Desolatte said: I feel bad for some crustaceans. Imagine people ripping YOUR limbs off or broiling YOU alive... Yeah, almost makes me feel guilty when I eat lobster/crab. |
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Desolatte said: I feel bad for some crustaceans. Imagine people ripping YOUR limbs off or broiling YOU alive... I'm too busy enjoying my seafood to give a damn. |
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Desolatte said: I feel bad for some crustaceans. Imagine people ripping YOUR limbs off or broiling YOU alive... Yes, and we let fish gasp for air before they die so we can skin them, gut them, and grill them. We eat meat. Our bodies were made to consume meat. We would not eat meat if we didn't. |
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Splitter said: o rly?We would not eat meat if we didn't. |
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katsucats said: Splitter said: o rly?We would not eat meat if we didn't. Need meat to support brain growth. |
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BloodRequiem said: katsucats said: Splitter said: o rly?We would not eat meat if we didn't. Need meat to support brain growth. Does it also support evolution? |
BloodRequiem said: But would we not if we didn't?katsucats said: Need meat to support brain growth.Splitter said: o rly?We would not eat meat if we didn't. |
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katsucats said: BloodRequiem said: But would we not if we didn't?katsucats said: Need meat to support brain growth.Splitter said: o rly?We would not eat meat if we didn't. Do you see deer eating rabbits? |
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dankickyou said: But they are also very tasty. ^This. /thread As for the rest of you tree huggers....just don't eat it lobsters and crabs, Ok? |
dankickyou said: ycart59 said: I'm so glad no one posted this yet. Oh god I'm choking |
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Splitter said: I wouldn't if I didn't.katsucats said: Do you see deer eating rabbits?BloodRequiem said: But would we not if we didn't?katsucats said: Need meat to support brain growth.Splitter said: o rly?We would not eat meat if we didn't. |
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Splitter said: katsucats said: BloodRequiem said: But would we not if we didn't?katsucats said: Need meat to support brain growth.Splitter said: o rly?We would not eat meat if we didn't. Do you see deer eating rabbits? Do you see deer doing anything but being docile animals that stare at oncoming cars waiting to be ran over? Also plants feel pain. And I happen to like my murder and suffering with some side orders. |
shintai88 said: Of course they are going to feel pain, But still won't stop me eating them, its would be a wasted life if I don't eat it. Still gonna eat them, an interesting point by many industries around the world is that they are no longer keeping animals, they are producing FOOD, I kinda agree to this point of view |
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Slyr3do0n said: JennyEsquire said: Slyr3do0n said: Thinking that humans are above other animals and that one life is more important than another is ignorant and wrong. No it's not. Am I ''ignorant and wrong'' because I value this life Over this one? No it just means I'm like every other sane person. You're an idiot You are wrong. That chicken was cute as fuck, the baby I could do without. Most illogical and even worse by morality which you seem to like shoving down peoples throats. |
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Immahnoob said: Slyr3do0n said: JennyEsquire said: Slyr3do0n said: Thinking that humans are above other animals and that one life is more important than another is ignorant and wrong. No it's not. Am I ''ignorant and wrong'' because I value this life Over this one? No it just means I'm like every other sane person. You're an idiot You are wrong. That chicken was cute as fuck, the baby I could do without. Most illogical and even worse by morality which you seem to like shoving down peoples throats. I think there is some logical fallacy here in the matter of boiling them alive. People saying "fuck it want to eat meat and shit" are losing the point. There is a difference between eating an animal and killing it in a very painful way when you know it can feel every much as you. So no, not eating a lobster but frying it alive isn't the same thing. And the same goes with the chicken and all this shit. You like eating chicken? Fine, eat your chicken but why can't you just at least give the poor motherfucker an easy not torturous death? If we were dominated by some other species that had the idea of us as delicacies and ate us we would inevitably have to live with our gleam fate but will at least pray to be killed without suffering hell. People here talk like it's between eating meat and fish etc and being over-sympathetic and not eating but that's not really the issue considering the subject. The actual point is caring to kill it easily or not. It looks to me like some who like saying "i don't give a shit" redirected the matter in a more convenient way for them. |
MonadJan 23, 2013 10:50 AM
Splitter said: katsucats said: BloodRequiem said: But would we not if we didn't?katsucats said: Need meat to support brain growth.Splitter said: o rly?We would not eat meat if we didn't. Do you see deer eating rabbits? Carnivorous deer exist http://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/hunting/2009/10/carnivorous-deer http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/08/0825_030825_carnivorousdeer.html |
