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Apr 5, 2024 1:13 AM
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Apr 5, 2024 1:14 AM
#2
I think western animation still takes the cake. |
Apr 5, 2024 1:40 AM
#3
Reply to Serafos
I think western animation still takes the cake.
@Serafos Why do you think that? From what I've heard, people mostly talk about adult shows like Rick and Morty or Helluva Boss/Hazbin Hotel or Invincible or Digital Circus. If it's something older then only stuff like South Park or Family Guy or Simpsons or even SpongeBob. If It's a kids show then I mostly hear ATLA or Owl House. But even the discussion of Western animation isn't much compared to what I hear about anime. Or maybe because I'm an anime fan then I hear a lot more about it and I hear much more about different anime than different Western cartoons |
Apr 5, 2024 1:43 AM
#4
epexu said: Are Japanese anime more popular than Western animation (in today's age)? Depends on country, age group and perhaps also gender. |
No, this isn't my signature. |
Apr 5, 2024 1:51 AM
#5
We are not a statistics agency you know... Also popularity is highly dependent on distribution. When your local media (TV stations, cable television and such) is flooded with western cartoon products it's not a matter of personal preferences. |
Apr 5, 2024 1:58 AM
#6
No, western cartoons are still more popular especially the ones by DC and Marvel. |
Apr 5, 2024 1:59 AM
#7
Because in western all we got is baby comedy and edgy comedy and everything else is non animated content. Not to mention that anime has much better worldbuilding and diversity in story. So yeah recently people started to realized the gap fill and got it trending, lf you would go through the trending in IMDB there would be some anime sprinkled throughout. |
removed-userApr 5, 2024 2:07 AM
Apr 5, 2024 2:04 AM
#8
Western animated movies are atleast more popular than anime. |
Apr 5, 2024 2:53 AM
#9
Anime is way more popular on a global scale, there's tons of data that supports it. Don't let Americans fool you into watching their rubbish like Hazbin Hotel |
Apr 5, 2024 2:54 AM
#10
Anime is still niche (even if not as much as a decade ago) and has a stigma to it. Western animation has no such stigma. Certain type of anime are considered mainstream however. |
Apr 5, 2024 1:36 PM
#11
People have watched more Tom & Jerry than they will ever watch anime. |
Apr 5, 2024 2:20 PM
#12
Of course. Western Animation started to die more once they went full woke around early to mid-2010s, it was always trash and stupid, now its much worse. I'm surprised some just realized the obvious fact Anime is much more popular, it was pretty obvious since even before 2020. Western Animation is perceived as childish political woke propaganda nowdays. Anime is popular due creators are not canceled by political activists, they listen to their audience and of course Anime ain't woke. Freedom of thought is something every sane people want and Anime give people that. Long live to Anime and death to Western Animation. |
ToumaTachibanaApr 5, 2024 2:33 PM
BANZAI NIPPON. Nippon is the Land of freedom. Nippon is the Land of Peace. Nippon is the Land of Justice and Prosperity. In Nippon, we trust. We love Nippon, we love Anime. Anime love us, Nippon love us. 日本 |
Apr 5, 2024 2:43 PM
#13
In my country anime has been more popular since the 90s |
If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
Apr 5, 2024 2:56 PM
#14
epexu said: I recently saw a twitter post about how JJK was confirmed by Guinness to be the most popular animated series of today and that got me wondering about if anime overall is more popular than all of western animation Anime overall is more popular than ANY western media today! I have a hobby of buying and selling anime and pop-culture merch, including DVDs, and anime DVDs sell 10x (if not 100x) better than the vast majority of western media |
Apr 5, 2024 2:58 PM
#15
Doubt that is overall true but because Western animation is of less diverse genres and target demographics generally speaking. Also far fewer animation studios in the West which further reduces the variety of the media and there is way more anime produced at any given moment. |
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Apr 5, 2024 5:03 PM
#16
only Western animation series i care like now was star trek lower deck great comedy wrecky adventure show with some serious drama for time to time.but overall lacking variety genres killing it besides there no sport genres animation at all. |
