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Oct 4, 2017 11:11 AM
#151
I hate to talk about shit like this, but in my opinion guns aren’t the only issue here--there’s also security. Anytime a mass shooting happens like this, I always think of not just how poor our gun laws are, but also how poor our security is. Take the Philippines, for example. There you have security guards at any public place you go, school, mall, hotel, whatever. They have metal detectors at every entrance, as well as guards that make you open your bag to check for anything suspicious--and that country has better gun laws than here! For a nation that has the right to keep and bear arms, it sure as hell has very poor security. Don’t just limit security to state buildings like the Empire State Building or the Smithsonian--I don’t care how people react, it’s better to feel safe than sorry. |
Oct 4, 2017 11:51 AM
#152
I will now illuminate some facts about the shooting's aftermath. Feel free to let it detonate in your mind |
Oct 4, 2017 11:57 AM
#153
Nothing's more American than getting into debt for being caught up in a massacre tbh. |
Oct 4, 2017 1:30 PM
#154
Rest in peace to the victims that died from the shooting. I wish the best for the families of those who were shot and killed. I pray for those that are in critical condition. |
Oct 4, 2017 2:17 PM
#155
I dont get it....... so everyone apparently has a gun in america right? why dont you scared lil fuckers; instead of pissing your pants and getting killed, pull your own guns out and shoot back. and if everyone doesnt have a gun then............. I mean if more ppl had guns on them when this happened, im sure one of those fitty dead woulda had the balls to shoot back and kill the perp. I mean wouldnt it be like castle law or self-defence to kill a mass murderer with your own gun? |
Oct 4, 2017 2:29 PM
#156
KuroudoAkabane said: I dont get it....... so everyone apparently has a gun in america right? why dont you scared lil fuckers; instead of pissing your pants and getting killed, pull your own guns out and shoot back. and if everyone doesnt have a gun then............. I mean if more ppl had guns on them when this happened, im sure one of those fitty dead woulda had the balls to shoot back and kill the perp. I mean wouldnt it be like castle law or self-defence to kill a mass murderer with your own gun? I assume they dont carry them like cops. Just in their house. Also even locating the person who is shooting at time should be hard and probably you need a sniper rifle to be able to shoot him because of the distance. |
Oct 4, 2017 2:31 PM
#157
KuroudoAkabane said: I dont get it....... so everyone apparently has a gun in america right? why dont you scared lil fuckers; instead of pissing your pants and getting killed, pull your own guns out and shoot back. and if everyone doesnt have a gun then............. I mean if more ppl had guns on them when this happened, im sure one of those fitty dead woulda had the balls to shoot back and kill the perp. I mean wouldnt it be like castle law or self-defence to kill a mass murderer with your own gun? Really? You're going there? The shooter was really far away in an hotel on the 32nd floor, so even assuming people had guns (I'm pretty sure even America doesn't allow guns on concerts) you really think they could have taken the shot? |
Oct 4, 2017 2:34 PM
#158
sasalx said: im not saying ur a gun control supporter but how would that help?KuroudoAkabane said: I dont get it....... so everyone apparently has a gun in america right? why dont you scared lil fuckers; instead of pissing your pants and getting killed, pull your own guns out and shoot back. and if everyone doesnt have a gun then............. I mean if more ppl had guns on them when this happened, im sure one of those fitty dead woulda had the balls to shoot back and kill the perp. I mean wouldnt it be like castle law or self-defence to kill a mass murderer with your own gun? I assume they dont carry them like cops. Just in their house. Also even locating the person who is shooting at time should be hard and probably you need a sniper rifle to be able to shoot him because of the distance. anti social elements can always find black market weapons. lets say gun control was already in place in vegas for like 10 years, this guy could have found a way to buy an illegal gun and ammo and go on this spree any way..... whats the point of gun control then? hell whats the point of being a gun owner in this case then anyway. |
Oct 4, 2017 2:37 PM
#159
Hekselka said: 32nd floor?KuroudoAkabane said: I dont get it....... so everyone apparently has a gun in america right? why dont you scared lil fuckers; instead of pissing your pants and getting killed, pull your own guns out and shoot back. and if everyone doesnt have a gun then............. I mean if more ppl had guns on them when this happened, im sure one of those fitty dead woulda had the balls to shoot back and kill the perp. I mean wouldnt it be like castle law or self-defence to kill a mass murderer with your own gun? Really? You're going there? The shooter was really far away in an hotel on the 32nd floor, so even assuming people had guns (I'm pretty sure even America doesn't allow guns on concerts) you really think they could have taken the shot? hmmmm didnt read about it being a sniper attack like that other time.... I thought he as on the ground. and I was talking about ..... well in general, like the last one or the one before that..... killing sprees are kinda common now ne? |
Oct 4, 2017 2:39 PM
#160
@KuroudoAkabane I didnt even talk about gun control. I just simulated what would happen when everything you wrote was true. |
Oct 4, 2017 2:43 PM
#161
iLolicon said: traed said: Let me break it down for you because you just don't seem to understand.iLolicon said: traed said: And yet you're willing to spend time discussing it. My parody was humorous, but that doesn't mean I have anything to hide and just because you personally failed to comprehend it does not mean it failed at what I was going for.iLolicon said: traed said: It can be a feature of parody. I just used it as such. If you can't comprehend that then that's on you, and yeah I was mocking myself a little by proposing that I too follow Date's extreme ideology.iLolicon said: traed said: iLolicon said: AvaG said: iLolicon said: deadprez said: isekai said: how will the republicans react to this I suppose they'll just say we need more guns. Guns for the whole family. Come on, we all know that this is a result of the right wing and it's tyranny. The only real solution is to install a pure left wing government. Guns are for those in power to stay in power, they don't belong in the hands of civilians who might try to revolt in such a society. yeah, disarm the population