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Jan 21, 2013 4:23 AM

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loved it, would rate it 9/10 The artwork and music was awesome so was the storyline.

Can't wait till they announce that it will continue !!!!!!
Jan 21, 2013 7:16 AM

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Sabinlerose said:
Umeharu said:
iCards said:
I decided to re-watch the series without people fighting eachother week to week and Sword Art Online, with its problems, is an easy 8/10, 4/5, etc...
i love how you gave Guilty Crown 10/10. Fantastic.

lol this is kinda funny though. Back when Haruhi was popular, my friends were saying how good it was and I just sat there thinking, "oh....really? What's the appeal?" I didn't really understand and I guess SAO is the same. Still, I wouldn't rate Haruhi in 5-6 range but maybe 7-8 unlike SAO. When I look at the merit of the show, I can definitely see why it would suck and why it wouldn't in some cases. I am leaning more towards why it sucks because they seem more justified.

I am a more of a Monster type of guy, who likes a good narrative with proper structure and nice build up to conclusion. Funny how i loved Eureka Seven more than I could ever love SAO. my favorite shonen of all time. greatest romance story ever told lol just kidding. still close enough :)

p.s. whattt Eureka Seven is rated lower than SAO

It's older, that's why.
When it came out plays a LARGE part of how well it is rated on MAL.

Legend of the Galactic Heros is one of the few exceptions, exceeding even though it's old. Perhaps because it's old, really.


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Not sure what to think of the show.
I enjoyed it a lot.
I enjoyed the music.
I enjoyed the art, and felt the animation was very good.
The plot was good. Nothing to serious. Nor did it ever pretend to be more then it was trying to be.


What?
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
Jan 21, 2013 2:37 PM

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For those wondering what he said at the end was this, "I am totally going to fuck you both tonight". Lolol that's what I want to believe.
Jan 21, 2013 4:09 PM
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Sabinlerose said:

The plot was good. Nothing to serious. Nor did it ever pretend to be more then it was trying to be.
I am sure I could write an essay to prove this wrong but I gotta eat some cake and punch some babies.
UmeharuJan 21, 2013 4:13 PM
Jan 21, 2013 9:08 PM

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Umeharu said:
Sabinlerose said:

The plot was good. Nothing to serious. Nor did it ever pretend to be more then it was trying to be.
I am sure I could write an essay to prove this wrong but I gotta eat some cake and punch some babies.


I would kindly request you throwing out something, rather then something?
I would enjoy seeing your side of why you feel what I said it wrong. Not some trollish comment saying "lol wrong."

BloodRequiem said:
What?

It never took itself to seriously.

It had the potential to dive into a lot of deep moral issues. But it never did.
And that's where I feel a large portion of people experience disappointment. The setup was something that COULD have been much much more.

Despite all the potential, it was a story about someone kicking ass and falling in love.
Love that largely unfolded quickly, and behind the scenes sadly.
Jan 22, 2013 1:17 AM

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Sabinlerose said:

It never took itself to seriously.


Are you serious about that? "MMO IS SRZ BSNS" is basically the topic 80% of the time.
Steel Ball Run anime when?
Jan 22, 2013 2:32 PM
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Sabinlerose said:
I would kindly request you throwing out something, rather then something?
I would enjoy seeing your side of why you feel what I said it wrong. Not some trollish comment saying "lol wrong."


Er, just, "Can you provide evidence? thank you~" would've sufficed instead of slapping me with the "other side" as if this is some sort of a battle between good and evil...I actually think SAO is really a thoughtful series and tries to justify a lot of its flaws by providing some sort of explanations for them. I appreciate the author's ability to see the flaws in his plots and make apologizes for it, which he did.

So...I am not really sure what you mean by, "my side" because that only antagonizes other opinions and not really anything.

Sabinlerose said:
It never took itself to seriously.


Before I go on, I would really like to hear expanded version of, "It had the potential to dive into a lot of deep moral issues. But it never did." Because, well, it kinda did...or at least tried. Not a moral issue but issues and conflicts from varying events...real or non-realistic. I think that it tried to go into it but didn't really deliver them properly, which is another issue I think. I think some fans called this realistic....mmmm

I guess we should define what serious means before we go on:

1. Demanding careful consideration or application.
2. not joking or trifling
3. having important or dangerous possible consequences
4. requiring much thought or work
5. of, showing, or characterized by deep thought.

Now, I pulled those off from a number of dictionary websites... blehbelhefe

ex. What does it mean to be a MMO player? Consequences of death and how do players face them? (Third episode wink wink. suicide) and this could relate to kirito's character and detective episodes.

