| Self-explanatory title. I would argue this community is quite open-minded for the most part (although some may disagree with me), but of course there are a few topics/subjects that are generally considered to be "forbidden". What are your personal opinions in this regard? Is there anything that you think people should be more open about? |
IrrelevantGuyJun 20, 2021 9:42 AM
| The biggest taboo is to say someone only liked a certain anime with a certain message because he couldnt think of that message himself without watching that anime. Thats such a big taboo because if you say that, one can assume that all anime fans, and especially the hardcore ones are idiots, which they are (me too), but still.. |
dertassoJun 20, 2021 9:32 AM
| Talking about or mentioning western cartoons, shows, and movies. |
| Want some examples... 1) AoT is Crap 2) Ex-arm had the best mouth animation in history of anime 3) Monogatari Series is idiotic Basically what those above me said. |
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| Talking politics of certain anime is seen as pretty controversial. Besides that the loli and shota tag in hentai is often a debated topic. Dub vs sub often sparks debate by people upset over others watching dubbed. Censorship vs localization is another debated topic. |
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| Anything that will titillate people's insecurities about their own kinks. Talking about politics, as if anime hasn't always been a very political medium. |
| Anitubers. Most MAL'ers have a visceral hatred for them from what I've observed in any anituber related threads. Also Twitter and cancel culture. |
Tall_Tapper said: i'd say it's in relation to loli-shota con/ sexual fanservice /romantization of sexual harassment and other stuff, people seem to defend it, a lot, lots of bullshit excuses This is indeed a problem. A recent example of this would be Mushoku Tensei. I have no problem whatsoever with people who genuinely enjoyed the show, but please don't defend the protagonist's questionable actions by saying "it's just fiction bro". It's a terrible excuse. |
| There aren't any taboo topics. The anime and otaku community is super diverse. There is something for everything. Satyr_icon said: Talking about politics, as if anime hasn't always been a very political medium. Most people only want to silence the minions from the femnazi bitch who started the gamer gate movement, you know, calling everyone and everything racist, misgoynist and homophobic. |
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TitanInsane said: +1!!!!! I will never understand most MAL users insane hatred of anitubers. I am not even saying you have to like anitubers but I think a lot people on MAL genuinely hate these anitubers as people for committing the "crime" of making content on YT that they don't like.Anitubers. Most MAL'ers have a visceral hatred for them from what I've observed in any anituber related threads. |
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Kaasfondue said: There aren't any taboo topics. The anime and otaku community is super diverse. There is something for everything. There are, I would argue. You are not wrong in the sense that the community is so large that you are bound to find like-minded people no matter what your views are, but as a whole, I think a consensus exists in the community that forbids people to do/talk about some specific things. |
Adimus_prime said: TitanInsane said: +1!!!!! I will never understand most MAL users insane hatred of anitubers. I am not even saying you have to like anitubers but I think a lot people on MAL genuinely hate these anitubers as people for committing the "crime" of making content on YT that they don't like.Anitubers. Most MAL'ers have a visceral hatred for them from what I've observed in any anituber related threads. I don't understand why MAL hates anitubers so much either. Honestly, they just seem like normal people to me, and I even find some of them to be really charming. |
| talking about why you dislike an anime most people say is "god tier" or "a masterpiece", like AoT or FMA:B. Nobody can have abnormal/hot takes in specific parts of the anime community without being canceled. |
IrrelevantGuy said: Kaasfondue said: There aren't any taboo topics. The anime and otaku community is super diverse. There is something for everything. There are, I would argue. You are not wrong in the sense that the community is so large that you are bound to find like-minded people no matter what your views are, but as a whole, I think a consensus exists in the community that forbids people to do/talk about some specific things. Well, with things like ecchi, loli, yaoi/yuri content the people who want to discuss their problems with it are nearly always doing it to shame the consumers rather than out of any genuine concern for how it affects people who they believe are '''victims'' from those types of content. So of course it's a little bit of a taboo when there are 2 sides who will never see eye to eye. |
