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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Aww, I love the character chemistry this episode. These girls have come really far in the show and they all developed through their experience together. Closing into the show, they learned so much. It's noticable that Hikari isn't anywhere to be found and with the festivals drawing closer, the atmosphere got somewhat tense. However, I loved the rhythm of the song this episode and it sounded refreshing and heartwarming. |
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| Kinda depressing how there's only 1 episode left, only hoping it turns out to be the greatest. |
| Ah they forced the story to go this way by adding an extra info regarding Starlight. And btw, Hikari is really bad at thinking things through, huh? The same way she shut Karen away during her match vs Tendou, and now this lol. It's still fun, though. Karen breaking apart scene is very powerful. |
Revvie-chan said: Ah they forced the story to go this way by adding an extra info regarding Starlight. And btw, Hikari is really bad at thinking things through, huh? The same way she shut Karen away during her match vs Tendou, and now this lol. It's still fun, though. Karen breaking apart scene is very powerful. I thought the starlight story changed after Hikari made her wish? |
Jacob194 said: Revvie-chan said: Ah they forced the story to go this way by adding an extra info regarding Starlight. And btw, Hikari is really bad at thinking things through, huh? The same way she shut Karen away during her match vs Tendou, and now this lol. It's still fun, though. Karen breaking apart scene is very powerful. I thought the starlight story changed after Hikari made her wish? yeah, the ending of Starlight Gatherer was changed by Hikari. That's why I said it's an extra info, for that slight but pivotal change in the lore changes everything we knew about Starlight, and thus change the whole outcome (back to the "the girls rewriting the story each time" thing, the changes Hikari made this time changed the whole plot and meaning of Starlight Gatherer, which directly changed the system this "Revue" audition has (since it's a mirror of that.)) Now... that change is new. The writer decided to update the story of Starlight Gatherer so that the anime could continue this way. But the new Starlight Gatherer has a rather open ending (Claire trapped in tower forever) so with all the infos we have now, anyone can easily guess: "But then Karen can just rewrite Starlight Gatherer again, and then Starlight Gatherer can get a closed end." Which... is probably what the writer is intending to do here on the last episode: Happy ending for all. Isn't that purposefully driving the story from meta so that it can end that way? That's also why I said Hikari didn't think things through lol. She unconsciously left a loose end. Bcs of many reasons. But she probably didn't mean to be rescued. That's why I said she didn't think things through lol. Well, but unless they wanna put one last sad twist lol. After all, if you want much, you give much in return. Who knows how much will the cost for Flora/Karen to save Claire/Hikari be? |
Revvie-chanSep 21, 2018 4:00 PM
| This episode is a build-up for the climax and it did a great job doing that. The song in the background and the direction make it really easy to understand the chemistry between everyone and how important one to everyone is. I loved the way they portrayed that. 4.5/5 I am really looking forward to the last episode. Karen really can't speak or read English at all, damn... |
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Revvie-chan said: yeah, the ending of Starlight Gatherer was changed by Hikari. That's why I said it's an extra info, for that slight but pivotal change in the lore changes everything we knew about Starlight, and thus change the whole outcome (back to the "the girls rewriting the story each time" thing, the changes Hikari made this time changed the whole plot and meaning of Starlight Gatherer, which directly changed the system this "Revue" audition has (since it's a mirror of that.)) Now... that change is new. The writer decided to update the story of Starlight Gatherer so that the anime could continue this way. From what was a tragedy to Flora, to a tragedy to Claire. (Claudine and Maya switching role is also sign to this.) But the new Starlight Gatherer has a rather open ending (Claire trapped in tower forever) so with all the infos we have now, anyone can easily guess: "But then Karen can just rewrite Starlight Gatherer again, and then Starlight Gatherer can get a closed end." Which... is probably what the writer is intending to do here on the last episode: Happy ending for all. Isn't that purposefully driving the story from meta so that it can end that way? That's also why I said Hikari didn't think things through lol. She unconsciously left a loose end. Bcs of many reasons. But she probably didn't mean to be rescued. That's why I said she didn't think things through lol. Well, but unless they wanna put one last sad twist lol. After all, if you want much, you give much in return. Who knows how much will the cost for Flora/Karen to save Claire/Hikari be? That's what I mean.. Revvie-chan said: Ah they forced the story to go this way by adding an extra info regarding Starlight. They didn't force anything as we already knew they are re-writing their own story. Revvie-chan said: Now... that change is new. The writer decided to update the story of Starlight Gatherer so that the anime could continue this way. I mean, Hikari changed the story not the writer. |
