| Before anyone wants to bash me for creating this thread, here me out. In the show, it's explicitly mentioned in the show that elves lack reproductive instincts and romantic desires. It's canonically confirmed that she doesn't experience any sort of romantic/sexual attraction to any person. It's weird that there are so many Frieren fans denying that she is asexual. It's not speculation or headcanon, it's explicitly mentioned within the text of the show. People should stop coping and accept the canon imo especially people who ship her with Himmel. |
| Well later in the manga it was rather clearly shown that Himmel loved Frieren and she could love him. I have a theory. Elves live for a very long time and even if you take into account Fireren age, as an elf she is emotionally a kid (teenager entry point), which is why she doesn't pay attention to romance and similar matters. Or we go to the typical standard. So when you are aware that you will basically live for 80,000+ years, you don't really feel the need to love someone, be in a relationship or have children. Well, why do you need them? |
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nbby said: Her character may be, but it seems some of her fans aren't. Put legs and a cute smile on a rock and I'm sure someone will want to f*ck it. As long as the story doesn't feed the thirsty beast too much, I guess I don't care. This is me. I am her fan. I want to fuck Frieren. On topic, OP, the show (and manga) very explicitly confirm that elves do not have strong sexual instincts (which is one of the reasons they are dying out), which I assume applies to Frieren too. I think she’s still capable of romantic attachments and even in the moment sexual arousal, but I just don’t think it’s an ongoing motivating drive for her like it nah be for a human. |
Sanjay63773 said: Yeah, I also noticed it. You can see a lot of people raging over calling Frieren as asexual, yelling about "what does it have to do with this wholesome story?!", while the story itself mentions this aspect of elvish biology and society. It was explicitly mentioned that their romantic drive is poor, which leads them to live rather individualistic lives (even if they are a part of community), with relationships being rare. This leads to low fertility of elves, which, in consequence, has made their race almost extinct.It's weird that there are so many Frieren fans denying that she is asexual. It's not speculation or headcanon, it's explicitly mentioned within the text of the show. People should stop coping and accept the canon imo especially people who ship her with Himmel. It's just a part of the lore. No need to seethe over it. Frieren is asexual and it's canon. She can like other folks, or even feel love towards them. However, her way of experiencing it or expressing it is different than non-asexual people. It was SOYmel's fault to choose Platonic, unrequited love, instead of actually talking to Frieren like a proper adult he was. I guess a lot of fans raging over this trait of Frieren are either overly excited shippers, or just have no idea what does it mean to be asexual. |
| Dunno, but I see Himmel's love as obviously unrequited and am not a fan of the ship, I enjoyed the development over the course of the series though, through these flashbacks and old memories, and only see it as Freiren coming to more of an understanding, in terms of Himmel and her party. I can see the author pushing for it down the road, as the feedback for this ship is very big, but it would have to be some good writing to convince me of Freiren's "love" for Himmel. If not, than I will be pretty disappointed. I'm more for Fern and Stark's little thing they've kind of got going on... |
| Frieren is the ultimate weeb neet. - Never had sex in more than 1000 years. - Spent periods longer than a human lifespan secluded in a forest without a single friend. That's why this is top #1 anime on MAL. |
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| Elves are not humans, maybe this concept of asexual people doesn't exist for them. |
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| "Her character may be, but it seems some of her fans aren't. Put legs and a cute smile on a rock and I'm sure someone will want to f*ck it." Are you saying you'd try to stick your dick into a rock? I know Frieren is heterosexual, she's just never had an occasion or felt the need to fuck or get fucked. |
| Life Is Short But Intense. |
| Don't need to label everything. See it however you want. |
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| in anime she herself said elfs aren’t interested in romantic relationship and prefer to be alone, thats why their population is declining. Pretty normal for an elf |
Sanjay63773 said: People should stop coping and accept the canon imo especially people who ship her with Himmel. Ever heard of platonic relationship? |
*kappa* |
Sanjay63773 said: Before anyone wants to bash me for creating this thread, here me out. In the show, it's explicitly mentioned in the show that elves lack reproductive instincts and romantic desires. It's canonically confirmed that she doesn't experience any sort of romantic/sexual attraction to any person. It's weird that there are so many Frieren fans denying that she is asexual. It's not speculation or headcanon, it's explicitly mentioned within the text of the show. People should stop coping and accept the canon imo especially people who ship her with Himmel. Don't ever make any statement that can make someone spoiled it to you from manga. I can spoiled it if you wants. but for anime watcher only, of coz they doesn't want that. so I'm not spoiled it bro. Just read the manga bro. You expected people not to bash you, but here you bashing out Frieren fans. Double standard at the finest🤷 |
RainmeMar 24, 2024 7:02 AM
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FrierenSimpKing said:
This is me. I am her fan. I want to fuck Frieren.
On topic, OP, the show (and manga) very explicitly confirm that elves do not have strong sexual instincts (which is one of the reasons they are dying out), which I assume applies to Frieren too. I think she’s still capable of romantic attachments and even in the moment sexual arousal, but I just don’t think it’s an ongoing motivating drive for her like it nah be for a human.
nbby said:
Her character may be, but it seems some of her fans aren't. Put legs and a cute smile on a rock and I'm sure someone will want to f*ck it.
