What are your thoughts on K-dramas
| So I've had a discussion with a friend who claims to now be a normie and watch less anime as she started watching Korean Dramas. It's cool, I have no qualms with it despite my disdain for it, so out of curiosity I got some very compelling arguments when I discussed the situation she said: Every anime, ever, get attractive characters, why nerd guys that live in their basement love anime girls? because they think those girls live in a world where being a shut in nerd and quiet make you attractive and hot girls there looove it It always makes me laugh how some animes really are written especially for guys that are anti social and live in their parents house forever and virgin The bad thing here is that it doesn't encourage you to change, it actually tells you it's ok being quircky, weird, quiet, not caring, girls love it, be like that, that's the ideal type for girls in the rl world. So, I don't know, if a guy want to have sucees with girls, he should actually watch K drama, they look way less cringy than shoujo animes, the faces look less weird and they don't hit on you after 5 mins lol And the girls there, they don't act weird or quirky, some of them are unconfident, some of them are basically nerds, but they don't show you this is the ideal type and all attractive guys want you because of that, they just put one guy in the whole series that have interest in you, or another guy that might like her too, but you can see they fit in personality, not the bad guy or a super-confident guy love an insecure nerd girl, shit like that Bottom line, anime in half of the cases are written for guys, that love to see boobs, panties, girls liking them, want to get validation for who they are right now even if they're not successful in rl K drama are written for girls, that love see good looking guys, enjoy watching romance, and want to tear up over a good show with good music, we love guys, we know it, they know it. But they don't give me weird ideas about being pervert over a loli, being overly cute, acting childish is attractive, most female guy is most attractive guy being a trap is cool and attractive and ideal. and then you have shit like this: https://mydramalist.com/article/kdrama-boyfriends-vs-real-boyfriends-011015157 Spoiler: The one who wrote that article is not a teenage girl but a mom with two kids. I repeat, A Mother with two children so I admit that I don't know a lot about it but here's what I know and my thoughts about it so I actually checked if there were people who discussed this before and I found a few threads: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1832910 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1806050 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=432629 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1340317 and none of them ever came close to discussing this, I guess this isn't much of an issue? edit: except this: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1602190 I'm just curious about your thoughts on this and if you do agree with them or something |
3miLJul 25, 2020 3:24 AM
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| Anime is a medium, K-drama is a genre. Anime being a medium makes it so much more versatile. |
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| "Watching soap opera will improve your love life." is the dumbest thing I have heard from a long long time. |
| in kdrama what I see just romance and history. I like kingdom from netflix . is it count as kdrama . İt was good |
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| Sorry, no offense. Her arguments are some of the most awful arguments I have ever seen. A grown ass adult was compelled to write this pants on head stupid bullshit? Okay, to be frank, I am seventeen, so it wouldn't be fair to insult someone only slightly younger than me for saying something stupid. Anime can be, but are not inherently written for guys. There is so much to take into account, you cannot just generalize anime as one staple thing because you saw a few shitty romcoms. There are anime that I'd say are like K-Dramas and are aimed mainly at girls or women, for fucks sake! This is clearly an bad take by somebody who has seen little anime, (probably doesn't know demographic either) and if internet stereotypes like "o well ur a virgin if u like anime titz xDDDDD frever al0neZ" are the basis of their argument, no offense again, that is a pretty awful way to compare two entirely different mediums (actually, Korean dramas, as far as I know, are a subgenre of an entirely different medium, so K-Drama's cant really be called a medium, can it...) Also, so what if a mother of two children wrote that article? (Initiating Mom Battle) {Snobbish kid mode activated.} My mom is an anime fan who loves anime tits, asses and was a hentai collector, plus likes anime men. She is a mother of five children from 17 (me), to 29, one of those kids being a lady who was an actual weeb and hardcore anime fan who now has four children who are anime fans. My mom also likes K-Dramas, but never to the length that she loves anime. So basically, MY mom likes K-Dramas like you do, and anime, so she's the better mom here. ^lol half of that was jokes but it is true she loves anime and hentai. I don't know how many women I know that love anime, most of which are attracted to anime tits and asses, because there are a lot. I don't think the article was that bad (it was awful; Whoa, just noticed that whammy. Talk about talk about conflating anime with reality, but clearly soap operas when they are live action are truly the more realistic one?) but I don't see how it supports the argument. Okay, TL;DR I'm not sure if this was the gist of the argument since it was relatively stupefying. But this is what I got out of it, and my answer. To say that all or any women can't, shouldn't, or don't like anime because of this is an uneducated and bad take in general, and in my opinion contradicts the original statements in the first place. Using non-correlated things such as sex and insults as basis to form an argument against why anime is bad and for men is definitely not a good one. Okay, you don't gotta like anime. That's fine, have your reasons. But it's still pretty fucking stupid in my opinion. As soon as I started writing this post, I tried to be serious throughout most of it, but I slowly took that argument less and less seriously so even I ended up writing some pretty stupid shit. Now that I think about it, most stereotypes for "weeaboos" can be done for "koreaboos" as well. Through comparing apples and oranges, I have found two sides of one coin. Also I really do like K-Dramas. Guess I've been a Pussy Slayer all this time? |