Apr 7, 2024 7:39 PM
#17
Reply to Neterosan
Anime is way more popular on a global scale, there's tons of data that supports it. Don't let Americans fool you into watching their rubbish like Hazbin Hotel
@Neterosan vivziepop moment (god bless the character limit) |
Apr 7, 2024 8:13 PM
#18
The only western animation I care is How to be a Loan Shark. The rest is trash |
Apr 7, 2024 8:38 PM
#19
I can't say for certain but it wouldn't surprise me. In only one of my college classes, I stumbled upon several anime fans. Anime just isn't that niche of a thing anymore. I believe a few years ago it was reported that Demon Slayer single-handedly outsold the entire western comic book industry, so there's that. |
Apr 7, 2024 9:20 PM
#21
My Little Pony has more entries for a single character on paheal.net then Demon Slayer, Jujutsu Kaisen, and The Attacking Titan combined so i'm going to go ahead and say: "No." |
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Apr 7, 2024 9:26 PM
#22
Apr 7, 2024 9:33 PM
#23
Western animation in America is still heavily exposed to kids but outside of that yeah anime is probably more popular |
Apr 8, 2024 5:33 AM
#24
Reply to LegendaryRQA
My Little Pony has more entries for a single character on paheal.net then Demon Slayer, Jujutsu Kaisen, and The Attacking Titan combined so i'm going to go ahead and say: "No."
@LegendaryRQA that's because stuff like MLP are bound to excessive r34 fanart thanks to furries and other weirdos for some reason |
Apr 8, 2024 12:49 PM
#25
Guinness World Records said: Parrot Analytics calculates ‘demand’ based on how much attention, engagement, desire, and viewership is expressed by consumers for content. Their system captures billions of new data points each day, including video consumption (streaming and downloads), social media engagement (hashtags, likes, shares), and research actions (reading about a show on IMDb, for example). Actions which require more effort on the consumer’s part, such as watching or downloading a show, are weighed more heavily when calculating demand. I read the article and.. The research methodology seems flawed.. Several of their indicators don't even apply to a sizeable portion of the animation viewing audience.. Take for example CoComelon, one of the most streamed animated series in the world.. Do they expect its audience (literal babies) to engage with the show on social media or peruse the show's IMDb page.. |
Apr 8, 2024 4:48 PM
#26
the westren animation have significantly dropped last decade and anime is increasing with simple math, the answer yes it will be more popular over the time bro even some saudi arabia prince used to has a steam profile and it is heavily into anime yyuo can search that it's really weird tbr |
Apr 8, 2024 4:59 PM
#27
first of all: getting a guiness world record requires paying for it. there could have been many applicants for that sort of thing but wasnt added because they didnt pay for it. second; i agree that anime is more mainstream. its because not all people from all around the world watch western animation, and sometimes anime just speaks to a wider audience besides the westerners. still in the western sphere animation is not taken that seriously, they arent even considered to be movie of the year in the oscars. japan takes animation WAY more seriously, and western animation has been really downhill lately save for some masterpieces like spiderverse. |
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Apr 9, 2024 6:38 AM
#28
Hard to say, its definitely close. But there are some western animations that are really popular right now like Invincible. Also indie animation is really popping off right now with stuff like Hazbin Hotel, The Amazing Digital Circus, Lackadaisy etc. |
Apr 9, 2024 7:14 AM
#29
Because western animation: - mostly caters to children only, while anime can be enjoyed at any age. - has horrible animation and artstyle compared to anime. - only covers a few genres. - doesn't have amazing voice acting like japanese anime do (dub watchers on suicide watch). |
Jul 30, 2024 3:21 PM
#30
