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Nov 16, 2012 8:32 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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This was a calm episode imo as we return to school. Maria and Saki sure gets along well! Eh, there were some direct yaoi and yuri themes in this but oh well. The beach scene was fun and refreshing to watch.

Overall, a relaxing episode to watch imo. Seems Shun also has given Saki a new special item. Dem psychic powers.
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Nov 16, 2012 9:24 AM
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That was... WOW.

That opening scene alone... wow.

Really get you into the mood on how this society works and how different it is from ours.

You can say it was a yuri-yaoi heaven XD


(Also, poor Mamoru, he was the only one who was alone. Even in this kind of society there these kind of people... loners).

Anime also shows that Shun is definitely in love with Satoru too. So he's not just in love with Saki.


I'm kind of confused... Is Shun (spoilers for the novel)
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Nov 16, 2012 9:42 AM
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Lots of homo moments in the opening. That little curly guy...someone get him a partner!
 
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Nov 16, 2012 9:49 AM

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dafuk yuri and yaoi scene ?
anime dropped~
 
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Nov 16, 2012 10:33 AM
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By the way, the animation was really, REALLY BAD in this episode :/


I also really disliked Shun in this episode. He was so cold and mean toward Saki and later even toward Satoru :/
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Nov 16, 2012 10:48 AM
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What, did I miss something? I couldn't follow at all and when I turned the comments on all the others were also posting the same things so... What!?
I mean why are the only couples boy-boy or girl-girl and not one couple boy-girl?
But I really can't wait until the next episode! I need to buy the novel----
 
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Nov 16, 2012 10:54 AM
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Goodbye Shun.

It was fun while it lasted and you were a really nice guy. But now it's time for Saki x Satoru to shine!
 
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Nov 16, 2012 10:56 AM
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edeswen said:
dafuk yuri and yaoi scene ?
anime dropped~


Why are you dropping it now when you were informed that such things happened in the society of this anime 4 episodes ago? Shouldn't you have dropped it back then?

By the way you seem a bit too conservative.
 
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Nov 16, 2012 11:21 AM

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Sure opens up a lots of questions what happened in between the last episode and this episode besides knowing there was a time skip. This episode has me asking a lot of questions. Tough to make any conclusions right now.
 
Nov 16, 2012 11:33 AM

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this is when the fandom is ruined forever and people remember this anime as "the anime that was only good for the yaoi"
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Nov 16, 2012 11:51 AM

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eeeeep Yaoi scene. So creepy. I didn't expect this...


 
Nov 16, 2012 12:08 PM

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Best episode yet, my otp ftw!


Hot.

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Nov 16, 2012 12:22 PM

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edeswen said:
dafuk yuri and yaoi scene ?
anime dropped~


LoL, I was thinking the same thing. Still, wont drop it for now though.

And yea, Mamoru looked so lonely, just sad.
 
Nov 16, 2012 3:26 PM

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walk said:
this is when the fandom is ruined forever and people remember this anime as "the anime that was only good for the yaoi"


Nah. Im a die hard yaoi fan and yet I praise this anime not just for introducing yaoi and yuri (YAY, GENDER EQUALITY IN ANIME, ISNT THAT WONDERFUL?*.* I can die happy now ) but mostly for the intriguing plot and for the mindfuck because I took a long time reflecting trying to understand what the hell was going on.

27CansOfTuna said:
Best episode yet, my otp ftw!

Hot.


+1 *A*

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Nov 16, 2012 3:45 PM

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The age of 14, we call it hormone rush ^^;
The narrator really is not kidding when saying lots of things changed. When 12 year old the kids (not just Saki's group) seems to just do it occassionally. Now they got both sexual drive and stress relief stacking on one another.

The opening is not exactly disturbing though. Kind of overdone, it became more of a lolz moment rather than repulsive.
Sucks to be Mamoru though

BTW, just me or Shun's dog looks so much like Squealer (likely animator's fault)
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I decided to be mature about this episode. I will as a result unleash my full brain with no insults but scene by scene description. Let’s start with the episode being nicely shown in terms of the lesbianism and gayism of the society. Nothing was shown too explicit and it was quite clear what is going on. Anything more and a porno would be enough to guess what should happen next but at my age this is not needed. I have understood far easily what is happening.