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IrrelevantGuy said: Ok here we go.Tall_Tapper said: i'd say it's in relation to loli-shota con/ sexual fanservice /romantization of sexual harassment and other stuff, people seem to defend it, a lot, lots of bullshit excuses This is indeed a problem. A recent example of this would be Mushoku Tensei. I have no problem whatsoever with people who genuinely enjoyed the show, but please don't defend the protagonist's questionable actions by saying "it's just fiction bro". It's a terrible excuse. So they establish that even though he keeps his memories, his brain is still that one of a kid. Maybe youll say that doesnt make sense, and youre right but that has always been the concept of the show. And its not like the show isnt the most obvious case of fanservice anyway. So you take it how it wants to be seen. The guy is a kiddo, and ofc he ends up being horny for other kiddos. Sure he aint discreet, but they also establish that no one in this world is, so its kinda forgivable. The long form of "its just fiction bro" |
Kaasfondue said: Most people only want to silence the minions from the femnazi bitch who started the gamer gate movement, you know, calling everyone and everything racist, misgoynist and homophobic. That could be true if just talking some controversial topic wasn't enough to ignite the fire in a horde of rambling weebs all crying in unison "keep politics out of anime!!!111!!!1!". |
| I've never really been around any kind of communities, until I registered here a month ago, so I have to idea. For me, there are no taboo things, I'm ready to discuss any topics. |
dertasso said: IrrelevantGuy said: Ok here we go.This is indeed a problem. A recent example of this would be Mushoku Tensei. I have no problem whatsoever with people who genuinely enjoyed the show, but please don't defend the protagonist's questionable actions by saying "it's just fiction bro". It's a terrible excuse. So they establish that even though he keeps his memories, his brain is still that one of a kid. Maybe youll say that doesnt make sense, and youre right but that has always been the concept of the show. And its not like the show isnt the most obvious case of fanservice anyway. So you take it how it wants to be seen. The guy is a kiddo, and ofc he ends up being horny for other kiddos. Sure he aint discreet, but they also establish that no one in this world is, so its kinda forgivable. The long form of "its just fiction bro" No, that guy is NOT a kid. Mentally, at least. He still has the mentality of an adult, and for the most part, he thinks and behaves completely like an adult. Yes, he is physically a child, but that does not make his actions okay at all. It would be another thing if the show tackled this issue with a serious approach, but it is instead potrayed in a comedic manner. And this put me off quite a bit. |
eistod said: I always got some "hate" when I said that Danshi ain't funny. What exactly are you referring to, here? "Danshi" simply means "boys" in Japanese. |
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Seiya said: eistod said: I always got some "hate" when I said that Danshi ain't funny. What exactly are you referring to, here? "Danshi" simply means "boys" in Japanese. He is probably talking about the anime "Daily Lives of Highschool Boys", which is Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou in Japanese. |
IrrelevantGuy said: Oof another fella who hates to read everything i wrote and just typesdertasso said: Ok here we go. So they establish that even though he keeps his memories, his brain is still that one of a kid. Maybe youll say that doesnt make sense, and youre right but that has always been the concept of the show. And its not like the show isnt the most obvious case of fanservice anyway. So you take it how it wants to be seen. The guy is a kiddo, and ofc he ends up being horny for other kiddos. Sure he aint discreet, but they also establish that no one in this world is, so its kinda forgivable. The long form of "its just fiction bro" No, that guy is NOT a kid. Mentally, at least. He still has the mentality of an adult, and for the most part, he thinks and behaves completely like an adult. Yes, he is physically a child, but that does not make his actions okay at all. It would be another thing if the show tackled this issue with a serious approach, but it is instead potrayed in a comedic manner. And this put me off quite a bit. Thing is its not a taboo, yall just make it one. And if you hate listening to arguments, it'll stay one. |