@BigBoyAdvance @Akuya @6Snoppdog @this_shit_again @Dumb @rohan121 @LegendaryRQA @kodeb8 @neolucaman @traed @DigiCat @Phosphophyllita @Nurguburu @LenRea @Neterosan @Spunkert @Ratris_Decision @tchitchouan @alshu @Zarutaku @epexu @Serafos The Real Question: What's the Metric for Popularity? Is it subjective or objective? Regional or global? If we’re being objective and global, we need to break it down into two schools of thought. Alright, folks, let’s cut through the noise and get to the heart of the matter: Is American animation or Japanese anime more popular in 2023? This isn’t just a debate for keyboard warriors; it’s a clash of cultures with global implications. To get the full picture, we'll look at two major factors: box office dominance and total media income. Pure Box Office Dominance When it comes to pure box office numbers, American animated movies often leave Japanese anime in the dust. Sure, "Your Name" and "Demon Slayer" shattered records, but those are exceptions. In 2023, heavy hitters like "Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse" and "The Super Mario Bros. Movie" cleaned up. "Spider-Man" grossed about $600 million globally, while "Mario" brought in over $1.3 billion worldwide. In the battle of the box office, American animated films consistently outstrip anime movies by a long shot. Note that this comparison is strictly between movies and doesn’t account for other revenue streams or the broader media presence. However, this view is Americentric, reflecting the dominance of the American market. The contention often lies between Western (American) animation fans and anime enthusiasts, each group championing their preferred style of animation and its perceived global impact. Let’s Compare Key Animated Movies from America vs. Anime Key Performers in 2023 American Animated Movies: Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse (June 2023): Grossed $600 million worldwide. The Super Mario Bros. Movie (April 2023): Pulled in over $1.3 billion globally. Elemental (June 2023): Earned $500 million worldwide. Wish (November 2023): Grossed $200 million globally. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem (August 2023): Brought in $180 million worldwide. These films collectively contributed around $2.78 billion to the box office in 2023. [i]Japanese Anime Movies: [/i] Suzume (April 2023): Grossed approximately ¥14.9 billion (~$110 million). The First Slam Dunk (March 2023): Earned ¥15.8 billion (~$117 million). Black Clover: Sword of the Wizard King (June 2023): Raked in ¥8.5 billion (~$63 million). Doraemon: Nobita’s Sky Utopia: Pulled in $60 million. Psycho-Pass: Providence: Brought in $55 million. In total, anime films garnered about $500 million in box office revenue in 2023. Second School of Thought: A More Accurate Comparison For a more comprehensive view, let’s consider all revenue streams, including TV shows, streaming services, home media, and merchandise. Anime often pulls ahead when you look at the big picture. In 2023, the global market size for anime reached an impressive $28 billion, driven by movies, TV series, streaming, and merchandise. So, let’s compare the two:
The Japanese anime industry has not only surpassed the American animation industry but is also on a skyrocketing trajectory. Anime and manga have evolved from niche markets into global juggernauts. Japan isn’t just a player in entertainment anymore; it’s practically the game itself. The West should really get with the program and recognize this seismic shift. The dominance of Japanese anime is no longer up for debate—it’s the new reality. In essence, while the American animation industry might still think it’s a big deal, it’s been firmly outpaced by anime’s meteoric rise. Both industries are thriving, but anime’s relentless growth is setting the bar higher than ever. The future is clear: anime will continue to dominate and solidify its spot as the reigning champion of global entertainment. And just in case you missed it: Manga vs. Comics. Oh, what a surprise! Manga sales blew American comics out of the water, raking in a whopping $6 billion in 2023 while US comics barely scraped together $1.2 billion. This little fact really drives home how Japanese media is storming the global stage. Maybe American comics should take a page from anime’s playbook—or better yet, just watch from the sidelines. Heck, "Demon Slayer" manga alone outsold the entire comics industry in 2020. BIG FUCKING LMAO. and in a final side note: It’s cute how some Americans are still coping and seething over their decades-old dominance being challenged. If you’re one of those folks still clinging to the 2000s, living under a rock thinking anime is still some niche obsession, or if you’re an “American patriot” who can’t bear the thought of a bunch of so-called “weeb cartoons” taking the global lead, it’s time to wake up and smell the ramen. The world’s moved on, and if you’re not on board with that, well, enjoy your saltiness and denial. The anime revolution is here, and it’s not going anywhere. you better enjoy the ride with the JPs and otakus/weebs cuz you're gonna hate it from now on forward. lmao PIS: well shit, i may as well make it its own thread after making such a in depth post. damn, i just couldn't make it casual sigh |
