Dipp-Fish said: Armour wise, i always prefer light and mobile armour, it makes combat movements and transport easy. On top of that, it is a plus against a heavily armoured opponent, as they're held down with heavy metal, while you wearing thick leather pads, can literally run circles around your enemy. LOL Heavy troops that retain cohesion slaughters light troops by the busload. History is rife with countless examples. Armor doesnt make you slow, it keeps you alive and the increased morale that comes from being well protected allows a warrior to be able to deliver much more shock. |
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| Flute Flutes are pretty popular for a weapon! You may think this lovely thingy is good for music, but music can do so much more than sooth your spirit and mind! Music can mess with your balance, make people lose focus if they’re concentrating, and drive people weak and crazy. Some of the characters who used flutes as weapons include Huang Yaoshi in Legend of the Condor Heroes, he was able to make anyone dizzy and in pain when he blows his flute. Yu’er in Xuan Yuan Sword also used it, but more of a melody to control/calm the sprites she had. Xuenu in Qin’s Moon used it as her unique attack alled White Snow. Shui Ruohan often played the flute in Treasure Venture, which was able to create illusions in people’s minds. Oh, all the things music could do! The flute is also Xian Yue’s main weapon in Holy Pearl, where she used the sound of music to fight the demons and enemies. |
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Dipp-Fish said: Dankickyou said: LOL Heavy troops that retain cohesion slaughters light troops by the busload. History is rife with countless examples. Armor doesnt make you slow, it keeps you alive and the increased morale that comes from being well protected allows a warrior to be able to deliver much more shock. In response sir, the heavily armoured opponent becomes complacent and lax in his defense. Making him susceptible to an underhanded strike. While the lightly armoured combatant, his mind remains sharp and precise. --Sun Tzu His mind remains sharp and precise until an armored knight drives a poleaxe into his unarmored skull. The utility of armor in muscle powered combat is an unchallenged FACT. |
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| Contrary to popular believe Knights were actually highly trained, and used fighting techniques when they fought. A boy would start his training at the age of seven, that was when he would be sent off to a lords castle there he would become a page, as a page he would learn the arts of horsemanship, archery and sword fighting, and in return the boy would help around the castle. At the age of 14 the boy would become a squire, as a squire he would be attached to a knight who would train him in the arts of warfare, and in exchange the squire would help the knight with various things like prepare his armour, polish is sword etc. It was usually first around the age of 21 that the squire could go through the dubbing ceremony, where he would become a knight. I am tired of hearing people saying that knights were mindless brutes who just waved their swords around randomly and hoped for the best, which is simply untrue, also many knights when on foot did not use swords, they usually used poleaxes, since they were much more effective against armour. When I see them fight it puts a smile on my face. |
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| I've always been drawn to swords, particularly katanas, broadswords, and scimitars. Though I'm also fond of crossbows. I barely know anything about armor, but I have picked up chain-mail before and it seemed pretty cool. So I'll go with that. |
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Dipp-Fish said: dankickyou said: Dipp-Fish said: Dankickyou said: LOL Heavy troops that retain cohesion slaughters light troops by the busload. History is rife with countless examples. Armor doesnt make you slow, it keeps you alive and the increased morale that comes from being well protected allows a warrior to be able to deliver much more shock. In response sir, the heavily armoured opponent becomes complacent and lax in his defense. Making him susceptible to an underhanded strike. While the lightly armoured combatant, his mind remains sharp and precise. --Sun Tzu His mind remains sharp and precise until an armored knight drives a poleaxe into his unarmored skull. The utility of armor in muscle powered combat is an unchallenged FACT. What theatre are you using for this thread or is this all purely hearsay and theory work... I'll agree that in the US civil war poor armours and training lead to the death of thousands. Yet in English history, lightly armoured combatants fared a lot better than armoured ones, the Romans attempt at invading English shores was an example of this. The only way that they actually managed to do so was sheer overwhelming number and the fact that Celtic clans were busy fighting among themselves. What do you mean by the statement, "the US civil war poor armours and training lead to the death of thousands"? |
