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Mar 8, 2021 12:38 AM
#1
I really like shounen but some of them have many issues that gets repeated over and over again. (THIS IS MY FIRST TIME COMING BACK TO FORUMS, I AM SO EXCITED.) |
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao |
Mar 8, 2021 12:39 AM
#2
welcome back I don't hate shounens but the problem maybe with the pattern some shows become too repetitive and fillers are a killers too |
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Mar 8, 2021 12:40 AM
#3
You should also take into account the unique things about shounen. |
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Mar 8, 2021 12:42 AM
#4
Action/Battle Shounen work on the same formula of good guys fight bad guys and win. Probably because it sells really well. There are other shounen too though, it's just a really broad demographic with a lot of different categories under it. Everything from romcoms to action battle to slice of life fall under shounen. |
Mar 8, 2021 12:42 AM
#5
The worst thing about shounen is the MC And that's a fact! |
Mar 8, 2021 12:43 AM
#6
__sobann said: Understable reason my homie, it is repetitivewelcome back I don't hate shounens but the problem maybe with the pattern some shows become too repetitive and fillers are a killers too |
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao |
Mar 8, 2021 12:44 AM
#7
Judevin said: HELLO MY HOMIE, IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME. HOW HAVE YOU BEEN?Action/Battle Shounen work on the same formula of good guys fight bad guys and win. Probably because it sells really well. There are other shounen too though, it's just a really broad demographic with a lot of different categories under it. Everything from romcoms to action battle to slice of life fall under shounen. |
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao |
Mar 8, 2021 12:45 AM
#8
Not all shounen are like that but I can see where you are coming from |
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao |
Mar 8, 2021 12:46 AM
#9
Scordolo said: I do, shounen basically made my childhood my homieYou should also take into account the unique things about shounen. |
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao |
Mar 8, 2021 12:46 AM
#10
PsychoJDM said: LMFAOOOJudevin said: HELLO MY HOMIE, IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME. HOW HAVE YOU BEEN?Action/Battle Shounen work on the same formula of good guys fight bad guys and win. Probably because it sells really well. There are other shounen too though, it's just a really broad demographic with a lot of different categories under it. Everything from romcoms to action battle to slice of life fall under shounen. Been good, my guy. Hope you've been doing well yourself, been a while since I last saw you on here. |
Mar 8, 2021 12:47 AM
#11
The worst thing about shounen for me is the random power-up bullshit that anyone gets during a fight. The fillers are a thing too. As well as the unnecessary characters just to make the roster feel big *ahem* Naruto, BNHA, *ahem* I also don't like it if an enemy comes out of nowhere without any prior foreshadowing. That's pretty much it. I don't have a problem with repetitive stories of a boy who wants to be the Hokage/Number 1 Hero/Magic King/etch. because its the journey that matters, not the destination. |
Mar 8, 2021 12:47 AM
#12
Judevin said: Lol I basically got banned for trolling for a week and forgot that I was unbanned until nowPsychoJDM said: LMFAOOOJudevin said: Action/Battle Shounen work on the same formula of good guys fight bad guys and win. Probably because it sells really well. There are other shounen too though, it's just a really broad demographic with a lot of different categories under it. Everything from romcoms to action battle to slice of life fall under shounen. Been good, my guy. Hope you've been doing well yourself, been a while since I last saw you on here. |
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao |
Mar 8, 2021 12:49 AM
#13