Jul 30, 2024 3:45 PM
#31
Phantomnocomics said: The Real Question No, the real question is why you tagged everyone, instead only the people who would argue with you? My post clearly stated the I am seeing the theme from a bit different agnle, also that the popularity is more or less defined by the big media distributors. Phantomnocomics said: Is American animation or Japanese anime more popular in 2023? I mean the theme is about all the western animation. For example one of the most popular cartoons of the last few years (lets say measured by Reddit's "karma") - Arcane is made by a french studio. Same goes for the Blue Eye Samurai. Phantomnocomics said: box office dominance and total media income This is a BS way to measure it. Since it comes to exposure, also availability of the media (for example less cinema screenings or a title not being released in certain country at all) and merchandise. The bigger the company is the better opportunities for gain the title will have. And yeah, the provided statistics are sus to me... |
Jul 30, 2024 4:12 PM
#32
Reply to Phantomnocomics
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The Real Question: What's the Metric for Popularity?
Is it subjective or objective? Regional or global? If we’re being objective and global, we need to break it down into two schools of thought.
Alright, folks, let’s cut through the noise and get to the heart of the matter: Is American animation or Japanese anime more popular in 2023? This isn’t just a debate for keyboard warriors; it’s a clash of cultures with global implications. To get the full picture, we'll look at two major factors: box office dominance and total media income.
Pure Box Office Dominance
When it comes to pure box office numbers, American animated movies often leave Japanese anime in the dust. Sure, "Your Name" and "Demon Slayer" shattered records, but those are exceptions. In 2023, heavy hitters like "Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse" and "The Super Mario Bros. Movie" cleaned up. "Spider-Man" grossed about $600 million globally, while "Mario" brought in over $1.3 billion worldwide. In the battle of the box office, American animated films consistently outstrip anime movies by a long shot. Note that this comparison is strictly between movies and doesn’t account for other revenue streams or the broader media presence.
However, this view is Americentric, reflecting the dominance of the American market. The contention often lies between Western (American) animation fans and anime enthusiasts, each group championing their preferred style of animation and its perceived global impact.
Let’s Compare Key Animated Movies from America vs. Anime
Key Performers in 2023
American Animated Movies:
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse (June 2023): Grossed $600 million worldwide.
The Super Mario Bros. Movie (April 2023): Pulled in over $1.3 billion globally.
Elemental (June 2023): Earned $500 million worldwide.
Wish (November 2023): Grossed $200 million globally.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem (August 2023): Brought in $180 million worldwide.
These films collectively contributed around $2.78 billion to the box office in 2023.
[i]Japanese Anime Movies:
[/i]
Suzume (April 2023): Grossed approximately ¥14.9 billion (~$110 million).
The First Slam Dunk (March 2023): Earned ¥15.8 billion (~$117 million).
Black Clover: Sword of the Wizard King (June 2023): Raked in ¥8.5 billion (~$63 million).
Doraemon: Nobita’s Sky Utopia: Pulled in $60 million.
Psycho-Pass: Providence: Brought in $55 million.
In total, anime films garnered about $500 million in box office revenue in 2023.
Second School of Thought: A More Accurate Comparison
For a more comprehensive view, let’s consider all revenue streams, including TV shows, streaming services, home media, and merchandise. Anime often pulls ahead when you look at the big picture. In 2023, the global market size for anime reached an impressive $28 billion, driven by movies, TV series, streaming, and merchandise.