then politicians dont fear them anymore, they would be just like defenseless sheep, ready for the slaughter :p Defenseless sheep? Pfttt.... NO, you are mistaken good sir. Then they would be a proud slave... err.. I meant 'workforce' ready to support their nation's great leaders who they would love and not be controlled by at all. As shown by the past, communism and socialism has been nothing but a success, that is why we must push to turn every nation to this flawless system. So that we can all live in harmony in a happy world with no critical economic issues, major loss of human rights or corruption. The right wing is evil and doesn't support such a perfect way of life, they must be stopped at all cost. We must stop injustice comrades !! #DateYutaka for world president. You should stay away from politics. Time and time again you show you have no idea about it. No politician calls for a gun ban. Also anarchists and socialists and communists are mostly pro gun. The parody went right over your head. Of course I took it to the extreme, but that was the whole point. You should stay away from threads that get you emotional enough to tell someone they have no place in political views. Socialists and Communists are not mostly pro gun so don't pull such statements out of your ass unless you have the figures to back it up. Exaggeration isn't parody when you actually believe the perspective of the position you're "parodying"unless your making fun of yourself. Guns are literally part of revolutionary theory. I was speaking more about revolutionary socialists rather than Democratic socialists. It should be obvious to anyone. Why would they want to take away guns they need to overthrow the government? Lol You don't know what your saying there. They want guns in their own hands but not anyone else. Assuming that a nation is already Communist or Socialist, they certainly don't want guns in the hands of the people. They have to maintain law by force. That would provide a means to fight back. And let's be honest, not even communists would want experience real life communism as one with no authority. That doesn't mean hiding behind humor means you're above having flaws pointed out. Also you completely failed at what you were going for and that's on you. Everything you said is what most ordinary conservatives in the US say all the time. No not quite. What happened in some of those countries was buerocrats trying to make sure they maintain control. It was just some bad method of a transition period called state-capitalism. Anyway look at the Zapatistas they all are heavily armed. Look at the YPG they are out there killing ISIS. Also even for places like the USSR they didn't have a full fun ban and that was really only under Stalin that they had a high restrictions. I agree with ordinary conservatives then, what's your point? Seems to me like you are trying to suggest that's a bad thing. Thank God I don't live in the US though. Americans always seem to think they are the whole world. State-capitalism is just an excuse, communists constantly try to get away with it by saying it wasn't 'real communism', it was just a transition period. It can't realistically function because it always turns out the same way; but some people never learn from history and still advocate for it. It's just insane really. "Only under Stalin" You really have no idea. You did not properly convey yourself through words. You literally said the same things so many conservatives in the US say. Nothing you said was parody level. It's how things actually are. Is English not your first language? It's not an excuse it's literally what it was according to Lenin. Stalin was who called it communism but that was his lazy attempt to calm anxieties of change which never got implimented. Anyway this had ability nothing to do with this topic just drop it. I never said it was only under Stalin just that it started with him and was stronger with him. I didn't say it ended with him. As I pointed out earlier Russia as it is today has stricter gun control than the US. Their government is pretty conservative. So you have a politically illiterate narrative. Date actually thinks like that. He genuinely believes that a communist/social society is a good idea and would legitimately be functional. I was parodying him by sarcastically promoting his extreme view. American conservatives thinking in the same way as me doesn't mean I wasn't parodying him. It just means they share my political view on a far-left governed society. here you said "even for places like the USSR they didn't have a full fun ban and that was really only under Stalin that they had a high restrictions." Of course they often weren't able to maintain full gun restrictions. It's impossible, but they certainly tried. Such governments look out only for their own interests; and keeping the people unarmed in order to prevent possible resistance was one up at the top of their agenda. His view isn't extreme except how much he likes to complain about Zionists. He and I are both against Stalin and Mao types. Socialism is basically a catch all term for a large variety of ideologies. Also I didn't even see him in this thread so why talk about him? Again this had nothing to do with the topic of mass shootings. I wasn't meaning to be that literal when i said "only". I don't see anything that days they didn't allow guns for civilians at all. It seems that it was just people could get hunting licenses. The UK has as strict of laws as the USSR did and they are conservative and right wing economically. |
Oct 4, 2017 2:47 PM
#162
KuroudoAkabane said: Hekselka said: 32nd floor?KuroudoAkabane said: I dont get it....... so everyone apparently has a gun in america right? why dont you scared lil fuckers; instead of pissing your pants and getting killed, pull your own guns out and shoot back. and if everyone doesnt have a gun then............. I mean if more ppl had guns on them when this happened, im sure one of those fitty dead woulda had the balls to shoot back and kill the perp. I mean wouldnt it be like castle law or self-defence to kill a mass murderer with your own gun? Really? You're going there? The shooter was really far away in an hotel on the 32nd floor, so even assuming people had guns (I'm pretty sure even America doesn't allow guns on concerts) you really think they could have taken the shot? hmmmm didnt read about it being a sniper attack like that other time.... I thought he as on the ground. and I was talking about ..... well in general, like the last one or the one before that..... killing sprees are kinda common now ne? Nope. Take a look here: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooting-what-we-know/index.html I'm not sure about the general situation. I don't live in America. I did read that the guy who did this legaly bought guns but illegally modded them in an automatic weapon. |