Dipp-Fish said: dankickyou said: Dipp-Fish said: Dankickyou said: LOL Heavy troops that retain cohesion slaughters light troops by the busload. History is rife with countless examples. Armor doesnt make you slow, it keeps you alive and the increased morale that comes from being well protected allows a warrior to be able to deliver much more shock. In response sir, the heavily armoured opponent becomes complacent and lax in his defense. Making him susceptible to an underhanded strike. While the lightly armoured combatant, his mind remains sharp and precise. --Sun Tzu His mind remains sharp and precise until an armored knight drives a poleaxe into his unarmored skull. The utility of armor in muscle powered combat is an unchallenged FACT. What theatre are you using for this thread or is this all purely hearsay and theory work... I'll agree that in the US civil war poor armours and training lead to the death of thousands. Yet in English history, lightly armoured combatants fared a lot better than armoured ones, the Romans attempt at invading English shores was an example of this. The only way that they actually managed to do so was sheer overwhelming number and the fact that Celtic clans were busy fighting among themselves. What the living fuck are you talking about? Armors in the US Civil war? Are you drunk!? Also lol no. The Romans raped the Britons, Celts, and Picts. The main reason they didnt conquer Northern Britannia and Hybernia is that it wasnt worth it. The utility of armor as an advantage is pre-modern warfare is unchallenged throughout cultures. Your conjecture is rubbish. |
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| The Romans faired very well in their invasion of Britain. Here's a list of battles, notice the casualties and who won. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Medway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mons_Graupius https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menai_Massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Ninth_Legion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Watling_Street (clearly exaggerated) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mons_Graupius https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_invasion_of_Caledonia_208-210 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Conspiracy |
Higurashi said: I barely know anything about armor, but I have picked up chain-mail before and it seemed pretty cool. So I'll go with that. I had to use chain-mail gloves when I was working in a meat factory, though I suspect the rings would have been much thicker for the ones used in warfare. As nice as it feels there would have been far too many advancements in weaponry to counter it, you'd be lucky to find someone who hasn't got anything on them that could split the mail. I'd say the heavy use of skilled lightly armored soldiers in fantasy has much less to do with the effectiveness of smaller protection and much more to do with the fact it's just far more romantic. |
| always thought the halberd was such a cool weapon. Its keeps you at range and is very versatile in how you use it. it just seems like the perfect equilibrium between defense and offense |
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Secondviennese said: I'd say the heavy use of skilled lightly armored soldiers in fantasy has much less to do with the effectiveness of smaller protection and much more to do with the fact it's just far more romantic. This is quite true. The lightly armored dashing heroes cutting through hoards of faceless armored mooks is a tired trope in fiction. Dipp-Fish said: With regards to the US Civil war, i was making a comment in reference to the Cavalry forces and their use of light and mixed plate armours. Though i kinda feel like I'm dragging this off topic, different history accounts lead to different sides of an argument. For instance from my (frankly poor and limited school history education), the Romans fought the English population for many many years and even then our people refused subjugation for some time before the Romans managed to force control over us. Still i personally side with light armour as does my wife. While i recognize your preference for heavy armour, i spent a week at an adventure camp, and tried various armours. I found metal plate heavy and cumbersome, but that could have been purely down to the fact that i was fairly weedy back then. Way off topic, what do you guys feel about the weapons and abilities or the Ancient Spartans, and not the 'Hollywood' version. The US cavalry never had armor as far as I know. Cuirassiers didn't exist in the USA unlike in continental Europe. Resisting occupation doesnt mean that they were superior in battle. It just meant that they were stubborn and knew how to fight on their terms. The Spartans were pretty damn good as far as hoplites go. They weren't invincible by any means and they did have a number of battles in which they lost. Their whole social structure also made it extremely hard to replace losses. The Spartan Army could not afford losing a lot of men at any one time or risk a huge man power sink and rebellion form the helots. Also, there 8000 Greeks at Thermopylae despite how pop culture attempts to take credit from the other Greeks. |
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Dipp-Fish said: With regards to the US Civil war, i was making a comment in reference to the Cavalry forces and their use of light and mixed plate armours. Though i kinda feel like I'm dragging this off topic, different history accounts lead to different sides of an argument. For instance from my (frankly poor and limited school history education), the Romans fought the English population for many many years and even then our people refused subjugation for some time before the Romans managed to force control over us. Still i personally side with light armour as does my wife. While i recognize your preference for heavy armour, i spent a week at an adventure camp, and tried various armours. I found metal plate heavy and cumbersome, but that could have been purely down to the fact that i was fairly weedy back then. Way off topic, what do you guys feel about the weapons and abilities or the Ancient Spartans, and not the 'Hollywood' version. "adventure camp" first of all, romans fought in formations, which was the key to it all. sure 1 vs 1 a briton might overwhelm a legionary, but we are not talking about dueling. Legionaries didnt even really utilize full plate armour.... The biggest strength of a legion was probably the ability to combat typical western european infantry, aka a bunch of guys running around with swords and shields. the legion was a formation in which the whole was greater than the sum of the parts. they could efficiently handle and break typical tactics used by saxons etc |