So, let’s compare the two:
The Japanese anime industry has not only surpassed the American animation industry but is also on a skyrocketing trajectory. Anime and manga have evolved from niche markets into global juggernauts. Japan isn’t just a player in entertainment anymore; it’s practically the game itself. The West should really get with the program and recognize this seismic shift. The dominance of Japanese anime is no longer up for debate—it’s the new reality.
In essence, while the American animation industry might still think it’s a big deal, it’s been firmly outpaced by anime’s meteoric rise. Both industries are thriving, but anime’s relentless growth is setting the bar higher than ever. The future is clear: anime will continue to dominate and solidify its spot as the reigning champion of global entertainment.
And just in case you missed it: Manga vs. Comics. Oh, what a surprise! Manga sales blew American comics out of the water, raking in a whopping $6 billion in 2023 while US comics barely scraped together $1.2 billion. This little fact really drives home how Japanese media is storming the global stage. Maybe American comics should take a page from anime’s playbook—or better yet, just watch from the sidelines. Heck, "Demon Slayer" manga alone outsold the entire comics industry in 2020. BIG FUCKING LMAO.
and in a final side note: It’s cute how some Americans are still coping and seething over their decades-old dominance being challenged. If you’re one of those folks still clinging to the 2000s, living under a rock thinking anime is still some niche obsession, or if you’re an “American patriot” who can’t bear the thought of a bunch of so-called “weeb cartoons” taking the global lead, it’s time to wake up and smell the ramen. The world’s moved on, and if you’re not on board with that, well, enjoy your saltiness and denial. The anime revolution is here, and it’s not going anywhere.
you better enjoy the ride with the JPs and otakus/weebs cuz you're gonna hate it from now on forward. lmao
PIS: well shit, i may as well make it its own thread after making such a in depth post. damn, i just couldn't make it casual sigh
The Real Question: What's the Metric for Popularity?
Is it subjective or objective? Regional or global? If we’re being objective and global, we need to break it down into two schools of thought.
Alright, folks, let’s cut through the noise and get to the heart of the matter: Is American animation or Japanese anime more popular in 2023? This isn’t just a debate for keyboard warriors; it’s a clash of cultures with global implications. To get the full picture, we'll look at two major factors: box office dominance and total media income.
Pure Box Office Dominance
When it comes to pure box office numbers, American animated movies often leave Japanese anime in the dust. Sure, "Your Name" and "Demon Slayer" shattered records, but those are exceptions. In 2023, heavy hitters like "Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse" and "The Super Mario Bros. Movie" cleaned up. "Spider-Man" grossed about $600 million globally, while "Mario" brought in over $1.3 billion worldwide. In the battle of the box office, American animated films consistently outstrip anime movies by a long shot. Note that this comparison is strictly between movies and doesn’t account for other revenue streams or the broader media presence.
However, this view is Americentric, reflecting the dominance of the American market. The contention often lies between Western (American) animation fans and anime enthusiasts, each group championing their preferred style of animation and its perceived global impact.
Let’s Compare Key Animated Movies from America vs. Anime
Key Performers in 2023
American Animated Movies:
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse (June 2023): Grossed $600 million worldwide.
The Super Mario Bros. Movie (April 2023): Pulled in over $1.3 billion globally.
Elemental (June 2023): Earned $500 million worldwide.
Wish (November 2023): Grossed $200 million globally.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem (August 2023): Brought in $180 million worldwide.
These films collectively contributed around $2.78 billion to the box office in 2023.
[i]Japanese Anime Movies:
[/i]
Suzume (April 2023): Grossed approximately ¥14.9 billion (~$110 million).
The First Slam Dunk (March 2023): Earned ¥15.8 billion (~$117 million).
Black Clover: Sword of the Wizard King (June 2023): Raked in ¥8.5 billion (~$63 million).