Oct 4, 2017 3:13 PM
#163
Hekselka said: KuroudoAkabane said: Hekselka said: KuroudoAkabane said: I dont get it....... so everyone apparently has a gun in america right? why dont you scared lil fuckers; instead of pissing your pants and getting killed, pull your own guns out and shoot back. and if everyone doesnt have a gun then............. I mean if more ppl had guns on them when this happened, im sure one of those fitty dead woulda had the balls to shoot back and kill the perp. I mean wouldnt it be like castle law or self-defence to kill a mass murderer with your own gun? Really? You're going there? The shooter was really far away in an hotel on the 32nd floor, so even assuming people had guns (I'm pretty sure even America doesn't allow guns on concerts) you really think they could have taken the shot? hmmmm didnt read about it being a sniper attack like that other time.... I thought he as on the ground. and I was talking about ..... well in general, like the last one or the one before that..... killing sprees are kinda common now ne? Nope. Take a look here: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooting-what-we-know/index.html I'm not sure about the general situation. I don't live in America. I did read that the guy who did this legaly bought guns but illegally modded them in an automatic weapon. Nah. What he used for automatic fire was a bump stock and purchasing one is perfectly legal wherever he bought it. http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/news/a28479/vegas-shooter-bump-stock/ |
Oct 4, 2017 3:22 PM
#164
TheDerpMan said: Hekselka said: KuroudoAkabane said: Hekselka said: 32nd floor?KuroudoAkabane said: I dont get it....... so everyone apparently has a gun in america right? why dont you scared lil fuckers; instead of pissing your pants and getting killed, pull your own guns out and shoot back. and if everyone doesnt have a gun then............. I mean if more ppl had guns on them when this happened, im sure one of those fitty dead woulda had the balls to shoot back and kill the perp. I mean wouldnt it be like castle law or self-defence to kill a mass murderer with your own gun? Really? You're going there? The shooter was really far away in an hotel on the 32nd floor, so even assuming people had guns (I'm pretty sure even America doesn't allow guns on concerts) you really think they could have taken the shot? hmmmm didnt read about it being a sniper attack like that other time.... I thought he as on the ground. and I was talking about ..... well in general, like the last one or the one before that..... killing sprees are kinda common now ne? Nope. Take a look here: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooting-what-we-know/index.html I'm not sure about the general situation. I don't live in America. I did read that the guy who did this legaly bought guns but illegally modded them in an automatic weapon. Nah. What he used for automatic fire was a bump stock and purchasing one is perfectly legal wherever he bought it. http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/news/a28479/vegas-shooter-bump-stock/ Yeah, you're right. Just did some reading and damn that's nuts, apparently you can just buy that stuff in a walmart from all places. |
Oct 4, 2017 3:49 PM
#165
Hekselka said: TheDerpMan said: Hekselka said: KuroudoAkabane said: Hekselka said: 32nd floor?KuroudoAkabane said: I dont get it....... so everyone apparently has a gun in america right? why dont you scared lil fuckers; instead of pissing your pants and getting killed, pull your own guns out and shoot back. and if everyone doesnt have a gun then............. I mean if more ppl had guns on them when this happened, im sure one of those fitty dead woulda had the balls to shoot back and kill the perp. I mean wouldnt it be like castle law or self-defence to kill a mass murderer with your own gun? Really? You're going there? The shooter was really far away in an hotel on the 32nd floor, so even assuming people had guns (I'm pretty sure even America doesn't allow guns on concerts) you really think they could have taken the shot? hmmmm didnt read about it being a sniper attack like that other time.... I thought he as on the ground. and I was talking about ..... well in general, like the last one or the one before that..... killing sprees are kinda common now ne? Nope. Take a look here: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooting-what-we-know/index.html I'm not sure about the general situation. I don't live in America. I did read that the guy who did this legaly bought guns but illegally modded them in an automatic weapon. Nah. What he used for automatic fire was a bump stock and purchasing one is perfectly legal wherever he bought it. http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/news/a28479/vegas-shooter-bump-stock/ Yeah, you're right. Just did some reading and damn that's nuts, apparently you can just buy that stuff in a walmart from all places. you can make one at home based on the design, thats why is not forbidden, and it doesnt change the gun itself. hey whats up with the cnn link, of all places in the web the first time i see it mentioned in these times is in this forum, you guys like, 10 year old kids or something? just asking. |
Oct 4, 2017 4:29 PM
#166
Literally no civilian even needs full auto. Anything related to full auto should be automatically illegal. For that matter semi auto too. The most I could see a person needing would be a three shot if they're a shit shot while hunting deer or other animals. |
Oct 4, 2017 4:36 PM
#167
Drunk_Samurai said: Literally no civilian even needs full auto. Anything related to full auto should be automatically illegal. For that matter semi auto too. The most I could see a person needing would be a three shot if they're a shit shot while hunting deer or other animals. yeah the only way to avoid situations like this one is banning all semi-auto weapons, wich is totally unrealistic. also, it would not ban evil :p |
Oct 4, 2017 5:54 PM
#168
Akito_Kinomoto said: I will now illuminate some facts about the shooting's aftermath. Feel free to let it detonate in your mind NudeBear said: Nothing's more American than getting into debt for being caught up in a massacre tbh. FREEEEEEDDDOOOOOOMMMMM* Terms and Conditions apply and and we are not hold any responsibility if anything happened in the proccess FUCK YEAH... |
Oct 4, 2017 6:05 PM
#169
