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| I liked the history significantly more for the mention of the chimpanzees. When I first heard of the way they worked I was amazed, who knew it could be applied in an anime series so well. And also, in such a disturbing way! Since mentioning the primates and then seeing these queerats again made me uneasy. I also have my doubts about the villagers being the scientists, and not like say, the enslaved of before or something else. Just the way they desired to keep the knowledge hidden didn't feel at all like what I would have imagined they would do. |
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deave112 said: For those who had read the novel, how far do you think we are from the time skip? One episode? Two episodes? More than that? Use the fucking spoiler thread. |
Nidhoeggr said: I actually have a feeling that most MAL users are too retarded to understand a) what an exposition is b) how a story is composed c) what world-building is d) how they can perceive something that isn't handed to them on a silver plate. Seriously, if you are too dumb to get this then I suggest you go right back in your shitty battle Shounen subforum and scream how SUGOI Zetsuen No Tempest, K, Code Breaker, Little Busters and all the other crap is. This, along with Jinrui, is one of the rare good examples of mature storytelling we got from the Japanese animation industry in the past year. Are you that impatient? Are you that deluded from the over-exposure of style-over-substance material? Sit back and try to think for once, you degenerated individuals. This episode was excellent and I think we might have - along with Jojo - one of the contenders for the best anime of the season right here. Character development as well as the explanation of the past millenium was handled in an amazing way. I totally agree with you. There are some people that don't really know how to appreciate a insightful or though-provoking anime, such as Shinsekai Yori. This series just keep getting better by the minute. However, I don't think other series, such as Little Busters or Zetsuen no Tempest, need to be criticize. Those are another genre....and the pacing and plot differ greatly from Shinsekai Yori. I still believe Shinsekai Yori is the best anime of the season...or even of the year - in my opinion. |
| "We should be more proud of NEETs! Love the country that strives to produce NEETs, for world peace, we must stand up! We must find more non NEET-in-waiting elites, learn from each other , form a new Japanese Party, and bravely challenge the evil! Grow, NEETs! Grow like blazing fire! NEETs!” |
| This week japan brought 2 Bombastic EPISODES, e 1 from Jojo and 1 from shinsekai. Now i can go sleep happy. |
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| Oh My God. This was the episode that had the explanations. This anime is awesome. First 3 made me think but now I have a better understanding . |
| I'm starting to love this... |
fiore777 said: It could be that their ancestors are scientists, but only a fraction of the current generation elders (or even none of them) understand the techniques more than set of tradition, rituals and taboos.I also have my doubts about the villagers being the scientists, and not like say, the enslaved of before or something else. Just the way they desired to keep the knowledge hidden didn't feel at all like what I would have imagined they would do. It's not like we don't have those kind of things these days. Taboos made by our predecessors to enforce a correct behaviour, but most peoples only know them as strict "don't do" for no good reason. Does Satoru show interest to Saki up to this episode ? Up until now I only managed to notice the flags between Shun and Saki but seems like other viewers believed he had a crush on Saki. |
deave112 said: For those who had read the novel, how far do you think we are from the time skip? One episode? Two episodes? More than that? Well, it depends on how the anime does with the pacing, right? |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
kaykenner54 said: Also I notice in the next episode preview that we are getting a time skip, but they still appear to be stuck in the forest. Where did you get the idea that there is a time skip in the next episode? Aversa said: To have a past that reduced are current population to 2% that's just scary no matter from what point you view it, it doesn't mean it was just a war it means it was a total massacre. THE FACT is the current population in Japan in the anime is not EVEN 2% of the population in Japan now! In the anime (or the novel), the whole Japan has only 50-60k people. Compared to the population of Japan now, at around 120 million, we are talking about population drop to only 0.04% of population!!! So the Dark Ages and the subsequent hardship of survival further cut down the population, which may explain why much of the science was not kept or developed -- at the end the most important consideration is how to ensure a semblance of peaceful existence among a bunch of humans all with powerful force resident in them. Note: the information I mentioned above is public information, which you can find in the official anime site: http://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/shinsekaiyori/library/book01.html , so I don't think it needs to be put in spoiler tag. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| OH MY GOD. Such a good episode, I absolutely loved it.. Holy, shit has seriously just hit the fan. Really. I mean that episode had so much suspense right from the get go. I cannot wait for the next episode, this week was really great. |
