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Sep 28, 2010 10:25 AM
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my freind was accused of raping somone I dont know the full detials but I dont belive the pices fit.

What so you do if you get one person telling they have been raped by a freind, and the other said they did'nt do it.

Both are really good feind og mine but now everything is messed up I just want to help resloves this so there no trouble.

gimme all your adive guys thanbks

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Sep 28, 2010 10:41 AM
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Flee the country

Sep 28, 2010 10:45 AM
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if he really is innocent then he should show evidences to prove himself not guilty.

then hire a lawyer.
Sep 28, 2010 10:46 AM
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don't people usually have a death note for this kind of thing?
Sep 28, 2010 10:52 AM
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seriously... when it comes to sex crimes, most americans WAY overreact (some sex crimes have sentences almost as heavy as murder)... and you are immediately considered guilty by people before being proven innocent. in the end your reputation is ruined regardless, people could care less if you didn't do it in the end, all it takes is that association. I would seriously advise getting the hell out of the area, if the cops try to stage a trial or something because they actually get enough evidence to press charges... maybe try to get a non-local jury....

With any form of sex crime, you are now a sex offender and a felon... and suddenly you will find you cannot get a job anywhere for anything but construction and temp work for the rest of you life. you are seriously better off in a totally different region...

fact of the matter is, a great way to ruin a man is to pull this kinda crap.
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dillian said:
if he really is innocent then he should show evidences to prove himself not guilty.

then hire a lawyer.


exactly.

This is what i said but in the end it means you can never escape the stigma which is a shame.

Gunther_ said:
Flee the country


that just shows you're guilty by running. right?


besides I was more hoping that they would end up realisint they are made of dumb piles of excroment from my anus rather than intelligent matierial worth using.


Of soucre they are not so oh well.

Dumb people will be dumb.

More opinins guys. Please . I want all the senarios.
Sep 28, 2010 10:52 AM
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don't people usually have a death note for this kind of thing?


oh yeah !!!!!1
Sep 28, 2010 1:09 PM
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your making a mistake if you get involved in this, let it sort itself out.
Sep 28, 2010 1:14 PM
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Alpha-kudasu said:
Crona said:
don't people usually have a death note for this kind of thing?


oh yeah !!!!!1


Or a green light on the accuser.

If you don't got that kind of power flee the area, there's nothing you can do but let things sort it self out while you are safe and far away.


Sep 28, 2010 1:38 PM

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Alpha-kudasu said:
my freind was accused of raping somone I dont know the full detials but I dont belive the pices fit.

What so you do if you get one person telling they have been raped by a freind, and the other said they did'nt do it.

Both are really good feind og mine but now everything is messed up I just want to help resloves this so there no trouble.

gimme all your adive guys thanbks

Alpha



First of all learn typing so people actually get what you're talking about.


Besides that I'd tell the friend to rape her for real, if he's accused of it anyway :P
I probably regret this post by now.
Sep 28, 2010 1:48 PM

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I was in your exact situation, basically you're gonna lose a friend, The two people will never hang out together again and it will split your group of friends. There really is nothing you can do. Just ride it out. If you pick one to support the other will hate you.
Sep 28, 2010 1:59 PM

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You need to hire a lawyer and whatever you do, do not cooperate with the police such as using the lie detector. You should also understand that you have your rights as well and will only answer with your lawyer.

In rape cases, they usually need solid evidence such as bodily fluids in the female and perhaps injuries during the rape (like bruises, etc...)

If you can just provide more information
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idk DNA? proof? resolved?
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Sep 28, 2010 3:16 PM

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MelbShaw said:
idk DNA? proof? resolved?


DNA can be tampered with.


Sep 28, 2010 3:29 PM

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Shit, I don't know, I guess I'd deny....

Thank God I live in the U.S (Innocent until proven Guilty)

Japan: (Guilty until proven Innocent, at least in this area)
Sep 28, 2010 3:36 PM

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alexcampos said:
Shit, I don't know, I guess I'd deny....

Thank God I live in the U.S (Innocent until proven Guilty)

Japan: (Guilty until proven Innocent, at least in this area)


U.S are strict though
Sep 28, 2010 3:36 PM

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Ask advice from people more qualified than random strangers who write on forums.
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MelbShaw said:
idk DNA? proof? resolved?


You should watch Pen and Teller's Bullshit: Criminal Justice.