Doraemon: Nobita’s Sky Utopia: Pulled in $60 million.
Psycho-Pass: Providence: Brought in $55 million.
In total, anime films garnered about $500 million in box office revenue in 2023.
Second School of Thought: A More Accurate Comparison
For a more comprehensive view, let’s consider all revenue streams, including TV shows, streaming services, home media, and merchandise. Anime often pulls ahead when you look at the big picture. In 2023, the global market size for anime reached an impressive $28 billion, driven by movies, TV series, streaming, and merchandise.
So, let’s compare the two:
- If we’re just looking at box office earnings, American animated films are the clear winners. But when you include streaming series, merchandise, and other revenue streams, anime tells a different story. The total value of the American animation market, including TV shows and merchandise, was around $23.22 billion in 2023. The anime industry, encompassing TV, movies, and merchandise, was valued at $28 billion for the same year.
The Japanese anime industry has not only surpassed the American animation industry but is also on a skyrocketing trajectory. Anime and manga have evolved from niche markets into global juggernauts. Japan isn’t just a player in entertainment anymore; it’s practically the game itself. The West should really get with the program and recognize this seismic shift. The dominance of Japanese anime is no longer up for debate—it’s the new reality.
In essence, while the American animation industry might still think it’s a big deal, it’s been firmly outpaced by anime’s meteoric rise. Both industries are thriving, but anime’s relentless growth is setting the bar higher than ever. The future is clear: anime will continue to dominate and solidify its spot as the reigning champion of global entertainment.
And just in case you missed it: Manga vs. Comics. Oh, what a surprise! Manga sales blew American comics out of the water, raking in a whopping $6 billion in 2023 while US comics barely scraped together $1.2 billion. This little fact really drives home how Japanese media is storming the global stage. Maybe American comics should take a page from anime’s playbook—or better yet, just watch from the sidelines. Heck, "Demon Slayer" manga alone outsold the entire comics industry in 2020. BIG FUCKING LMAO.
and in a final side note: It’s cute how some Americans are still coping and seething over their decades-old dominance being challenged. If you’re one of those folks still clinging to the 2000s, living under a rock thinking anime is still some niche obsession, or if you’re an “American patriot” who can’t bear the thought of a bunch of so-called “weeb cartoons” taking the global lead, it’s time to wake up and smell the ramen. The world’s moved on, and if you’re not on board with that, well, enjoy your saltiness and denial. The anime revolution is here, and it’s not going anywhere.
you better enjoy the ride with the JPs and otakus/weebs cuz you're gonna hate it from now on forward. lmao
PIS: well shit, i may as well make it its own thread after making such a in depth post. damn, i just couldn't make it casual sigh
@Phantomnocomics You forget to include one thing in your box office calculation though Hollywood movies tend to get 1,5 to 2 months in theaters, compare to only 3 days to a week for anime Judging by how anime beats western animation when it comes to streaming (so when both are on equel terms of accessibility), and manga sales vs comic sales, i'm inclined to think with the same amount of accessibility in theaters anime could quite easily catch up, if not outright beat, most western animation of today |
Jul 30, 2024 4:36 PM
#33
Reply to alshu
Phantomnocomics said:
The Real Question
The Real Question
No, the real question is why you tagged everyone, instead only the people who would argue with you?
My post clearly stated the I am seeing the theme from a bit different agnle, also that the popularity is more or less defined by the big media distributors.
Phantomnocomics said:
Is American animation or Japanese anime more popular in 2023?
Is American animation or Japanese anime more popular in 2023?
I mean the theme is about all the western animation. For example one of the most popular cartoons of the last few years (lets say measured by Reddit's "karma") - Arcane is made by a french studio. Same goes for the Blue Eye Samurai.
Phantomnocomics said:
box office dominance and total media income
box office dominance and total media income
This is a BS way to measure it. Since it comes to exposure, also availability of the media (for example less cinema screenings or a title not being released in certain country at all) and merchandise.
