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| Epic episode. Boob grab might have ruined the mood in battle, but Yoshimoto getting killed would have ruined the whole "refreshing" feeling I get every time I watch this series. And Sagara is right, such a cutie getting killed is a waste! Many may disagree here but in my opinion (although I do have some mixed feelings about it), it might have been best to end the battle with a punch line rather than a serious death. Goemon is Sagara's servant and should be part of his harem. Those guys better not interfere too much during Goemon's fan services because Sagara should deserve to hug Goemon all he wants. And lol, he doesn't see Goemon as a real ninja! Lol, I'm kinda jealous of Nobusumi. I believe Sagara is being too reliant on his knowledge about the history. Once history changes completely, he won't be able to make use of his knowledge. He should also try to use his skills from other similar games just like he did in episode 2 more often. |
| Exellent episode. |
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| ( ﾟ∀ﾟ)o彡ﾟおっぱい！おっぱい！ |
| I think you guys should be gay... The whole episode was great, and the last scene was epic. If you don't want to see that scenes, go back to seinen animes ;p also who in the world dislike grabing-boobs? faith in humanity destroyed BTW: Epic episode 5/5 |
AzuenJul 30, 2012 6:49 AM
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Yvese said: iLostReason said: How should I enjoy it then? I love everything about this anime so far. Is that the wrong way to enjoy it? Am I supposed to be critical of everything? To me, the boob grab was a bonus to everything else in this ep. If it made it better for you, then i guess you don't enjoy this anime like you should. Considering how attractive the girls in this anime are ( And the fact that the historical figures are female ), boob grabs were inevitable. You can almost always expect boob grabs in comedy anime that involve attractive chicks with sizable busts. It's just a gag waiting to happen. Could it have been done in a different scene? Sure, but that boob grab set the punchline for the final scene with Sagara's 'reward'. It is a comedy anime afterall. It seems some of you are forgetting this and are setting yourselves up for disappointment by setting the anime to a more serious tone. Pff, now you're the one criticizing them for the way they want to enjoy this anime >.>; tapanda said: The more I see of this, the more ready I am to see the next episode. Though... Saru is a bit of a lost cause. Don't know what Nobuna sees in him at this point... really don't know why she likes him at all. Unlike every other male character ever he is not a wimp and he is actually decently smart and knows his own bounds. And he shares her dream; wanting to fulfill it. That last part is reason enough alone to love another person, if you're the ambitious /dreamy kind of person. |
| Man, he got a full feel on those Katsuies. Delicious reward for Saru. |
Akiyama said: ( ﾟ∀ﾟ)o彡ﾟおっぱい！おっぱい！ haha thx for this<3 |
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| lol guys, if you think Oda Nobuna has "too much fanservice and kills the action", go watch HOTD. That's a example right there. Oda Nobuna is not overkilling the fan service, and the fan service is a good mix in with the anime, gives it nice comedic relief. Also, who doesn't like fan service? You're all either girls or gay lol. |
| funny episde, took the chance to cop a feel haha |
ICEheaven102 said: lol guys, if you think Oda Nobuna has "too much fanservice and kills the action", go watch HOTD. That's a example right there. Oda Nobuna is not overkilling the fan service, and the fan service is a good mix in with the anime, gives it nice comedic relief. Also, who doesn't like fan service? You're all either girls or gay lol. true, fanservices in Oda Nobuna can be considered as a little when comparing to other show nowadays, and believe me, I've watched enough anime to say so, every anime tends to have some sort of fanservice, but to the amount which ruins the show isn't in this case. |
TheLlama said: Unlike every other male character ever he is not a wimp and he is actually decently smart and knows his own bounds. And he shares her dream; wanting to fulfill it. That last part is reason enough alone to love another person, if you're the ambitious /dreamy kind of person. No, he kinda doesn't know his own bounds. He gets into a lot of problems from acting irrational at times. He has good intentions, but goes about some things the wrong way, and has been criticized about it from Oda on multiple occasions. He's not a wimp, but a little reckless. |
Vforvendetta said: fanservices in Oda Nobuna can be considered as a little when comparing to other show nowadays, and believe me, I've watched enough anime to say so, every anime tends to have some sort of fanservice, but to the amount which ruins the show isn't in this case. This. surprisingly for a show like this one there has been hardly any fanservice (thank god), and when there is it isn't blown too much out of proportion. Definitely one of the better, if not best harem series this summer~ Only 4 episodes in and its progressing well. The comedy seriousness and action of it all are mixed in splendidly ;) |