There is an innocent man who had DNA evidence on his side who was convicted guilty.
Sep 28, 2010 4:14 PM

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Laugh, because that wouldn't happen.
Sep 28, 2010 5:13 PM

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well its simple... either one friend is a jerk who rapes people, or the other is a jerk who accuses people... or their both jerks who both wrong'ed the other



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Sep 28, 2010 5:32 PM

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alexcampos said:
Shit, I don't know, I guess I'd deny....

Thank God I live in the U.S (Innocent until proven Guilty)

Japan: (Guilty until proven Innocent, at least in this area)

Thank God I live in Brazil (Innocent or Guilty, doesn't matter, as long as you have a good lawyer, you're safe.)
Sep 28, 2010 5:41 PM

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Tell the guy you raped her too. See how he reacts.

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Flee the country


that just shows you're guilty by running. right?

No. I can't remember where I read it but there was news of a guy that got sentence to jail for rape. After 3 years later the girl came back and confessed that she was lying, she wasn't raped, she only wanted attention. Seriously, even if they guy is innocent, once it gets to court 9 times out of 10 the guy will be guilty even if he didn't do it. You're better of leaving the country.
Sep 28, 2010 6:37 PM

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Crona said:
don't people usually have a death note for this kind of thing?

I would high five you if I could.
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Sep 28, 2010 7:04 PM

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question witnesses, medical examination with reliable dna test of both parties and of course a good lawyer
Sep 28, 2010 7:13 PM

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Do nothing. burden of proof is on the accuser. If there was no rape there will be no evidence. You're innocent until proven guilty and court isn't about the truth, only what you can prove.
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Sep 28, 2010 8:04 PM

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Medical examination is the best way and if it was reported within 24hr. After that there's not much but she said, he said.
Sep 28, 2010 8:05 PM

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Like others have said, accused means shit unless they have evidence. Innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around. If it operated the other way, might as well move back to the Dark Ages where they burned witches for retarded reasons.
Sep 28, 2010 8:12 PM

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crayon589mewsm04 said:
alexcampos said:
Shit, I don't know, I guess I'd deny....

Thank God I live in the U.S (Innocent until proven Guilty)

Japan: (Guilty until proven Innocent, at least in this area)


U.S are strict though
What are you talking about. When a man is accused of raping a woman, he is guilty until proven innocent.
Sep 28, 2010 8:17 PM

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Denis-Sama said:
crayon589mewsm04 said:
alexcampos said:
Shit, I don't know, I guess I'd deny....

Thank God I live in the U.S (Innocent until proven Guilty)

Japan: (Guilty until proven Innocent, at least in this area)


U.S are strict though
What are you talking about. When a man is accused of raping a woman, he is guilty until proven innocent.

It still ruins your life. Just look what it did to those Duke lacrosse players. They were found innocent, but their life was essentially ruined by being accused of rape. Sometimes I really hate the USA in this regard.

Sep 28, 2010 8:18 PM

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Lie and say you're a virgin.




Sep 28, 2010 8:24 PM

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Denis-Sama said:
crayon589mewsm04 said:
alexcampos said:
Shit, I don't know, I guess I'd deny....

Thank God I live in the U.S (Innocent until proven Guilty)

Japan: (Guilty until proven Innocent, at least in this area)


U.S are strict though
What are you talking about. When a man is accused of raping a woman, he is guilty until proven innocent.


Well, the U.S still tries to be fair and there has to be a lot of proof to prove rape.

In Japan, if you even TOUCH a girl, you're fucked.

(Note, all articles are from the same site which is NSFW)

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/07/04/police-chikan-guilty-until-proven-innocent/

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/05/07/lynched-chikan-commits-suicide/

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/04/21/i-watched-a-mans-life-end-on-the-train-today/

Just read the articles, horrible gold digging women in Japan falsely accuse men all the time, most of the time the men lose the case even if they are innocent, trust me THIS doesn't happen in the U.S.
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alexcampos said:
Denis-Sama said:
crayon589mewsm04 said:
alexcampos said:
Shit, I don't know, I guess I'd deny....

Thank God I live in the U.S (Innocent until proven Guilty)

Japan: (Guilty until proven Innocent, at least in this area)


U.S are strict though
What are you talking about. When a man is accused of raping a woman, he is guilty until proven innocent.