The bigger the company is the better opportunities for gain the title will have.
And yeah, the provided statistics are sus to me...
@alshu I mean the theme is about all the western animation. For example one of the most popular cartoons of the last few years (lets say measured by Reddit's "karma") - Arcane is made by a french studio. Same goes for the Blue Eye Samurai. arcane is a french-american collab comissioned by an american company and made primarily for an anglophone audience via script. also, reddit, and american movies make the vast majority of western animation revenue either way hence why mentioning shows like arcade is even more redundant. and such shows are accounted for either way No, the real question is why you tagged everyone, instead only the people who would argue with you? My post clearly stated the I am seeing the theme from a bit different agnle, also that the popularity is more or less defined by the big media distributors. for informing and engagement, how you choose to engage however is up to you. your angle is quite subjective but it's ur take so that be that This is a BS way to measure it. Since it comes to exposure, also availability of the media (for example less cinema screenings or a title not being released in certain country at all) and merchandise. The bigger the company is the better opportunities for gain the title will have. And yeah, the provided statistics are sus to me... it's an objective way of measuring a film's popularity, movies popularity being defined by how much money they make in theatres or number of viwership in streams is an industry method. your big distributors method is a personal take and imo not that reliable as you may think the numbers are legit stuff, i can provide you the sources for them if you want but they should be a one google click away if u wanna verify them @digitcat You forget to include one thing in your box office calculation though Hollywood movies tend to get 1,5 to 2 months in theaters, compare to only 3 days to a week for anime Judging by how anime beats western animation when it comes to streaming (so when both are on equel terms of accessibility), and manga sales vs comic sales, i'm inclined to think with the same amount of accessibility in theaters anime could quite easily catch up, if not outright beat, most western animation of today indeed, good catch. another thing to note about for why the anime industry is the one prevailing in the world stage right now |
Jul 30, 2024 6:37 PM
#34
Phantomnocomics said: Is it subjective or objective? Regional or global? If we’re being objective and global, we need to break it down into two schools of thought. Alright, folks, let’s cut through the noise and get to the heart of the matter: Is American animation or Japanese anime more popular in 2023? This isn’t just a debate for keyboard warriors; it’s a clash of cultures with global implications. To get the full picture, we'll look at two major factors: box office dominance and total media income. I dont care about popularity to begin with. Global isnt objective, it is just a biased measure where the larger a country the more people to like something so any language or cultural boundary will usually influence results on top of that. |
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Jul 30, 2024 7:26 PM
#35
depends on age range, if we are talking about all ages i'd say western animation tops, in a close numbers, if we are talking about kids during puberty phase - young adults then anime clears hard |
Хайде, хайде, хайде, това е първата зона, брато, първа зона, първа зона, добре, добре, добре, това става тук горе, отива тук горе, само спокойно, само спокойно... Ха, отдясно е, навсякъде отдясно отдясно къде е дясното ти о да добре добре добре тихо мълчаливо не успях да се съсредоточа върху това ЕХ ТЪПАК КОГАТО СИ БАВНО БАВНО ... ой е путката на моето момиче прасе куче, аз Чувствам се добре, о, мамо, *шамар*, какво е това госпожице татко- |
Jul 30, 2024 11:30 PM
#36
Phantomnocomics said: arcane is a french-american collab comissioned by an american company Dude, you are beyond salvation... Like there are anime shows nowadays which are commissioned by american companies, are we counting those as american cartoons? Or such commissioned by chinese companies, are those donghua? |
alshuJul 30, 2024 11:34 PM
Jul 31, 2024 10:36 AM
#37
i didn't follow west animation anymore. last hype was frozen elsa so not sure if another wave ripples. |
Aguuus said: Most people confuse overrating with overpopularity, for example the poor SAO is a victim of this problem. Nor is there overrating, only people who do not know how to qualify fairly, like me. |
Jul 31, 2024 10:46 AM
#38
Does it even matter? Popularity never truly mattered anyways. |
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Jul 31, 2024 10:52 AM
#39
hazecloud said: i didn't follow west animation anymore. last hype was frozen elsa so not sure if another wave ripples. Spider-Verse movies (2 so far), also fairly popular among weebs. |
No, this isn't my signature. |
Jul 31, 2024 10:58 AM
#40
In my region anime is more popular than western animation |
What you see is what you get , Sorry my English is not the best . |
Jul 31, 2024 11:07 AM
#41
Reply to Zarutaku
hazecloud said:
i didn't follow west animation anymore. last hype was frozen elsa so not sure if another wave ripples.