ren0080 said: Hey my wife, how has it been since I was long gone?The worst thing about shounen for me is the random power-up bullshit that anyone gets during a fight. The fillers are a thing too. As well as the unnecessary characters just to make the roster feel big *ahem* Naruto, BNHA, *ahem* I also don't like it if an enemy comes out of nowhere without any prior foreshadowing. That's pretty much it. I don't have a problem with repetitive stories of a boy who wants to be the Hokage/Number 1 Hero/Magic King/etch. because its the journey that matters, not the destination. |
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao |
Mar 8, 2021 12:50 AM
#14
PsychoJDM said: Damn, that's rough.Judevin said: Lol I basically got banned for trolling for a week and forgot that I was unbanned until nowPsychoJDM said: Judevin said: HELLO MY HOMIE, IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME. HOW HAVE YOU BEEN?Action/Battle Shounen work on the same formula of good guys fight bad guys and win. Probably because it sells really well. There are other shounen too though, it's just a really broad demographic with a lot of different categories under it. Everything from romcoms to action battle to slice of life fall under shounen. Been good, my guy. Hope you've been doing well yourself, been a while since I last saw you on here. Good to have you back though. Godspeed. |
Mar 8, 2021 12:52 AM
#15
Judevin said: DO NOT WORRY MY SON, I AM BACK TO MAKE FORUMS GREAT AGAIN STARTING TODAYPsychoJDM said: Damn, that's rough.Judevin said: PsychoJDM said: LMFAOOOJudevin said: HELLO MY HOMIE, IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME. HOW HAVE YOU BEEN?Action/Battle Shounen work on the same formula of good guys fight bad guys and win. Probably because it sells really well. There are other shounen too though, it's just a really broad demographic with a lot of different categories under it. Everything from romcoms to action battle to slice of life fall under shounen. Been good, my guy. Hope you've been doing well yourself, been a while since I last saw you on here. Good to have you back though. Godspeed. |
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao |
Mar 8, 2021 12:53 AM
#16
MCs not killing their enemies. I don't know who you are but welcome back. |
Mar 8, 2021 12:54 AM
#17
PsychoJDM said: ren0080 said: Hey my wife, how has it been since I was long gone?The worst thing about shounen for me is the random power-up bullshit that anyone gets during a fight. The fillers are a thing too. As well as the unnecessary characters just to make the roster feel big *ahem* Naruto, BNHA, *ahem* I also don't like it if an enemy comes out of nowhere without any prior foreshadowing. That's pretty much it. I don't have a problem with repetitive stories of a boy who wants to be the Hokage/Number 1 Hero/Magic King/etch. because its the journey that matters, not the destination. Oh hey lmao I forgot you existed. What's up? |
Mar 8, 2021 12:54 AM
#18
PsychoJDM said: LOOOOLJudevin said: DO NOT WORRY MY SON, I AM BACK TO MAKE FORUMS GREAT AGAIN STARTING TODAYPsychoJDM said: Judevin said: Lol I basically got banned for trolling for a week and forgot that I was unbanned until nowPsychoJDM said: LMFAOOOJudevin said: HELLO MY HOMIE, IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME. HOW HAVE YOU BEEN?Action/Battle Shounen work on the same formula of good guys fight bad guys and win. Probably because it sells really well. There are other shounen too though, it's just a really broad demographic with a lot of different categories under it. Everything from romcoms to action battle to slice of life fall under shounen. Been good, my guy. Hope you've been doing well yourself, been a while since I last saw you on here. Good to have you back though. Godspeed. LET'S FUCKING GET IT THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE LEGEND HAS RETURNED TO GRACE US WITH THE BEAUTIFUL MAL THREADS TRULY A BLESSED DAY |
Mar 8, 2021 12:56 AM
#19
ren0080 said: I AM GOOD, I AM BACK TO MAKE THESE THREADS ENJOYABLE AGAIN ONCE AND FOR ALLPsychoJDM said: ren0080 said: The worst thing about shounen for me is the random power-up bullshit that anyone gets during a fight. The fillers are a thing too. As well as the unnecessary characters just to make the roster feel big *ahem* Naruto, BNHA, *ahem* I also don't like it if an enemy comes out of nowhere without any prior foreshadowing. That's pretty much it. I don't have a problem with repetitive stories of a boy who wants to be the Hokage/Number 1 Hero/Magic King/etch. because its the journey that matters, not the destination. Oh hey lmao I forgot you existed. What's up? |
