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May 15, 2010 4:07 PM
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2nd seed move right there
Nov 26, 2010 12:48 PM
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I... can't believe Kira and Flay actually slept together. O.o
Apr 5, 2011 9:58 AM
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ooooh seed. So the seed breaks, and makes him batshizz crazy.. lol

well i cant believe he slept with flay. hate her. blond girls back i suppose.
May 21, 2011 6:55 AM
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Seed mode basically turns him into a super soldier, or a berserker without the risk of friendly fire. Basically, you don't want to be an enemy near him.
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Aug 23, 2011 2:53 PM
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1st. WOAH! Flay,you whore! :O Though I'm happy that Kira got laid. GJ,soldier!

2nd. I'm in serious danger of starting to like Flay. I have a weakness for psycho bitches xD And she looked pretty sexy with her hair down and that sad/nostalgic facial expression.

3rd. The Captain's boobs were all bouncy in this episode. *strongly approves*

Robbini said:
Seed mode basically turns him into a super soldier, or a berserker without the risk of friendly fire. Basically, you don't want to be an enemy near him.

O_O COOO~L

"Only the dead have seen the end of war".
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Oct 24, 2011 8:35 PM
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zoids. why were there zoids.
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Feb 1, 2012 10:03 AM
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flay is really starting to ruien this show, the thing is she thinks shes controlling him but he already decided to fight for the naturals so basicly shes just became his sex slave and i cant wait to see the episode where he finally rejecs her that the senerio im hoping for
Apr 21, 2012 6:34 PM
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Yup, with some added sex scenes a bit more detailed in the HD remaster lol.
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May 30, 2012 10:35 AM
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Yeah The remastered form had additional sex scenes, not bad XD

And it should start getting better soon...can't wait
Mar 27, 2013 11:11 PM
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What. I found Flay annoying before, but really now? I officially hate her...even if her hate and anger against ZAFT is understandable, I can't believe she is selling herself so that she can "control" him. And the only way she can forgive him is if he keeps on fighting for them? That's messed up. She apparently forgets that she (and everyone else on Archangel) is only alive because Kira decided to help and protect everyone. He's already done more than enough. Even if I don't particularly like Kira that much either, I at least acknowledge his effort and the pain he goes through. Except now's not the time to pick a fight with Sai...
May 4, 2013 8:28 PM

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A lot of hate for Flay from what I know. Ya, they slept together and she is basically a nut right now. Episode was alright for me but felt like another mindfuck.

I'm actually kinda interested to see how her character will develop later on, even with what she has become now up to this episode.
Jul 9, 2013 11:52 PM

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Flay has gone from psycho to....I don't know what. I really really am starting to hate her but I slightly pity her.

I fully pity Kira as he just can't seem to get a break at all.
Jan 13, 2014 5:05 PM

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The characters in this anime is *facepalm*
Feb 10, 2014 1:48 PM
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ha ha, I wasn't understanding Flay but now I totally get the method to her madness. Safest place in the galaxy is between the arms of the most alpha coordinator pilotin the ultimate machine. It's refreshing to have a character that's so deliciously flawed yet at the same time quite realistic in an anime. And Kira, well at least he gets to sleep with the hot girl he used to like to release steam. It's pure biology.
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Feb 13, 2014 4:22 AM
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We finally get to the desert tiger arc. I always though Andrew was a bit of an oddball. And he's also a bit of a coffee nut.

When I first saw this episode I was surprised that Kira would actually go for a girl like Flay, but he is under a lot of stress so maybe he's not exactly thinking straight.

And I hate what Kira did to Sai. He basically slept with his fiancee. That's not true friend behavior Kira.
Sep 27, 2014 7:17 AM

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Sex! sex! sex!
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Sep 27, 2014 7:19 AM

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emeraldrosary said:

When I first saw this episode I was surprised that Kira would actually go for a girl like Flay, but he is under a lot of stress so maybe he's not exactly thinking straight.