i didn't follow west animation anymore. last hype was frozen elsa so not sure if another wave ripples.
Spider-Verse movies (2 so far), also fairly popular among weebs.
@Zarutaku i remember about the red venom, was it named carnage. i didn't hear people talk about it but hey maybe i wasn't looking in first place. was it any good? i know they promote tom holloland was it his name but i'm not convinced the new spider man was a success. so hearing it from you maybe it's worth checking out. |
Aguuus said: Most people confuse overrating with overpopularity, for example the poor SAO is a victim of this problem. Nor is there overrating, only people who do not know how to qualify fairly, like me. |
Jul 31, 2024 11:11 AM
#42
I think Arcane is more popular than some anime because it has lesbians. A lot of Gen Z is LGBTQ. |
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Jul 31, 2024 11:14 AM
#43
It does not matter to me since I mostly watch anime MMD vids on Youtube these days. |
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Jul 31, 2024 11:21 AM
#44
Reply to Zarutaku
hazecloud said:
i didn't follow west animation anymore. last hype was frozen elsa so not sure if another wave ripples.
i didn't follow west animation anymore. last hype was frozen elsa so not sure if another wave ripples.
Spider-Verse movies (2 so far), also fairly popular among weebs.
@Zarutaku yeah it's rated higher than some anime films. And people were mad when the 2nd film didn't win the Oscar and the anime film (the boy and the heron) won instead. |
HACKs! 🤢🤮 |
Jul 31, 2024 11:24 AM
#45
Animation is/was never good to begin with. Read a book, goddamn it! |
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Jul 31, 2024 11:33 AM
#46
The answer to this is both yes and no. Anime is definitely more "normie" than it was some 20 years ago, but at the same time most people don't get exposed to much other than the same kind of battle shounen they watched as kids. Now they're passing that onto their own children. Sure, some romcoms and ecchi titles have also been decently big recently (see: Bisque Doll, Kaguya) but most of the time it depends on how hard the production company and/or diehard fans are pushing for the show through YouTubers and social media memes. |
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Jul 31, 2024 11:36 AM
#47
Well, I live in Australia where you get shot on sight if you don't see the mandated daily episode of Bluey, so definitely not here. All hail our Supreme Leader, Bandit. (send help pls) |
Jul 31, 2024 11:50 AM
#48
I think anime is definitely more popular, at least in my age group, because other then spiderverse, rick and morty, invicible and that occasionally popular series every few months, we don't often talk about western animation |
Jul 31, 2024 11:52 AM
#49
hazecloud said: @Zarutaku i remember about the red venom, was it named carnage. i didn't hear people talk about it but hey maybe i wasn't looking in first place. was it any good? i know they promote tom holloland was it his name but i'm not convinced the new spider man was a success. so hearing it from you maybe it's worth checking out. I only saw the 1st Venom movie, it was just fine. I'm not talking about the live-action Spider-Man movies, the Spider-Verse movies are separated and fully animated. |
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Jul 31, 2024 11:59 AM
#50
SaiteiDaOrette said: Well, I live in Australia where you get shot on sight if you don't see the mandated daily episode of Bluey, so definitely not here. Actually not surprising, perhaps the best show to watch for becoming a better human. |
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