In terms of love. It shows that the society is quite competitive going as far as stealing other lovers because they know you can’t hurt them less you feel suffering too cause you hurt another human being. This is what happened with Satoru and the little kid. He did not give a rat’s ass about Shun but instead IMO tricked him by getting a similar gift to his? It looked like it to me but at the very least for sure he stole him from Shun.

The other interesting thing is that Saki is not really into lesbianism with Maria. Maria’s laughter made it look like it was a joke the whole lesbianism part. Such as the following,

Whom is quite enticing but by far not serious enough compared to other love sessions that I have seen. As such Saki/Maria are really just using it as it’s meant. To relief stress and not for any serious love like Saki has for Shun. That being said I think Saki is using Maria as a sex friend in that field while Maria might actually have love for Saki like she does for Shun. That’s too bad because I don’t see Saki as a lesbian at all. Another interesting thing there is Saki thinking back to WTF is she doing again. That goes back to questioning her own DNA programming.

I find Maria in the spoiler
rather perplexing during that part. Anyone care to explain WTF happened to her while that other Priest was probing her with kinesis? It was rather strange but Maria there along with:
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Was really shown. Sexy, nice and artfully Eros to say the least for me because I like her the most of all the characters. The legs are a threat indeed.

About thee end, it’s obvious to me that Shun was seen as a risk threat by that priest and IMO they are trying to eliminate him as his mental state may invoke powers that could hurt himself and his society. Remember psychokinesis is connected a lot to feelings and emotions. Whom are not stable in Shun. That being said the last part with Shun x Saki was nice mainly due his collar giving and Saki’s expressions.

Rest of my comments including the whole gay/lesbianism debate is in the club. I am too old for such foolish trifles over sexuality seriously speaking.
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BTW, just me or Shun's dog looks so much like Squealer (likely animator's fault)
NOPE! Saw it miles away it was like that. Let me guess....the eyes?

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Nov 16, 2012 4:10 PM

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Yes, that big puppy eyes, and flat head :D

About Maria, I think she's just concentrating to show her best with levitating. He's also not talking to her first like he does to Satoru, so better not start being talkative and annoying.
They're all trying to show their best to the priest. If he showed interest on them, he might give apprenticeship, or at least connection to a good job. In that case, not so different from what happened in the past.

Still, how powerful is their ability ? They mentioned the priest could have split the earth in half (which will definitely kill him, death trigger or not) and Shun seems to do genetic engineering with his power.

Note: parody scene, not from the anime
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Nov 16, 2012 4:46 PM

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Back to the classroom scene. Unlike when 12 years old and learning to control their power through training and games, this time seems like they're already learning specialization aren't they ? Saki with bottle making, Maria with levitation, Satoru on mirror polishing and Shun with farming (hatching chicks)
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Nov 16, 2012 6:39 PM

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A teenage year, yaoi and yuri stuff.

Hmm,a calm episode there.
 
Nov 16, 2012 6:45 PM

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...what just happened? I knew this anime was weird but this was really really weird...
I also hope they don't make this "inconstant art" a new thing now.
 
Nov 16, 2012 6:51 PM

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Ugg, the animation in this episode was awful. Saki's face was so warped at times i couldn't tell it was her at first.

Thank god there wasn't any serious yaoi action other than the kissing. Novel spoilers gave hints to a lot more stuff happening. Thankfully anime seems to be toning it down for a broader audience.

The Saki and Maria scene was tame also. It felt like BFFs faking foreplay than actual intimacy. Probably most likely due to Saki's mind more focused on her feelings for Shun.

Maria needs to be careful. She's definitely toying with Mamoru. Mamoru has it bad for her and you shouldn't be a playful flirt with someone that's seriously into you.

The overall episode seemed rushed and poor. The animation was bad. The story seemed to rush right into the "sex part" stuff that was foreshadowed by the minoshiro data creature. not much was mentioned about the previous two years. I don't even see any subtle hints of interactions with family members or anything.
 
Nov 16, 2012 6:59 PM

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UGHHHHHH this entire episode was one big KICK IN THE KOKORO

it seems like shun is purposely distancing himself from satoru and saki, because he already knows what's going to happen to him. because he doesn't want them to get hurt.

but what hurts even more was that saki was just about to confess, but she didn't get a chance to.



