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| Great review symbv, I agree on many of your statements. I was baffled by Shinji's behavior when he wanted to pull the out lances even when Kaworu told him not to. I'm ok with 3.0 being such a different story, it goes beyond the question "what happened after the creation of the new world", and it's interesting. I understand the tension and that the crew had to change and adapt to new circumstances during the 14 years time-leap, but we only see them as the bitter and single-minded characters they have become (I like Maya little scene, lol). There's no insight on how come they fight against Nerv and the Evas, just empty space. The film highly rely on action scenes instead, which looked great, but it needed more content on the characters. I'll watch it a second time soon. The story is nowhere as hard to handle as the original, though it properly won't provoke near as much debate either. |
| Dayum. Idk I liked this one better than 2.0, even though this movie was kind of confusing. X) |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
| WTF did I just watch.. As a fan of Evangelion since a long time ago, I have to say this movie is the weakest part of Rebuild Saga. it's not that bad but it's far from good either, I did enjoyed this movie, but well, they could do so much better. I hope the fourth would be better |
skudoops said: mikado34 said: I was baffled by Shinji's behavior when he wanted to pull the out lances even when Kaworu told him not to. I wasn't very baffled by his behavior. Initially Kaworu convinced him to pilot the EVA in the first place, showing him the aftermath of his actions and telling him there was a way he could fix everything. I think at that point even though karowu was telling him to stop, he was in such a state of mind he convinced himself that pulling out the spears was the right choice. That's just my thoughts on it. My sentiments exactly. After being told by Kaworu and Fuyutsuki the worst news he could possibly get, he broke down. He was desperate to return to the world he got to know in 1.0 and 2.0/undo his mistakes; he couldn't rationalize further than that at that point. |
| eh...the movie well... it wasn't bad...was it? ok for 1 my first problem with the movie is it just plainly did not feel as good as the other rebuilds or the original series, it just felt like less overall if there was anything actually better about it, it would be the animation the movie's biggest problem is the entire thing is just a set up for whatever the hell 4.0 is gonna be that and well....the writing in this wasn't that good, i mean shinji was an idiot and i was wondering why no one would straight out tell him shit we already know but he doesn't when instead they explain it to us and keep shinji as an idiot also kawrou felt much less than he was in the fucking original anime,also they seriously wasted too much time making it seem like he and shinji had some kind of relationship, which they didn't do well, and ignored what people actually wanted to see, which was the wille and what led to them becoming well wille and how they survived and etc also it would've made more sense to me if kawrou was the one that actually pulls the spears after asuka actually tells shinji that IT'LL CAUSE THE 4TH IMPACT(which she didn't), and then shinji saves the world and his only friend dies and we now have a better plot well somewhat..maybe i get why shinji did it, i just didn't like that he did actually do it. i think having kawrou the only one he trusts betray him and force him to kill him to save everyone would've been better.....and i just realized that i basically wanted it to go like it did in the original anime....well it was better than this this movie had little to no actual development plotwise and character wise, no one really changed, except rei is now reset or w.e and misato is the new gendou and has cool glasses the plot developed into shit happened since the last movie, and shinji and kawrou had a thing there was no mindfuck, or symbolism or too much actual character development or anything really, the movie felt like the world it was in pretty damn shallow and empty anyway basically the movie in a whole was underwhelming and half of it is them basically showing us that shit happened and that shinji knows how to play the piano could've been better |
GallantSaberApr 27, 2013 1:08 AM
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CrescentYozora25 said: 'scuse me.. Is it okay to watch this movie even though I haven't watched any of the evangelion series/ovas?? Thanks :P Nope. It'd be a waste of time trying to make heads or tails out of any of it. |
CrescentYozora25 said: 'scuse me.. Is it okay to watch this movie even though I haven't watched any of the evangelion series/ovas?? Thanks :P no not at all if you want to watch it and get it watch the original anime series than the original anime ending movie then the first 2 rebuild movies then watch this good luck =3 |
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CrescentYozora25 said: 'scuse me.. Is it okay to watch this movie even though I haven't watched any of the evangelion series/ovas?? Thanks :P No + You would want to watch the first two anyways, they're wayyyyyy better. You don't need to watch the original t.v series, though. |
TyrelApr 27, 2013 3:17 AM
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GallantSaber said: Couldn't he/she just watch the 2 rebuild movies? Unless you're taking into account the rumor that the rebuild movies are actually a sequel to the original show.CrescentYozora25 said: 'scuse me.. Is it okay to watch this movie even though I haven't watched any of the evangelion series/ovas?? Thanks :P no not at all if you want to watch it and get it watch the original anime series than the original anime ending movie then the first 2 rebuild movies then watch this good luck =3 |