ChartTopper60Jul 23, 2020 2:56 AM
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alshu said: "Watching soap opera will improve your love life." is the dumbest thing I have heard from a long long time. wape said: *If a guy wants to have success with girls, they should watch K-Drama instead* Thank you very much! Now that I know the holy secret I'm ready so slay some pussie. Apparently she's an expert on the topic because she's a mom with two kids... Her husband must be Chad Thundercock lol |
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Berserkerhealer said: in kdrama what I see just romance and history. I like kingdom from netflix . is it count as kdrama . İt was good Just looked it up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_(South_Korean_TV_series) I guess that counts as one. Still doesn't them as a whole though, but if you say this is good. Idk maybe I'll give it a try |
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OnionKnightRises said: Anime is a medium, K-drama is a genre. Anime being a medium makes it so much more versatile. I'm hearing this for the first time, I was under the impression it was a medium of its own with genres that just doesn't get popular as the little girls' fantasies, can you elaborate more on why it is a genre? |
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None taken.. unless that was for my well-informed friend This is the most detailed answer that fits what I expect so far tbh the other posts just affirm the ideas already on the original post and yeah, armed with multiple perspectives, I'd say you certainly are a pussy slayer at this point in time my good sir  Lol I'm totally dying from envy right now, my mom on the other hand, albeit not as religiously devoted to Kim Jong Un (joke, I know he's from a diff Korea) also told me to "stop watching cartoons and try something new" and I repeat myself: I said: Most kdramas are all about shoujo romance portrayed by "handsome" totally not gay actors, like take Playful Kiss, or Boys over Flowers which are quite literally manga adapted to suit their audiences (those have anime too btw). And adding to this they do not have a wide range of genres like anime do, they may and I may not know it - but the fact that it is unpopular if it does exist, says a lot about its quality and I also said: Most of its fans are little girls (or women with the minds of little girls - read the article above and see the credits points to a mom with two kids, seriously Karen, it's time to grow up). While anime has a huge diversity of fans from all ages and nationalities, all catered to by the various genres lol I thought there were some more topics discussed because it was kinda long but I guess that's it haha |
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3miL said: OnionKnightRises said: Anime is a medium, K-drama is a genre. Anime being a medium makes it so much more versatile. I'm hearing this for the first time, I was under the impression it was a medium of its own with genres that just doesn't get popular as the little girls' fantasies, can you elaborate more on why it is a genre? Well, it's more like animation is the medium (anime is not separate from animation, it is animation produced in Japan), and Korean drama is a sub-genre of the Drama genre. Live action is the medium because of what it can do, just as animation is a medium because of what it can do. A medium is created when it follows a specific identical process rather than how it is done. Korean dramas aren't a medium because that is to say Spanish soap opera or American police dramas are also a medium. Korean drama is just a term to describe... live-action drama made in Korea, so it is really a sub-genre, just as Dark Fantasy is used to describe a sub-genre of Fantasy that takes on darker fantasies. Shortest answer I could come up with, sorry if it was long. Also no hard feelings if I came off mean. Lol |
ChartTopper60Jul 23, 2020 3:24 AM
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| In terms of realistic melodrama and historically setting I'd definifely take Korean drama over Japanese anime. Most of melodrama anime i have seen are fluffy cutesy anime with forced melodrama scenes. Historical anime is usually about a shogun's biography or European history with fantasy setting which is unrealistic for me. (I'll get Akatsuki no Yona and Shokoku no Altair out of the discussion) |
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ChartTopper60 said: .... Shortest answer I could come up with, sorry if it was long. Also no hard feelings if I came off mean. Lol No it perfectly made sense to me and as I said on the above post none taken as I despise K-dramas myself |
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| Those people who compare it are nothing but ignorant cucks who know nothing about anime as a medium. Well, it's usually k-drama fans who are comparing and you can't expect high IQ from them. |
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cythraul said: Those people who compare it are nothing but ignorant cucks who know nothing about anime as a medium. Well, it's usually k-drama fans who are comparing and you can't expect high IQ from them.  My thoughts exactly. We're (anime fans) not really the type to speak out about this though, probably because we're not the type to care what people think is right |
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| I have nothing against those and i never watch them but i don't see how they can get compared. |
