| Utena - 4deep5me anime which is very repetitive and only has bishies posing all the time, what pissied me off more than anything was Utea, she breaks school rules by claiming to wear the boys uniform but none of the boys in the school wear that uniform, yeah being a boy is all about wearing hot pants and playing it cool without ever thinking or questioning anything. And then a guy claiming to be her prince appears and she lets him fuck her, great. |
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| bakemonogatari. lot of infodump that are distracting you for something as simple as a man getting his own harem by fixing those girls problems. |
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BerZzzerk said: Thanks for this. You summarize my problemProb Bunny Girl Senpai - They tried to explain everything with quantum physics and it just didn't work. They were trying too hard to sound smart and make it all complex/realistic when it's supposed to be a supernatural anime. |
| It has got to be One Punch man S2 and all the later story. It tries to discuss about effort, hard work, talent, and meaning of being a hero on a gag manga about an overpowered mc who's lazy and bored, and doesn't care about being heroic. Also Darling in the Franxx. (chuckle) Need I explain this one? |
| I'm surprised to see that there are a lot of people who think that EOE was actually trash and no where near to the TV series. I enjoyed the tv series but the movie was just a troll LOL. I think i've read it somewhere that creators were very infuriated with the fanbase since they were demanding the so called not really required 'perfect ending' to the tv series which they ended in the best possible way they could in the remaining budget. If thats the case then let me tell u what was on their mind " Oh, so u people need a sequel huh? Ok, we will create such a absolute piece of trash that u guys would never even dream of wanting a sequel again!" But when this movie was well received and many people even calling it the best piece of art ever made, they finally realised that Miyazaki was right, anime was definitely a mistake lmao. PS. Although i dont have anything against the people who love this movie, in fact there is a person in my friend list who has EOE in his favorite. Its just that sometimes my emotions get better of me LOL. So if someone got offended then i apologise. And for the OP's question, Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae wo Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai fits the bill And the reason has been perfectly stated by this guy inim said: Overall, it's pretentious because everything is fake and forced. Cry now! Because I tell you so! |
silent_knight98Aug 23, 2020 12:27 AM
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| Monogatari It's just a waifu show that tries to be deep but in the end it just doesn't make sense AnoHana too.It tries to show depression in a depressing way but it's too plain boring, stupid and annoying that the show becomes shit and pretentious SAO especially this season.Seriously, you expect me to get sad over your game avatar? |
FatephileAug 23, 2020 10:05 AM
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SatoriTendo_GM said: I think Eva is "deep." Too bad, guess I'm a prideful wannabe-intellectual. Oh well. I have to say Neon Genesis Evangelion, I have a friend who watched it and always says that its the deepest anime ever and you have to be super smart to understand it, and it annoys the s**t out of me. TL;DR I think that anyone who praises Eva for being deep is just prideful and thinks too highly of themselves because they enjoy the watching “deep” anime  |
| Recently, probably something like assassins pride |
inim said: Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso is pretentious because it's fake tragedy about fake emotions. Watching it felt like biting into a deliciously looking burger, just to find out it's made of plastic and for decoration only. To call the show melodrama is an insult to all soap operas ever made. Kaori isn't a real person, she is a plot device incarnate. Kousei's trauma feels forced and unrealistic in many ways, take it from somebody to whom depression is no stranger. With two mains who do not feel like real persons but plot devices, everything felt like malevolent attempt to jerk tears and manipulate emotions, Even the music, which could have saved the show a little bit, is fake, In Nodama Cantabile or Sakamichi no Apollon the music feels real, you learn why performance A is good and B is not. In YLiA you are just told it is genius, no detail on the how and why is given. Another piece of plastic you must swallow. And vivid color animations don't make it any better just prettier. Overall, it's pretentious because everything is fake and forced. Cry now! Because I tell you so! I disagree with you but your take is actually quite interesting. For me, the themes presented in YLIA are amazing, including abuse, loss, and despair. Kousei's trauma doesn't feel forced in my opinion, I saw his story as an exploration of accepting a loss. |
| pretentious is a word people misunderstand a lot and pretentiously use |