Example 1: Premise & Ending
Fight through the 100 level-dungeon. If you die, you are dead. No respawn. This shit is serious and exciting to a lot of MMO players. I play MMO and the very idea that I can't re-spawn frightens me. This whole premise is no joke. It is, quiet honestly, serious without any doubt. That's why so many people were drawn into this show for awhile until it became something else.

Now, for the ending of first arc. We are not really given a proper explanation but to fans and SAO lovers alike, this kinda builds a mystery behind the whole thing. Some say that Kayaba has a god complex and probably just did everything for the lulz. Still, Kayaba was actually an interesting villain to a degree because he showed some class and complexity to his character. His conversation with Kirito at the end shows that he was truly passionate about this world that he created and believed in something more than just a physical realm...you could say it is all bullshit but this the intention of the villain is stunning. the villain was pretty serious about what he did and why he did it. That's really a nice way to craft a villain who isn't just bad for the sake of being bad. Now, second arc is different...it's simplistic and there is no complexity to his character...he is just evil..for the sake of being evil...Still, Kayaba is a good example to illustrate the author's attention to detail and his attempt to portray a character who is vastly different from your common shounen enemies.

Example 2: Characters
Kirito says multiple times that this game (even ALO) is a serious business. That's why he thinks that killing for the sake of fun in games isn't his style because he has a set of moral that he must follow (he blurs the line of reality and virtual reality and basically treats them as same. By doing so, Kirito is open in RL just as he is open in virtual reality. Remember when Kirito said Virtual reality was his escape? This is how he overcame that, I guess). I even asked the fans whether there were any character development. They said there was. They took this seriously. The game helped Kirito to overcome his problems in house (his family/cousin) and "learn about his life" through Asuna (citation: fans who read LN). This romance was kept at serious level as well, as if it was the prime motivation of the character to continue fighting after her death, which I guess leads him to defy the laws of physics. Oh, past experiences and sacrifices are kinda displayed at the last episode of the "first" arc. I guess Sacchi's death was serious too. Or maybe it wasn't


Or let me just quote one of the conversation from episode 23, I think?
Kirito:
I haven't truly returned from that world yet.
It's not over.
Until she wakes up, my life can't begin anew.

Seriously, this is some deep shit...and quality writing, actually. Although second arc was a shit in terms of plot wise, the dialogues were pretty epic and I enjoyed that conversation immensely.

Example 3: Drama
Funniest thing is that the harem is hinted constantly throughout the series. Each of his love interest (Silica, Liz, his cousin...) takes their relationship seriously. Harem is rarely used as a serious plot device. It is literally meant for comedic purposes. Unfortunately, harem became a serious fucking drama. IF it was not serious, it wouldn't go into the drama and other shit like crying and jesting about their unrequited love. What the fuck? Seriously, Liz notices Kirito's relationship with Asuna near the end of that episode and then cries at god who knows where? What about Sugu who finds out that her crush was, once again, her brother and rants about her pain or some shit. It's pointless and doesn't serve any purpose, other than to evoke emotions from the audience and feel pity for the characters. I guess this wouldn't be serious if we consider this to be hilariously bad, therefore, it is good.

Example 4: The tone of the show
The seriousness of the show is usually judged by the tone of the show, the theme and the message, and characters' interaction. Serious shows tries to capture the audience's emotion to the character. When they die, we are supposed to feel sympathetic to dead characters and watch the weight of the hero who has to bears that pain. This was episode 3. Also, the tone of the romance is strangely odd by the honeymoon stage (sex, raising a child, and then saving a group of traumatized children......all this sounds....very mature) How about the detective episodes? The consequence of changing personality and so on. SAO puts a lot of thoughts into this and brings realistic aspects into the show. Now, I enjoyed those episodes and I can really see the author's intention for making that available in the series.

Example 5: The theme: The death, the romance, and family problems are all at the level of seriousness. In Kore wa Zonbi Desu ka, a lot of death and shit takes back front and basically uses comedic reliefs and other funny stuff to defuse the seriousness of his condition. The whole idea that he is a zombie is silly and the show manages to make it funny. The show doesn't take itself seriously and people can enjoy it because it isn't. At the end of the series, the show uses pretentious villain who is ridiculous and uses clauses like "raison d'etre." This shit was hilarious because it was over the top and fucking odd. Great touch to a non-serious story.

Anyhow, great shounens are defined by it's ability to balance between comedy and seriousness. Naruto, at first, did exactly that...although some may find the humour silly and it probably is... (Naruto became too complicated but I guess that's too much to cover) Gurren Lagaan was over the top, which allows us to suspend our "realism detector" in the backburner and enjoy the show for what it is. i should mention that gurren lagaan was funny and entertaining too, while maintaining a serious attitude about what they do.