TheLlama said: Not really. I was just trying to make a point. This anime is also a comedy which some are forgetting. Comedies with cute chicks and some with sizable busts are pretty much asking for some fanservice gags. Viewing the anime with more of a 100% serious tone is only setting yourself up for disappointment if you don't keep in mind the genres of the show. Pff, now you're the one criticizing them for the way they want to enjoy this anime >.>; You can enjoy the anime how you want, but it's also best not to forget the genres the anime is listed as. It's kind of like being surprised and/or disgusted when you see gore or mass amounts of blood in a psychological horror/thriller; the genre pretty much hints at it. Comedies are the same and they can range from a wide variety of gags. |
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| I still say that behind SAO for this season, this has to be the best anime going hands down that is airing. I still love Nobuna, even when she is being stubborn about things she doesnt have to be. Goemon was adorable this episode as well. Also Hanzo is a badass, looking forward to seeing him again. |
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bastek66 said: Sasuga Madhouse  awesome moves! |
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| Oh thank Sagara for stopping Katsuie like a BAWS in killing Yoshimoto,I agree with him is such a waste for killing a cute girl like her. I guess this is the only time I have respect for him |
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| Mediocre. The fighting was pretty lame — it might as well be Dog Days considering how silly it is. I guess that's not the point of the show however. At least there was some forward progress and Saitou managed to get Sagara's head out of his ass for part of the episode. Can't say that I care more about any of the characters after this episode than beforehand. Too much time was spent on the MC. Maybe with the Imagawa out of the way, they'll stop hiding and go do something. |
| haremy end wasnt really in my taste but still a good episode, hope it goes less into harem direction and more into what it was before though. |
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matias067 said: I hope we can see more of this. I actually re-winded the part three times just to see it clearer.bastek66 said: Sasuga Madhouse awesome moves! Leonard93 said: Nah, I don't think it's going in a haremish way. It's just the way the MC thinks. At least he has some balls, lol xDharemy end wasnt really in my taste but still a good episode, hope it goes less into harem direction and more into what it was before though. Aaand... I liked the episode. Still bested only by SAO this season imo. Makes me wanna live in the female Sengoku Jidai really... |
| I'm getting tired of people complaining about this anime being harem or giving fan service. You guys might have seen this anime to have potential and are complaining because you think that harem and fan service are just going to drag this anime down. However, that shouldn't be the case at all. Indeed, it's tiring to watch anime that are filled with nothing but fan service. Most anime even center on harem, moe, ecchi, etc. and intentionally make those factors upstage the story itself, which is usually a bad thing in my opinion. But like I said before, it's not the case for this series. Harem and fan service don't upstage the story at all. In fact, it supports a lot of character development while the story progresses smoothly. As I've said in my previous post, many people might have wanted this to be a more serious anime. However, taking away the comedic parts of this series is definitely a minus. Many Seinen anime have a problem of being too dull because they make it too serious that they don't even consider putting some sort of breather in them. Every anime needs a breather, otherwise it'll be too exhausting to watch even if the quality of the story is high. Don't get me wrong, I'm also a fan of Seinen, it's just a problem I often see in most of them. Mockman said: Isn't that how it should to be?Too much time was spent on the MC. In my opinion, Oda Nobuna no Yabou is one of the best new animes this season. Although it's still not on the level of SAO and Kingdom. |
VerneJulesJul 31, 2012 5:05 AM
| Monkey was very useful this episode. A was pretty surprised about how easy Nobuna took him back. Awesome fights scenes near the end too. The rain made for a very interesting setting. The way he stopped Katsuie from killing her was genius, haha. Can't say there's too much fan service, just a little here and there is nothing compared to other series. |
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| The modern Atsumori was quite cool. De aru ka. (I see.) --- "Human life only lasts fifty twenty years; it's just a slumber of the gods of the lower grade and it's mortal for me." (well then, let's start the war.) |
| This show would be a lot better without the superficial breast-groping and female on male violence scenes. Also, the creators might be intending to show the conflicting sides of being a girl and an ambitious ruler at the same time, but the portrayal is just jarring. Sulking all day long in your room? Meh, 3/5. |
bastek66 said: Epic scene. But the hell? She's supposed to be a strategist, right? Why is she fighting in the front line wearing a yukata instead of an armor?Sasuga Madhouse |
Nah, I don't think it's going in a haremish way. It's just the way the MC thinks. At least he has some balls, lol xD its also a way of avoiding bloody deaths i guess. |