Gun laws I would like to see looked at: screenings on people buying ammo. screenings on people buying enhancements. A registry for certain kinds of equipment. A registry once you get to a certain number of guns. All gun sales should require a background check regardless if the sale is private. Require law enforcement to evaluate an applicant’s alleged need before issuing a concealed handgun license, or open carry license. It is no secret, and absolutely not magic that the 7 states with the strictest gun laws are all in the top 10 least gun death places. And the states with the most gun deaths have some of the most liberal gun laws. States with weak gun laws and higher gun ownership lead in gun deaths. Big shocker. Despite murder going down overall in our nation. Violence going down. And even gun death- in the regions which gun control is just not a thing, gun violence has actually gone up. |
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Oct 4, 2017 6:06 PM
#170
That was just a sick and disgusting act i hate ppl like that. This is why i hate the world, like for real. My condolence goes out to all who was involved... |
Oct 4, 2017 6:33 PM
#171
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/10/02/former-president-of-mexico-scolds-u-s-after-las-vegas-attack-and-gets-scorched-over-it/ "What are gun laws like in Mexico? While Mexican citizens have a constitutional right to own guns, the state highly regulates the ownership of guns, and rarely grants conceal-carry permits. As a result, few Mexican citizens own guns legally. Some gun advocates have demanded expansion of gun rights so that Mexican citizens can defend themselves from the violence in Mexico. Are they right about Mexico being a dangerous country? Mexico has one of the highest homicide rates in the world. A 2017 survey found there were more than 22,000 homicides in the country and rated it the second deadliest country in the world, worse than Afghanistan or Yemen. Defenders of the country blame the violence on U.S. demand for illegal drugs." Damn those Yanquis for buying our drugs! If it wasn't for them our gun laws would work! |
Oct 4, 2017 7:01 PM
#172
AvaG said: Drunk_Samurai said: Literally no civilian even needs full auto. Anything related to full auto should be automatically illegal. For that matter semi auto too. The most I could see a person needing would be a three shot if they're a shit shot while hunting deer or other animals. yeah the only way to avoid situations like this one is banning all semi-auto weapons, wich is totally unrealistic. also, it would not ban evil :p It doesn't matter if it's unrealistic or not. Tell me why ANY civilian would actually need them. |
Oct 4, 2017 9:47 PM
#173
isekai said: not enough guns out on the public to keep USA safe even babies should carry guns next time for them to defend themselves /s How about maybe completely abolish the right for a citizen to have a gun? Take my wonderful country Canada for example, where we're not allowed to own guns, and compare the gun violence in both countries and see which law is better here. On top of that your argument is illogical, the shooter was shooting from around the 30th floor of a hotel. Not like a guy with a gun would be able to spot and kill him.... |
Oct 4, 2017 10:05 PM
#174
AvaG said: Hekselka said: TheDerpMan said: Hekselka said: KuroudoAkabane said: Hekselka said: 32nd floor?KuroudoAkabane said: I dont get it....... so everyone apparently has a gun in america right? why dont you scared lil fuckers; instead of pissing your pants and getting killed, pull your own guns out and shoot back. and if everyone doesnt have a gun then............. I mean if more ppl had guns on them when this happened, im sure one of those fitty dead woulda had the balls to shoot back and kill the perp. I mean wouldnt it be like castle law or self-defence to kill a mass murderer with your own gun? Really? You're going there? The shooter was really far away in an hotel on the 32nd floor, so even assuming people had guns (I'm pretty sure even America doesn't allow guns on concerts) you really think they could have taken the shot? hmmmm didnt read about it being a sniper attack like that other time.... I thought he as on the ground. and I was talking about ..... well in general, like the last one or the one before that..... killing sprees are kinda common now ne? Nope. Take a look here: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooting-what-we-know/index.html I'm not sure about the general situation. I don't live in America. I did read that the guy who did this legaly bought guns but illegally modded them in an automatic weapon. Nah. What he used for automatic fire was a bump stock and purchasing one is perfectly legal wherever he bought it. http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/news/a28479/vegas-shooter-bump-stock/ Yeah, you're right. Just did some reading and damn that's nuts, apparently you can just buy that stuff in a walmart from all places. you can make one at home based on the design, thats why is not forbidden, and it doesnt change the gun itself. hey whats up with the cnn link, of all places in the web the first time i see it mentioned in these times is in this forum, you guys like, 10 year old kids or something? just asking. You're still making it easier for someone to mod their gun by selling it in a supermarket. That article easily shows how the attack happened and some other facts about it. What's wrong with showing that to someone who doesn't know everything about it? |
Oct 4, 2017 10:14 PM
#175
EriitoSenshi said: isekai said: not enough guns out on the public to keep USA safe even babies should carry guns next time for them to defend themselves /s How about maybe completely abolish the right for a citizen to have a gun? Take my wonderful country Canada for example, where we're not allowed to own guns, and compare the gun violence in both countries and see which law is better here. On top of that your argument is illogical, the shooter was shooting from around the 30th floor of a hotel. Not like a guy with a gun would be able to spot and kill him.... you miss my /s there and it means sarcasm |
Oct 4, 2017 10:15 PM
#176
isekai said: EriitoSenshi said: isekai said: not enough guns out on the public to keep USA safe even babies should carry guns next time for them to defend themselves /s How about maybe completely abolish the right for a citizen to have a gun? Take my wonderful country Canada for example, where we're not allowed to own guns, and compare the gun violence in both countries and see which law is better here. On top of that your argument is illogical, the shooter was shooting from around the 30th floor of a hotel. Not like a guy with a gun would be able to spot and kill him.... you miss my /s there and it means sarcasm You, my friend, are a great person. :) |
Oct 5, 2017 7:11 AM
#177