Well, the U.S still tries to be fair and there has to be a lot of proof to prove rape.

In Japan, if you even TOUCH a girl, you're fucked.

(Note, all articles are from the same site which is NSFW)

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/07/04/police-chikan-guilty-until-proven-innocent/

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/05/07/lynched-chikan-commits-suicide/

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/04/21/i-watched-a-mans-life-end-on-the-train-today/

Just read the articles, horrible gold digging women in Japan falsely accuse men all the time, most of the time the men lose the case even if they are innocent, trust me THIS doesn't happen in the U.S.

no you faggot
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you just need to say rape here and your fucked, even if there evidence of the contrary
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alexcampos said:
Denis-Sama said:
crayon589mewsm04 said:
alexcampos said:
Shit, I don't know, I guess I'd deny....

Thank God I live in the U.S (Innocent until proven Guilty)

Japan: (Guilty until proven Innocent, at least in this area)


U.S are strict though
What are you talking about. When a man is accused of raping a woman, he is guilty until proven innocent.


Well, the U.S still tries to be fair and there has to be a lot of proof to prove rape.

In Japan, if you even TOUCH a girl, you're fucked.

(Note, all articles are from the same site which is NSFW)

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/07/04/police-chikan-guilty-until-proven-innocent/

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/05/07/lynched-chikan-commits-suicide/

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/04/21/i-watched-a-mans-life-end-on-the-train-today/

Just read the articles, horrible gold digging women in Japan falsely accuse men all the time, most of the time the men lose the case even if they are innocent, trust me THIS doesn't happen in the U.S.


I heard about something similar a year ago, it's insanity at it's worse.

Japanese women are getting desperate for extra money so guys when going to Japan, don't go for the RL women and instead go to (insert anime shop here) and pick up a hentai or two. It'll save you from instant prosecution.


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Hoppy said:
MelbShaw said:
idk DNA? proof? resolved?


DNA can be tampered with.


by those two people? eh
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Gunther_ said:
Denis-Sama said:
crayon589mewsm04 said:
alexcampos said:
Shit, I don't know, I guess I'd deny....

Thank God I live in the U.S (Innocent until proven Guilty)

Japan: (Guilty until proven Innocent, at least in this area)


U.S are strict though
What are you talking about. When a man is accused of raping a woman, he is guilty until proven innocent.

It still ruins your life. Just look what it did to those Duke lacrosse players. They were found innocent, but their life was essentially ruined by being accused of rape. Sometimes I really hate the USA in this regard.
Oh, hell yeah dude. Nobody cares if you were found innocent because women never lie. Especially about rape. RAPE IS NO MATTER TO LIE ABOUT.

Lol.
Sep 28, 2010 8:58 PM

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Denis-Sama said:
Gunther_ said:
Denis-Sama said:
crayon589mewsm04 said:
alexcampos said:
Shit, I don't know, I guess I'd deny....

Thank God I live in the U.S (Innocent until proven Guilty)

Japan: (Guilty until proven Innocent, at least in this area)


U.S are strict though
What are you talking about. When a man is accused of raping a woman, he is guilty until proven innocent.

It still ruins your life. Just look what it did to those Duke lacrosse players. They were found innocent, but their life was essentially ruined by being accused of rape. Sometimes I really hate the USA in this regard.
Oh, hell yeah dude. Nobody cares if you were found innocent because women never lie. Especially about rape. RAPE IS NO MATTER TO LIE ABOUT.

Lol.

Were you not around when this was in the news are what? These boys were falsely accused and it fucked their lives up pretty badly. Just being accused of rape is bad enough, even if you are innocent.

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Gunther_ said:
Denis-Sama said:
Gunther_ said:
Denis-Sama said:
crayon589mewsm04 said:
alexcampos said:
Shit, I don't know, I guess I'd deny....

Thank God I live in the U.S (Innocent until proven Guilty)

Japan: (Guilty until proven Innocent, at least in this area)


U.S are strict though
What are you talking about. When a man is accused of raping a woman, he is guilty until proven innocent.

It still ruins your life. Just look what it did to those Duke lacrosse players. They were found innocent, but their life was essentially ruined by being accused of rape. Sometimes I really hate the USA in this regard.
Oh, hell yeah dude. Nobody cares if you were found innocent because women never lie. Especially about rape. RAPE IS NO MATTER TO LIE ABOUT.