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symbv said: kaykenner54 said: Also I notice in the next episode preview that we are getting a time skip, but they still appear to be stuck in the forest. Where did you get the idea that there is a time skip in the next episode? . I guess from the preview of the next episode but I guess I was wrong. |
| Probably the most interesting episode so far. So much info about the past... So, it seems we are dealing with a conspiracy, since that monk considered all of that info as lies. |
Nidhoeggr said: I actually have a feeling that most MAL users are too retarded to understand a) what an exposition is b) how a story is composed c) what world-building is d) how they can perceive something that isn't handed to them on a silver plate. you've only noticed now? they're spreading like a disease, and majority of new users are the same and most of all, they talk like wannabee elites of criticism and perfect preferences ^^, oh, and they submit reviews too after only watching an episode or two |
| Simplistic beauty can't be appreciated by someone who looks for something grand in everything he watch. |
| This anime is just fucking weird, lol. Its decent so far, but its still just building the story and characters. Finally got a little back story on the civilization, can't wait for the main plot to really get rolling. Seems like next episode may really start things up. |
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KingYoshi said: This anime is just fucking weird, lol. Its decent so far, but its still just building the story and characters It sounds like you have an allergy against world-building and good story-telling. |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| Holy shit! Such an awesome episode! So the suspicions about the rats being the normal humans turns out to be true. |
| Glad I am watching this; its really fantastic. 5/5 |
Vortiene said: Nidhoeggr said: I actually have a feeling that most MAL users are too retarded to understand a) what an exposition is b) how a story is composed c) what world-building is d) how they can perceive something that isn't handed to them on a silver plate. Seriously, if you are too dumb to get this then I suggest you go right back in your shitty battle Shounen subforum and scream how SUGOI Zetsuen No Tempest, K, Code Breaker, Little Busters and all the other crap is. It's not very nice to judge Little Busters before it even gets going o_O , but I understand what you are getting at. From my perspective Shinsekai is way ahead of LB in the current state, and probably will remain that way, but doesn't mean Little Busters is gonna be utter crap (okay the animation, yeah, but the crapness of the story is yet to be seen, since it hasn't really gotten going completely yet) But Little Busters' story is already laid down; by the visual novel. Perhaps Nidhoeggr has read it? You can't know that they haven't. |
| Things are getting more interesting now that they know about the truth about PK |
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| If we want to compare Little Buster and Shinsekai yori it is best to focus how well they adapt the material and how well it balances the demand from the fans of the original novels with those who have not read the source material. And it has to be noted that the VN with its multiple routes may be a harder challenge to adapt to anime. And then we should compare the technical merits of the series -- how good is the sakuga, animation, character design, sound/music, seiyuu performance etc. One thing that we should bear in mind is that comparing how good the story of the original novel is not the fairest way to judge the effort of the anime studio. That said, I think Nidhoeggr should not need to call anime like Zetsuen No Tempest, K, Code Breaker, Little Busters as crap to elevate this anime. Personally I enjoy all those 4 anime mentioned to varying degree and they all offer something that is entertaining to me that Shinsekai yori cannot provide, as much as I think Shinekai yori is an awesome anime (and it got me into reading the novel too). |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| The children wondered which of the 4 civilizations they descended from and concluded (hoped) it was from the technological society, but the way the monk kills the minoshiro, and how they're treated as demons who speak the world of the devil would seem to suggest otherwise |
| Wow, people seriously discussing the genres here now? wtf, everyone has their own opinion and if they rather like stuff like SAO, K and other stuff like that just leave it be. I'm glad we're getting an anime like this because it seems like lately there hasn't been anything ''deep'' and really interesting storywise. People that dropped it at the first episode should've kept watching at least to this episode because if you still don't like it then you should probably drop it. With 25 episode in total I think this could turn out even better than I expected, I'm really watching forward to the next episode. |