Satyr_icon said: Kaasfondue said: Most people only want to silence the minions from the femnazi bitch who started the gamer gate movement, you know, calling everyone and everything racist, misgoynist and homophobic. That could be true if just talking some controversial topic wasn't enough to ignite the fire in a horde of rambling weebs all crying in unison "keep politics out of anime!!!111!!!1!". Most controversial topics are started by people who don't want to engage in fair conversations in the first place so it all checks out. |
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IrrelevantGuy said: He is probably talking about the anime "Daily Lives of Highschool Boys", which is Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou in Japanese. Oh, I see. I've never seen that anime. But just saying "Danshi" is pretty broad, as there's loads of anime with "danshi" in the title, like "Cheer Danshi," and "Sanrio Danshi." |
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dertasso said: IrrelevantGuy said: Oof another fella who hates to read everything i wrote and just typesNo, that guy is NOT a kid. Mentally, at least. He still has the mentality of an adult, and for the most part, he thinks and behaves completely like an adult. Yes, he is physically a child, but that does not make his actions okay at all. It would be another thing if the show tackled this issue with a serious approach, but it is instead potrayed in a comedic manner. And this put me off quite a bit. Thing is its not a taboo, yall just make it one. And if you hate listening to arguments, it'll stay one. ... You are clearly the one who didn't read what I said. Or do you not understand simple logic? You said that Rudeus has the brain of a child, but he so obviously doesn't. Have you even watched the show? Any sane viewer can deduce that he is mentally an adult. And since when did pedophilic actions become forgivable? Your logic is that since everyone else is barbaric, it doesn't matter if I'm barbaric too? What? Edit: I apologize for sounding a bit rude, but your reply really didn't make sense. |
IrrelevantGuyJun 20, 2021 10:57 AM
dertasso said: The guy is a kiddo, and ofc he ends up being horny for other kiddos. ...what the hell? You must have grow up in a weird place. Kaasfondue said: Most controversial topics are started by people who don't want to engage in fair conversations in the first place so it all checks out. Funny thing is, this is exactly what people who don't want to engage in meaningful conversations in the first place tend to say about the other party. |
Seiya said: IrrelevantGuy said: He is probably talking about the anime "Daily Lives of Highschool Boys", which is Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou in Japanese. Oh, I see. I've never seen that anime. But just saying "Danshi" is pretty broad, as there's loads of anime with "danshi" in the title, like "Cheer Danshi," and "Sanrio Danshi." Yeah, but he probably assumed people who have watched Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou would know what he is referring to. This show is very renowned for being hilarious. |
Satyr_icon said: Funny thing is, this is exactly what people who don't want to engage in meaningful conversations in the first place tend to say about the other party. If that was supposed to be a burn it sucked ass, most people being immature and antagonistic online is a fact of life at this point, especially on platforms where most are of young age. |
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Soupisekaitrash said: The pedomonogatari moments probably should be discussed since its really not ok As much as I love Bakemonogatari, I have to agree that one of the scenes where Araragi groped Hachikuji is disturbing. So yeah, your argument is valid. |
| Nothing listed in the topic is taboo. There are many topics discussing those things on a daily basis and not only here. There is nothing stopping you from discussing those things. Taboo more like beating the dead horse. lol |
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| 1- FMAB is childish and everyone know that, but no one admit 2- Chimera Ant (HxH) is boring and unnecessarily lengthy 3- Fujoshis are sick for appreciate men raping each other and need urgently psychological treatment Soupisekaitrash said: The pedomonogatari moments probably should be discussed since its really not ok Even I liking Bakemonogatari, I obliged to agree with this one :( |