Lucifrost said: actually agreeI'm REALLY surprised nobody has said Legend of the Galactic Heroes. I couldn't take any of it seriously. it gets lost in its desire to push the message that history repeats so much so that it misunderstands its own setting and oddly limits itself |
| I don't really like calling things "pretentious" but if I had to pick something, I'd go with Bunny Girl Senpai. Rarely can a show tick me off so bad that I show physical signs of disgust. |
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| like all those light novels that are self aware but not really and they're not funny or clever or interesting and just really bad |
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| I think only people can be pretentious not really media. Majority of the time when someone says some media is pretentious it's either they didn't understand it or are reading too deep onto it or just simply didn't like it. |
| Paranoia agent - "Big twist" was way too predictable and all that symbolism later on was just a big mess. Suicide squad episode was amazing tho |
| I have never felt that way. To me, imaginary media are a great place to think up our world, to contemplate our nature. So, it is only natural that no ambition is too great for it. As Victor Hugo went about it, "Tout est sujet ; tout relève de l'art, tout a droit de cité en poésie." (Les Orientales (1829) de Victor Hugo) Translation: Everything counts as subject; everything is relevant to art, everything deserves quoting in poetry. |
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| It's funny how many people complained about shows that are "deep" (some shows don't even try to be that so that is even funnier). For me the only true pretencious show, is the one that takes itself to seriously. I don't remember the last anime that made me think about that, but most of the shows named here shouldn't be here. Edit: Bunny sempai is a good choice, the pseudo-scientific BS and the info dumps about topics that have been done countless times before were fking annoying |
DaCraziGuyAug 23, 2020 11:28 PM
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| "Welcome to the NHK" for me. It tried to sell itself as some kind of realistic scenario, but characters made no sense at all. |
| Surprised not many people have mentioned the 'Monogatari Series'.Now don't get me wrong it is an amazing harem anime but that is all it is.I have always found that the show tries to bring in as many different themes in its narrative as possible but never really explores most of those themes carefully.It thus feels more like a cheap trick used by the creators to create a sense of fake depth rather than providing any real depth to the story.The show also contradicts its own ideas constantly and is pretty hypocritical in nature. For eg:-In the first arc they portrays sexual harassment as a serious issue and handle it with as much care and respect as a topic like this requires but then in the later arcs they start treating it as comedy by portraying the mc molesting a loli as a running gag. |
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| Kaijuu no Kodomo is the most pretentious anime I've ever seen. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate arthouse and psychedelic themes in both anime and film, but absolutely nothing appealed to me about this movie save for the animation, at times. It can't decide whether to have a plot or not. It can't decide whether to ground the characters in reality or detach them. It's a bunch of ideas thrown in together, connected by pretty (sometimes) visuals, but with no substance underneath. The main character, Ruka, flips between showing emotions and being a deadpan robot without any reason. And by the end of it, when the mundane returns, I was left wondering: "what was the point of this? how did it change Ruka significantly?" Maybe the movie is #2deep4me, in which case I'd love an explanation if anyone has gotten anything out of it, or whether there's some cultural component I'm missing. |
| i heard Elfen Lied is a pinnacle of edgelordism (and is a shitty mess overall) so i havent even tried to watch it. out of those that i did try, i say Ancient Magus Bride. The show seems to have some central idea but whatever that is, it's lost halfway through. |
| bunnygirl. the moment you attempt to do what monogatari does but with actual science instead of folklore stuff, you destroy the viewer's suspension of disbelief. you can't just twist logic and facts to your liking, like you would with tales. Kyokou Suiri aka let me talk bullshit for 3 episodes throwing red herrings around until I accidentally get on the right track because I ruled out every other possibility already based on your reactions. if words can kill, this show used it's power to kill my interest. zetsuen no tempest this is the most obnoxious and pretentious anime I have ever seen. I can't express my hate enough for the characters just randomly quoting literature while looking captivated. nobody in the world would look at weird stuff happening before their eyes and start quoting stuff they learned in the drama club. I havn't finished it. I tried my best, I truly did but I couldn't get further than a few episodes no matter how hard I tried to force it. black rock shooter it's a pile of angst trying to sound deep, characters content with abuse because it's easier to escape pain than do something about it. that's the whole message, but it's delivered so poorly I still wonder who greenlit this show. everything is filled with nonsense convos that don't drive the plot. fight scenes only happen on screen because otherwise this show would've never sold. it feels detached, the battle only happens inside the mind of the girls. it's used as a crutch to keep the viewer's attention, because the story sure wouldn't be able to. |