SAO is an oddball because it was serious to max in the beginning, then defused the tension afterwards. The whole tension of survival of the fittest disappears in the middle and it dribbles down into damsel in distress plot. That's when it starts to detach itself from the serious elements. Not because it didn't take itself seriously (actually, the villain was over the top....but I don't think that was intentional....), but because it was so fucking ridiculous and over the top. Basically, it became, "it's so bad that it's funny."

To cap it up, SAO wasn't really over the top at the first half. It wasn't a comedy for sure. That leaves us, the audience, to think about what SAO was really about. If it wasn't comedy, then it must have been going for something more serious. If it wasn't over the top, then maybe it had some sort of realism to it. Considering the themes and er...the drama, it leads me to believe that the show takes itself seriously without a doubt, or take the route of, "it's so bad and ridiculous, it's funny.". The premise alone should be enough to tell you whether the show is serious or not (which the show manages to make it into a subplot....and the romance kinda takes over. sort of like when Shin becomes a side character after half a season and Kira takes over in Gundam Seed Destiny)

if it is not serious but has no elements of comedic relief or over the top nature, it...probably is a bad show....

Anyhow, take this review for instance: http://kotaku.com/sword-art-online/ and tell me how people "judge" this show. Seriously or not seriously. How do people judge the content of this show? And so on. All these are good indicators to illustrate how the material is portrayed to the masses and reviewers.
UmeharuJan 22, 2013 6:06 PM
Jan 23, 2013 3:10 AM

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A decent ending. This is also a pretty good stopping point if they decided not to do any more seasons....but with how popular this is, I don't see why they wouldn't. I might continue to read the the LN (I stopped at pretty much the same place the anime stopped).
Jan 23, 2013 1:02 PM

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What a nice, happy, and beautiful ending. Loved that reunion scene between Asuna and Kirito, and it was nice to watch them act all lovey-dovey afterwards. It was also great to see all of those SAO players again and see that they're all alright. Poor Liz and Silica haha. And I thought that final scene in ALO with them going after Aincrad again was a perfect way to end everything off-until the inevitable next season I guess.
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Jan 23, 2013 2:34 PM

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I didn't expect to love this anime so much. But i fckin diiiiiiiid. Great way to end everything. It had the virtual world as the ending which i liked, but everything in rl was just perfect in my mind. I love how they wove the real world in with everything.
Jan 23, 2013 9:52 PM

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I finally finished this series after a month this episode has aired and it seems the fan boys, nitpickers and haters are still at it. Ah well, I'll leave them be.

Anyway I enjoyed the entire series so I'm gonna give it 8/10 in my book.
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Jan 23, 2013 10:40 PM

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Hmm....I'm really not too sure how to feel about this anime. When it first started off I was hooked. The time skips were annoying but I could deal with them. Then the romance kicked in. Now I've got no problem with romance in my anime but I don't like it being the main focus when it's supposed to be an action anime. Even worse when it's poorly executed.

So the romance forced it's way down my throat= Okay, I guess they've known each other for two years so it makes sense.

Next they get married and get a house together= Err, well it's only in the game so it's not a big deal or anything.

Next they pick up a program and act like it's their child= Umm, okay.....

Next the program dies and they act like it was their real child who they raised for years when they knew her for two days= Well, maybe they're just soft(even though Kirito doesn't shed a tear for the deaths of human comrades)

Next Asuna becomes the damsel in distress= Yeah this is gonna keep going down hill isn't it?

Next Suguha is in love with her brother= I just want this to be over.

I think the problem is that it starts on a high note where it's all about survival but it quickly degenerates into a love story. I mean you go from SAO where everyone's lives are at stake to ALO where the only one in any danger is Asuna. The arcs really should have been in reverse. It doesn't help that neither arc has a particularly good villain either.

I did like the music and art though for the most part. There were also some moments I really liked as well, such as Sugou coming after Kirito in real life. It had a lot of potential but it's flaws brought it down from something that could be really great to just slightly above average. 6/10
Jan 29, 2013 2:05 AM

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Whew finally completed SAO, I gotta say that was a fun ride.

Now down to SAO vs ALO, imo I prefer ALO over SAO. SAO seems all over the place and had a very bad pacing, although I hated the netorare crap in ALO, it has better pacing than SAO even though it has lesser episode
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Hmm....I'm really not too sure how to feel about this anime. When it first started off I was hooked. The time skips were annoying but I could deal with them. Then the romance kicked in. Now I've got no problem with romance in my anime but I don't like it being the main focus when it's supposed to be an action anime. Even worse when it's poorly executed.

