that sort, they just showed some parody realistic aspects with absolutely no hints of supernatural things. Yet out of nowhere, and after 2:15 hours of 6 episodes and a half, the show started introducing some mutating creatures and flying evil villain. The hints soulelle brought are subtle hints that may say the show is a "bit" not that unrealistic, which can be overlooked due to the fact that this is an anime, but suddenly a villain appears and the show turns into serious mode with a lot of too supernatural stuff? Of course people would go wtf. I did have thoughts about "why would the show be 22 episodes for such a simple plot?", but that doesn't mean it should be ok to make things random as fuck without proper writing. Wait what? The OP has him in a real superhero suit battling a giant robot that shoots lasers! Granted, that's technically not "supernatural" but it certainly hints at something more towards the fantasy realm of super heroes. Besides, I still think the subtle hints are there. Once the whole grandfather thing came into play I really started to feel like something big was coming. I actually thought that the samumenco logo on the grave was some kind of button that would open up into a secret lair with high tech crime fighting gear. Hell, that may still happen. The opening is a dream |
| Ah, soulelle, you took the words out of my mouth. Postmodernism... This air is all about fooling others, writing books that end fucking weird (if they even end at all : Maupassant) I wanted to give more importance to this discussion, but litrydrow, JizzyHitler, and Candor, you guys just are being close-minded and subjectively saying you don't like it. Here's the definition of PLOT TWIST : Wikipedia said: A plot twist is a radical change in the expected direction or outcome of the plot of a novel, film, television series, comic, video game, or other work of narrative. It is a common practice in narration used to keep the interest of an audience, usually surprising them with a revelation. Some "twists" are foreshadowed. "Some" twists are foreshadowed. Breaking barriers, it could have happened @ episode 20 for all I care, it's a technique used, and if done on purpose, it's considered art in many domains, it takes skill also to back up such an intense step forward. |
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| The ending was insane!! I wouldn't have guessed we'd get robotic gorillas decapitating people in this anime. |
Valaskjalf said: The opening is a dream Did you really think we would go the entire show without seeing him in that suit? Because I didn't. |
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| Well, that escalated quickly. A gorilla that spawned metal and a functioning guillotine out of a human being from a pill. Killed 12 cops, 1 civilian photographer and even decapitated one of the cops. And then blew up in a suicide bombing. This show has just taken a direction I did not expect. The closest thing to death I've seen so far was destroyed manhood. The heroes in this show are going to need weapons designed to kill and neutralize now. If the villains are going to play that game first. Now we have a villain with an Anonymous mask and a cactus hat. |
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| Someone.. Help me understand what the hell just happened. It's like the entire mood for the show just changed from slice of life to supernatural.. I can't wait for next week |
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| Go Flamenco! Go Goto-san! Fingers crossed, but really, I hope this is [not] a dream! Bored Mari is actually cute! And so many beautiful Ishihara moments! <3 5/5 |
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| I have mixed feelings for this episode. On one hand I'm excited about the new development. Samurai Flamenco, a real superhero with kickass gadgets fighting superhuman (or in this case inhuman) bad guys and robots? Who would've thought this show would go down that route what with the laid back tone it had for 6 and a half episodes?! On the other hand, a part of me is saying "that was terrible." I figured this show would go down that traditional sci-fi superhero route eventually but I didn't think it would be this sudden. I understand why some of you guys are upset about the lack of foreshadowing. I don't mind it much but I don't really like it when shows leave me with a "WTF just happened I don't get it" kind of feeling haha >__< Maybe if they showed an ongoing investigation about decapitated bodies or some sort? That could at least indicate this show is darker than we thought though the idea of a man transforming to a gorilla with a guillotine on his abdomen is still too far-fetched. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
Tyrel said: tunnel vision.This show just went from okay to shit. Seriously? A gorilla? A guy transforming into a gorilla? Yeah okay. Nice asspull. |