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| Using "pretentious" as a criticism is such a simpleton fodder argument. It basically means that you don't like the anime but cannot identify why it is actually flawed, so you plead ignorance instead of creating a concrete argument. Pretentious means: "attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed." Unless an anime is explicitly saying "this anime is culturally important," you cannot criticize it as being pretentious since an anime never claimed to be more important than it is. Stick to the basic objective metrics such as characters, setting, story, plot, themes, tone, art, sound, etc. Those are what you can concretely criticize instead of saying an anime is bad for being ambitious. Heck, you can even say "an anime tried to be too ambitious that it failed to adequately execute its fundamental parts" and that would be a valid criticism. Other technical details that you can criticize instead of saying "it's pretentious" include: "is dialogue realistic?", "is there too much suspension of disbelief?", "is the directing rational?", etc. However, the "it's pretentious" argument is just lazy. |
_henriAug 24, 2020 7:35 AM
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_henri said: Using "pretentious" as a criticism is such a simpleton fodder argument. It basically means that you don't like the anime but cannot identify why it is actually flawed, so you plead ignorance instead of creating a concrete argument. Pretentious means: "attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed." Unless an anime is explicitly saying "this anime is culturally important," you cannot criticize it as being pretentious since an anime never claimed to be more important than it is. Stick to the basic objective metrics such as characters, setting, story, plot, themes, tone, art, sound, etc. Those are what you can concretely criticize instead of saying an anime is bad for being ambitious. Heck, you can even say "an anime tried to be too ambitious that it failed to adequately execute its fundamental part" and that would be a valid criticism. Other technical details that you can criticize instead of saying "it's pretentious" include: "is dialogue realistic?", "is there too much suspension of disbelief?", "is the directing rational?", etc. However, the "it's pretentious" argument is just lazy. You have god awful taste but you hit the nail on the head here |
haydenluvsanime said: I don't really like calling things "pretentious" but if I had to pick something, I'd go with Bunny Girl Senpai. Rarely can a show tick me off so bad that I show physical signs of disgust. Your profile gave me multiple STDs but I have to agree that bunny girl senpai is enraging. And even worse my closest friends love it, probably their #1 anime. |
| @Dhaarok You're welcome, enjoy your STDs |
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| Personally I haven't come across an anime that fits that category; in my opinion what makes it that way are certain fanbases that develop ~deeper~ meanings or expand on certain events in an anime that really don't have to be expanded/explained on. Evangelion for example is tactic fully done in the sense where most questions aren't answered in the anime/manga or interviews with developers. The point is the watcher/reader is to interpret those answers how they want but in reality there aren't any real answers that pertain to the actual story lol. What ends up happening with certain anime fanbases is they collectively create theories and when you don't agree you just ~don't get it~ I wouldn't fault a franchise for it, just the fans. |
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Probably Neon Genesis Evangelion. It’s annoying how people say it’s “It’s so good and it’s the deepest anime EVAR” It’s just boring as fuck imo |
| Legend of the Galactic Heroes. All in all it's just a few gay characters doing gay-ish stuff. |
| Ergo Proxy throws a bunch of philosophical jargon at the viewers with no real purpose other than to sound smart. |
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| Kanata no Astra. It tried so many things at once. It even has a character with an IQ of 200 in it, well, and if his IQ was really that high, the show would have ended much faster and without all this unncecessary nonsense that kept happening. |
If life ain't just a joke Then why are we laughing? If life ain't just a joke Then why am I dead? |
| mfs see one obscure thing in something and call it pretentious huh |
| Space Dandy was particularly pretentious, it kinda gave off bigheaded vibes. |
Ruitt said: Classroom of the Elite. Every episode started with a quote. Thought I'd quote this to say I agree. |