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao |
Mar 8, 2021 12:57 AM
#20
You don't know WHO I AM? I AM THE MYTH, THE LEGENDARY PSYCHOJDM HERE TO BLESS THIS WEBSITE |
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao |
Mar 8, 2021 1:00 AM
#21
They use the power of tomodachi, when they can't defeat a enemy by sheer power. |
"When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
Mar 8, 2021 1:01 AM
#22
PsychoJDM said: ren0080 said: I AM GOOD, I AM BACK TO MAKE THESE THREADS ENJOYABLE AGAIN ONCE AND FOR ALLPsychoJDM said: ren0080 said: Hey my wife, how has it been since I was long gone?The worst thing about shounen for me is the random power-up bullshit that anyone gets during a fight. The fillers are a thing too. As well as the unnecessary characters just to make the roster feel big *ahem* Naruto, BNHA, *ahem* I also don't like it if an enemy comes out of nowhere without any prior foreshadowing. That's pretty much it. I don't have a problem with repetitive stories of a boy who wants to be the Hokage/Number 1 Hero/Magic King/etch. because its the journey that matters, not the destination. Oh hey lmao I forgot you existed. What's up? Keep it easy lol don't want you to get flagged as spam or anything (๏ฟฃω๏ฟฃ;) |
Mar 8, 2021 1:04 AM
#23
Mar 8, 2021 1:05 AM
#24
ren0080 said: You are right I should chill, don't wanna get banned for the 3rd timePsychoJDM said: ren0080 said: PsychoJDM said: ren0080 said: Hey my wife, how has it been since I was long gone?The worst thing about shounen for me is the random power-up bullshit that anyone gets during a fight. The fillers are a thing too. As well as the unnecessary characters just to make the roster feel big *ahem* Naruto, BNHA, *ahem* I also don't like it if an enemy comes out of nowhere without any prior foreshadowing. That's pretty much it. I don't have a problem with repetitive stories of a boy who wants to be the Hokage/Number 1 Hero/Magic King/etch. because its the journey that matters, not the destination. Oh hey lmao I forgot you existed. What's up? Keep it easy lol don't want you to get flagged as spam or anything (๏ฟฃω๏ฟฃ;) |
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao |
Mar 8, 2021 1:06 AM
#25
snowykevin said: True that, kinda why I tend to give longer shounen lower scoresprobably pacing, because in a bunch of the longer battle shounen series the fights would be stretched out a lot |
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao |
Mar 8, 2021 1:08 AM
#26
PsychoJDM said: ren0080 said: You are right I should chill, don't wanna get banned for the 3rd timePsychoJDM said: ren0080 said: I AM GOOD, I AM BACK TO MAKE THESE THREADS ENJOYABLE AGAIN ONCE AND FOR ALLPsychoJDM said: ren0080 said: Hey my wife, how has it been since I was long gone?The worst thing about shounen for me is the random power-up bullshit that anyone gets during a fight. The fillers are a thing too. As well as the unnecessary characters just to make the roster feel big *ahem* Naruto, BNHA, *ahem* I also don't like it if an enemy comes out of nowhere without any prior foreshadowing. That's pretty much it. I don't have a problem with repetitive stories of a boy who wants to be the Hokage/Number 1 Hero/Magic King/etch. because its the journey that matters, not the destination. Oh hey lmao I forgot you existed. What's up? Keep it easy lol don't want you to get flagged as spam or anything (๏ฟฃω๏ฟฃ;) Oooooof So that's why you just came back lmao (อก อก° อ ใค อกอก°) |
Mar 8, 2021 1:10 AM
#27
ren0080 said: Yep, this is why you are probably not see me doing baity threads ever again...PsychoJDM said: ren0080 said: PsychoJDM said: ren0080 said: I AM GOOD, I AM BACK TO MAKE THESE THREADS ENJOYABLE AGAIN ONCE AND FOR ALLPsychoJDM said: ren0080 said: Hey my wife, how has it been since I was long gone?The worst thing about shounen for me is the random power-up bullshit that anyone gets during a fight. The fillers are a thing too. As well as the unnecessary characters just to make the roster feel big *ahem* Naruto, BNHA, *ahem* I also don't like it if an enemy comes out of nowhere without any prior foreshadowing. That's pretty much it. I don't have a problem with repetitive stories of a boy who wants to be the Hokage/Number 1 Hero/Magic King/etch. because its the journey that matters, not the destination. Oh hey lmao I forgot you existed. What's up? Keep it easy lol don't want you to get flagged as spam or anything (๏ฟฃω๏ฟฃ;) Oooooof So that's why you just came back lmao (อก อก° อ ใค อกอก°) |