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VerneJules said: Cos it's always better like this. :3bastek66 said: Epic scene. But the hell? She's supposed to be a strategist, right? Why is she fighting in the front line wearing a yukata instead of an armor?Sasuga Madhouse |
Yvese said: TheLlama said: Not really. I was just trying to make a point. This anime is also a comedy which some are forgetting. Comedies with cute chicks and some with sizable busts are pretty much asking for some fanservice gags. Viewing the anime with more of a 100% serious tone is only setting yourself up for disappointment if you don't keep in mind the genres of the show. Pff, now you're the one criticizing them for the way they want to enjoy this anime >.>; You can enjoy the anime how you want, but it's also best not to forget the genres the anime is listed as. It's kind of like being surprised and/or disgusted when you see gore or mass amounts of blood in a psychological horror/thriller; the genre pretty much hints at it. Comedies are the same and they can range from a wide variety of gags. Genres are very loose borders. A show defined as 'comedy' can still be very serious, and some types of comedy are more mature/'serious' than others. It isn't too much to want to see the humor at more appropriate times, or less of it. Personally I don't mind the boob grab at all, just wish they'd placed it at a different point. It can still be a comedy without ruining epic action scenes with comedic relief 8D |
| I must say, Madhouse is really doing a great job here. |
| Wow, I gotta hand it to this anime. These usually suck huge donkey balls, annoying the piss shit out of me and all fanservice, but this one is pleasantly fun to watch and the main character isn't a diptard. |
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VerneJules said: I'm getting tired of people complaining about this anime being harem or giving fan service. You guys might have seen this anime to have potential and are complaining because you think that harem and fan service are just going to drag this anime down. However, that shouldn't be the case at all. Indeed, it's tiring to watch anime that are filled with nothing but fan service. Most anime even center on harem, moe, ecchi, etc. and intentionally make those factors upstage the story itself, which is usually a bad thing in my opinion. But like I said before, it's not the case for this series. Harem and fan service don't upstage the story at all. In fact, it supports a lot of character development while the story progresses smoothly. As I've said in my previous post, many people might have wanted this to be a more serious anime. However, taking away the comedic parts of this series is definitely a minus. Many Seinen anime have a problem of being too dull because they make it too serious that they don't even consider putting some sort of breather in them. Every anime needs a breather, otherwise it'll be too exhausting to watch even if the quality of the story is high. Don't get me wrong, I'm also a fan of Seinen, it's just a problem I often see in most of them. . ALL of this. Haters gonna hate bro. |
Beak said: 1,2,3 LOL. Rationalizing fan service is the way to go! |
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Beak said: So many hypocrites here. Is there really a need to whine about boobs and harem when it does not upstage the story, as VerneJules mentioned. What are all of you trying to proof here? "I am a good boy" " I am a pure person" "I am not a pervert" "I am a serious person" Oh please, just as how some tropes in a harem anime are overused, your whines are the same as well. Why try so hard to proof that the bulk of you are saint when in real life you'll definitely talk with your buddies about the girls and their bees. Unless you're gay or a 'lonely boy', that's a different story altogether ...or we're just fucking tired of poor harem series and anime that relies overly much on fan service and we don't want this anime to go there (and why do you assume everyone here's a boy)? That said I don't think this anime is doing anything wrong with regards to harem/fan service. It has a fair amount of it without letting it bog down the series. I still think the boob grab could have been placed more appropriately though, but overall the episode was at least 4.7/5 (much in thanks to the Atsumori scene, that transcended every anime scene I've ever found to be exceptional) ForgiveSins said: Wow, I gotta hand it to this anime. These usually suck huge donkey balls, annoying the piss shit out of me and all fanservice, but this one is pleasantly fun to watch and the main character isn't a diptard. Yess I so much agree. Mostly every harem anime has a male lead who sucks major balls, treat women like aliens and has a brain that makes a monkey seem like fucking Einstein. This, not so much. VerneJules said: As I've said in my previous post, many people might have wanted this to be a more serious anime. However, taking away the comedic parts of this series is definitely a minus. Many Seinen anime have a problem of being too dull because they make it too serious that they don't even consider putting some sort of breather in them. Every anime needs a breather, otherwise it'll be too exhausting to watch even if the quality of the story is high. Don't get me wrong, I'm also a fan of Seinen, it's just a problem I often see in most of them. Comedic relief is always good but many mature series actually have mature humor that doesn't rely on silly parodies and cheap fanservice. I enjoy the humor in this one but I still sincerely hope it won't rely too much on fanserivce. |