So the romance forced it's way down my throat= Okay, I guess they've known each other for two years so it makes sense.

Next they get married and get a house together= Err, well it's only in the game so it's not a big deal or anything.

Next they pick up a program and act like it's their child= Umm, okay.....

Next the program dies and they act like it was their real child who they raised for years when they knew her for two days= Well, maybe they're just soft(even though Kirito doesn't shed a tear for the deaths of human comrades)

Next Asuna becomes the damsel in distress= Yeah this is gonna keep going down hill isn't it?

Next Suguha is in love with her brother= I just want this to be over.

I think the problem is that it starts on a high note where it's all about survival but it quickly degenerates into a love story. I mean you go from SAO where everyone's lives are at stake to ALO where the only one in any danger is Asuna. The arcs really should have been in reverse. It doesn't help that neither arc has a particularly good villain either.

I did like the music and art though for the most part. There were also some moments I really liked as well, such as Sugou coming after Kirito in real life. It had a lot of potential but it's flaws brought it down from something that could be really great to just slightly above average. 6/10
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In short SAO was awesome and i would give it a 9/10. ALO (5/10) went downhill and fast they set a standard in SAO and just couldnt match it in ALO.
Feb 4, 2013 2:58 PM
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Great Anime. AlO wasn't so good but all anime has some flaws
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I've a lot of expectation in this anime considering how many ratings and review this anime have. And yeah, it is as good as people said. I just don't understand why there are people who hate this anime. The only think i can think off is that either they hate mainstream anime or perhaps more prefer heavy romance genre.

And about recommendation section, many people put this anime in the same category as Accel World. Lol, what a joke. I already got hook when i watched SAO 1st episode while i was about to dropped Accel World after watched 1st episode. SAO is superior than Accel World in every aspect you can think off. Not to mention that SAO MC have perfect MC traits(Physically and Mentally) while Accel World MC is just a pig(ALSO physically and mentally).

Overall 8/10. It would be 9/10 if ALO arc is as good as SAO arc.
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I've a lot of expectation in this anime considering how many ratings and review this anime have. And yeah, it is as good as people said. I just don't understand why there are people who hate this anime. The only think i can think off is that either they hate mainstream anime or perhaps more prefer heavy romance genre.

And about recommendation section, many people put this anime in the same category as Accel World. Lol, what a joke. I already got hook when i watched SAO 1st episode while i was about to dropped Accel World after watched 1st episode. SAO is superior than Accel World in every aspect you can think off. Not to mention that SAO MC have perfect MC traits(Physically and Mentally) while Accel World MC is just a pig(ALSO physically and mentally).

Overall 8/10. It would be 9/10 if ALO arc is as good as SAO arc.


>I don't know why people would hate this anime
Read the reviews
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^ I've read them. There are quite a lot of reason that i can't agree. I tried to check my anime affinity with them and yeah, it's low. All i can say i say is different people, different tastes of anime. Mainstream anime probably just not suit for them, not because the anime is bad. Most of the bad reviewers seems to love more psychological or slice of life anime rather than mainstream.
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^ I've read them. There are quite a lot of reason that i can't agree. I tried to check my anime affinity with them and yeah, it's low. All i can say i say is different people, different tastes of anime. Mainstream anime probably just not suit for them, not because the anime is bad. Most of the bad reviewers seems to love more psychological or slice of life anime rather than mainstream.


Then ask yourself the question: Why do most people with a huge amount of watched anime/read manga prefer these type of series? Or even better: Why do most people who rate SAO low give reasons that include characterization, art direction, budget, story composition, etc. while almost all 10/10 review basically just say "lol, it's gud becauz i enjoyed it^^"?

But then again:
Not to mention that SAO MC have perfect MC traits(Physically and Mentally) while Accel World MC is just a pig(ALSO physically and mentally).


I guess you don't care how realistic or grounded characters are as long as you get your wish-fulfillment fantasies.
And no, these people don't prefer "obscure" or "romance heavy" anime, they prefer good anime. And SAO is not good.

PS:
In before "enjoyment is the only thing that matters when rating" or "haters gonna hate". Those aren't arguments, just buzzwords.
NidhoeggrFeb 11, 2013 5:57 PM
Steel Ball Run anime when?
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Nidhoeggr said:


Then ask yourself the question: Why do most people with a huge amount of watched anime/read manga prefer these type of series? Or even better: Why do most people who rate SAO low give reasons that include characterization, art direction, budget, story composition, etc. while almost all 10/10 review basically just say "lol, it's gud becauz i enjoyed it^^"?