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3miL said: and then you have shit like this: https://mydramalist.com/article/kdrama-boyfriends-vs-real-boyfriends-011015157 Highlighting the only good thing of all this post. It is really funny and accurate (especially if it is about a looong relation) |
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PeachyJoon04 said: K-dramas are also not made for girls dreaming of having the so called perfect boyfriend. There is a bigger female audience simply because there are more women that likes the sweet relationships that are often in romance and comedy dramas. But that doesn’t mean that it isn’t for guys, because guys isn’t one person and everyone likes different stuff. Vagabond, City Hunter and Kingdom and K-dramas that aren’t lovey dovey and I for a fact know a lot of my male friends liked. Also, nor K-dramas or anime are made to teach you how to get in a relationship or how to act. It’s entertainment. I’m not a nerd because hot guys would think that was attractive, that’s just who I am, sorry if I’m weird and quiet and that acting cute in certain situations in natural for me and I’ve done it way longer than i’ve known about anime or K-dramas. Very interesting insights, I have an MDL account so I'll consider watching these things you recommended Rob7 said: Highlighting the only good thing of all this post. It is really funny and accurate (especially if it is about a looong relation) Am I to think you meant to say you agree with everything on that article? or did I read that wrong? |
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| my good korean friend described them with a lot of hatred. I trust his word. as for my personal opinion, I havn't seen a single one and nor do I care. it lacks the one thing I care about in anime. which is a n i m a t i o n. |
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| Bad story, shit acting, forced drama, isn't any better than some Spanish soap opera. To the people who have the audacity to compare anime with k-drama, you don't argue with them, you just say "Your opinion is trash and so are you". Sorry, but not sorry. Expecting everyone to respect each others opinions, expecting people to not compare? Humans aren't angels and Earth ain't heaven. We will compare, we will judge, we will fight. That's the law of the nature. Now it depends on what you choose to fight for. I choose to fight for anime. So if someone does say some shit like that, I have full rights to throw their opinion in a trashcan and then blow it up with a C4. I fight for anime, I don't care about K-dramas. But since we live in a society, I watched them, they sucked, end of the story. |
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| I love both of them. In fact, I have more watch time of K-drama and C-drama than I do anime. I enjoy stories with a main focus on romance, regardless if they are cliched or not. There are pros and cons for both mediums in that area. However, it's a lame idea to compare two things meant for different viewer bases in general. That's also an egregious assumption you're making that all the older women who are watching K-drama all have minds like little girls. Dramas are for escape and entertainment. There's a reason why K-dramas are all the rage over East Asia after the Hallyu Wave. |
EddyFiendJul 23, 2020 3:04 PM
| Here we go again... |
3miL said: OnionKnightRises said: Anime is a medium, K-drama is a genre. Anime being a medium makes it so much more versatile. I'm hearing this for the first time, I was under the impression it was a medium of its own with genres that just doesn't get popular as the little girls' fantasies, can you elaborate more on why it is a genre? I mean it's a TV show, TV shows are their own medium. While K-Drama is a bit more broad compared to many other genres, it's still a type of live-action TV. Someone might have to correct me if I'm wrong, but mediums are separate ways of telling a story, and while K-Dramas have a completely different feel from something like a Western TV show, they tell their stories in the same way. This isn't me knocking K-Drama, I don't have any problems with it. I don't have much experience with K-Drama, I don't know how versatile it actually is, I just know it doesn't compare to anime when it comes to versatility. The only genre anime can't really do properly is horror, but even then it can still be salvaged if the anime makes it a psychological horror. |
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EddyFiend said: I love both of them. In fact, I have more watch time of K-drama and C-drama than I do anime. I enjoy stories with a main focus on romance, regardless if they are cliched or not. There are pros and cons for both mediums in that area. However, it's a lame idea to compare two things meant for different viewer bases in general. That's also an egregious assumption you're making that all the older women who are watching K-drama all have minds like little girls. Dramas are for escape and entertainment. There's a reason why K-dramas are all the rage over East Asia after the Hallyu Wave. I'm not the one who made the assumptions or comparisons in the first place. It just happened as the convo went through also I never meant to explicitly say that the older fans have minds like little girls even though most of them that I know of irl are just that. That part above is supposed to specifically refer only to the maker of that boyfriend article |
3miLJul 24, 2020 10:50 PM
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| Of course the author is mad that something out there is actually trying to raise men's self esteem. We can't have that, must destroy it. K-dramas can be fun though, I've only seen a few. |