Drunk_Samurai said: AvaG said: Drunk_Samurai said: Literally no civilian even needs full auto. Anything related to full auto should be automatically illegal. For that matter semi auto too. The most I could see a person needing would be a three shot if they're a shit shot while hunting deer or other animals. yeah the only way to avoid situations like this one is banning all semi-auto weapons, wich is totally unrealistic. also, it would not ban evil :p It doesn't matter if it's unrealistic or not. Tell me why ANY civilian would actually need them. oh, i see.. i can see you are special, a very nice and special person. oh no dont you worry, guns will be banned, there are people looking into it right now, and once they do it, all criminals and all the bad people will not have them too, they will get rid of them, when they see it written in a piece of paper, i promisse you. they are also looking in how to ask everyone in the world to just be nice to each other, we are sure to accomplish that in a near time dear, you can rest your pretty head now, all will be fine :) |
Oct 5, 2017 7:16 AM
#178
EriitoSenshi said: isekai said: not enough guns out on the public to keep USA safe even babies should carry guns next time for them to defend themselves /s How about maybe completely abolish the right for a citizen to have a gun? Take my wonderful country Canada for example, where we're not allowed to own guns, and compare the gun violence in both countries and see which law is better here. On top of that your argument is illogical, the shooter was shooting from around the 30th floor of a hotel. Not like a guy with a gun would be able to spot and kill him.... Canadians can own guns you know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMBFB6-_ALc Skallagrim is a Canadian, and has plenty of guns. It's just more regulated. (I suggest watching the video, because there is a fucking llama in it lol). |
Oct 5, 2017 7:45 AM
#179
I came back to this thread just to say I learned more about the "official" story and it doesn't really sit well with me. So many conspiracy theories at this point it's kind of hard to know if we will ever understand the truth on the situation. |
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Oct 5, 2017 7:56 AM
#180
AvaG said: oh, i see.. i can see you are special, a very nice and special person. oh no dont you worry, guns will be banned, there are people looking into it right now, and once they do it, all criminals and all the bad people will not have them too, they will get rid of them, when they see it written in a piece of paper, i promisse you. they are also looking in how to ask everyone in the world to just be nice to each other, we are sure to accomplish that in a near time dear, you can rest your pretty head now, all will be fine :) HEY! I'm special too! Like, way more special! I totally deserve a hug! Like, the world is all just mean an stuff to me too! Please hold me gently! ;_; |
Oct 5, 2017 8:03 AM
#181
Soverign said: AvaG said: oh, i see.. i can see you are special, a very nice and special person. oh no dont you worry, guns will be banned, there are people looking into it right now, and once they do it, all criminals and all the bad people will not have them too, they will get rid of them, when they see it written in a piece of paper, i promisse you. they are also looking in how to ask everyone in the world to just be nice to each other, we are sure to accomplish that in a near time dear, you can rest your pretty head now, all will be fine :) HEY! I'm special too! Like, way more special! I totally deserve a hug! Like, the world is all just mean an stuff to me too! Please hold me gently! ;_; there there, i shall hug you too then, my special friend, dont you worry :D |
Oct 5, 2017 8:07 AM
#182
AvaG said: Soverign said: AvaG said: oh, i see.. i can see you are special, a very nice and special person. oh no dont you worry, guns will be banned, there are people looking into it right now, and once they do it, all criminals and all the bad people will not have them too, they will get rid of them, when they see it written in a piece of paper, i promisse you. they are also looking in how to ask everyone in the world to just be nice to each other, we are sure to accomplish that in a near time dear, you can rest your pretty head now, all will be fine :) HEY! I'm special too! Like, way more special! I totally deserve a hug! Like, the world is all just mean an stuff to me too! Please hold me gently! ;_; there there, i shall hug you too then, my special friend, dont you worry :D Thank you so much. I mean, like, normally I wouldn't just ask. But, like, I have this serious medical condition, of like, I will die if I don't get serious hugs. Like, all the time. So, like, it was an emergency you see! You are a life saver! :D |
Oct 5, 2017 8:30 AM
#183
Zelev said: I came back to this thread just to say I learned more about the "official" story and it doesn't really sit well with me. So many conspiracy theories at this point it's kind of hard to know if we will ever understand the truth on the situation. --> claiming to have learned something revealing about the true story that proves it is likely a conspiracy, doesn't mention what you've learned or linking to any news about it, thus rendering the comment meaningless. Tinfoil hat 101 |
Oct 5, 2017 9:01 AM
#184
Fijure said: Zelev said: I came back to this thread just to say I learned more about the "official" story and it doesn't really sit well with me. So many conspiracy theories at this point it's kind of hard to know if we will ever understand the truth on the situation. --> claiming to have learned something revealing about the true story that proves it is likely a conspiracy, doesn't mention what you've learned or linking to any news about it, thus rendering the comment meaningless. Tinfoil hat 101 Assuming some of the official statements are being compared to eyewitness testimony, it's easy to say that eyewitnesses aren't always a hundred percent reliable, especially in times of turmoil and panic, it's easy for someone to recollect something differently in the midst of trauma. The problem with shootings like this is that there are thousands of eyewitnesses and no one with the consistently "same" story through and through. So people should believe what they want to believe off the basis of a mixture of various stories and sources. |
Oct 5, 2017 12:48 PM
#185
Fucking awful situation. But an evil guy just killed others then himself. Not much to speculate about. Better to not give attention to him and to focus on the victims and the family, as with all these kinds of things. Otherwise, someone else will want to be immortalized. |
Oct 5, 2017 1:54 PM
#186
