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Happy endings or bad endings?
Mar 25, 2013 5:06 PM
#1
I think that it depends. Let's use One Piece as example (I always use One Piece as example): Luffy fighted it has been 587 episodes, and there will be even more episodes. If everything ends up with a tragic ending, all hes fights will be worth nothing? I think he deserves a happy ending, he fight very hard for it. But now, about Death Note: Did Yagami Light deserved a good ending? No, he didn't, for obvious reasons. But anyway, what you think? |
Mar 25, 2013 5:07 PM
#2
For the most part, I like bittersweet endings. Happy endings are mostly too generic and completely bad endings generally don't leave a feeling of resolution. |
Mar 25, 2013 5:10 PM
#4
I prefer to have something in between? But I like happy endings the best, Since the good guy's should always win~ |
Mar 25, 2013 5:10 PM
#5
What ever the type of ending, it needs to be deserved. Being sad for the sake of being sad doesn't make a good ending, it needs to feel warranted otherwise its just ends up being manipulative. But also a happy ending which wasn't deserved or really fought for will feel cheap. |
Mar 25, 2013 5:11 PM
#6
Obviously depending on the type of show but I prefer endings that are more bad than good, yet not tragic, and have a ring of fatality to them. |
Mar 25, 2013 5:11 PM
#7
Bittersweet, followed by a happy ending that's earned after going through a whole lot of crap. |
Mar 25, 2013 5:14 PM
#8
Bittersweet ending. Great, but has it's bad things. |
Mar 25, 2013 5:20 PM
#9
happy endings for everyone |
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Mar 25, 2013 5:21 PM
#10
tragic ending are more realistic. i understand the main character have to live but the other characters shouldnt have that same protection. get tired of the same cheesy wraped in a bow endings |
Mar 25, 2013 5:21 PM
#11
funny, most people prefer happy endings I thought it would be the counter |
Mar 25, 2013 5:23 PM
#12
zero92 said: tragic ending are more realistic. i understand the main character have to live but the other characters shouldnt have that same protection. get tired of the same cheesy wraped in a bow endings i fail to see how a mech blowing up an entire galaxy is realistic XD |
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
Mar 25, 2013 5:24 PM
#13
I can't answer the poll, since my answer is Happy endings most of the time, sad endings sometimes |
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Mar 25, 2013 5:24 PM
#14
Romance tragedies, and not the kind that the deceased comes to back to life thanks to some stupid fantasy bullshit. I'm looking at you, Clannad. |
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
Mar 25, 2013 5:24 PM
#15
I like happy endings, but only if they're resolved in an unexpected, plot-twisting way. It's also nice to see endings that aren't 100% happy (like the death of a more-important-side character, or some sort of sacrifice that had to be made to achieve the best possible outcome, ect). Perfectly happy endings usually aren't done that well, and are far from realistic. ... but tragic endings really hurt my heart. For some reason a more tragic ending will stop me from rewatching the anime again... compared to a series with a happier ending which I can sit through multiple times. No matter how well done it was. I guess I just don't want to experience that tragedy all over again, at least for some while. |
Mar 25, 2013 5:25 PM
#16
Depends on the anime, some anime are better with a tragic ending where tons of people die and you're left with bitter feelings, others are better with a happy ending where everything is tied up and lives happily ever after. |
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Mar 25, 2013 5:26 PM
#18
bittersweet is always the best. Usuually when it pulls towards happy/ hopeful. 100% tragic endings are kind of....terrible, like from a writing standpoint they are horible, you can have a sad ending and be fine but as long as there is some form of hope. But when its a 100% downer then it makes the whole show feel like absolute waste of time. |
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Mar 25, 2013 5:27 PM
#19
lupadim said: But anyway, what you think? I'd laugh if one piece had a sad ending, I might actually root for it |
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Mar 25, 2013 5:27 PM
#21
I prefer endings that fit with the show. Happy endings are considered a cliche by most, but I would argue that that's much more in western production not anime and it can't really be a cliche when there's only two or three real options. Tragic endings or dark edgy endings, if done right, do often leave the greatest impact on me, but many tragic endings are also forced and characters are killed in ridiculous ways for no other reason than they needed to die. |
Mar 25, 2013 5:28 PM
#22
as long as its a well done ending and not bs example and then suddenly some random space monster that has no context with the actual plot appear and killed the hero the end :| Slyr3do0n said: I prefer endings that fit with the show. Happy endings are considered a cliche by most, but I would argue that that's much more in western production not anime and it can't really be a cliche when there's only two or three real options. Tragic endings or dark edgy endings, if done right, do often leave the greatest impact on me, but many tragic endings are also forced and characters are killed in ridiculous ways for no other reason than they needed to die. +1 |