Jacob194 said: Revvie-chan said: yeah, the ending of Starlight Gatherer was changed by Hikari. That's why I said it's an extra info, for that slight but pivotal change in the lore changes everything we knew about Starlight, and thus change the whole outcome (back to the "the girls rewriting the story each time" thing, the changes Hikari made this time changed the whole plot and meaning of Starlight Gatherer, which directly changed the system this "Revue" audition has (since it's a mirror of that.)) Now... that change is new. The writer decided to update the story of Starlight Gatherer so that the anime could continue this way. From what was a tragedy to Flora, to a tragedy to Claire. (Claudine and Maya switching role is also sign to this.) But the new Starlight Gatherer has a rather open ending (Claire trapped in tower forever) so with all the infos we have now, anyone can easily guess: "But then Karen can just rewrite Starlight Gatherer again, and then Starlight Gatherer can get a closed end." Which... is probably what the writer is intending to do here on the last episode: Happy ending for all. Isn't that purposefully driving the story from meta so that it can end that way? That's also why I said Hikari didn't think things through lol. She unconsciously left a loose end. Bcs of many reasons. But she probably didn't mean to be rescued. That's why I said she didn't think things through lol. Well, but unless they wanna put one last sad twist lol. After all, if you want much, you give much in return. Who knows how much will the cost for Flora/Karen to save Claire/Hikari be? That's what I mean.. Revvie-chan said: Ah they forced the story to go this way by adding an extra info regarding Starlight. They didn't force anything as we already knew they are re-writing their own story. Revvie-chan said: Now... that change is new. The writer decided to update the story of Starlight Gatherer so that the anime could continue this way. I mean, Hikari changed the story not the writer. ah. Perhaps you're right. |
| Wow! That was message filled and very symbolic. I love this episode contained inspirational message about starlight dreams and hopes, also failure and despair. Not a bad episode but I still don't feel this entire series. |
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove  |
| Why is the giraffe a stamp? Did I miss something or is that the school's mascot? The cast for Starlight hasn't changed... Waaait....Hikari's missing...are we going to pull a Starlight where after so long, Hikari and Karen reunite but have to go through the play again? Or actually...the class practicing for Starlight...is actually the play itself!? No...the anime IS Starlight! Uhh...if they're doing plays written in English, shouldn't being able to read English proficiently be one of the requirements of getting into the school? Keyword of this episode is "Stage". Interpret that as you will.. Next episode is the last episode. And given how this episode progressed, they're about to dump a whole lot of budget into the final performance. Everybody ready? |
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Pretty sure it means these guys are all perfectly aware what's going on, it's just they cannot talk about it, hence the indifferent attitude. He gave permission for her resignation, which is probably part of what you need before the giraffe will just "let you leave". Because as they said, all stage girls are connected. |
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| Only one more episode left for this show, and that sucks. This show has truly been a gem and this episode was beautiful. Hikari seems to have left and the 100th festival is coming in close. |
| This episode was a bit melodramatic. I don't like it so much. Did Hikari been down there this entire time? lol |
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| So it seems as though only Karen lost her 'shine' from coming in second. At the same time, you could argue that she was actually just feeling that way because Hikari was gone. I think that's actually what has gone down since Hikari re wrote the story, which apparently gets her trapped, but at the same time prevents the audition from literally taking the girls shine and memories away. Silly Hikari should have known Karen would come looking for her. This was quite interesting, and it was nice to Karen with basically no drive. Also Karen was descending to the stage had a kinda surreal vibe to it. Those girls weren't actually showing up out of know where, right? It was probably like a vivid thought, like the stage bringing her thoughts to life (we know the stage can take shape based on the persons actions or shine or whatever). |