It's disconcerting to see the BBC update its news article. Last night, 20 dead and around 200 injured. Today? 59 dead and 520+ injured and who knows to what degree that casualty count will gradually rise. We really hope the killer's motive is uncovered especially considering that IS does what they usually do after a terror incident- publicly admitting their involvement in this horrible massacre that ended the lives of those who simply wanted to enjoy Country Music. I hope the Trump administration does something about this, regulating gun control won't prevent terror attacks completely though I hope he sees through the light of the situation. |
Oct 5, 2017 3:15 PM
#187
Fijure said: Zelev said: I came back to this thread just to say I learned more about the "official" story and it doesn't really sit well with me. So many conspiracy theories at this point it's kind of hard to know if we will ever understand the truth on the situation. --> claiming to have learned something revealing about the true story that proves it is likely a conspiracy, doesn't mention what you've learned or linking to any news about it, thus rendering the comment meaningless. Tinfoil hat 101 Do you have social media... like at all? It was everywhere for days. Many videos on youtube of a second gunman around the 4th floor, the suspicous lack of video from inside the hotel, how he managed to carry all that up without anyone questioning it, etc. |
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Oct 5, 2017 3:23 PM
#188
The tinfoil crew is out in full force, I see. The shooter was on the 19th floor. Started after 9pm. 59 dead. 999. 666. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
Oct 5, 2017 3:45 PM
#189
Zelev said: Fijure said: Zelev said: I came back to this thread just to say I learned more about the "official" story and it doesn't really sit well with me. So many conspiracy theories at this point it's kind of hard to know if we will ever understand the truth on the situation. --> claiming to have learned something revealing about the true story that proves it is likely a conspiracy, doesn't mention what you've learned or linking to any news about it, thus rendering the comment meaningless. Tinfoil hat 101 Do you have social media... like at all? It was everywhere for days. Many videos on youtube of a second gunman around the 4th floor, the suspicous lack of video from inside the hotel, how he managed to carry all that up without anyone questioning it, etc. You know he doesn't have to bring all that stuff at one time Maybe he made a couple of trips. I argue that some high profile celebrities or anyone really would bring even more baggage without anyone batting an eye. It is suspicious to you only with hindsight |
Oct 5, 2017 3:51 PM
#190
zzzeally said: Zelev said: Fijure said: Zelev said: I came back to this thread just to say I learned more about the "official" story and it doesn't really sit well with me. So many conspiracy theories at this point it's kind of hard to know if we will ever understand the truth on the situation. --> claiming to have learned something revealing about the true story that proves it is likely a conspiracy, doesn't mention what you've learned or linking to any news about it, thus rendering the comment meaningless. Tinfoil hat 101 Do you have social media... like at all? It was everywhere for days. Many videos on youtube of a second gunman around the 4th floor, the suspicous lack of video from inside the hotel, how he managed to carry all that up without anyone questioning it, etc. You know he doesn't have to bring all that stuff at one time Maybe he made a couple of trips. I argue that some high profile celebrities or anyone really would bring even more baggage without anyone batting an eye. It is suspicious to you only with hindsight I like how you neglected to answer the other two things I listed there. |
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Oct 5, 2017 4:05 PM
#191
Zelev said: zzzeally said: Zelev said: Fijure said: Zelev said: I came back to this thread just to say I learned more about the "official" story and it doesn't really sit well with me. So many conspiracy theories at this point it's kind of hard to know if we will ever understand the truth on the situation. --> claiming to have learned something revealing about the true story that proves it is likely a conspiracy, doesn't mention what you've learned or linking to any news about it, thus rendering the comment meaningless. Tinfoil hat 101 Do you have social media... like at all? It was everywhere for days. Many videos on youtube of a second gunman around the 4th floor, the suspicous lack of video from inside the hotel, how he managed to carry all that up without anyone questioning it, etc. You know he doesn't have to bring all that stuff at one time Maybe he made a couple of trips. I argue that some high profile celebrities or anyone really would bring even more baggage without anyone batting an eye. It is suspicious to you only with hindsight I like how you neglected to answer the other two things I listed there. Bc I don't believe in conspiracies At least not in this case Maybe there will be more surveillance video released at a later date bc the case is still fresh and on going |
Oct 5, 2017 4:25 PM
#192
zzzeally said: Zelev said: zzzeally said: Zelev said: Fijure said: Zelev said: I came back to this thread just to say I learned more about the "official" story and it doesn't really sit well with me. So many conspiracy theories at this point it's kind of hard to know if we will ever understand the truth on the situation. --> claiming to have learned something revealing about the true story that proves it is likely a conspiracy, doesn't mention what you've learned or linking to any news about it, thus rendering the comment meaningless. Tinfoil hat 101 Do you have social media... like at all? It was everywhere for days. Many videos on youtube of a second gunman around the 4th floor, the suspicous lack of video from inside the hotel, how he managed to carry all that up without anyone questioning it, etc. You know he doesn't have to bring all that stuff at one time Maybe he made a couple of trips. I argue that some high profile celebrities or anyone really would bring even more baggage without anyone batting an eye. It is suspicious to you only with hindsight I like how you neglected to answer the other two things I listed there. Bc I don't believe in conspiracies At least not in this case Maybe there will be more surveillance video released at a later date bc the case is still fresh and on going You think conspiracies don't happen? Lol... define conspiracy, dude. Or do you believe everything you're told by the media and government? |
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Oct 5, 2017 7:06 PM
#193