Well it is obviously because it is good. If this anime is bad, then there's no way this anime can be the top anime of 2012. People won't enjoy it if is boring.

You said "haters gonna hate". That is argument. I for one despise shoujo anime so i never bother watching any anime from that kind of genre. Whatever people said won't make me change my mind. This also goes to people who hate SAO. Like i said, different people have different taste of anime. You can't expect everyone to be the same.

P.S - More than thousand of people love this anime while less than a hundred hate the anime. What can you conclude about that?
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Cresando said:
Nidhoeggr said:


Then ask yourself the question: Why do most people with a huge amount of watched anime/read manga prefer these type of series? Or even better: Why do most people who rate SAO low give reasons that include characterization, art direction, budget, story composition, etc. while almost all 10/10 review basically just say "lol, it's gud becauz i enjoyed it^^"?


Well it is obviously because it is good. If this anime is bad, then there's no way this anime can be the top anime of 2012. People won't enjoy it if is boring.

You said "haters gonna hate". That is argument. I for one despise shoujo anime so i never bother watching any anime from that kind of genre. Whatever people said won't make me change my mind. This also goes to people who hate SAO. Like i said, different people have different taste of anime. You can't expect everyone to be the same.

P.S - More than thousand of people love this anime while less than a hundred hate the anime. What can you conclude about that?


Two things that are logically wrong with your post:
1. Popularity!=quality.
2. "Haters Gonna Hate" is a cop out statement and is no different from "I said so, therefore it is" because it provides nothing constructive to the discussion nor any evidence to back up your claims.
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Cresando said:
Nidhoeggr said:


Then ask yourself the question: Why do most people with a huge amount of watched anime/read manga prefer these type of series? Or even better: Why do most people who rate SAO low give reasons that include characterization, art direction, budget, story composition, etc. while almost all 10/10 review basically just say "lol, it's gud becauz i enjoyed it^^"?


Well it is obviously because it is good. If this anime is bad, then there's no way this anime can be the top anime of 2012. People won't enjoy it if is boring.

You said "haters gonna hate". That is argument. I for one despise shoujo anime so i never bother watching any anime from that kind of genre. Whatever people said won't make me change my mind. This also goes to people who hate SAO. Like i said, different people have different taste of anime. You can't expect everyone to be the same.

P.S - More than thousand of people love this anime while less than a hundred hate the anime. What can you conclude about that?


Simple.

Look at Twilight.

There's your answer.
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Cresando said:

Random stuff, basically "enjoyment = quality", "popular = good" and "haters gonna hate"


Why do I even bother?
It is clear that you do not have the mental capacity to formulate an opinion that goes beyond these petty statements with absolutely zero value in a discussion about characterization, production values and other crtieria. But then again, most of the fans of SAO seem to have problems with that.
Sigh, arguing against a brick wall is pointless...
NidhoeggrFeb 12, 2013 4:04 AM
Steel Ball Run anime when?
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Cresando said:
Nidhoeggr said:


Then ask yourself the question: Why do most people with a huge amount of watched anime/read manga prefer these type of series? Or even better: Why do most people who rate SAO low give reasons that include characterization, art direction, budget, story composition, etc. while almost all 10/10 review basically just say "lol, it's gud becauz i enjoyed it^^"?


Well it is obviously because it is good. If this anime is bad, then there's no way this anime can be the top anime of 2012. People won't enjoy it if is boring.

You said "haters gonna hate". That is argument. I for one despise shoujo anime so i never bother watching any anime from that kind of genre. Whatever people said won't make me change my mind. This also goes to people who hate SAO. Like i said, different people have different taste of anime. You can't expect everyone to be the same.

P.S - More than thousand of people love this anime while less than a hundred hate the anime. What can you conclude about that?


I'll use the Michael Bay Transformers movies as an example. They made a killer in the box office. Were they boring? No. Is there story and characters good? Lol fuck no. All i remember was Shia LaBeouf was yelling as acting, and the rest of the cast was underwhelming.Then you get a number of plot hiccups like him showing up in Robot heaven. It also ran for waaay too long so the pacing was slower than it should be.
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Gotta say i was real skeptical of this series at first but it really got good. And overall i liked Kirito (at times he was sorta beta) but overal he was great. I like animes where the main character is OP for most of the anime and remains on top. Plus Kirito is the type of guy who forgets to turn his swag off at night and wakes up covered in b!%$es. I mean come on he suduced asuna, 2 other players, an AI, and his own sister/cousin!!! Props man, the whole time. overall
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Cresando said:
And about recommendation section, many people put this anime in the same category as Accel World. Lol, what a joke. I already got hook when i watched SAO 1st episode while i was about to dropped Accel World after watched 1st episode. SAO is superior than Accel World in every aspect you can think off. Not to mention that SAO MC have perfect MC traits(Physically and Mentally) while Accel World MC is just a pig(ALSO physically and mentally).