Lol.

Were you not around when this was in the news are what? These boys were falsely accused and it fucked their lives up pretty badly. Just being accused of rape is bad enough, even if you are innocent.
I know. I'm just being a sarcastic ass. Our legal system is extremely fucked up and biased towards women.
Sep 28, 2010 10:10 PM

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dillian said:
if he really is innocent then he should show evidences to prove himself not guilty.

then hire a lawyer.


So according do you the law should act of guilty until proved innocent than the other way around.

The one accusing should be the one finding evidence. Your logic is messed up.
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Monad said:
dillian said:
if he really is innocent then he should show evidences to prove himself not guilty.

then hire a lawyer.


So according do you the law should act of guilty until proved innocent than the other way around.

The one accusing should be the one finding evidence. Your logic is messed up.


As Jigero said, it's on the prosecution to gather evidence to put him away, if these friends of his had sex and she decides afterwards that it's rape then it's going to be a fun time in court.
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/01/15/false-rape-accusation-awareness-steps-toward-understanding-and-avoiding/
That's a pretty nice article on it.
But aye, if he's innocent and she's taking this to the police: hire a great lawyer who's fought these sorts of cases before, try to find any evidence of them saying it was consensual, e.g. texts / emails / conversation logs.
If they didn't have sex and haven't fought at all then it's going to be a lot easier on him, due to the lack of bodily evidence, but at the end of the day, it won't be resolved without trouble considering the severity of this.
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Crona said:
don't people usually have a death note for this kind of thing?


yeah, they usually have, but sometimes they lose it, like me :p could I get new one, pleeeaase? xD
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alexcampos said:
Shit, I don't know, I guess I'd deny....

Thank God I live in the U.S (Innocent until proven Guilty)

Japan: (Guilty until proven Innocent, at least in this area)
Oh lulz, in theory maybe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_case

Maybe you should read about this incident, really fascinating, a drunk chick steps forward, accuses four men of raping her basically without any evidence at all and the entire press and the country believe her until her story slowly starts to disintegrate.
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Oh lulz, in theory maybe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_case

Maybe you should read about this incident, really fascinating, a drunk chick steps forward, accuses four men of raping her basically without any evidence at all and the entire press and the country believe her until her story slowly starts to disintegrate.


I remember that case very clearly, I'm a big sports fan, and I remember hearing about the details on ESPN and CNN.

I will say that that is a very special case which involved many details you didn't point out for example:

The "drunk chick" was a lower class African American

The Duke Lacrosse team featured an ALL-WHITE team (I think, I'm not 100% sure)

North Carolina (where Duke is located) has a history of Racism and discrimination against African Americans

These guys are not squeaky clean, they invited ONE girl to a house full of drunk guys, WHAT CAN YOU GUESS MOST PEOPLE WOULD THINK???

In my opinion you're right, without any evidence they were wrongly accused.

HOWEVER, in the end they were all still Innocent until proven guilty by the courts, which later they were.

You failed to miss my point, YES they were screwed over, but ultimately they were still found INNOCENT, in Japan and many other places in the world, there's no way in HELL those guys would've been found innocent.
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I will be in panic and screwed.
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WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? I HAVEN'T EVEN TOUCHED YOU BEFORE, I MUST BE BLIND IF I RAPE YOU!ARE YOU SURE YOU DIDN'T REMEMBER WRONGLY? AND YES, I ADMIT THAT I'M VIOLENT BUT I AM NOT STUPID ENOUGH TO RAPE YOU TO GET MYSELF.... WHAT??? 2 YEARS SENTENCE TO JAIL??? DON'T ANYHOW ACCUSE JUST BECAUSE I OFFENDED YOU OR SOMETHING, FACE IT.

If the person is female:
I AM 100% STRAIGHT, I'M NOT LESBIAN OKAY? I CAN PROVE IT.
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tell them she's a virgin and make them check if her hymens in check.
that is all.

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If your friend is really innocent, look into trying to get a polygraph test done for both the accused and the accuser.

They aren't perfect and won't help too much in the court, but it is great for public appearances, especially if the accuser refuses to get it done.
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Alpha-kudasu said:
my freind was accused of raping somone I dont know the full detials but I dont belive the pices fit.

What so you do if you get one person telling they have been raped by a freind, and the other said they did'nt do it.