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao |
Mar 8, 2021 1:13 AM
#28
PsychoJDM said: ren0080 said: Yep, this is why you are probably not see me doing baity threads ever again...PsychoJDM said: ren0080 said: You are right I should chill, don't wanna get banned for the 3rd timePsychoJDM said: ren0080 said: I AM GOOD, I AM BACK TO MAKE THESE THREADS ENJOYABLE AGAIN ONCE AND FOR ALLPsychoJDM said: ren0080 said: Hey my wife, how has it been since I was long gone?The worst thing about shounen for me is the random power-up bullshit that anyone gets during a fight. The fillers are a thing too. As well as the unnecessary characters just to make the roster feel big *ahem* Naruto, BNHA, *ahem* I also don't like it if an enemy comes out of nowhere without any prior foreshadowing. That's pretty much it. I don't have a problem with repetitive stories of a boy who wants to be the Hokage/Number 1 Hero/Magic King/etch. because its the journey that matters, not the destination. Oh hey lmao I forgot you existed. What's up? Keep it easy lol don't want you to get flagged as spam or anything (๏ฟฃω๏ฟฃ;) Oooooof So that's why you just came back lmao (อก อก° อ ใค อกอก°) F Miss all those shits like man... real otaku are being oppressed by MAL right now. We can't have the same brave otaku who has katana in their back smh |
Mar 8, 2021 3:32 AM
#29
The overly relied on tropes and also the fandom especially the fandom. |
Mar 8, 2021 3:37 AM
#30
Welcome back the fandoms are the worst part for me and thats why i dont associate with any shounen fandoms. @shingojira-san Gojo is a good character but the anime hasn't reached the point that makes him interesting yet. It will probably be in season 2. |
removed-userMar 8, 2021 3:41 AM
Mar 8, 2021 3:39 AM
#31
The stupid actiontards in the fandoms Not giving time for characters and World Building . " Badass " and edgy characters like Gojo are the worst . Btw WELCOME BACK YOU KING . @Xsaderr Right now he isn't anything special nor is he well developed . He's just "cool" . It's surprises me how so many people tell that their Fav JJK character is Gojo . |
Nyess_Mar 8, 2021 3:45 AM
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Mar 8, 2021 3:43 AM
#32
Most stories follow the same way of storytelling/ same plots. In that way, if you watch a lot of Shounen, it might start being boring to you. This doesn't apply to me, but I'm sure that's the main reason. You also have the whole concept of "the power of friendship" that people started to hate, since it's just silly. This is not present in all Shounen anime, but in a lot of them, it is. |
If you're a weeaboo, change. |
Mar 8, 2021 5:28 AM
#33
The ending usually sucks if it even exists. |
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Mar 8, 2021 5:38 AM
#34
Nakama can be kind of cringe? I guess? I can enjoy it a lot of times, but it really depends on the characters. Like...Idk.. one of my favorite dubs to watch is Fairy Tail, and I'm a big fan of the Nakama in that show because Lucy and Happy are adorable and they are always the reason for it and why it exists in the anime. I mean, just saying I like the Nakama here because these guys? I'd fight for them too. wink. The VA for Happy has become one of my favorites of all time as a matter of fact. I mean, I can't get enough of Tia Ballard, and I wait on dubs just for her all the time. Like...still waiting on the Fairy Tail dub even though it might not ever happen, who knows. I won't watch it till it gets dubbed. Same with Log Horizon, she has a small role in it, but goddamn is that the most sexy role she's ever done. |
Mar 8, 2021 5:49 AM
#36
PsychoJDM said: My top 5 issues with shounen are:I really like shounen but some of them have many issues that gets repeated over and over again.