Lmao, no. The only reason Accel World is rated lower is because of the character's design. If Taku had been the main character while keeping Haru's personality it would probably be well over 8 by now. Just because SAO has a more normal looking lead does not make it a better anime. SAO has poor pacing, non existent character development and everyone who's not Kirito is next to useless.
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And about recommendation section, many people put this anime in the same category as Accel World. Lol, what a joke. I already got hook when i watched SAO 1st episode while i was about to dropped Accel World after watched 1st episode. SAO is superior than Accel World in every aspect you can think off. Not to mention that SAO MC have perfect MC traits(Physically and Mentally) while Accel World MC is just a pig(ALSO physically and mentally).


Lmao, no. The only reason Accel World is rated lower is because of the character's design. If Taku had been the main character while keeping Haru's personality it would probably be well over 8 by now. Just because SAO has a more normal looking lead does not make it a better anime. SAO has poor pacing, non existent character development and everyone who's not Kirito is next to useless.


The reason is that it's harder for otaku to self insert into a beta pig (character who is similar to them in real life).
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i completely disagree that accel world ratings are due to the MC , the story in itself is not that good..
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i completely disagree that accel world ratings are due to the MC , the story in itself is not that good..


And the story for SAO is? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Accel World is a top tier anime like Code Geass or Fullmetal Alchemist but the story is coherent, fluid and it's fun to watch. SAO on the other hand had a lot of potential(maybe even more so than Accel World) but it was executed badly.

There's no denying that everyone's main complaint about the Accel World is Haru's appearance. There have been multiple topics solely to talk about it that go on for several pages. Some people dropped it specifically because of that despite liking the story.
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i completely disagree that accel world ratings are due to the MC , the story in itself is not that good..


Then you must have missed the discussions while it was airing.
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For the arc to be based on the romance, they really half assed the ending, I fail to see why make Sugu a focal point in this episode, it downplays the whole thing when Asuna and Sugu are "equals" so to speak, meh 7/10, this episode doesnt bother me considering i'm still pissed at the execution between arcs


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The production value for this anime was pretty good. I enjoyed most of the first half of the anime and thought that it should've ended at episode 14, which would make for a perfect "open ending" scenario. Probably piss off a lot of people, but heck if they wanted to they might as well replaced episode 15 with 25, remove the parking lot scene and I'm sure that would've upped the favorable responses.

But I am all for trying to determine what the author was trying to get at for the entire season (if there was any meaning, theme, or hidden message at all. I doubt there were but I still did "get" something out of it). Perhaps it was a risk, but the two halves of this season sort of exemplifies how important the notion of death has in anything.

I mean, imagine if we had infinite retries (and knew about it), all of a sudden things seem much less interesting. Meaning and importance start to lose their strength. And of course, the overall excitement of the audience, storyteller, and even the main character dwindles. Social bonding wouldn't be as strong without the added effect from the life-death scenarios. Maybe the author was toying with this idea and made it so that even in an ideal situation (virtual world full of things to explore, a main purpose/goal, etc), without the concept of death most people will just be "playing around" and not taking things seriously.

Honestly, while there were some elements in this anime which is targeted towards specific audiences (understandable), but I think the second half was bloated with them. The sister love/tentacle thing was, IMO, completely unnecessary. I think several previous comments made a valid point that the anime shifted from struggle for survival, psychological theme to the cliche/sappy stuff afterwards. That shift sort of threw me off, and that inconsistency is what I believe which made the second half such a drag to watch. Usually I think they would do these things if they're trying to rush an ending, however SAO seemed to have more than enough funding...
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I really enjoyed this anime! Though at first I thought it resembled the .Hack/ series a lot!
I think most of the haters of this anime is coz of Kirito.
But I have to say I found him to be quite normal and believable.

This anime was quite amazing, even though I felt really sad about Sugou/ Leafa.
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I really love this ending..<3
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Who is the blue haired girl at the end?

Is that Asuna?
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Who is the blue haired girl at the end?

Is that Asuna?

Yes




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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Sugou was the best part in whole SAO after 14 eps. Soo Takasugi <3
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This anime wasn't a masterpiece as rated here on MAL but I still really enjoyed the series and I don't think it doesn't deserve much hatred.

the OST was awesome though =w= ..as expected from Yuki Kajiura

7/10 for me~
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Aaaaaand.....we're done.

I actually feel bad about this, you know.