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| I'm sorry, but lobsters die instantly when put in boiling water. They go into shock, then die seconds later especially if you put it heads down. Do you really think that in slaughter houses they kill chickens/pigs/etc in "human ways"? Or wait, this is still double standard. If you want to stop killing animals, stop killing them completely or be a hypocrite. |
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| Isn't this kind of obvious? Naturally anything going into boiling water alive with the nervous system to feel it, is going to feel pain, it clearly just isn't an issue with the Chefs or people who eat it. I don't eat any seafood and very little meat, not because I'm trying to be a vegetarian or something silly, but rather because most things don't appeal to me. That said, I don't see how anyone can object to killing animals in a quicker fashion. Just because the wild is brutal, doesn't mean we need to continue it. It's incredibly broken logic which would justify practically everything we consider morally wrong, and thus make illegal. Hoppy said: Who cares, we aren't talking about your dog, cat, horse, or whatever most people have as pets, this is a lobster, it's meant to be eaten Why are Dogs, Cats and Horses deserving of special treatment? They're "meant to be eaten" just as much as lobster, or you and me are. |
TrapaliciousJan 23, 2013 11:24 AM
Trapalicious said: Why are Dogs, Cats and Horses deserving of special treatment? They're "meant to be eaten" just as much as lobster, or you and me are. Well according to a very obscure Soviet animated movie, Dogs are the first friend, horses are the first servant and cats are the first masters. |
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Trapalicious said: Hoppy said: Who cares, we aren't talking about your dog, cat, horse, or whatever most people have as pets, this is a lobster, it's meant to be eaten Why are Dogs, Cats and Horses deserving of special treatment? They're "meant to be eaten" just as much as lobster, or you and me are. And a very good point has been made by Trapalicious. |
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Monad said: I think there is some logical fallacy here in the matter of boiling them alive. People saying "fuck it want to eat meat and shit" are losing the point. There is a difference between eating an animal and killing it in a very painful way when you know it can feel every much as you. So no, not eating a lobster but frying it alive isn't the same thing. And the same goes with the chicken and all this shit. You like eating chicken? Fine, eat your chicken but why can't you just at least give the poor motherfucker an easy not torturous death? If we were dominated by some other species that had the idea of us as delicacies and ate us we would inevitably have to live with our gleam fate but will at least pray to be killed without suffering hell. People here talk like it's between eating meat and fish etc and being over-sympathetic and not eating but that's not really the issue considering the subject. The actual point is caring to kill it easily or not. It looks to me like some who like saying "i don't give a shit" redirected the matter in a more convenient way for them. Son, we are the apex predators of this planet. This is nature. What do you say to the lobster living in the ocean that finds a clam, pries open the poor chap that is fighting for its life, and devours its living insides? I'd also like to add (having studied a lot of physiology in my lifetime) that pain is a very general and non-descriptive scientific term. I can't even find the shady ass plebian article the OP posted. I'd like to read the actual literature before anything. But anyways, like i said, "pain" greatly varies in both classification terms and integrated terms, meaning that the more advanced the organism, the more levels of pain there is and how it interacts with the rest of physiological functions, aka SUFFERING. Also, if some advanced species appeared and started to dominate us, it would be up to us to survive. This means that we would have to fight for it. Lobsters were not able to achieve supremacy. Look at what vegetarians do to plants - you cut that shit up alive dayum!!!! |
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MellowJello said: I'd insert a hilarious gif but I suspect current events being better than that. dankickyou said: ycart59 said: I'm so glad no one posted this yet. By all means, go right ahead. |
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MellowJello said: I'd insert a hilarious gif but I suspect current events being better than that. it's not lol |
Itami-chan said: The opportunity is already lost ):MellowJello said: I'd insert a hilarious gif but I suspect current events being better than that. dankickyou said: ycart59 said: I'm so glad no one posted this yet. By all means, go right ahead. |
MellowJello said: Itami-chan said: The opportunity is already lost ):MellowJello said: I'd insert a hilarious gif but I suspect current events being better than that. dankickyou said: ycart59 said: I'm so glad no one posted this yet. By all means, go right ahead. I am particularly proud of that one. |