AvaG said: Drunk_Samurai said: AvaG said: Drunk_Samurai said: Literally no civilian even needs full auto. Anything related to full auto should be automatically illegal. For that matter semi auto too. The most I could see a person needing would be a three shot if they're a shit shot while hunting deer or other animals. yeah the only way to avoid situations like this one is banning all semi-auto weapons, wich is totally unrealistic. also, it would not ban evil :p It doesn't matter if it's unrealistic or not. Tell me why ANY civilian would actually need them. oh, i see.. i can see you are special, a very nice and special person. oh no dont you worry, guns will be banned, there are people looking into it right now, and once they do it, all criminals and all the bad people will not have them too, they will get rid of them, when they see it written in a piece of paper, i promisse you. they are also looking in how to ask everyone in the world to just be nice to each other, we are sure to accomplish that in a near time dear, you can rest your pretty head now, all will be fine :) That trolling was so terrible I think you gave me every form of cancer. Zelev said: zzzeally said: Zelev said: zzzeally said: Zelev said: Fijure said: Zelev said: I came back to this thread just to say I learned more about the "official" story and it doesn't really sit well with me. So many conspiracy theories at this point it's kind of hard to know if we will ever understand the truth on the situation. --> claiming to have learned something revealing about the true story that proves it is likely a conspiracy, doesn't mention what you've learned or linking to any news about it, thus rendering the comment meaningless. Tinfoil hat 101 Do you have social media... like at all? It was everywhere for days. Many videos on youtube of a second gunman around the 4th floor, the suspicous lack of video from inside the hotel, how he managed to carry all that up without anyone questioning it, etc. You know he doesn't have to bring all that stuff at one time Maybe he made a couple of trips. I argue that some high profile celebrities or anyone really would bring even more baggage without anyone batting an eye. It is suspicious to you only with hindsight I like how you neglected to answer the other two things I listed there. Bc I don't believe in conspiracies At least not in this case Maybe there will be more surveillance video released at a later date bc the case is still fresh and on going You think conspiracies don't happen? Lol... define conspiracy, dude. Or do you believe everything you're told by the media and government? So what brand of tinfoil do you make your hats from? |
Oct 5, 2017 7:16 PM
#194
only time full auto would be needed would literally be in a goddamn combat situation and last I checked the US isn't gonna be turning into the walking dead anytime soon so yes perhaps there should be much heavier restrictions on auto weapons because the normal US citizen is clearly too retarded or crazed to be able to handle one, foreal then again owning a gun that's larger or more powerful than a hunting rifle is pretty much useless and raises the question: what the fuck do you need that shit for??? self defense my ass, they make smaller guns for that. |
Oct 5, 2017 8:34 PM
#195
I guess I'm the only one who's shocked that *only* 59 were killed. To me it's a miracle, given the volume he laid down on a highly concentrated crowd and their delayed reaction. I'm almost tempted to estimate the total volley from the vids but multiple weapons and garbled audio make it hard. I wonder what was written on that paper in the pics. |
Oct 5, 2017 8:48 PM
#196
spuukiebuugi said: only time full auto would be needed would literally be in a goddamn combat situation and last I checked the US isn't gonna be turning into the walking dead anytime soon so yes perhaps there should be much heavier restrictions on auto weapons because the normal US citizen is clearly too retarded or crazed to be able to handle one, foreal then again owning a gun that's larger or more powerful than a hunting rifle is pretty much useless and raises the question: what the fuck do you need that shit for??? self defense my ass, they make smaller guns for that. Yes. That's been my point the entire time. A civilian wouldn't even need semi auto. |
Oct 5, 2017 9:01 PM
#197
Drunk_Samurai said: AvaG said: Drunk_Samurai said: AvaG said: Drunk_Samurai said: Literally no civilian even needs full auto. Anything related to full auto should be automatically illegal. For that matter semi auto too. The most I could see a person needing would be a three shot if they're a shit shot while hunting deer or other animals. yeah the only way to avoid situations like this one is banning all semi-auto weapons, wich is totally unrealistic. also, it would not ban evil :p It doesn't matter if it's unrealistic or not. Tell me why ANY civilian would actually need them. oh, i see.. i can see you are special, a very nice and special person. oh no dont you worry, guns will be banned, there are people looking into it right now, and once they do it, all criminals and all the bad people will not have them too, they will get rid of them, when they see it written in a piece of paper, i promisse you. they are also looking in how to ask everyone in the world to just be nice to each other, we are sure to accomplish that in a near time dear, you can rest your pretty head now, all will be fine :) That trolling was so terrible I think you gave me every form of cancer. Zelev said: zzzeally said: Zelev said: zzzeally said: Zelev said: Fijure said: Zelev said: I came back to this thread just to say I learned more about the "official" story and it doesn't really sit well with me. So many conspiracy theories at this point it's kind of hard to know if we will ever understand the truth on the situation. --> claiming to have learned something revealing about the true story that proves it is likely a conspiracy, doesn't mention what you've learned or linking to any news about it, thus rendering the comment meaningless. Tinfoil hat 101 Do you have social media... like at all? It was everywhere for days. Many videos on youtube of a second gunman around the 4th floor, the suspicous lack of video from inside the hotel, how he managed to carry all that up without anyone questioning it, etc. You know he doesn't have to bring all that stuff at one time Maybe he made a couple of trips. I argue that some high profile celebrities or anyone really would bring even more baggage without anyone batting an eye. It is suspicious to you only with hindsight I like how you neglected to answer the other two things I listed there. Bc I don't believe in conspiracies At least not in this case Maybe there will be more surveillance video released at a later date bc the case is still fresh and on going You think conspiracies don't happen? Lol... define conspiracy, dude. Or do you believe everything you're told by the media and government? So what brand of tinfoil do you make your hats from? Coming from the guy that believes whatever the EPA tells him LOL |