On the episode itself:
It was a really sweet finale. I still think that almost any other girl in the anime looks better than Asuna, like let's say Liz :D
It was funny how Kirito thought he'd get a real drink xD
I don't like how Kirito uploaded the World Seed into the Internet, the MMOs have far less value this way imo.
And what I least liked about this episode was the SAO rebuild - for me it'd be better if they have done so, in act of respect to all the people who died there.

As for the anime itself after its' end.:


1. Characters. +1. This anime had some good characters that felt so alive, like Liz, Sachi, that they were one of the main reasons I were so immersed into SAO in it's first episodes.
As for the main characters - I don't really like how Asuna got chosen for MC, or at least during most of the anime. I started liking her at a late point tho. Kirito was close to a horrible character to me during 2/3 of the anime, mostly because he was lacking character pattern, I couldn't really think that he was good or bad, white or black or almost anything. I guess that this is because the anime was long-run(25 episodes) and it was actually better choice for his character to be slowly developed/revealed. During the ALO arc he was finally developed enough for me to acknowledge him. At the end of it all, I actually think he's maybe a great character.
Kayaba Akihiko was one really interesting character in my opinion.
2. Atmosphere. +1. Well, SAO did so very well in this aspect - despite we knew that everything was happening in a virtual world, everything felt so real and immersing. Especially some moments.
3. OST. +1. The first ED was good, same goes for the second OP/ED too. The themes at some parts, especially the fights were one of the main reasons the anime was so immersing.
4. Animation. +1. Undsiputedly one of the best animations ever. I couldn't find even single flaw in it. The characters were designed so well <3
5. Background story. There was total lack of it, but there was no need for such actually, so I won't distract point for this one :D
6. Storyline. The only aspect of this anime I didn't really like, and this is mostly why I dropped it after episode 14/15. I expected totally different storyline, like SAO to get cleared to level 100 or something, but actually the plot was interrupted midway for me. That part felt so bad and out of place.. It's true that the plot got actually good after(and probably because of) this later on, but I still don't really like the overall plot of SAO.
7. Ending. +1. It was actually quite nice ending to the story. I don't think it could end in any better way, except if it was open-ended. I also disagree that there was Deus Ex Machina in episode 25.
8. Fight scenes. +1. They were indeed epic, despite at first I was like "they are just in a video game", even back then I couldn't say that I didn't think they were truly great and immersing.
9. Drama. +1 Well, kinda one of the major aspects of SAO. Especially during episodes 2-8, and 16-23. I still get depressed once I think of Sachi's death.
10. Overall affect. +1. It was a nice anime to watch overall. I have to say that SAO very well dived into the topic about virtual worlds, it concerned so much of their aspects that I haven't even considered of thought on before. I'd be wrong to say that SAO didn't do it's purpose very well. It was a great and memorable run nonetheless.

Overall score: 9/10. I kinda feel bad that there wouldn't be S2.
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Personally I loved SAO.
It had a fantastic concept and kept it strong and fluid throughout.
It deals with something every gamer has always wished.
And it gives you this sense of being immersed in the world with them.

And the reason I love SAO alot more now is because we might be able to experience that in out lifetime!!!!

There is this company called Oculus VRand they deal with virtual reality gaming. They have been able to go so far that we might be able to have that sense of being in the game soon enough!!

I'm not freaking joking go to their main website

http://www.oculusvr.com

watch the video they have when you first go to the site...

and heres this youtube video of an interview with the creators of it

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Pretty good ending for the series imo.
I knew Sugou would come back, and I'm happy Kirito didn't kill him even though he totally would have deserved it.
The meetings (IRL and in-game) were both nice to see. I was happy to see everyone again both IRL and in-game. The dance was a bit awkward but not bad. The idea of bringing Aincrad into ALO was nice, now they can have a new goal (and I also saw that they actually built a city on the top of Yggdrasil).
The idea of the Seed was not bad, though I still can't understand how people actually so happily play these games. I would be pretty careful after TWO incidents like SAO and ALO.

