The Netherlands experienced another night of unrest heading into Tuesday after protesters opposing a coronavirus curfew confronted police and threw fireworks. Riot police clashed with groups of protesters in Amsterdam as well as the port city of Rotterdam, Amersfoort in the east, and the small southern city of Geleen near Maastricht, police and Dutch news reports said. Amsterdam police said they had made eight arrests. In Rotterdam, police used a water cannon after clashing with rioters, the national broadcaster NOS reported. The city's mayor Ahmed Aboutaleb has issued an emergency decree which gives police broader powers of arrest. "The riot police have carried out charges and arrests have been made," Rotterdam's city council said in a tweet. "There is an urgent request to all to leave the area," the council added. The motivation behind Monday's incidents was not immediately clear, but rioters were overwhelmingly in their teens and twenties. 'Worst rioting in 40 years' It was the second night of unrest in towns and cities across the Netherlands that initially grew out of calls to protest against the country's tough lockdown, but degenerated into vandalism by crowds whipped up by messages swirling on social media. Dutch media reported calls on social media for further violent protests even as the country struggles to contain new coronavirus infections, hospitalizations and deaths. The Netherlands has seen more than 950,000 COVID infections and over 13,600 confirmed virus deaths so far. The curfew, the first in the country since World War II, was imposed after the National Institute for Health (RIVM) warned a new wave of infections was on its way owing to the risk posed by new and more infectious variants, though numbers of new infections in the Netherlands have been declining for weeks. Violators of the 9 p.m. to 4:30 a.m. curfew, which is set to last until at least February 10, face a €95 ($115) fine. Exemptions are allowed, for example for people having to work, attend funerals or walk their dogs, on condition that they present a certificate. The Netherlands was already under its toughest measures since the start of the pandemic, with bars and restaurants having closed in October, and schools and non-essential shops shut since December. https://www.dw.com/en/netherlands-another-night-of-riots-over-coronavirus-curfew/a-56341554 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/police-use-tear-gas-water-cannon-amid-rioting-over-covid-n1255596 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55799919 People are mad and rightfully so, this situation is unbearable |
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deg said: Milennin said: Freedom is easily given up, but you'll have to fight to get them back. Never just let them take away your freedom. Millions of people in history have died fighting in wars, earning the freedom you have now. is individual freedom more important than public health? individual freedom is more important than useless laws that don't help preventing the virus from spreading. |
| I saw bigger riots at ajax-psv matches, just let the people vent at football matches and there would be no riots. Give the people the bread and circus they deserve. |
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| A curfew really wouldn't help I would think because it would increase density of people out during non curfew hours wouldn't it? Not that I think it should be rioted over. |
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deg said: Milennin said: Freedom is easily given up, but you'll have to fight to get them back. Never just let them take away your freedom. Millions of people in history have died fighting in wars, earning the freedom you have now. is individual freedom more important than public health? Yes. (15 character limit) |
| haha amsterdam has a mayor with the name of "Ahmed Aboutaleb" |
| oh snap |
deg said: Only_Brad said: individual freedom is more important than useless laws that don't help preventing the virus from spreading. you mean mask and social distancing extending to curfew hours for example are useless? Yeah, lets just let the virus spreed as much as it wants, it is not like if he manages to infect more people than what the medics are able to treat at once all the people over that number will have to go without aid and will be even more likely to both spread it and die. Everything for liberty, rigth? /S |
| heh. |
Milennin said: deg said: you got to be joking unless you do not care about your family and friends as well as your individual health too #FlattenTheCurve "2 weeks to flatten the curve" (early 2020) Nearly a whole year later, and here we are. It's time to wake up. I think that the quote you provided would have worked if people weren't stupid. Along with that, we had an administration who didn't do enough to curb the spread and literally did not have a plan to helping the populace. It astonishes me that people still don't understand that mask are meant to stop you from infecting others, and people generally don't what to be infected by a virus which could harm them. Arguably if you don't wear a mask you are harming others by violating their individual rights not to be infested with Covid-19 on by a person with fridge temp IQ. |
slightycognizantJan 26, 2021 7:48 AM
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| Should have just put the boomers and immune compromised into lockdown. The stats speak for themselves. You can look at the insignificant deaths of those under fifty with no health complications. Of course the boomers are the largest voting bloc in the first world and it grows every year with less and less births. So it would never happen. Thus the boomer hegemony must be destroyed. |
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Soverign said: Should have just put the boomers and immune compromised into lockdown. The stats speak for themselves. You can look at the insignificant deaths of those under fifty with no health complications. Of course the boomers are the largest voting bloc in the first world and it grows every year with less and less births. So it would never happen. Thus the boomer hegemony must be destroyed. And them the young people go back home and contaminates the elders, good job, you genocided the Boomers. ... Actually, it dosen't sound that bad when you call them boomers. |
| heh. |