| Since I'm a kendoka I fell in love with katanas. I like al those samurai weapons, like shinai, bokken and tantos, totally awesome. |
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CommanderJenny said: Club. Thats a clubby club :< |
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| I'd go for the Meteor Hammer. I can see it having both great offence and defence instead of sacrificing one for the other, as well as range if it were long enough. |
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| Katana. /notweeaboo. Might end up buying a few handcrafted ones in the future. |
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A cool pic of a badass Sikh dude with his weapons and armor. India of course being the capital of exotic weapons, means this guy even has shoes with toe blades. That's right, even kicking is deadlier in old India. |
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| Bow and arrow(or a dagger) Leather armor with light steel plating(quite silent, light and it's feels like I'm wearing nothing at all, nothing at all, nothing at all!) My loadout would be something like: a Short Bow LOTS of throwing daggers A stilletto dagger on my right hand and a sword breaker on my left And leather armor with steel plating(alternatively studded) I'm pretty small and nimble so silent weapons suit me pretty well, and for close combat the sword breaker would allow me to literally break my opponent's sword if he made a mistake. But obviously I'd avoid getting into CQC because I'd be at a pretty big disadvantage. |
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Someone mentioned clubs, I think my favorite club would be the Gunstock war club that Native Americans made.  They just look so cool. |
| the Egyptian sickle swords, Arakhs, was badass. And Bolas, because they looked like flying testicles on a leash |
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| The Mongol armor-piercing recurved bow is definitely the most lethal medieval weapon ever created. Along with their skilled horse archery, they wiped out those over-rated European heavy armored knights! The Mayan poison blow-pipe is another efficient invention. It's deadly, simple to make, accurate and good for ambush. |
Plusme said: The Mongol armor-piercing recurved bow is definitely the most lethal medieval weapon ever created. Along with their skilled horse archery, they wiped out those over-rated European heavy armored knights! The Mayan poison blow-pipe is another efficient invention. It's deadly, simple to make, accurate and good for ambush. The Mongol recurve bow could not pierce good quality padded maille or coat-of-plates with regularity. Also, the Mongols do not depend solely on horse archers unlike depicted in pop culture. 1/4 to 1/3 of all Mongol forces were heavily armored Lancers and the synergy of combined arms is one of the reasons for their success. Also, if anything European knights are heavily underrated not overrated. :v |
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| My favourite weapon would have to be a rapier. And I'm referring to original, classical rapiers, not what we refer to as rapiers today. I think this is the most ambiguous definition I could ever give. Today, a rapier in our understanding, is a thin long sword, with unsharpened edges, primarily used for stabbing. This is because of its light weight and thin structure, which makes it inefficient as a chopping/slicing blade. However, if we were to dig deeper into the history of the rapier, we'd find out that such sword was actually any one-handed sword, with a straight blade ranging from thin to medium thickness, as well as sharp and dull edges. A rapier was often of custom craft fitted for the user, his skills and preference. Thus, the rapier was a relatively light, multi-purpose one-handed sword, with a straight blade. You can't get anymore classy-looking and efficient than that. |
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Neane1993 said: Someone mentioned clubs, I think my favorite club would be the Gunstock war club that Native Americans made. They just look so cool. looks like a guitar that said "fuck it i'm gonna be a club" |
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Tsururin said: Katanas are overrated. There are much cooler swords to be had.Katana for sure :3 |
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Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
| European swords too, classic one handed and two handed also rapier is great. |
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| I think the gladius was designed to be a short-range weapon primarily to prevent slashing the guy right next to you in a shield formation. For weapons, I like the one and a half hander (of course) but the zweihänder is a personal favorite of mine. |
| Sword and shield and a smexy cross bow. I used to love Katanas but you see them everywhere now. What happened to a good old fashion long sword or rapier? |
| Halberds and other polearms for the motherfucking win! It's got good reach, good killing power and accessibility. Plus it's yesterday's poor revolutionary's go to weapon. |
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