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IrrelevantGuy said: dertasso said: Oof another fella who hates to read everything i wrote and just types Thing is its not a taboo, yall just make it one. And if you hate listening to arguments, it'll stay one. ... You are clearly the one who didn't read what I said. Or do you not understand simple logic? You said that Rudeus has the brain of a child, but he so obviously doesn't. Have you even watched the show? Any sane viewer can deduce that he is mentally an adult. And since when did pedophilic actions become forgivable? Your logic is that since everyone else is barbaric, it doesn't matter if I'm barbaric too? What? Satyr_icon said: Oh god this is so stupid go watch an analysis on youtube video or something idkdertasso said: The guy is a kiddo, and ofc he ends up being horny for other kiddos. ...what the hell? You must have grow up in a weird place. The plot in the anime makes sense. However the setting itself obviously doesnt, its a goddamn fanservice isekai. Fanservice never makes sense, its what you want, not what actually is. The only thing thats exclusive to mushoku tensei is that it makes the very fanservice setting its main theme. So you gotta see everything in relationship to that theme. If the theme didnt exist, he would be a pedo. The theme is obviously "if i was young with my today knowledge". So you get the drill, he is a child even though he doesnt behave like one. So in the end its not about the mc, but instead about the theme, about "if i was young with my today knowledge" doesnt make sense, which is true (i hope its gonna be the final message of the show), but the show is not there yet. and pls undertand this shit before you respond, and i know its always easy to call things pedo-bait since it gives you the moral highground and everyone likes having that, but pls |
dertassoJun 20, 2021 11:45 AM
Kaasfondue said: If that was supposed to be a burn it sucked ass, most people being immature and antagonistic online is a fact of life at this point, especially on platforms where most are of young age. That wasn't a burn, just the statement of a fact. You're doing pretty much the same thing you accuse them of by dismissing their point with some preconceived notion. And some of them surely think the same of you. Not that I care either way, these kind of discussions never go anywhere. @dertasso Rambling weebness alright. |
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dertasso said: IrrelevantGuy said: ... You are clearly the one who didn't read what I said. Or do you not understand simple logic? You said that Rudeus has the brain of a child, but he so obviously doesn't. Have you even watched the show? Any sane viewer can deduce that he is mentally an adult. And since when did pedophilic actions become forgivable? Your logic is that since everyone else is barbaric, it doesn't matter if I'm barbaric too? What? Oh god this is so stupid go watch an analysis on youtube video or something idk The plot in the anime makes sense. However the setting itself obviously doesnt, its a goddamn fanservice isekai. Fanservice never makes sense, its what you want, not what is. The only thing thats exclusive to mushoku tensei is not only that it makes the very fanservice setting its main theme. So you gotta see everything in relationship to that theme. If the theme didnt exist, he would be a pedo. The theme is obviously "if i was young with my today knowledge". So you get the drill, he is a child even though he doesnt behave like one. So in the end its not about the mc, but instead about the theme, about "if i was young with my today knowledge" doesnt make sense, which is true (i hope its gonna be the final message of the show), but the show is not there yet. and pls undertand this shit before you respond, and i know its always easy to call things pedo-bait since it gives you the moral highground and everyone likes having that, but pls Maybe it's because of how poorly you phrase your words or your argument is just completely baseless, but you have explained pretty much nothing. How tf is the theme and the setting supposed to justify Rudeus' actions? You are just grasping at straws at this point. Again, you are the one who isn't making any sense. As I have said twice before, it's undeniable that Rudeus is mentally an adult, so it doesn't matter if he is physically a child or not. The stuff that he occasionally says are extremely creepy and uncomfortable nonetheless. And look, I'm not saying the fans are pedophiles simply for enjoying the show, because they are obviously not. But, it's completely understandable why many people, including me, find Rudeus' actions to be questionable. From the gist of it, I don't think this conversation will go anywhere meaningful from here. So let's end it now. |
IrrelevantGuyJun 20, 2021 12:07 PM
Satyr_icon said: Kaasfondue said: If that was supposed to be a burn it sucked ass, most people being immature and antagonistic online is a fact of life at this point, especially on platforms where most are of young age. That wasn't a burn, just the statement of a fact. You're doing pretty much the same thing you accuse them of by dismissing their point with some preconceived notion. And some of them surely think the same of you. Not that I care either way, these kind of discussions never go anywhere. I'm not only talking about my own experiences we're talking about online communities you don't always have to participate you can just observe how people communicate. Maybe you thought I was excusing all the shit every gatekeeping type out there does but no obviously they are of similar nature. So both sides flinging shit was my point with only a tiny minority being civil and having fair conversations. |