Both are really good feind og mine but now everything is messed up I just want to help resloves this so there no trouble.

gimme all your adive guys thanbks

Alpha



I would hate to be in your shoes. If you pick one friend you lose the other. If you try to remain a neutral you risk losing both friends.


If you were only friends of the accused then you could just tell him the following-

1. get a good lawyer and under no circumstances should he talk the police without his lawyer present. Because cops will lie their ass off about evidence,witnesses and anything else to get your to confess. It makes their job easier if you confess because then it will not matter if they lack evidence.

2. He should admit to having consensual sex with the accuser. Because if a DNA test proves he had sex with the accuser then it makes him look suspicious he said he didn't have sex with the accuser.

3.Tell him not confess to anything incriminating, again cops lie.

4. Do not give into plea bargains. A plea bargain just means they have very weak evidence or no evidence against you.They wouldn't offer the plea bargain to the accused if they had good evidence against the accused.They offer the deal because they are at least trying to walk away with something like a lesser sentence, probation,and or registering as a sex offender instead having an expensive trial and the accused getting off scott free.Just because the DA offers a plea bargain deal the accused takes the plea bargain deal, the judge can still sentence the accused to the maximum punishment under the law.

5.You could offer to testify as a character witness on your friend's behalf.





If you were only friends with the accuser(person who says she was raped) then you could tell her the following-

1. do what ever she can to prove her side is true.

2. submit to some tests to see if they can find any signs of abuse like bruising or tears, if she fought the rapist maybe some dna under the finger nails or something else.

3. you could testify on her behalf as a character witness.



MelbShaw said:
idk DNA? proof? resolved?


DNA just prove that there was sexual contact, it does not prove if the sex was consensual or rape. The only time a DNA test might do some good is if he lied about having sex with her which would make him look suspicious or like he had something to hide or that the alleged victim is under the age of sexual consent while the accused is over 18. Unless there is a video or a whole shit load of bruises on the all-edged victim
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Day2Dream said:
Tell the guy you raped her too. See how he reacts.

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Flee the country


that just shows you're guilty by running. right?

No. I can't remember where I read it but there was news of a guy that got sentence to jail for rape. After 3 years later the girl came back and confessed that she was lying, she wasn't raped, she only wanted attention. Seriously, even if they guy is innocent, once it gets to court 9 times out of 10 the guy will be guilty even if he didn't do it. You're better of leaving the country.
Moreover, does it really matter if people believe you're guilty when you're not around those people anymore? I'd wait it out, see what happens, and if things start looking bad, skip town. That is, legally. Running from the law never ends well unless you're really prepared. Sex crimes aren't a joke. You can live normally after being convicted of robbery, assault, even murder once you serve your sentence. But sex crimes? For some reason, people think they're the most heinous things you can do to a person. You'll never live it down; It'll follow you to your grave. You just have to do what you can to minimize the chaos it'll inflict upon your life.

I'll say it once more, in as plain a way as I can: run. Far away. There's no shame in doing so.

Of course, I'm assuming your friend is actually innocent. If he's guilty, may justice be delivered.
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AbstractCalamity said:
Day2Dream said:
Tell the guy you raped her too. See how he reacts.

Alpha-kudasu said:
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Flee the country


that just shows you're guilty by running. right?

No. I can't remember where I read it but there was news of a guy that got sentence to jail for rape. After 3 years later the girl came back and confessed that she was lying, she wasn't raped, she only wanted attention. Seriously, even if they guy is innocent, once it gets to court 9 times out of 10 the guy will be guilty even if he didn't do it. You're better of leaving the country.
Moreover, does it really matter if people believe you're guilty when you're not around those people anymore? I'd wait it out, see what happens, and if things start looking bad, skip town. That is, legally. Running from the law never ends well unless you're really prepared. Sex crimes aren't a joke. You can live normally after being convicted of robbery, assault, even murder once you serve your sentence. But sex crimes? For some reason, people think they're the most heinous things you can do to a person. You'll never live it down; It'll follow you to your grave. You just have to do what you can to minimize the chaos it'll inflict upon your life.

I'll say it once more, in as plain a way as I can: run. Far away. There's no shame in doing so.

Of course, I'm assuming your friend is actually innocent. If he's guilty, may justice be delivered.


Agreed get the fuck outta town if things get ugly dude. o~0
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