As long as the story doesn't feed the thirsty beast too much, I guess I don't care.
Her character may be, but it seems some of her fans aren't. Put legs and a cute smile on a rock and I'm sure someone will want to f*ck it.
As long as the story doesn't feed the thirsty beast too much, I guess I don't care.
This is me. I am her fan. I want to fuck Frieren.
On topic, OP, the show (and manga) very explicitly confirm that elves do not have strong sexual instincts (which is one of the reasons they are dying out), which I assume applies to Frieren too. I think she’s still capable of romantic attachments and even in the moment sexual arousal, but I just don’t think it’s an ongoing motivating drive for her like it nah be for a human.
You can’t just say that and the go back to serious discussion bro😭
@OtakuTroglodyte  |
| It's the closest description we have, but since it's built in to the entire race of elves, it is a little difference. Still though, THIS IS OBJECTIVELY the single best way of writing concepts like this, It's just a part of the story, nothing more, nothing else. Like how the inclusion of anything should be. Anime is actually has been WAY better than the west at "representation" without that being the main goal. Like I had just given up on anyone writing a trans character that doesn't come off as propaganda, barely characterized garbage, but the aunt in skip loafer was great! Like, you don't even have even have to think the whole "gender identity" thing makes sense, the truth is that people who are "trans" exist, and in correct proportion, there is nothing wrong with including them because they work within the story. Most people hate the fact that these things are pushed down your throat with a shovel. they genuinely feel like propaganda. but it doesn't have to be like that. |
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| They dont lack them entirely they just have low sex drive. This is basically used as a way to explain why there isnt quadrillions of elves considering how long they live. |
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nbby said: Put legs and a cute smile on a rock and I'm sure someone will want to f*ck it. Seems like a legit assumption ;)  |
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Sanjay63773 said: It's weird that there are so many Frieren fans denying that she is asexual. Are there really? Because I haven't seen a single person talking about this topic til you brought this up personally (and I'm fairly active in here), do you have examples? Depending on the example I can kinda understand. It's less about sexuality, and more about lack of instictive self-preservation of a given species, it's imprinted in elves' nature. It's more accurate to compare Frieren to a panda (also naturally instinctively uninterested in self-preservation, thus why they are dying out) than to call her assexual (since their life outlook is widely different as a non-human being), the way she put it in her own words. Other than that there's nothing to be like "how dare they deny this obvious thing!" about, her brain doesn't quite work the same as your average human in the first place, took her a while to even start understanding empathy at all, according to her old companions. Sanjay63773 said: People should stop coping and accept the canon imo especially people who ship her with Himmel. PS: Asexual people do have partners and also do have sex with people they are romantically involved with, they just have low interest in it for the most part. By all means, Frieren wouldn't have been born otherwise (as in, even if we really have to categorize her and elves as assexual as per human definition), it's perfectly possible for her to be in a love relationship with Himmel (and have a sexual life perhaps) given the opportunity (but alas, it wasn't meant to be). Not sure what you are trying to push here, but so yeah, that's just as canon. |
DanpmssMar 24, 2024 11:47 AM
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Sanjay63773 said: Before anyone wants to bash me for creating this thread, here me out. In the show, it's explicitly mentioned in the show that elves lack reproductive instincts and romantic desires. It's canonically confirmed that she doesn't experience any sort of romantic/sexual attraction to any person. It's weird that there are so many Frieren fans denying that she is asexual. It's not speculation or headcanon, it's explicitly mentioned within the text of the show. People should stop coping and accept the canon imo especially people who ship her with Himmel. Obviously, they didn't pay attention to the anime when they addressed the elven biology to procreate, and I'm taking a huge assumption they even watched. |
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| Who the fuck cares? If Frieren exclusively fucks sentient mushrooms, it still isn't relevant at all. |
AquaMailman said: Who the fuck cares? If Frieren exclusively fucks sentient mushrooms, it still isn't relevant at all Paparazzi confirm sighting of Frieren's boyfriend  |
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| I can't believe this is a topic, no frieren is not asexual at least most likely not, the problem is she has a elf's reproductive cycle, which means what would happen immediately for us, could take her decades to realize, this is why it's up in the air if frieren was romantically in love with himmel, because if she was she realized it at his funeral. This is a important point in the story about elves in general, elves are essentially what humans would become if they lived for 10k or possibly even 100k years in theory, everything we experience in a lifetime would be stretched out. So is fireren asexual? We don't know, though most likely not, she just has the sex drive of a person who lives for thousands of years, the short period of a friendship for a being like that is heavily a focus in this story, frieren still remembers flamme, who essentially was like a mother to her and himmel is brought up essentially once a episode by her, so whether she was romantically interested in them or not, himmel was extremely precious to frieren, so the answer to this question is likely that since none of her kind survived or so she thought, she's never had the decades it takes to understand what her emotional feelings are, so if she did love himmel, she never realized it until he died. |
| Chapter 117 and 118 buddy 😂 This was addressed MONTHS ago. |
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