Bob-o-Dominador said: Soverign said: Should have just put the boomers and immune compromised into lockdown. The stats speak for themselves. You can look at the insignificant deaths of those under fifty with no health complications. Of course the boomers are the largest voting bloc in the first world and it grows every year with less and less births. So it would never happen. Thus the boomer hegemony must be destroyed. And them the young people go back home and contaminates the elders, good job, you genocided the Boomers. ... Actually, it dosen't sound that bad when you call them boomers. Freedom must be won by any means necessary. There must be a great reset to the broken system. |
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slightycognizant said: Milennin said: "2 weeks to flatten the curve" (early 2020) Nearly a whole year later, and here we are. It's time to wake up. I think that the quote you provided would have worked if people weren't stupid. Along with that, we had an administration who didn't do enough to curb the spread and literally did not have a plan to helping the populace. It astonishes me that people still don't understand that mask are meant to stop you from infecting others, and people generally don't what to be infected by a virus which could harm them. Arguably if you don't wear a mask you are harming others by violating their individual rights not to be infested with Covid-19 on by a person with fridge temp IQ. You deserve to be locked in a solitary confinement cell and have all your rights and freedoms taken from you for the rest of your life if you're that scared of catching a virus with 0,0001% fatality rate. I guess that to some people it is a better solution than having to deal with a cold for a week. Meanwhile, normal people will have their immune system do the work and go on with their life as normal. |
| Damn...when I went to Amsterdam in 2019 it seemed like one of the most peaceful places ever to be. Covid has turned the world upside down. |
| Netherlands just wasn't the country I expected to react to corona restrictions like this |
Chitoson said: The riots were pretty crazy in Rotterdam south and Den Bosch .. Believe me that there will be much more, tonight and upcoming weekend. Especially in Amsterdam. Probably they are Moroccans or Turks  |
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slightycognizant said: Milennin said: "2 weeks to flatten the curve" (early 2020) Nearly a whole year later, and here we are. It's time to wake up. I think that the quote you provided would have worked if people weren't stupid. Along with that, we had an administration who didn't do enough to curb the spread and literally did not have a plan to helping the populace. As of now, the Biden administration has killed nearly 35,000 Americans because of his gross mismanagement of the COVID virus. When will the president be held accountable for his negligence! 🤣 When are you people gonna realize that nothing the government does is gonna work. Michigan and New York have had some of the tightest lockdowns in the US and they’ve been a disaster. If any ounce of you voted for Biden be a you actually thought he was gonna change the virus at all then you are extremely naive to the point of it being dangerous. Days in and Biden already admits there is nothing they can do about the virus. Imagine actually thinking that every problem that happens to the country is somehow the president’s fault. He isn’t God you know. @BenRyan If anything that’s an argument in favor of immigration. Westerners have grown too compliant and most people in Europe and the US seem perfectly willing to bend over and take it up the ass from government these days. |
Ryuk9428Jan 27, 2021 12:25 PM
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Ryuk9428 said: slightycognizant said: I think that the quote you provided would have worked if people weren't stupid. Along with that, we had an administration who didn't do enough to curb the spread and literally did not have a plan to helping the populace. As of now, the Biden administration has killed nearly 35,000 Americans because of his gross mismanagement of the COVID virus. When will the president be held accountable for his negligence! 🤣 When are you people gonna realize that nothing the government does is gonna work. Michigan and New York have had some of the tightest lockdowns in the US and they’ve been a disaster. If any ounce of you voted for Biden be a you actually thought he was gonna change the virus at all then you are extremely naive to the point of it being dangerous. Days in and Biden already admits there is nothing they can do about the virus. Imagine actually thinking that every problem that happens to the country is somehow the president’s fault. He isn’t God you know. Racist Biden also decided to close the borders. Can you believe this? |
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Milennin said: slightycognizant said: I think that the quote you provided would have worked if people weren't stupid. Along with that, we had an administration who didn't do enough to curb the spread and literally did not have a plan to helping the populace. It astonishes me that people still don't understand that mask are meant to stop you from infecting others, and people generally don't what to be infected by a virus which could harm them. Arguably if you don't wear a mask you are harming others by violating their individual rights not to be infested with Covid-19 on by a person with fridge temp IQ. You deserve to be locked in a solitary confinement cell and have all your rights and freedoms taken from you for the rest of your life if you're that scared of catching a virus with 0,0001% fatality rate. I guess that to some people it is a better solution than having to deal with a cold for a week. Meanwhile, normal people will have their immune system do the work and go on with their life as normal. Should I be locked up in solitary confinement because I don't mind voluntarily wearing a mask that prevents me from infecting others around me? The fatality of the virus is 2% globally so I don't want the chance of giving someone a virus and let them suffer that 2 percent chance of death and even if they don't die, the health affects are massively impactful. There is a likelihood that one's immune system could handle this but the fact that you can receive major health effects after struggling to beat it in the first place is distressing. It's hilarious that you compare voluntarily wearing a mask so you don't infect others to something like the Guantanamo Bay. We literally have cellular devices that readily hand our location to the NSA and you conservatives happily embrace it but the second a dangerous virus spreads like rapid-fire globally and scientist recommend for you to wear a mask; you freak the fuck out about your individual liberty to fuck over others. Ryuk9428 said: slightycognizant said: I think that the quote you provided would have worked if people weren't stupid. Along with that, we had an administration who didn't do enough to curb the spread and literally did not have a plan to helping the populace. As of now, the Biden administration has killed nearly 35,000 Americans because of his gross mismanagement of the COVID virus. When will the president be held accountable for his negligence! 