| This thread has definitely made me chuckle at how a 5 second boob grab can end up as a 2-3 page argument. TheLlama said: Honestly you're overreacting to a 5 second boob grab scene. You act as if the anime will somehow make a 180 and place 10x more fanservice gags when that hasn't been the case so far. Heck, there wasn't even a fanservice scene in ep 3 that I remember, yet now in ep 4 with a 5 second boob grab it's become some huge controversy. ...or we're just fucking tired of poor harem series and anime that relies overly much on fan service and we don't want this anime to go there (and why do you assume everyone here's a boy)? That said I don't think this anime is doing anything wrong with regards to harem/fan service. It has a fair amount of it without letting it bog down the series. I still think the boob grab could have been placed more appropriately though, but overall the episode was at least 4.7/5 (much in thanks to the Atsumori scene, that transcended every anime scene I've ever found to be exceptional) Also, the boob grab was placed appropriately. It's a comedy anime. It doesn't matter how much of it is comedy, it's still comedy. The boob grab scene set up the punchline for the end of the ep where Nobuna gives Sagara his "reward". Heck, this anime is also a romance so you could look at it from a romantic point of view and see it as Nobuna being jealous and angry, typical of tsunderes. TheLlama said: Again, you're overreacting. A 5 second scene isn't going to suddenly change the direction of the anime into your standard Ecchi show. Comedic relief is always good but many mature series actually have mature humor that doesn't rely on silly parodies and cheap fanservice. I enjoy the humor in this one but I still sincerely hope it won't rely too much on fanserivce. TheLlama said: It doesn't matter if a show listed as comedy can be serious or not. Fact of the matter is, a comedy is a comedy no matter how many gags are in it, and with this show having historical figures being female, it was pretty much setup to have fanservice gags here and there.Genres are very loose borders. A show defined as 'comedy' can still be very serious, and some types of comedy are more mature/'serious' than others. It isn't too much to want to see the humor at more appropriate times, or less of it. Personally I don't mind the boob grab at all, just wish they'd placed it at a different point. It can still be a comedy without ruining epic action scenes with comedic relief 8D It just really boggles the mind how a 5 second scene could spark such a controversy in this thread. People that get annoyed at short, harmless fanservice scenes must take life too seriously ( seriously lighten up some of you ) or have low libido. I'm hoping for the latter. That, or you're a female which would be understandable in this case. I can understand not liking shows that are made with fanservice in mind ( Ecchi and Harems ), but a 5 second scene? Come on. |
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| I'm much surprised that you hold good opinions of this anime. I fear for your misunderstanding of Japanese history. |
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nifffy said: As if we're watching it for the history lesson.I'm much surprised that you hold good opinions of this anime. I fear for your misunderstanding of Japanese history. |
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Cratex said: nifffy said: As if we're watching it for the history lesson.I'm much surprised that you hold good opinions of this anime. I fear for your misunderstanding of Japanese history. Quite. Historical fiction can be great without sticking exactly to the historical events. It's created for enjoyment, not for educational purposes. "It didn't actually happen like that" has been used as criticism for everything from Macbeth to Blackadder, and seems to assume that the work is somehow inferior on account of the writer modifying events, characters or even lines to make the story more entertaining for themselves and for the intended audience. |
| There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do. |
| Grabbed her boobs to stop her. Great. >.< Just too much fanservice I tell you. Lol. And now the enemy is joining Saru's harem. Woopeee!! XD Haha, at least it's not as bad as Campione! :P (Watching fanservice when you're a girl is somewhat painful .__. Thanks, you perverted male viewers.) |
fishergirl16Aug 7, 2012 1:00 PM
| I wonder if we going to see an increase in the harem? |
| way to go tainter! |
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| Katsuie is just so innocent and cute when it comes to stuff like this. And haha I like his reason for letting Yoshimoto live, seems like she's fallen a little for him too. Then seeing Nobuna jealous like that was great, I am loving the scenes between her and Saru. Great ep. |
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| So far, I am enjoying the anime and the harem. Also for me, Nobuna reminds me of Haruhi |
| What can I say, I'm hooked. This reminds me of an old game I used to love and enjoy, Dynasty Warriors. xD |
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