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| I was really liking this episode, and then the end happened... and now I don't know what to feel... I'm not sure if it really happened, or if it was a dream, or something being filmed... It's very odd. I don't know if this direction will be good or bad... I guess time will tell! |
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| woah. . ., I guess it's so surprising since up to this point there were no supernatural aspects to the series. . Why did they law enforcement officers have to die D= I was hoping this series might be fighting evil, but you know, no deaths unless it is really necessary or major. I was hoping it'd be a dream. Well, it was a miss for me. |
Yasu-kunNov 21, 2013 8:32 PM
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| wdf just happened? you cereal? a evil organization!? robot monkey that actually KILLED a person O__O!? My mind is really blown this time, sht~~ xD |
| What the fuck did just happen. Just what. So is this going to be supernatural? Then I bet Hazama will form a team with others to fight this "Evil organization". This is more and more like Tiger and Bunny. Either way, guys calm down, just wait to see how this will turn out. At this point it might be everything, we're still at episode 7 after all. Personally, I don't think it's an asspull, rather I'm more interested now. JizzyHitler said: name them, name a single story that resulted in greatness of a singular twist that had 0 foreshadowing hints or structure. Do you want an hint? The opening is clearly an hint. |
AkanezoraNov 21, 2013 9:03 PM
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| O_O Wow. That was crazy. I was wondering if that was a dream sequences...but based on Hazama and Goto's shocked reaction...yeah chances are good it's not. That...really escalated quickly! I was thinking for fighting organised crime or something. Not fighting an evil organization. But he got his wish didn't he? He did say early on he wanted to fight an evil organization. |
| To sum up the last 5 or so minutes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udNHsk57f24 |
Akanezora said: JizzyHitler said: name them, name a single story that resulted in greatness of a singular twist that had 0 foreshadowing hints or structure. Do you want an hint? The opening is clearly an hint. That's also an illogical argument to begin with because even if no story ever managed to do that, it doesn't mean it can't be done. Every original idea had never been done before up to that point. Before Memento came out you could say "Name a single story that resulted in greatness that started at the final climax and worked its way backwards to the beginning." Does that make the idea inherently unworkable? Absolutely not. And I can name several, for that matter. Mostly from novels but stories are stories. The Passage by Justin Cronin. The Night's Dawn Trilogy by Peter F. Hamilton has a gigantic twist relatively late in the story that has exactly zero setup, and it's a really weird twist that sounds lame at first but he makes it work brilliantly. I could keep going but my point was that even if no such examples existed, there's always the first time something works well, up until which that idea had not been done well and it doesn't mean shit. |
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This. After the drug bust, the cops decided to celebrate with the drugs in the room, and the last 5 minutes happened. |
| A match made in heaven set the fires in hell |
| I though the guy had an epileptic seizure and suddenly a gorilla with a guillotine pops up and decapitates some cops... boy, that escalated quickly and it was completely unexpected I'm really looking forward to the next episode. Maybe from here on the story will start getting darker |
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NaughtyNoddy said: I though the guy had an epileptic seizure and suddenly a gorilla with a guillotine pops up and decapitates some cops... boy, that escalated quickly and it was completely unexpected Yup... this was pretty much my face: http://images.wikia.com/friends/images/d/da/Shocked.gif |
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| WTF just happened XD that was awesome. Never seen this coming at all. He's gonna need better weapons. |
Akanezora said: JizzyHitler said: name them, name a single story that resulted in greatness of a singular twist that had 0 foreshadowing hints or structure. Do you want an hint? The opening is clearly an hint. At this part of the OP http://i.imgur.com/A8mOgF0.png Lyrics: "Mie nai teki wa dare?" "Who’s the invisible enemy?" My guess is the idols. They use explosions, the Gorrilla exploded. COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT! But really I have no clue and it might not even be actual forshadowing. |
VioLinkNov 21, 2013 11:07 PM