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Monad said: Why do people keep using this word "fallacy" when they have no idea what it means?I think there is some logical fallacy here in the matter of boiling them alive. Monad said: Yeah, there is. You do one before the other.People saying "fuck it want to eat meat and shit" are losing the point. There is a difference between eating an animal and killing it in a very painful way when you know it can feel every much as you. Monad said: Ever had teppenyaki?So no, not eating a lobster but frying it alive isn't the same thing. And the same goes with the chicken and all this shit. You like eating chicken? Fine, eat your chicken but why can't you just at least give the poor motherfucker an easy not torturous death? Monad said: It will happen when it happens.If we were dominated by some other species that had the idea of us as delicacies and ate us we would inevitably have to live with our gleam fate but will at least pray to be killed without suffering hell. Monad said: Everything we do and say is for convenience.People here talk like it's between eating meat and fish etc and being over-sympathetic and not eating but that's not really the issue considering the subject. The actual point is caring to kill it easily or not. It looks to me like some who like saying "i don't give a shit" redirected the matter in a more convenient way for them. |
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katsucats said: Monad said: Why do people keep using this word "fallacy" when they have no idea what it means?I think there is some logical fallacy here in the matter of boiling them alive. Monad said: Yeah, there is. You do one before the other.People saying "fuck it want to eat meat and shit" are losing the point. There is a difference between eating an animal and killing it in a very painful way when you know it can feel every much as you. Monad said: Ever had teppenyaki?So no, not eating a lobster but frying it alive isn't the same thing. And the same goes with the chicken and all this shit. You like eating chicken? Fine, eat your chicken but why can't you just at least give the poor motherfucker an easy not torturous death? Monad said: It will happen when it happens.If we were dominated by some other species that had the idea of us as delicacies and ate us we would inevitably have to live with our gleam fate but will at least pray to be killed without suffering hell. Monad said: Everything we do and say is for convenience.People here talk like it's between eating meat and fish etc and being over-sympathetic and not eating but that's not really the issue considering the subject. The actual point is caring to kill it easily or not. It looks to me like some who like saying "i don't give a shit" redirected the matter in a more convenient way for them. Such rich arguments you got there like "it will happen when it happens" and stuff, lol. And no "fallacy" isn't wrongly used ether. Btw are people incapable of making a full answer to anything in this site and they always have to split everything to quotes so they can cut them how they like and be all smart asses? |
Monad said: Thank you.Such rich arguments you got there like "it will happen when it happens" and stuff, lol. Monad said: In what way does the argument not follow its premises?And no "fallacy" isn't wrongly used ether. Monad said: Are they?Btw are people incapable of making a full answer to anything in this site Monad said: And...?and Monad said: Straw man. Who are "they" that always does this? Have statistics?they always have to split everything to Monad said: Mmhmm... go on...quotes so they can cut them how they like Monad said: No. It's called organization.and be all smart asses? |
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katsucats said: Monad said: Thank you.Such rich arguments you got there like "it will happen when it happens" and stuff, lol. Monad said: In what way does the argument not follow its premises?And no "fallacy" isn't wrongly used ether. Monad said: Are they?Btw are people incapable of making a full answer to anything in this site Monad said: And...?and Monad said: Straw man. Who are "they" that always does this? Have statistics?they always have to split everything to Monad said: Mmhmm... go on...quotes so they can cut them how they like Monad said: No. It's called organization.and be all smart asses? As i said, smart ass. Nothing more. |
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m_c093 said: The sounds of their screams help me fall sleep. That's a myth actually... The sound you hear when you boil them is the air getting out from under their shells. Those are not screams, cries, etc. And Monad, you didn't respond to my post. |
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dankickyou said: Trapalicious said: Why are Dogs, Cats and Horses deserving of special treatment? They're "meant to be eaten" just as much as lobster, or you and me are. Well according to a very obscure Soviet animated movie, Dogs are the first friend, horses are the first servant and cats are the first masters. True to that I love lobsters as a food. |
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MrBattosai said: My family owns a sushi bar...This is a everyday occurrence, but the lobster does make a squealing sound. The squealing sound is air escaping from their shells, not screaming of any kind. Still fucked up in my opinion though. It's not as bad as anything that goes on in the meat or dairy industries though. |
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