saxophone15 said: GallantSaber said: Couldn't he/she just watch the 2 rebuild movies? Unless you're taking into account the rumor that the rebuild movies are actually a sequel to the original show.CrescentYozora25 said: 'scuse me.. Is it okay to watch this movie even though I haven't watched any of the evangelion series/ovas?? Thanks :P no not at all if you want to watch it and get it watch the original anime series than the original anime ending movie then the first 2 rebuild movies then watch this good luck =3 Is this really just a rumor still? There's all kinds of evidence that it's a sequel. Especially in this new movie. We're never going to get an official confirmation and he/she should just watch the original show and EoE anyway. |
| He/She can just watch the first two Rebuild movies since thus far it has little to no association as a sequel to the previous 26 episode TV series, Death and Rebirth, and End of Evangelion. That is unless Rebuild 4.0 reveals it to not be the case but that's not for another year, or two, or three. The only relation is the settings that's similar. It is best to just watch the original TV series and original movies though then watch Rebuild. Two choices really. I heard It's plausible that it might be a sequel. But my assumption is simply due to things Kaworu said in 1.11 at the very end of the movie. As if he knew Shinji already, of course we don't even see that in any of the 3 movies so why would Kaworu say that. There might be another line or two in 2.22 but I can't recall but I am just assuming that might be the culprit. Unless some of you folks heard other things. |
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| I always argued that the original is better and it obviously still stands. However, I really liked this movie and how different it was, this will be really great if they explain what happened to all the characters in 4.0, tie in all the loose ends and answer all the questions. But with Evangelion you never really know.. Even I, a fan of NGE for about 7/8 years now, I'm not underwhelmed by this film at all, I'm glad it took a turn like this, I just hope they will answer most of the questions we have in the next film and do it right. |
radle said: I heard It's plausible that it might be a sequel. But my assumption is simply due to things Kaworu said in 1.11 at the very end of the movie. As if he knew Shinji already, of course we don't even see that in any of the 3 movies so why would Kaworu say that. There might be another line or two in 2.22 but I can't recall but I am just assuming that might be the culprit. Unless some of you folks heard other things. It IS a sequel. Kaworu going "This time" everytime he's being vague. The giant Rei head in Eva 3. The red ocean. The giant blood splat on the moon. And Anno's quote of "Evangelion being a story of repeats". And there's more and more and more. There's never going to be an official confirmation. So, if that's what you're waiting for, prepared to be in a state of limbo for forever. I'm not going to stay up this early in the morning to drudge up some more proof. But, I am going to watch 1.11 and 2.22 and then 3.33 tomorrow, so I can come back and make even more arguments of why this is a spit in the face to the fans. And for some reason, people are taking it. |
HATUL300 said: I always argued that the original is better and it obviously still stands. However, I really liked this movie and how different it was, this will be really great if they explain what happened to all the characters in 4.0, tie in all the loose ends and answer all the questions. But with Evangelion you never really know.. Even I, a fan of NGE for about 7/8 years now, I'm not underwhelmed by this film at all, I'm glad it took a turn like this, I just hope they will answer most of the questions we have in the next film and do it right. Same goes for me, I have no idea why is the hate meter that high up. Its not a total train wrecked. Unlike some shit sequel like Eureka seven AO ................ |
| Sword in hand, a warrior clutches stone to breast. In sword etched he his fading memories In stone, his tempered skill By sword attested, by stone revealed. Their tale can now be told |
| when i first saw it i wasnt too keen, but upon considerable thought, id have to say EOE was equal first for the best eva movie (tied with 2.22) It just has so much going for it, if i had to pick any 1 anime to represent the medium as a work of art, EOE would be top 3 easily. the MP eva battle, the awakening of 01, the literal apocalypse, the komm susser todd part. and the giant rei becoming a god. some of those parts actually give me the chills. if it wasnt a literal collectors item i would have bought it already. |
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| I'm pretty sure that what Asuka and Mari battle in space, and shortly after what the Wunder battles at sea, aren't Angels, but rather automated attack drones that can somehow project AT Fields. The fact that they're already designated "Mk IV A/B" and "Nemesis series", aside from sounding like weapon designations, implies that they've been encountered before, plus if you actually look at them they look mechanical and man-made. Plus I'm pretty sure the MkIV that is encountered in space has the IPEA logo on it. Edit: Nevermind it says "Eva-4" on it. |
fdsfgsApr 27, 2013 4:53 AM
| Yeah, I thought Mk 4 standed for mark 4. Anyhow when Eva 13 appears Misato says something like the 12th angel has already been taken care of. |