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| Everything changed. I normally wouldn't believe this ending, thinking it was just a joke, but the whole episode was different, but it follows the progression. This whole time I've been wondering if he's ever going to get powers, based on the intro to the anime, it seems like he might get all that. Each episode has been a drastic change as far as the main character goes, but I wasn't really sure if it would ever lead to this. I still have my doubts but man this is crazy. |
| Laughed my fucking ass off. Did that really just happen? Ahahahahaha God damn... good stuff. I think I might be on whatever drugs that dude was taking, 'cause I really dunno what to think about that final scene. I mean, I always had a sneaking suspicion that the only way this would change is with some random event, but nothing like this. The gore, for some reason didn't surprise me at all... especially when he grabbed that dude, I knew what was coming. But wtf lol, that was... a wow for me, why is that monster-ape so retardedly unrealistic? That's not even supernatural... that's just bizarre and as random as it gets. I honestly don't know what to feel, not sure if that was what I secretly hoped for or not. During this episode I had mixed feelings... at first I was thinking to myself: "You know, maybe there won't be a "main villain" in this, and we'll get to see a softer kind of hero who just fights petty crimes, and actually has a normal life on the side." Then, when we found out about his parents, I was disappointed because I thought: "Man, is this Spider-Man, why can't they just have a hero who doesn't have some tragic history to make him do good? Can't he just be a naturally heroic person? Honestly I wish they would be different... I mean it was so long ago, why would that really bother him now?" Then, I was pleasantly surprised when they did exactly that... and he said all that he did, not being fueled by it at all. And after all that it gives us that. Honestly I underestimated the hell out of this series... I thought it was meh at first, but I think this just went up a few ratings for me, just because of the amount of bullshit at the end, and the balls it took to do that. It's everything I did and didn't want at the same time in this series. And right after I posted last night how I didn't think this series could be as serious as other superhero stories... because it was too lighthearted. I mostly hope that actually just happened. I'd be kinda surprised if it didn't, and just had a random decapitation. Edit:I always thought that the opening was extremely unfitting though... so I really shouldn't be too surprised. It's funny, when Goto almost got his head cut off, I was ready to drop this series. Yeah... Goto's death would've made me drop this, but not a human being randomly turning into a "guillotine gorilla". |
HalibelTheEspadaNov 21, 2013 11:39 PM
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psychopath666 said: VioLink said: Akanezora said: JizzyHitler said: name them, name a single story that resulted in greatness of a singular twist that had 0 foreshadowing hints or structure. Do you want an hint? The opening is clearly an hint. At this part of the OP http://i.imgur.com/A8mOgF0.png Lyrics: "Mie nai teki wa dare?" "Who’s the invisible enemy?" My guess is the idols. They use explosions, the Gorrilla exploded. COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT! But really I have no clue and it might not even be actual forshadowing. I really doubt the idols are the enemy. I'm thinking it will be something more dark and probably related with Hazama's parent's deaths. That part was a joke. |
VioLinkNov 21, 2013 11:43 PM
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VioLink said: Inb4, the "invisible enemy" is the only character besides Samurai Flamenco who isn't there... Sumi Ishihara, his manager.psychopath666 said: VioLink said: At this part of the OP http://i.imgur.com/A8mOgF0.png Lyrics: "Mie nai teki wa dare?" "Who’s the invisible enemy?" My guess is the idols. They use explosions, the Gorrilla exploded. COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT! But really I have no clue and it might not even be actual forshadowing. I really doubt the idols are the enemy. I'm thinking it will be something more dark and probably related with Hazama's parent's deaths. That part was a joke. Also gonna call it now that Jouji is killed at some point. Assuming this series really is going down the dark/gruesome path. |
| Notice at the end of the op Samurai Flamenco = SF = Sci-fi |
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| I wouldn't say so quickly that there was any building or structure, there was an ellipsis between the moment they caught that guy in the park and the police raid, so the most common thing to me is to think is that omitted period of time will be explained on the next episode. |
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