idk why I was here but I'm prob back to playing Hunt: Showdown 1896 again when you read this |
| Wow, here an an anime that proves that the 3 episode test is not enough. That episode explained most of the questions I had about what was going on and now I have even more questions about the past and what is going on in their society. Just what they are leading to I have no idea but this is definitely on my must watch list. Also 7.53 rating for this anime atm...lol. |
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| Dude, dude dude .... DUDE, dude, dude, dude DUDE!!!!! Yeah, this is definitely the best anime of the season for me so far. |
 What "Adolescence" do you have? Do you remember "Childhood"? The irreplaceable one existed there. |
| Fantastic episode! Great reveals and more questions.... those kids are certainly in for something... |
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| woah, crazy episode! i'm glad a lot of backstory was provided, but that's seriously a lot to take in! i'm not sure i've got it all down, but is there any deduction from episode 4 alone which of the 4 groups the main cast descended from? scientists? as well, since they're so isolated from their own history (not even knowing that humans can kill other humans), does this mean their descended group has conquered globally to control the dissemination of history? obviously they archive it in cute minoshiros but since they were in a place that was restricted, it's clearly not meant to be accessed by the general public. i'm really enjoying this anime :) lots of thought provoking stuff and good production value to boot! ^o^ |
| Accessing Zion Archive Historical File #12-1: The Second Renaissance...LOL This feels so much like that Animatrix episode. Woah talk about information overload! Among the episodes in any long series, the ones providing background information are the episodes I really like, this is no exception. I loved it despite the gritty and dark history it presented and even thought the record were incomplete, it's enough to give us a glimpse and a glimmer of understanding of where our character's present and future may be concerned. From the records, it seems the Emperor of Delight did not stop sacrificing at the first 100 to stop clapping in his coronation, the applause lasted for 3 days and 3 nights for crying out loud! o_O Their hands must have been bloody already in the early hours of the first day! X_X She didn't answer who the enemy was, but the answer has been clear. As written by Walt Kelly in his comic strip; We have met the enemy and he is us. |
| You see there's no need to wonder where your god is, Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy. |
| Why is this series so beautiful even during a giant massacre of giant rats? Amazing episode. So much info, but after a while i got the main points down and boy...is it bad. The world really changed, but i'm glad to finally know what those intros were in the first three episodes. |
| I am officially annoyed and irritated by the gang, especially Sakii. 1. First, she violently squeeze and threathened the library. 2. Second, she exagerates and try to tell the truth but cant even solve problems at hand. The rest are great. Just so terribly annoyed with Saki and gang. |
| This is interesting. I do like my information. |
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edl01 said: Also were's my Yori I was promised in the title? Seriously from what I see the relationship so far seems to be between a male and a female, false advertising! For your information, yori not the same word than yuri ;) Shin = new Sekai = world yori = from/since |
Tryss said: yori = from/since Can also mean "more than", but in this case, the title is definitely "From the New World", named for Dvořák's Symphony No. 9 "From the New World". |
| I never get tired of the EP! It's just so lovely. |
Shoujo_Q said: but in this case, the title is definitely "From the New World", named for Dvořák's Symphony No. 9 "From the New World". Didn't know about that, but it makes sense, thanks from the information :) |
| This episode was so intense! Can't wait for the new episode. :3 |
memeki said: The show seems to suggest that there's something wrong with her. She saw the monster cat before the first episode, apparently did something or another to the head priest during her coming of age story (not sure based off the flashbacks if she did it as a reaction or if he made her), and is the first of the group to suggest violence and come up with some creative uses of her power against something with human-like intelligence. I just want to repeat that Saki DID NOT do anything to the head priest. He tricked her into believing she hurt him so as to test if her "death feedback" mechanism worked properly. Other characters would have gone through similar test during their coming of age rite too. memeki said: For the Minoshiro, though, was that woman who came out of it at the end just meant to be a sort of security system against PK users or was it an actual person whose personality was grafted onto it somehow? The former. memeki said: The show seems to be implying that the monster rats were people too who scientists altered back in the day, so it wouldn't be too big of a stretch. Actually I don't think the last bit of the episode where an image that looks like a silhouette of a woman in the sandstorm is necessary because it can be confusing to the audience. What actually happened was that the sandstorm somehow looked like a human to the priest, perhaps because he was shown an image of human which caused his "death feedback" system to be triggered just a while ago, and this caused his "death feedback" system to notch up further thus weakening his power even more. That this somehow led to so many audience to think that the queerats were people too is quite unfortunate in my opinion. |