And I hate what Kira did to Sai. He basically slept with his fiancee. That's not true friend behavior Kira.
NTR! NTR! NTR!
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Oct 19, 2014 4:50 PM

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>people ITT surprised that a women is controlling a man through sex.

Oh boy do I have a wake-up call for you..
Jan 9, 2015 7:03 AM

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A good episode, the plot that advances both in the mainstream and in the relationship between Kira and Flay.
No surprise that she wants to control it using the loophole of sex, but in his naivete of girl still not mature, forget the real reasons why Kira is fighting.
Not bad storytelling, very credible. Drawings and animations pretty good.
However, it was too short this episode, was to last longer.
Jun 3, 2016 7:17 PM

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Damn, Kira's moral compass is a roulette wheel. For the first 9 episodes, he's whining about fighting a war, and panicking at the fact that he blasted someone. Episodes 10-12, he gets conflicted, now, meh, blasting people to bits is totally fine with him now, and he's getting pretty hasty about going into combat, all in the span of less than 2 weeks. Damn Flay. Sleeping with him just to satisfy your own psychotic revenge... Demon Witch.
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So, Kira oficially is now more sucessfull than Amuro when it comes to woman.

MetalGarurumon with Zaku-like faces? Nice!
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I LOVE FLAY! Not only is she hot, she makes Seed that much more interesting and better. YEAH! Bend that Kira to your little pinky, you will fight and die for me! Kira it's all your fault you got that? Kira has that guilt sentiment, and I'm sure he's ready to make it up to Flay. With Flay, I agree with her that this is how Kira should make it up to her and be forgived. And at least Flay giving Kira free hot sex as small reward <3
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May 4, 2018 3:16 AM

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I'm just re-watching this on vanilla version and now it made me curious more about the HD remaster version...

Will definitely look for that after I'm done re-watching this whole series.


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CodeBlazeFate said:
Damn, Kira's moral compass is a roulette wheel. For the first 9 episodes, he's whining about fighting a war, and panicking at the fact that he blasted someone. Episodes 10-12, he gets conflicted, now, meh, blasting people to bits is totally fine with him now, and he's getting pretty hasty about going into combat, all in the span of less than 2 weeks.

Don't underestimate the royal pussy's power
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Damn Flay. Sleeping with him just to satisfy your own psychotic revenge... Demon Witch.

Yes, this is a COMPLETELY ONE-SIDED
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Jan 9, 2022 2:44 PM

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CAPITULO CENSURADO DE ZOIDS (sexo en la nave espacial)
Oct 22, 2022 3:46 PM

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Fay isn't the only one in a turmoil. Kira out there in seed savage mode

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Sep 5, 2023 1:48 AM
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I can't believe that they did that...

I wonder how Kira's relationship with her will change when he realises her true feelings...
Dec 10, 2023 3:49 AM

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The sex scene was completely unexpected, but an action that makes sense for flay's manipulation plan, in fact Kira has become more ruthless in combat and with his general behaviour, as stated by Ramius.
All to make flay feel protected, making Kira become more and more a killing machine.
Also not a really cool action for Kira to sleep with his friend's ex girlfriend, didn't liked it.
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May 20, 8:37 PM

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that skank Flay is mental but okay i don't blame Kira for trying to pound a little sense into her with the ole mattress minuet
wish those desert dog robots wouldn't have been CGI but it didn't look that bad
oooo another SEED
nice Egyptian desert music for a few minutes there
Jul 16, 11:37 PM
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All these years later and this is till my favorite episode of SEED. Kira the ace is here, before he does the pacifist thing, but after the whininess. I love that teamwork is what saved the archangel.

I've had more than enough time to get over Zoids ending up in a Gundam anime.

The Flay stuff is bittersweet, especially considering what the story does with her as a character.

Most importantly, what Strike does with the Launcher is 100% Gundam ACE level shit. It doesn't matter if it's futile. Shooting down 6 supersonic shells isn't something a regular pilot can do. Plus the way that scene is composed will keep me coming back to this episode for years to come.

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