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ddxing said: Indeed, it does say Eva-4, however in the movie it also says that BloodType ~Blue has been recognised. I thought only angels had BloodType ~Blue? Also when the first eva-4 flies in space it screams the same angels do, and if you notice no evas have ever screamed that way. They could be angel-infected evas or something of the sort. Let's hope this is explained in movie 4. Good point, right now I'm thinking they're artificial Angels, perhaps created via the Key of Nebuchadnezzar. Of course, there's nothing solid either way but Zeruel was the 10th, the 12th and 13th appeared during climax, and what was encountered between them cannot all be the 11th Angel. By the way did anyone else catch all the MP Mark 06s in the preview for Final? I wonder how Gendo could have created so many Evas? Oh wait. Good thing Third Impact seems to have turned most of Tokyo-3 into these giant Eva-esque things. |
fdsfgs said: Eva series had all spears of Longinus, so 4 more why not? And by the way, if you say Rebuild is a sequel, can you explain a few things for me? Namely how there are now 4 Adams and 4 Lances of Longinus; how Lilith's Spear of Cassius (what Kaworu threw at Eva-01 at the end of 2.22) is not destroyed when it was in the original series; and how the giant hole in Japan caused by the Red Earth Purification Ceremony in End of Evangelion is not there anymore. 4 adams: the tiny stuff in the suitcase brought by Kaiji was called Adam , so it could have served as a base for the 4 Adams. From what I remember the giant hole is caused by the geofront/Lilith egg being extracted, so for whatever reason it returned to its original place. I'm not aware of any spear of Cassius in the original series, where is it mentioned? Also one other hint in Jo is a drawing of an Eva series on the ground (at the beginning). Do you have an explanation for that? I'm not saying I don't believe in the alternative setting route, just that it's kind of hard to decide. As to the screen with many red evas, I think it could have happened after the near-3rd impact and during the 14 years of war. |
EratiKApr 27, 2013 7:34 AM
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fdsfgs said: Good point, right now I'm thinking they're artificial Angels, perhaps created via the Key of Nebuchadnezzar. Of course, there's nothing solid either way but Zeruel was the 10th, the 12th and 13th appeared during climax, and what was encountered between them cannot all be the 11th Angel. By the way did anyone else catch all the MP Mark 06s in the preview for Final? I wonder how Gendo could have created so many Evas? Oh wait. Good thing Third Impact seems to have turned most of Tokyo-3 into these giant Eva-esque things. Ah I forgot to mention that the 4 'things' also produced red blood when they were killed, again implying they must have had some connection to angels. In the first screenshot make sure you don't miss the Eva itself! It seems it's half Eva-02, half Mari's Eva. Although, I doubt that is a scene from the actual 4th movie. Those red evas seem to be the same ones Kaworu talks about before the boys enter Central Dogma. He calls them 'those who failed to become infinity'. ~Edit I have been thinking about that structure that came out of the ground, be it the Central Dogma or whatever it actually is. Doesn't that kinda look like the holy grail? |
ddxingApr 27, 2013 5:48 AM
| What the hell I just watched? Why Misato & gang founded their own group? Did they discover what Gendo was really doing? Why there is GNR head in old Nerv command center? Why nobody explains anything? I wonder what people were saying after watching EoE just after it came out... Maybe there was same kind of confusion... I guess this is excepted. After all this is Evangelion. |
| This was a trainwreck. From a person who hasn't watched T.V Series (Which I shouldn't have to), I'm completely dumbfounded on wtf happened. Why did Misato make a separate group and go against NERV? What is Shinji's dad trying to accomplish? It feels like he's trying to revive his dead wife or some shit.. Ugh so many more questions. It better explain it in EVA 4.0; otherwise, this movie was just one whole build up. 7/10. Expected much more. |
TyrelApr 27, 2013 8:17 AM
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Tyrel said: This was a trainwreck. From a person who hasn't watched T.V Series (Which I shouldn't have to), I'm completely dumbfounded on wtf handed. What is Shinji dad trying to accomplish? It feels like he's trying to revive his dead wife or some shot.. In that respect, it will be more clear in NGE/EoE |
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orangpelupa said: Does the director wants the viewer to feels like Shinji? Confused, confused, confused, uncertain, confused.... That's how I saw it. |
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| 7/10 - Half of it was boring as hell, and the other half was very intriguing and entertaining. However, every character was extremely frustrating to watch. I'm surprised Shinji didn't just go on a killing spree, destroying everything in his path. That would've been more entertaining. |
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xtremexx said: i think shinji needs to realise that when someone says "something isnt right" or "stop shinji" or "No Shinji Dont Pull Those Spears" then maybe you shouldnt pull the fucking spears This bugged the shit out of me, after all that development of Shinji deciding to trust Kaworu and then he just conveniently ignores what Kaworu is saying. Also Shinji and 01 are now in space, for some reason when they were clearly on the surface at the end of 2.0. (never explained, it could be in 4.0 but I see little reason why they would want an explanation to wait until then) Also that "curse of Eva" to keep all the pilots the same age is totally bullshit. The real reason is merchandising. |