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| I, personally, think that My Hero Academia Is pretentious for manipulating people with a supposed inspirational narrative. Urgh, it just shouts "Feel something, people!" and "Deku is smart, I swear!" |
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| I feel like Naruto: Shippuden is being pretentious by betraying its narrative standpoint: "Hard work beats Talent". |
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| Bunny girl senpai. Adimus_prime said: If it's one thing I really don't like in an anime is when it thinks it's way to smart for it's own good. This is a huge pet peeve of mine. So what is the most pretentious anime you have ever seen? The first one for me is Akame ga Kill. Now it's not pretentious in like a "2deep4u" way but it's pretentious in the way that the show thinks it's way to mature for it's own good. The show carries itself as if it's not like every other shounen anime but then does almost every shounen trope you can think of. That lack of self awareness makes it feel so much more pretentious to me. For some reason I keep reading Kill la Kill every time I see Akame ga Kill. I was really confused given your avatar and signature. I agree though, I was still an idiot who loved every shounen show by the time I watched Akame ga Kill and yet I still hated it, episode one felt like something I something I would write in 5th grade. |
| I haven't really thought of any anime as pretentious, however, i get the pretentious feeling sometimes from the people talking about them, which kinda of spreads to my feelings about the anime itself. Fatephile said: Monogatari It's just a waifu show that tries to be deep but in the end it just doesn't make sense AnoHana too.It tries to show depression in a depressing way but it's too plain boring, stupid and annoying that the show becomes shit and pretentious SAO especially this season.Seriously, you expect me to get sad over your game avatar? yea it is certainly a waifu show in disguise and pretends to be deep, however I think that irony is why I enjoyed it so much. |
yarukaAug 25, 2020 6:16 AM
| Monogatari, Serial Experiments Lain and FLCL |
| Most things by Ikuhara Utena and Sarazanmai.....ugh I dislike both of them. "I'm going to be as weird as possible and throw symbolism around to show the audience how very deep I am." Like.....shut up. Go make music videos instead, lol. |
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| The Monogatari series is definitely pretentious in my opinion. The creator basically humble brags about how smart he is. But I heavily enjoy Monogatari so... |
LoknirAug 25, 2020 10:21 AM
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| Kiznaiver had an interesting premise but focuses too much on the characters' romance and eventually gets away from itself. I remember the scene where everyone's on the ground writhing in pain caused by the emotional distress of their high school crush daisy-chain: Katsuhira likes Noriko, but Chidori likes Katsuhira, but Tenga likes Chidori, but Nico likes Tenga! It pulled on the heartstrings so hard, they snapped and instead it became really funny |
_henri said: Using "pretentious" as a criticism is such a simpleton fodder argument. It basically means that you don't like the anime but cannot identify why it is actually flawed, so you plead ignorance instead of creating a concrete argument. Pretentious means: "attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed." Unless an anime is explicitly saying "this anime is culturally important," you cannot criticize it as being pretentious since an anime never claimed to be more important than it is. Stick to the basic objective metrics such as characters, setting, story, plot, themes, tone, art, sound, etc. Those are what you can concretely criticize instead of saying an anime is bad for being ambitious. Heck, you can even say "an anime tried to be too ambitious that it failed to adequately execute its fundamental parts" and that would be a valid criticism. Other technical details that you can criticize instead of saying "it's pretentious" include: "is dialogue realistic?", "is there too much suspension of disbelief?", "is the directing rational?", etc. However, the "it's pretentious" argument is just lazy. Thank you for being a gem of a comment in a thread of trash. |
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| The monogatari series. I liked Bakemonogatari, it's characterization and plot is well written but the dialogue writing is just too over the top. If it had maintained it's interesting story I may have continued it. Sadly I couldn't take more and dropped it at Monogatari 2nd season. |
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| I've never viewed Psycho Pass as pretentious. The discussions of conflicting ideologies never gave me that impression. It seems you either need to go all-in and make every aspect of the show about these concepts or not do it at all and be a braindead harem show.. Anything in between is deemed trying to be something its not. That'd be like calling Fate/Zero pretentious because it had that one scene with the discussion of the kings. And you go "wow look at this show trying to be smart!!!" |
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