Now for the series. It was neither nearly as bad as people made it out to be, but nor as perfect as others said.
Since I'm an MMO fan myself, I really liked the basic concept of a virtual MMORPG. It really made me want to play MMOs again and I really hope that someday we will be able to experience a virtual MMO like this. Of course without the death. Though it's pretty funny that when I think about it, SAO as a game wouldn't actually be that good, it's a pretty basic game :D
The characters were mostly good, but not very memorable. I would have liked a lot more character development from pretty much everyone. The one with the most development was probably Suguha (Taketatsu Ayana is amazing), who I think was probably my favorite character in the anime, tying up with Asuna, I can't choose from the two, they are both amazing in their own way and I really liked their designs (Leafa for Suguha). It's kind of a shame that in the end Asuna became a damsel in distress, but I still liked her. I don't really understand why people hate her for this though, not like she could do fucking anything... But Kirito wasn't nearly as bad as people make him out to be either. I really hated though that we didn't really get much explanation to how is he so good in the game, apart from him playing games for a long time. And even Yui got somewhat likeable in the end.
As for the villains, I found Sugou to be a pretty mediocre villain. Nothing we haven't really seen before. Kayaba on the other hand (even though we didn't get to know much about him, which is a shame) was kind of admirable in his own way.
The ost was pretty good (Yuki Kajiura is awesome), especially the main theme which was played during most of the fights. Both OPs/EDs were good as well, but I probably won't listen to them.
The art style was of course beautiful.

The anime unfortunately had some major bullshit moments (for example Kirito breaking the laws of the game in the battle with Heathcliff due to the power of love or whatever) and some minor problems (like the way too much unnecessary fanservice like the tenctacle rape).
I also didn't like how they just skipped 2 years in like 4-5 episodes like nothing big happened during the time.
Even though the anime had some emotional moments, I wasn't able to get into most of them (like Sachi's rushed death).
Btw, the anime also had a lot of rushed events/moments. It would have been a lot better if the anime was like 35-40 episodes long. I would have liked if they have elaborated on some parts.
I actually liked the execution a bit more in ALO, even though it was shorter (which is a shame btw). I also liked the world of ALO more than SAO.

Like I said in the beginning this anime was not anything near bad, but also not as good as its hype claimed. Though I also heard that it actually wasn't a great adaptation at all, unfortunately. The anime had a lot of unused potential in it, but I'm delighted to say that it was still very enjoyable even with the problems of which I mentioned a few earlier. Objectively I would give this anime a 6/10, but I must give it more due to the level of enjoyment this gave me.
And thus, I'm giving this show a 8/10. If I heard right, a sequel is possible, so I'm looking forward to it. Until then, I might rewatch this in the future :)
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I really do not know how to rate all the unneccessary harem and fanservice elements. There were just too obvious and did not really blend in well.

Aside of that, I was expecting a more fantasy like series. I am relieved that it did not turn out like that. It was very technology based instead, with all those HP bars and gameplay explanations. Since I played a certain popular MMO for a very long time and am still playing P&P, I felt comfortable this way. Sometimes I even felt set back to those days when diving into the first days of my first MMO (which was World of Warcraft, as you may have guessed, in 2005) gave me a feeling of actually exploring something big, something new. There was no need for a full virtual reality to be paralyzed by that new kind of interactive world.

Exploring a new world, meeting new people, making memories together, maybe even meeting them in real life, even falling in love with one of them, transitioning with them to another game. Too bad those days full of excitement and enjoyment of a MMO have been long gone, so I cancelled my subscription some weeks ago after staying for a full 8 years. My guild mates kept me for some time, but even while there is always enough to do there, I just don't feel like it anymore.

I shall honor this anime just for giving me some glimpses of those feelings back, even just so little. Won't be a full 10, but it's getting a very personal 9.
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So this is how it ends, the last episode was nice.

8/10
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if the anime kept going from the first SAO Game and not to the new plot, imo the anime would be a 10/10
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Just completed SAO/ALO, it was pretty awesome... The end wasn't bad, but a little too rushed and pretty unclimatic. But yeah, the overall is nice. ALO too rushed, SAO not as rushed, but still has a very fast pace. I feel that they should use all 25 eps for SAO only, since there are room for improvement in their explanation. And they really have to buck up in their time management if they are making another season. Many episodes are wasted, and the pace is not great at all. I would like something magical and a unique twist to it, with a "will-be-in-your-dreams-tonight" kind of plot if there is another season. Hope for the best :)
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I thought the first half of this anime was right on track. Best first half. But then as it went into the next half, it was running out of steam. Personally, I thought that continuing onto the 100 floors would have made a better ending and plot. Plus, there might have been a chance there could have been an arc for the next season, if there is. =(
Overall, I would give this a 9/10 if out of the whole thing and 10/10 for the first half. But I enjoyed the first half so much that I would rate them separately, since it is almost about two separate worlds and plot.
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I just finished this anime :D I thank myself for watching it although I thought this just an overrated anime xD 9.8/10
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Was there even enough material in the novels to make the SAO into 25 episodes? Or would they have to create new bosses on each level, etc?

Anyhow, I'm glad I didn't listen to the negative comments about this series. I enjoyed it a lot even with the inconsistencies and not living up to its potential.
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