| Ohhhh mannnnnn am I looking forward to the final episode |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| boy this episode had a lot to unpack was depressing seeing our main girl so empty but all this build up should make for a great finale. like the small detail of making karen look so serious and determined in the ED |
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| I noticed two things that could be of significance. "The Starlight Gatherer" stated that "Grasping the Star means forgiveness for your sins." And yet, the new addition to the book said "She[Claire] became the new prisoner to atone for their sin." But that's slightly different from what Karen said as she was reading the book. Karen said that Claire was imprisoned to atone for the sin of trying to grasp the Star. So if these statements are all valid, then, assuming that Hikari is playing the role of Claire, Hikari really hasn't grasped the Star, or the Top Star in context of the audition. It all fits together so nicely, because in reality, Hikari didn't take the "fuel" or the "shine" from all of the participants of the audition. This meant that the others didn't have to suffer for their sins of trying to grasp the Star, and that only Hikari had to, given the last scene in the episode. I also noticed that Karen didn't exactly finish reading/translating "The Starlight Gatherer." Looking at the scene around 15:25, where the addendum to the book is introduced, there are still a large number of pages left in the book. And then Karen runs off in search of Hikari. So the story is not over yet and likely won't end in a tragedy like in the original. I'm guessing that in the final episode, Karen and Hikari will grasp the Star together and do "Starlight". |
| hm, i noticed that at the stairs scene, the background changed for each characters' dialog, which was identical to each previous revues |
| For a moment I thought giraffe stole Karen's "shine" for fuel... but I guess Karen's depression happened naturally, because her waifu disappeared. How did Hikari manage to survive half a year in the basement... Giraffe gave her food? And why in the world is she naked? |
| It was an interesting episode although it seems Hikari didn't know Karen all that well... I mean, of course she would come to rescue you. So basically, Hikari took the bullet instead of the rest of the girls, which is an interesting decision since in that way, they all would keep their shine and hopes. Well, except for Karen, who can't live without her due to Hikari being an important part of her motivation. Now, I'm wondering how the story will end since Karen decided to go rescue her. |
| Great buildup for the next and last episode I must say! Really nice episode and I do now really wonder what will happen in the last episode. |
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| Hikari cutting her hand like that. Even the police officers in this show are women lol. Wonder how Kirin got away with having a male seiyuu. Wait. Ironically the starlight is going just like Nana wanted it to. They sure get told about the lead and main roles in advance. More than 6 months. what is a Bananancier even Oh Karen is experiencing the same feelings Hikari did. Ah. Because Hikari chose to lose them herself, it affected her too as her soulmate. Oh my God Nana stop adding Bananas in everything. Oh translating that novel to english actually gave away the hint where Hikari is. Impressive work by Karen. Wonder how much her english skills improved doing that. Again a parallel to how Hikari forced her way in that stairway entrance with the tool. Wow Junna appeared too out of nowhere, as expected of best girl of the series. Oh seems like everyone is appearing one by one by the order of their episodes, okay then. Hikari is naked. I officially don't like Kirin, what is he even making her do. |
| Very touching episode. Hikari was imprisoned for this whole time. Interesting. |
SerafosDec 23, 2023 3:36 AM
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| Damn, it actually did take a seriously dramatic turn (retiring from school and missing in action for six months) . Trying to laugh somehow, i wanted to listen to more of Karen's broken english on the phone. Also, i finally remember to praise the great art style of the ending, and it's because it was used also for the wonderful Love Live Nijigasaki's Neo Sky Neo Map two years later even if i watched it before. |
_untitledDec 28, 2021 6:54 AM
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| So, Hikari disappeared. And Karen is the one who worries the most. I think she has real feelings for Hikari. But Hikari's disappearance is a chance for Mahiru and i think she was happy to spend all this time with Karen. But Karen still thinks only about Hikari. The last part of episode looks like preparation for the boss fight. (Maybe there really will be a fight with giraffe?) After credits scene looks really surreal. And for some reason i have Signalis flashbacks again. |
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