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
Mar 25, 2013 5:33 PM
#23
Happy or bittersweet. I dont like sad endings. |
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Mar 25, 2013 5:37 PM
#24
I have nothing against happy endings if done right. But I hate it when they are forced via deus ex machina. Especially if it's one of those: "<girlfriend's name> is dead..." *last episode* "Surprise! I am alive!" *happy ending* *fat otaku is now happy that his waifu is alive* If they want that ending so badly, there are ways to make them legit, instead of just reviving the character or saying that she wasn't dead but just in a coma. People probably know what I'm talking about haha. |
Mar 25, 2013 6:03 PM
#25
It really depends what type of anime it is for me. If it's a light comedy or something of that sort, then I'd probably prefer a happy ending, but if it's a really intense action or something then I'm okay with happy or sad as long as it's executed well. |
Mar 25, 2013 6:09 PM
#26
Bittersweet endings have the best impact. You don't know what to think, you can't view them in black and white as you would a good or bad ending. They force you to be emotionally strong. |
Mar 25, 2013 6:12 PM
#27
It really depends on the show and the type of ending that would best fit it... That said, i've always been partial to bittersweet endings and feel they're the best type of ending. But if I had to pick between the two I probably go with a happy ending, especially if the protagonist worked hard for it. Its just overall more satisfying. |
Mar 25, 2013 6:12 PM
#28
Mar 25, 2013 6:24 PM
#29
Luxanna said: For the most part, I like bittersweet endings. Happy endings are mostly too generic and completely bad endings generally don't leave a feeling of resolution. This, or if it has to be one of those two, generally happy. |
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Mar 25, 2013 6:42 PM
#31
A middle ground. Something realistic and bittersweet. |
Mar 25, 2013 6:48 PM
#32
Sad/Tragic endings are my favorite. |
Mar 25, 2013 6:50 PM
#33
depends on what type of genre I'm reading/watching/etc. |
Mar 25, 2013 6:53 PM
#34
I'll take any ending that's not forced or abrupt. |
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Mar 25, 2013 7:09 PM
#35
Shrabster said: Tragic endings always have a stronger impact. The more tragic, the more memorable and beloved it becomes to me. Of course, in reasonable with the entire story. It can't be like Bakuman and then have all the characters die suddenly, wouldn't make sense. |
Mar 25, 2013 7:12 PM
#36
Tragic ends make give me so many feels. I also like cliff hangers because they give hope for another season. |
Mar 25, 2013 7:14 PM
#37
>looks at poll Why would anyone prefer "bad" endings? |
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Mar 25, 2013 7:15 PM
#38
Diacritic said: Shrabster said: Tragic endings always have a stronger impact. The more tragic, the more memorable and beloved it becomes to me. Of course, in reasonable with the entire story. It can't be like Bakuman and then have all the characters die suddenly, wouldn't make sense. Exactly! It has to depend on the anime and it can't be a forced ending. Happy endings don't always stick with me. Tragic or bittersweet endings end up stuck on my mind. |
Mar 25, 2013 7:18 PM
#39
katsucats said: >looks at poll Why would anyone prefer "bad" endings? Yes the poll is poorly written. Even assuming "bad" means "sad" it's still missing the obvious "it depends on the show." |
Mar 25, 2013 7:34 PM
#40
Tragic endings leave a greater emotional impact. But whether or not I like tragic endings better than happy endings depends on how the tragedy is handled, and the character actions there after. If the tragedy is portrayed as facetious or in mean spirit, such as School Days. Or anything NTR. If the tragedy is portrayed as a true tragedy and results in a positive character development, like Clannad, more specifically Nagisa's death and Tomoya's development afterword I also like it if it is used as exposition for means of characterization. However, this could go in two different directions, depending on how it's treated the rest of the series. Like in Bokura ga Ita, Yano's girlfriend's death, absence of father, and much later past the anime into the manga, the suicide of his mother. However, again, if displayed facetiously, like in Kore Wa Zombie Desu Ka? Ayumu is violently murdered because he was trying to preform an act of kindness. This would have been an exceptional opportunity to develop his character, as well as provide for a riveting plot. Instead they decided on having a harem come along, treat Ayumu like complete utter dog shit, and display tits on the screen for half the episodes. Ayumu's tragedy is seldom brought up ever again, except till the very end. And even then, all of the drama and development is focused on kawaii moe Eucliwood, leaving Ayumu, in my opinion, shafted. It was a funny ass show, but it left a bitter taste in my mouth. And the sequel is just horrible. I