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Every anime, ever, get attractive characters, why nerd guys that live in their basement love anime girls? because they think those girls live in a world where being a shut in nerd and quiet make you attractive and hot girls there looove it Well there are rougher designs and attractive is based on the eye beholder. That said this person obviously hasn't watched much outside of bottom tier isekais and even those the guy is pretty hot himself. Only Accel World is one where the guy isn't typically attractive. Most other isekais the male MC is attractive and they tend be go getters honestly. I could say the same about K-Dramas how they usually have to highly attractive actors to depict their roles. You could say this about any entertainment industry but Korea especially has an artificialness to their stars. Iit always makes me laugh how some animes really are written especially for guys that are anti social and live in their parents house forever and virgin The bad thing here is that it doesn't encourage you to change, it actually tells you it's ok being quircky, weird, quiet, not caring, girls love it, be like that, that's the ideal type for girls in the rl world. The average series written for guys is battle shonen which are series usually focused around changing growing stronger and confident. Secondly why should the end point of getting a cartoon be about getting a girl. I am watching a battle shonen because I want to see cool fights with dudes screaming at each other. I watch space operas to see big space battles. I watch ambient shows to relax. There is more to entertainment than finding someone to bang. So, I don't know, if a guy want to have sucees with girls, he should actually watch K drama, they look way less cringy than shoujo animes, the faces look less weird and they don't hit on you after 5 mins lol If you want to have dating success work out and go talk to real people don't shut yourself up watching anime or K-Dramas. Anime is over the top and unrealistic as are K-Dramas with their over idealistic romantic fairy tails. What people actually care about is do you take care of your skin/hair, are you fit, do you have a good job and are you socially competent. That plus sharing some hobbies and in all of those cases it's about self care and getting out of your house if anything. And the girls there, they don't act weird or quirky, some of them are unconfident, some of them are basically nerds, but they don't show you this is the ideal type and all attractive guys want you because of that, they just put one guy in the whole series that have interest in you, or another guy that might like her too, but you can see they fit in personality, not the bad guy or a super-confident guy love an insecure nerd girl, shit like that Bottom line, anime in half of the cases are written for guys, that love to see boobs, panties, girls liking them, want to get validation for who they are right now even if they're not successful in rl . I like how she bashes the anime fanbase ignoring the reason why many K-Drama female MCs are like that is because their average target audience likely is like that and are self inserting to get their dream BF hardly different than anime with waifus aimed at guys. In large no there is a lot of anime which is why this industry is so appreciated. There are plenty of anime and manga for girls even in boys oriented content which is why Shonen Jump has pretty close to even parity with women. K drama are written for girls, that love see good looking guys, enjoy watching romance, and want to tear up over a good show with good music, we love guys, we know it, they know it. But they don't give me weird ideas about being pervert over a loli, being overly cute, acting childish is attractive, most female guy is most attractive guy being a trap is cool and attractive and ideal Once again a lack of self awareness she just admitted that she watches K-Dramas for attractive guys how is that different than a guy watching for his anime girls? At least they likely haven't been abused. So yeah a woman with a lack of self awareness needing to have a moral superiority kick. You can find plenty of sappy SOL or romance stories in anime. This just shows he own lack of knowledge when she tries to generalize. Anyway my opinion on them most don't really interest me honestly they just seem like generic shojo romances. (if this person wanted K-Dramas in anime that would be the genre to explore) There was that one about the girl ending up in NK on Netflix I was going to give a look though looked pretty interesting. I have enjoyed some Asian dramas like the Chinese adaption of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms (2009). I kinda want to give more history series a look as those seem the most interesting but it's not something I can imagine myself getting super into. In general I am pretty ambivalent to most Korean pop culture but the fans of it in large I don't like. I don't get why so many of them are insanely insufferable self righteous idiots. |
BilboBaggins365Jul 25, 2020 12:33 AM
| I'm sorry, but anime is clearly superior. :3 |
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| "Thoughts on people comparing Korean Dramas and Anime?" It's must not be compared, since they both are different. |
| I need somebody who can love me at my worst No, I'm not perfect, but I hope you see my worth 'Cause it's only you, nobody new, I put you first And for you, girl, I swear I'll do the worst If you stay forever, let me hold your hand I can fill those places in your heart no else can Let me show you love, oh, I don't pretend, yeah I'll be right here, baby, you know I'll sink or swim |
| The only thing k-dramas and Anime have in common is they are both fiction. No one should take either k-dramas or Anime as a compass to direct their life. There is a reason why both Anime and K-dramas are are classified as entertainment because neither of them are reality. |
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Reply to nishant0
I've never watched K-drama and never going to, most of them are just romance drama crap, I watch anime and anime has lot more genres and theme than k-drama, so anime is superior by default.
| @nishant0 They arent tho all the ones ive watched have been dark and serious yeah there's a lot of romance ones but that's not all there is |
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| People are allowed to make bad takes, such as the K-drama comparison with anime, so long as they don't hurt anyone while having said opinions. |
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