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Adimus_prime said: TitanInsane said: +1!!!!! I will never understand most MAL users insane hatred of anitubers. I am not even saying you have to like anitubers but I think a lot people on MAL genuinely hate these anitubers as people for committing the "crime" of making content on YT that they don't like.Anitubers. Most MAL'ers have a visceral hatred for them from what I've observed in any anituber related threads. In my case I see them as no different from your usual forum shitposter except they're more "equipped" with their platform and shit. Which is something they can and do kind of use to influence people's tastes, whether they admit it or not Some of them are also older than most of us so + whatever biases they might have might also rub off on people, denying any possibility of them trying out things for themselves just because anituber a said anime x is shit But yeah, some do make content I like, like Gigguk :P |
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IrrelevantGuy said: Great and im saying that its understandable that many fellas dont have a problem with his actions because to them its just a fanservice show and they dont take his actions literally, and woosh we re best buds i guessBut, it's completely understandable why many people, including me, find Rudeus' actions to be questionable. |
dertasso said: IrrelevantGuy said: Great and im saying that its understandable that many fellas dont have a problem with his actions because to them its just a fanservice show, and woosh we re best buds i guessBut, it's completely understandable why many people, including me, find Rudeus' actions to be questionable. Okay, this will be my last message. Mushoku isn't simply a fanservice show; it clearly has a serious, underlying story that I would argue is very promising. But the questionable parts almost entirely ruined the plot for me. Rudeus is supposed to be a character that you should root for, but how the hell do you expect me to do that when he frequently makes creepy jokes about kids? And being a "fanservice show" doesn't excuse you from including pedophilia in the first place. |
| I think any topic where someone can say "fiction influences reality" or "it's just fiction" is lowkey "taboo". Not for any reason other than the amount of discourse it creates. People only really start those conversations if they want to create drama, in my opinion. |
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IrrelevantGuy said: Perhaps youll like the show in 15 years. Most 30yo target audience nibbas dont see pedo shit in it. So the kids are safe, yaydertasso said: Great and im saying that its understandable that many fellas dont have a problem with his actions because to them its just a fanservice show, and woosh we re best buds i guess Okay, this will be my last message. Mushoku isn't simply a fanservice show; it clearly has a serious, underlying story that I would argue is very promising. But the questionable parts almost entirely ruined the plot for me. Rudeus is supposed to be a character that you should root for, but how the hell do you expect me to do that when he frequently makes creepy jokes about kids? And being a "fanservice show" doesn't excuse you from including pedophilia in the first place. |
dertasso said: IrrelevantGuy said: Perhaps youll like the show in 15 years. Most 30yo target audience nibbas dont see pedo shit in it. So the kids are safe, yayOkay, this will be my last message. Mushoku isn't simply a fanservice show; it clearly has a serious, underlying story that I would argue is very promising. But the questionable parts almost entirely ruined the plot for me. Rudeus is supposed to be a character that you should root for, but how the hell do you expect me to do that when he frequently makes creepy jokes about kids? And being a "fanservice show" doesn't excuse you from including pedophilia in the first place. No, I won't like Mushoku Tensei in 15 years, and I have clearly stated why so, unlike certain someone. |
IrrelevantGuyJun 20, 2021 12:52 PM
IrrelevantGuy said: You did it, i did it, you didnt get it, i rest my case, pm me, we'll talk on discord if you want to get itdertasso said: Perhaps youll like the show in 15 years. Most 30yo target audience nibbas dont see pedo shit in it. So the kids are safe, yay No, I won't like Mushoku Tensei in 15 years, and I have clearly stated why so, unlike certain someone. |
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