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Oct 5, 2017 9:15 PM
#198
Zelev said: Drunk_Samurai said: AvaG said: Drunk_Samurai said: AvaG said: Drunk_Samurai said: Literally no civilian even needs full auto. Anything related to full auto should be automatically illegal. For that matter semi auto too. The most I could see a person needing would be a three shot if they're a shit shot while hunting deer or other animals. yeah the only way to avoid situations like this one is banning all semi-auto weapons, wich is totally unrealistic. also, it would not ban evil :p It doesn't matter if it's unrealistic or not. Tell me why ANY civilian would actually need them. oh, i see.. i can see you are special, a very nice and special person. oh no dont you worry, guns will be banned, there are people looking into it right now, and once they do it, all criminals and all the bad people will not have them too, they will get rid of them, when they see it written in a piece of paper, i promisse you. they are also looking in how to ask everyone in the world to just be nice to each other, we are sure to accomplish that in a near time dear, you can rest your pretty head now, all will be fine :) That trolling was so terrible I think you gave me every form of cancer. Zelev said: zzzeally said: Zelev said: zzzeally said: Zelev said: Fijure said: Zelev said: I came back to this thread just to say I learned more about the "official" story and it doesn't really sit well with me. So many conspiracy theories at this point it's kind of hard to know if we will ever understand the truth on the situation. --> claiming to have learned something revealing about the true story that proves it is likely a conspiracy, doesn't mention what you've learned or linking to any news about it, thus rendering the comment meaningless. Tinfoil hat 101 Do you have social media... like at all? It was everywhere for days. Many videos on youtube of a second gunman around the 4th floor, the suspicous lack of video from inside the hotel, how he managed to carry all that up without anyone questioning it, etc. You know he doesn't have to bring all that stuff at one time Maybe he made a couple of trips. I argue that some high profile celebrities or anyone really would bring even more baggage without anyone batting an eye. It is suspicious to you only with hindsight I like how you neglected to answer the other two things I listed there. Bc I don't believe in conspiracies At least not in this case Maybe there will be more surveillance video released at a later date bc the case is still fresh and on going You think conspiracies don't happen? Lol... define conspiracy, dude. Or do you believe everything you're told by the media and government? So what brand of tinfoil do you make your hats from? Coming from the guy that believes whatever the EPA tells him LOL Oh this is funny. "Youtube is my source for information" |
Oct 5, 2017 10:19 PM
#199
Drunk_Samurai said: Zelev said: Drunk_Samurai said: AvaG said: Drunk_Samurai said: AvaG said: Drunk_Samurai said: Literally no civilian even needs full auto. Anything related to full auto should be automatically illegal. For that matter semi auto too. The most I could see a person needing would be a three shot if they're a shit shot while hunting deer or other animals. yeah the only way to avoid situations like this one is banning all semi-auto weapons, wich is totally unrealistic. also, it would not ban evil :p It doesn't matter if it's unrealistic or not. Tell me why ANY civilian would actually need them. oh, i see.. i can see you are special, a very nice and special person. oh no dont you worry, guns will be banned, there are people looking into it right now, and once they do it, all criminals and all the bad people will not have them too, they will get rid of them, when they see it written in a piece of paper, i promisse you. they are also looking in how to ask everyone in the world to just be nice to each other, we are sure to accomplish that in a near time dear, you can rest your pretty head now, all will be fine :) That trolling was so terrible I think you gave me every form of cancer. Zelev said: zzzeally said: Zelev said: zzzeally said: Zelev said: Fijure said: Zelev said: I came back to this thread just to say I learned more about the "official" story and it doesn't really sit well with me. So many conspiracy theories at this point it's kind of hard to know if we will ever understand the truth on the situation. --> claiming to have learned something revealing about the true story that proves it is likely a conspiracy, doesn't mention what you've learned or linking to any news about it, thus rendering the comment meaningless. Tinfoil hat 101 Do you have social media... like at all? It was everywhere for days. Many videos on youtube of a second gunman around the 4th floor, the suspicous lack of video from inside the hotel, how he managed to carry all that up without anyone questioning it, etc. You know he doesn't have to bring all that stuff at one time Maybe he made a couple of trips. I argue that some high profile celebrities or anyone really would bring even more baggage without anyone batting an eye. It is suspicious to you only with hindsight I like how you neglected to answer the other two things I listed there. Bc I don't believe in conspiracies At least not in this case Maybe there will be more surveillance video released at a later date bc the case is still fresh and on going You think conspiracies don't happen? Lol... define conspiracy, dude. Or do you believe everything you're told by the media and government? So what brand of tinfoil do you make your hats from? Coming from the guy that believes whatever the EPA tells him LOL Oh this is funny. "Youtube is my source for information" No, dipshit. I referred to Youtube for the second gunman. The other things I listed are common sense that anyone can think of. Edit: Check this video out... multiple gunmen: https://www.facebook.com/rikki.raulerson/videos/pcb.1677587885598408/1677581905599006/?type=3&theater. Also, if you look at the poster's timeline, she has pictures of multiple people saying there were multiple shooters at multiple hotels, but the media stopped reporting on it quickly. |
ZelevOct 6, 2017 10:55 AM
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Oct 5, 2017 10:53 PM
#200
If there were a second shooter there would have been a lot more than 59 dead, WAY more overlapping gunfire, a broken window (they don't open), and muzzle flashes that actually match the cracks. *Bump stock* all day long today, but I think the most interesting news is Paddock's moaning and screaming in his sleep. |
DouluoOct 5, 2017 10:57 PM
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