🤣 When are you people gonna realize that nothing the government does is gonna work. Michigan and New York have had some of the tightest lockdowns in the US and they’ve been a disaster. If any ounce of you voted for Biden be a you actually thought he was gonna change the virus at all then you are extremely naive to the point of it being dangerous. Days in and Biden already admits there is nothing they can do about the virus. Imagine actually thinking that every problem that happens to the country is somehow the president’s fault. He isn’t God you know. @BenRyan If anything that’s an argument in favor of immigration. Westerners have grown too compliant and most people in Europe and the US seem perfectly willing to bend over and take it up the ass from government these days. No shit, the president isn't a deity that could snap it's fingers and solve all problems. All I am asking for some form of mitigation of harm done to the populace via the Coronavirus which is what the Biden Administration is attempting to do, which sets him apart from the Trump Administration. Also, can you and Ben circlejerk about """immigrants""" somewhere else? Holy shit. At least learn to put the mask on. |
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BenRyan said: Chitoson said: The riots were pretty crazy in Rotterdam south and Den Bosch .. Believe me that there will be much more, tonight and upcoming weekend. Especially in Amsterdam. Probably they are Moroccans or Turks There's a whole town full of only Dutch people called Urk which is 1 big riot city. They even set fire to a corona testing centre. So I wouldn't say its only foreigners. |
BenRyan said: I'm sorry, I'm not smart enough to understand your data. Could you please explain to me what they mean? Chitoson said: The riots were pretty crazy in Rotterdam south and Den Bosch .. Believe me that there will be much more, tonight and upcoming weekend. Especially in Amsterdam. Probably they are Moroccans or Turks I always foolishly thought that the census describes 'dutch' as someone born to both dutch parents, the autochtonen, and anyone born in the Netherlands, but to even a single parent born abroad (even Germany is abroad, so crazy, right?), as not 'dutch', the allochtonen, unlike most western countries. These are bad words to use now, but the concepts are still the same. However, you apparently seem to know so much about how it all works, so maybe you could enlighten me on what the truth is and what it means? |
KosmonautJan 27, 2021 1:58 PM
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| @Kosmonaut You are dutch. I don't think further explanation is needed and the data is pretty easy to read. Use your glass and look for red circles. |
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BenRyan said: I did put my glasses! But I still don't get it. I mean, data means nothing by themselves, right? Data serve an argument. Why can't you tell me exactly what you meant by that? Is there a reason not to? @Kosmonaut You are dutch. I don't think further explanation is needed and the data is pretty easy to read. Use your glass and look for red circles. |
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slightycognizant said: Milennin said: You deserve to be locked in a solitary confinement cell and have all your rights and freedoms taken from you for the rest of your life if you're that scared of catching a virus with 0,0001% fatality rate. I guess that to some people it is a better solution than having to deal with a cold for a week. Meanwhile, normal people will have their immune system do the work and go on with their life as normal. Should I be locked up in solitary confinement because I don't mind voluntarily wearing a mask that prevents me from infecting others around me? The fatality of the virus is 2% globally so I don't want the chance of giving someone a virus and let them suffer that 2 percent chance of death and even if they don't die, the health affects are massively impactful. There is a likelihood that one's immune system could handle this but the fact that you can receive major health effects after struggling to beat it in the first place is distressing. It's hilarious that you compare voluntarily wearing a mask so you don't infect others to something like the Guantanamo Bay. We literally have cellular devices that readily hand our location to the NSA and you conservatives happily embrace it but the second a dangerous virus spreads like rapid-fire globally and scientist recommend for you to wear a mask; you freak the fuck out about your individual liberty to fuck over others. Ryuk9428 said: As of now, the Biden administration has killed nearly 35,000 Americans because of his gross mismanagement of the COVID virus. When will the president be held accountable for his negligence! 🤣 When are you people gonna realize that nothing the government does is gonna work. Michigan and New York have had some of the tightest lockdowns in the US and they’ve been a disaster. If any ounce of you voted for Biden be a you actually thought he was gonna change the virus at all then you are extremely naive to the point of it being dangerous. Days in and Biden already admits there is nothing they can do about the virus. Imagine actually thinking that every problem that happens to the country is somehow the president’s fault. He isn’t God you know. @BenRyan If anything that’s an argument in favor of immigration. Westerners have grown too compliant and most people in Europe and the US seem perfectly willing to bend over and take it up the ass from government these days. No shit, the president isn't a deity that could snap it's fingers and solve all problems. All I am asking for some form of mitigation of harm done to the populace via the Coronavirus which is what the Biden Administration is attempting to do, which sets him apart from the Trump Administration. Also, can you and Ben circlejerk about """immigrants""" somewhere else? Holy shit. At least learn to put the mask on. What exactly is Biden doing differently from Trump besides making you wear masks in a fucking park? Are you aware of the fact that COVID almost never spreads outside. |
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