Dizzee said: My reaction to this movie XD |
| My only complaint was that isn't wasn't confusing enough. How growing up has made me forget. Really enjoyed it overall though! Enjoyment - 9/10 |
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JOHJ said: Also Shinji and 01 are now in space, for some reason when they were clearly on the surface at the end of 2.0. (never explained, it could be in 4.0 but I see little reason why they would want an explanation to wait until then) 14 years have passed, lol, a lot could've happened. |
| Regarding the curse of Eva thing, I'm speculating that they don't age due to being contaminated from the Angels. Remember that the Angels ate from the Fruit of Life meaning that they're immortal. Since all the pilots have been contaminated by Angels, they're don't age due to their body having incorporated parts of the Angel's immortality. This is further reinforced by the fact that at the end, Asuka refers to humanity as Lilin as if she was not human and instead something else changed by fighting the Angels. |
neutralizerApr 27, 2013 3:55 PM
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AzureAlert said: 7/10 - Half of it was boring as hell, and the other half was very intriguing and entertaining. However, every character was extremely frustrating to watch. I'm surprised Shinji didn't just go on a killing spree, destroying everything in his path. That would've been more entertaining. Same here, the first 40 minutes was unwatchable, very very bad CG (that's clearly seen in a bonus documentary about making 3.0 - here and here) and every character looks constipated or something, definetely lacking "real" feeling that every character had in original series. The other part, hovewer, gives some puzzles and generally feels like EVA-title should feels. About pulling the Lances, I'd do the same just to see them constipated faces butthurt. Killing spree is also a nice idea, but it seems Anno realize that EVA is not TTGL. 6/10 |
viesiu said: JOHJ said: Also Shinji and 01 are now in space, for some reason when they were clearly on the surface at the end of 2.0. (never explained, it could be in 4.0 but I see little reason why they would want an explanation to wait until then) 14 years have passed, lol, a lot could've happened. Certainly true, but they could have, you know, took 3 seconds to mention it. |
Megaton said: orangpelupa said: Does the director wants the viewer to feels like Shinji? Confused, confused, confused, uncertain, confused.... That's how I saw it. I as well. I think they did a job in making you feel Shinji's frustration. |
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| hmmm for something that took so long to plan and produce since the end of 2.0 this was complete and uber rubbish. if this was released, say, the year or two years after 2.0, like it was supposed to, sure, this could've been very acceptable. good even. however, keeping in mind all the delays (which were present from 1.0 to 2.0 as well) i would've expected something 2.0 quality. hell, i would've expected 1.0 quality, and still be happy. but there was just so much time wasted. and not even that, it felt rather short. like they really took years to come up with all these ideas. or maybe they overdeveloped and ended up scrapping a lot of stuff. either way, they could've done better, and that is what bothers me the most. my only hope is that all that time wasted in between the delays was actually spent working on the final movie, since they have practically said it was supposed to release soon shortafter 3.0. and hopefully it's not delayed, cause, really, it's just like they're riding on the popularity of 2.0 alone. as if they could savour the success of that for as long as they wanted. it really just backfired on them after producing something so sloppy. the two fights were rather good, and seeing asuka and mari again was definitely a triple plus. had they taken out a lot of crybaby shinji(oh what a let down after seeing shinji accept the world and become more manly) who we already knew existed, and already knew how he behaved (really, no need for reiteration. i believe they just fucked up and didn't know what else to put instead.)they should've put in more you know. what happened in 14 years, more mari, more asuka. hell, if they had swapped crybaby shinji with smooth kaworu, i'dve been happy as well. at least we know asuka is not 100% shinji hate, and still has a soft dere spot. and mari is as awfully crazy as she should be. 20/10 for next movie for combo of mari and asuka eva alone. a barely 8/10 without considering it took, what, 3 years and a half, to come up with this. i might just be butthurt from all the wait, but to me it's reasonable to have the right to rant this much just for that reason (and all the delays).... praying to god it doesn't take 4 years (considering the increasing wait time between movies) for final to come out. i'd see original death threats at gainax's house. /rant |
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MEsoJD said: Megaton said: orangpelupa said: Does the director wants the viewer to feels like Shinji? Confused, confused, confused, uncertain, confused.... That's how I saw it. I as well. I think they did a job in making you feel Shinji's frustration. It sure did a good job of it. Watching this before going to sleep and having a dream where I felt just like Shinji - isolated, confused, disliked by everyone - was a weird experience. Edit: By the way, confirmed for being Evangelion Mark 04. |
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