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Nov 16, 2012 7:00 PM

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Out of everyone I think I feel more bad for Mamoru, since he clearly has someone he likes, but she's with Saki, and they act as if their is nothing he can do about it.

I also felt bad for Shun. It does seem he had feelings for Saki too, although he didn't say anything. And he obviously cared for Satoru, he broke up with him b/c he knew something was gonna happen to him.

All so sad : (
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Nov 16, 2012 7:10 PM
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those who can't stand it, drop it now! This is like Texhnolyze, not everyone will appreciate.

okay, the disturbing scenes aside, this is a good start, now that we've gone through the worst parts of the novel, the real plot about to begin. And is it just me or did the 2 year timeskip felt more like a 4 or even 6 year time skip.
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Nov 16, 2012 7:19 PM
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Oh, and about Maria......
When I saw that part it seemed to me that the weird masked guy was looking at her panties.
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Nov 16, 2012 7:19 PM
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this is the most gay anime i have ever seen this makes the anime K look manly


There is absolutely nothing wrong for two boys to be sexually affectionate towards each other in the context of the series. The way the series portrayed is extremely natural and quite conservative.

Also, there are actual tribes that used to have similar sexual practices in the real world.

I don't understand what is the big deal when two boys kiss that generate such hatred towards supposedly "yaoi". Sorry but this is not yaoi.

Then again: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SelectiveSquick

Totally normal reaction.
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Nov 16, 2012 7:24 PM

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Can you fucking spoiler somewhere else? This is getting annoying in this forum, seriously.

AND OF COURSE the yuri couple didn't even last a second before they crushed us with saki already being in love with shun, great.

This episode was kinda weird, but I'm looking forward to the next episodes and how things are going to turn out.


 
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Can you fucking spoiler somewhere else? This is getting annoying in this forum, seriously.

AND OF COURSE the yuri couple didn't even last a second before they crushed us with saki already being in love with shun, great.

This episode was kinda weird, but I'm looking forward to the next episodes and how things are going to turn out.


saki's been in love with shun for a long time already though. (・ε・ )

but yeah people, use the spoiler tag, okay?
 
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I have no problem with Yaoi or Yuri, but this is pointless and shameless. There was no rhyme or reason for this sort of thing to be added. In the end, it had absolutely no effect on the plot, or the characters. They just threw SatoruxSaki out the window and made him gay. He wasn't even looking at Saki anymore.This is something they'll just throw out and forget it ever happened. It was just done for shock value. If anything though, I'm glad it drove more people away than the other way around. This show deserves to be watched by nobody for doing such a stupid thing.

You just don't randomly throw something like this into an anime.

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Nov 16, 2012 7:32 PM

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HONESTLY, I CAN HARDLY BREATH WHILE WATCHING THIS EPISODE
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Nov 16, 2012 7:38 PM

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Honestly, this episode made me feel weird at first but... I guess it could work in the context of the anime. Oh well, at the end it got awesome again.
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Nov 16, 2012 7:39 PM

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lol it's funny switching from tumblr to MAL. the majority of tumblr are fangirls homolusting and going "OMG HOT YAOI'S I'M SO GOING TO START WATCHING THIS NOW" and the majority of MAL are homophobic males who are dropping it

but in the end, the numbers even out
 
Nov 16, 2012 7:41 PM

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First Reaction: Yaoi and Yuri is considered normal!?? xD what happened to the SatoruxSaki??

awesome episode =w=
 
Nov 16, 2012 7:49 PM

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I only watched the first four minuts of the episode and I aready stoped it like more than 7 times LOL

/let's see if it's only the beginning wich is like this orz/

EDIT: they only have 14 years old, what the fuck are they doing!?? XD;;;;; <--- watched the next 30 seconds
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Nov 16, 2012 7:53 PM
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So.....Mamoru love Maria, Maria love Saki, Saki love Shun, Shun love Satoru...Hahaha what a mess
 
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Found it odd how they treated the one straight guy like the outcast....
 
Nov 16, 2012 7:57 PM
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Found it odd how they treated the one straight guy like the outcast....