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| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Their PK is based on making mental image into reality. Saki imagined forming sphere when saving the rat, and Mamoru wonderedwhat image the priestuse to float. The reaper could be the easiest image for the priest for a massacre especially with not much time and his strained state. It needs concentration and in this kind of story it's not uncommon that the power can run out of control and caused bad side effect. For Saki, in my opinion... The rats are treated like slaves, dirty and ugly, so it's not weird that the children don't want to have anything to do with them. They're worthless and could be killed with no remorse if they tried to rebel against them. I think the society is not trying to forbid violence to all, just to stop PK user from having PK (player kill) frenzy. Especially because the power seems to know no upper bound (like the Hulk ? ^^; Saki is just being sympathetic to the slave/animal. Minoshiro in the other hand is rare and distant, plus it's being a threat first (to be fair, self defence). |
| This episode is so good that it made me read (actually skimming/scanning) all the replies (currently 200 posts) in this thread (except the ones with really long posts, tl;dr lol) just to see how other's opinion are about it. I'm so glad I didn't drop this anime cause the first 3 eps is kind of "boring" and I was just realized that I did miss (more to: did not aware of the importance of) some clues from the previous eps: the opening scenes (which are flashbacks/historical events), lectures about "Ogres", "Karmic Demon" (I watched HS/CR subs btw), and of course, the missing children. Because the library being burned before explaining the syndroms, "Ogres" and "Karmic Demons" are still mysterious. IMO, the story will revolve around these mysteries. And, just a wild guessing, the monsters are mutant humans caused by fault experiments in genetic modification to control PK power. Saki's denial of killing the rats might implied it. Also, I agree that there's something different with Saki: how she is the last one of the gang to join them in school, late Power activation/some-kind-of-spirits blessing, and seeing cat(?) monster in the school. This show is promising. And I lol'd at the one who compares this with Jintai. Same post-apocalyptic theme, yes, but I think they are really different: Jintai is more criticizing the society now (our society), while Shin Sekai Yori is about the post-apocalyptic society itself. But, I can't deny that the ones who like Jintai would also like this anime also (and I'm one of them :D) |
Waiting for next week anime gives me another reason to live. |
| I just realized something. During the Bonobo sex explanation they showed scenes of Saki getting intimate with her mother and Maria. Are they implying that Saki already had sex with her mom and Maria? |
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dankickyou said: I just realized something. During the Bonobo sex explanation they showed scenes of Saki getting intimate with her mother and Maria. Are they implying that Saki already had sex with her mom and Maria? More like conduct that would be considered sexual (touching, etc) in our society would be considered normal in their society (since those that created the society realised that these acts reduced aggression). |
Shoujo_Q said: dankickyou said: I just realized something. During the Bonobo sex explanation they showed scenes of Saki getting intimate with her mother and Maria. Are they implying that Saki already had sex with her mom and Maria? More like conduct that would be considered sexual (touching, etc) in our society would be considered normal in their society (since those that created the society realised that these acts reduced aggression). So heavy petting and incest? Me gusta |
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dankickyou said: Shoujo_Q said: dankickyou said: I just realized something. During the Bonobo sex explanation they showed scenes of Saki getting intimate with her mother and Maria. Are they implying that Saki already had sex with her mom and Maria? More like conduct that would be considered sexual (touching, etc) in our society would be considered normal in their society (since those that created the society realised that these acts reduced aggression). So heavy petting and incest? Me gusta In the novel it is much more explicit - at least the part with Maria. The manga is not too far off the mark on this bit. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
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