also don't like drama for the sake of drama. Like Clannad again, specifically, all the harem cliche "sad" stuff in the first season, and especially Ushio's death. That was just unnecessary and felt forced. Like the writers were chopping onions under my face in an attempt to make tear up. Nagisa's death was incredibly well done, because of Tomoya's development with his daughter, peace with his father, peace with himself, and overall becoming a better person. It should have ended with Tomoya continuing to father Ushio as a single father and leading a life of happiness with her. And the forced happy fairy tale ending is bullshit. It completely eradicated and undermined Tomoya's development. I also don't like melodrama. Characters overreacting to stupid stuff for the sake of "drama" Kimi ni Todoke, while not a tragedy, is incredibly guilty of this. Overall, tragic leaves a greater impact, but it depends entirely on how it is presented for whether or not I like it. |
Mar 25, 2013 7:38 PM
#41
It depends rally, I can't blanket say "I like happy endings" or "I like tragic endings".. Screw it, happy endings. I don't care how tragic it is as long as there is some semblance of happiness by the end. If anything is straight tragedy, as in no happiness by the end of it complete despair, I probably won't like it, unless its the level of masterpiece that can pull it off. Now that I think about it, what anime actually have a tragic ending? I mean, I can think of tons of em with tragic events, but I don't think I've seen a true tragedy. |
If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list. |
Mar 25, 2013 7:39 PM
#42
Red_Keys said: Tragic endings leave a greater emotional impact. But whether or not I like tragic endings better than happy endings depends on how the tragedy is handled, and the character actions there after. If the tragedy is portrayed as facetious or in mean spirit, such as School Days. Or anything NTR. If the tragedy is portrayed as a true tragedy and results in a positive character development, like Clannad, more specifically Nagisa's death and Tomoya's development afterword I also like it if it is used as exposition for means of characterization. However, this could go in two different directions, depending on how it's treated the rest of the series. Like in Bokura ga Ita, Yano's girlfriend's death, absence of father, and much later past the anime into the manga, the suicide of his mother. However, again, if displayed facetiously, like in Kore Wa Zombie Desu Ka? Ayumu is violently murdered because he was trying to preform an act of kindness. This would have been an exceptional opportunity to develop his character, as well as provide for a riveting plot. Instead they decided on having a harem come along, treat Ayumu like complete utter dog shit, and display tits on the screen for half the episodes. Ayumu's tragedy is seldom brought up ever again, except till the very end. And even then, all of the drama and development is focused on kawaii moe Eucliwood, leaving Ayumu, in my opinion, shafted. It was a funny ass show, but it left a bitter taste in my mouth. And the sequel is just horrible. I also don't like drama for the sake of drama. Like Clannad again, specifically, all the harem cliche "sad" stuff in the first season, and especially Ushio's death. That was just unnecessary and felt forced. Like the writers were chopping onions under my face in an attempt to make tear up. Nagisa's death was incredibly well done, because of Tomoya's development with his daughter, peace with his father, peace with himself, and overall becoming a better person. It should have ended with Tomoya continuing to father Ushio as a single father and leading a life of happiness with her. And the forced happy fairy tale ending is bullshit. It completely eradicated and undermined Tomoya's development. I also don't like melodrama. Characters overreacting to stupid stuff for the sake of "drama" Kimi ni Todoke, while not a tragedy, is incredibly guilty of this. Overall, tragic leaves a greater impact, but it depends entirely on how it is presented for whether or not I like it. This is mean. I want to see your examples but I'm terrified of spoiling somehting I haven't seen. GAH |
If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list. |
Mar 25, 2013 7:40 PM
#43
Mar 25, 2013 7:44 PM
#44
I actually prefer a mind-fuck ending or even a good cliffhanger. |
Mar 25, 2013 7:47 PM
#45
Red_Keys said: QuiGonJon said: I double-spoilered it specifically for that reason haha, so all shall be safe!This is mean. I want to see your examples but I'm terrified of spoiling somehting I haven't seen. GAH Ah I see now, how useful |
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Mar 25, 2013 7:48 PM
#46
Mar 25, 2013 8:24 PM
#47
Mar 25, 2013 10:43 PM
#48
I hate sad/tragic endings.Those endings piss me off.They make me feel like I just wasted 4-9 hours over the course of the week I spent watching that series. |
Mar 25, 2013 10:48 PM
#49
For some reasons, It's hard for me to like tragic endings. Can't help but think "Why?" in the end. |
Mar 25, 2013 10:54 PM
#50
No way am I watching anything with a tragic ending that renders the whole story pointless, such as Grave of The Fireflies. |
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