LOL. It's like straight people don't exist in this show :|
 
Nov 16, 2012 7:58 PM
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So much BL and GL along with the unfortunate odd one out.

Yup. Just like middle school.
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InfiniteDestiny said:
Found it odd how they treated the one straight guy like the outcast....


LOL. It's like straight people don't exist in this show :|
Guess the rule is you have to be a homo or you'll be alone.
 
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edeswen said:
dafuk yuri and yaoi scene ?
anime dropped~


Why are you dropping it now when you were informed that such things happened in the society of this anime 4 episodes ago?


Funny, you'd think "people turning lustfully gay" would have stuck in my mind when I watched that episode.
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Tyrel said:
InfiniteDestiny said:
Found it odd how they treated the one straight guy like the outcast....


LOL. It's like straight people don't exist in this show :|


Actually they're all bi. So they're half gay half straight...
 
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holy shit, I can't watch it anymore xD;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; /what with that kiss??/

I love BL (A LOT) but I never expected Shinsekai Yori to have this, I was not mentally prepared lol

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Aaah today's episode was outstanding. It felt so short and since I already have read the spoilers about what will happen, I am really excited for the next episode. And saddened. ;A; Really saddened.

But! I actually thought that all the sexy things going on between the boys and girls was actually really well shown. Nothing too intense and nothing too small either. Just the perfect amount in this episode to portray the significance having a lover really is. I felt bad for Mamoru though, poor guy. ;__; Can't wait for next Friday, so much is about to go down.
 
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I thought I might understand the yaoi fangirl's world a bit more after the Shun and Saturo scene, but it seems I'll never be able to enter that yaoi world. Anyway, I'm going to root Satoru and Saki! Satoru lost all his charm though. I liked his cheeky and independent side of him when he was 12.

Anyway, I'm more intriged by the "cat" warning! :)
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7:58 = and now we have yuri...... Q A Qllll

I loved the first episodes, not that....... .-.

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Tyrel said:
InfiniteDestiny said:
Found it odd how they treated the one straight guy like the outcast....


LOL. It's like straight people don't exist in this show :|


Actually they're all bi. So they're half gay half straight...
I am just wondering WTF are you if you jerk off in the village? Is that bad and what happened that they don't mention it in the show?

That's a good question. It's like jerking off totally did not apply in the series but someone else should do it for you.

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Engineered homosexuality by this civilization actually makes perfect sense!

Introduction of homosexuality behaviors by genetic and social engineering actually keep their population VERY low.

If their civilization have a population curve like we do today, there is NO way they can monitor and control the kids' education in such detail.
 
Nov 16, 2012 8:14 PM

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I'm okay with the yuri contents, but not with the yaoi Rofl ...
I can see that the quality in animation has clearly dropped ... What happened?
 
Nov 16, 2012 8:18 PM
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jimjimex said:
Engineered homosexuality by this civilization actually makes perfect sense!

Introduction of homosexuality behaviors by genetic and social engineering actually keep their population VERY low.

If their civilization have a population curve like we do today, there is NO way they can monitor and control the kids' education in such detail.
You'd assume that they're already on some form of contraception with all the sex they have.

Homosexuality would be unnecessary.
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I'm okay with the yuri contents, but not with the yaoi Rofl ...
I can see that the quality in animation has clearly dropped ... What happened?
Good any sharper and my eyes couldn't take it.
 
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Errrr...

I know this is normal in their society... So I won't get into it. Kinda uncomfortable seeing Satoru and Shun's interaction... Oh wells.

Looks like Saki and Mamoru are the weakest among them... As the mask guy only pay attention to Satoru, Maria and Shun

Is that guy looking up Maria's skirt?! That creep! (I would too, in fact I thought about how nobody look up when I first saw her levitate around at the beginning.)

I wonder that guy saw in Shun...

I got a feeling that Shun is becoming a fiend... which is why he have to go to the "rehab house"... I mean, the society is all "social", but Shun wish to be alone, just like the boy who turn into a monster and suicide in lake.


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You'd assume that they're already on some form of contraception with all the sex they have.


Why prescribe *pharmaceutical* contraception if you can genetically encode a *behavioral* trait that can outright eliminate your drive to reproduce completely.
 
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