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Mar 8, 2021 6:45 AM
#37
They seem more predictable than other anime. I see myself predicting what will happen maybe 75% of the time. I think there are some exceptions like HxH though, where it is less predictable. |
Mar 8, 2021 6:53 AM
#38
The problem that Shonen constantly suffers is not that it is generic or repetitive, but that it is such a specific demographic that you can already expect what you are going to see without having to see it. This can be a flaw as well as a weakness, since expecting the typical Shonen could generate truthful expectations. Still, I feel like the Seinen is better for that part. Although the Seinen is a risky demographic, I prefer something like that to a show that lacks surprise. I'm not saying that Shonen is lousy, it just seems to me that other demographics have more potential for a certain part. |
Mar 8, 2021 6:55 AM
#39
Mar 8, 2021 8:08 AM
#40
I don't know about others but the things I don't like in shounens are the mcs and female characters, shounen mcs most of the time are plain annoying and female characters in shounens most of the time are either used for fan service or just there basically good for nothing, This is why I appreciate JJk because the mc is very likable and female characters are well written and not just there. |
Mar 8, 2021 8:47 AM
#41
It's a demographic so what specifically can you apply to the whole demographic lol? People say they are more predictable but then all they talk about is battle shonen. It's a wide demographic that people need to stop using it as a punching bag. |
Mar 8, 2021 11:04 AM
#42
Shounen have plenty of bad things: - Too many characters and as a result they don't get the focus they deserve - Close to no character development(especially in long running shounen, and the Protags are way more prone to this). I would say that One Piece is the worst offender in these 2 first points. - Plot holes - Asspulls (think of episode 19 of demon slayer, which was a triple asspull) - Passive protagonists - Bad female characters(I am ok with this one tho ) - Many older ones have fillers - Older ones have Bad pacing - Many of them have a hard time killing characters(some of them like One Piece can't even kill the villains lol) FMAB avoids all these problems because its the best one. |
SinOfSlothKingMar 8, 2021 11:07 AM
Mar 8, 2021 11:26 AM
#43
characters are most of the time boring and cliched, but fortunately there is always(not always) that fun character you would die for so thats the good part. They have repetitive stories, overpowered mcs, terrible female characters and maybe fillers? and you know where most of the fights are just shouting or just pointless, that as well but i, personally still manage to find some of them entertaining so i am not against the genre. |
Mar 8, 2021 12:50 PM
#44
Shounen - romance, thickheaded and doesnt realise when a girl has a crush . Says this and that and does not deliver their objectives. Shounen plot: usually the same with the same theme, school,fight,romance,harem. Shounen- fight, loads if fights, full of muscles, competiton. never give up, a 15 year old character vs a imortal and owning their ass with power up "Never give up" I am not saying its bad but just sooo generic and nothing feels new . I do like shounen but maybe some new ideas should be considered. |
Mar 8, 2021 12:56 PM
#45
Power escalation, when done poorly, is one of the most eye-rollingly awful things in any story. |
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Mar 8, 2021 12:58 PM
#46
SinOfSlothKing said: Shounen have plenty of bad things: - Too many characters and as a result they don't get the focus they deserve - Close to no character development(especially in long running shounen, and the Protags are way more prone to this). I would say that One Piece is the worst offender in these 2 first points. - Plot holes - Asspulls (think of episode 19 of demon slayer, which was a triple asspull) - Passive protagonists - Bad female characters(I am ok with this one tho ) - Many older ones have fillers - Older ones have Bad pacing - Many of them have a hard time killing characters(some of them like One Piece can't even kill the villains lol) FMAB avoids all these problems because its the best one. AOT also avoids these problems.. Though In Content AOT is more of a seinen. |
Mar 8, 2021 12:59 PM
#47
SinOfSlothKing said: Shounen have plenty of bad things: - Too many characters and as a result they don't get the focus they deserve - Close to no character development(especially in long running shounen, and the Protags are way more prone to this). I would say that One Piece is the worst offender in these 2 first points. - Plot holes - Asspulls (think of episode 19 of demon slayer, which was a triple asspull) - Passive protagonists - Bad female characters(I am ok with this one tho ) - Many older ones have fillers - Older ones have Bad pacing - Many of them have a hard time killing characters(some of them like One Piece can't even kill the villains lol) FMAB avoids all these problems because its the best one. FMAB avoids most of these problems...but damn the plot conveniences in that show are mind boggling. |
Mar 8, 2021 1:01 PM
#48
The worst part of (battle) shounen is not something related to the works themselves but in reality an external thing: their fanbases, how annoying some of them can sometimes be and how toxic is to see how they constantly shit each other to fight for the supremacy of whatever battle shounen they're rooting for. That's the actual worst thing about battle shounen. |
Mar 8, 2021 1:03 PM
#49
lelouch4britanni said: SinOfSlothKing said: Shounen have plenty of bad things: - Too many characters and as a result they don't get the focus they deserve - Close to no character development(especially in long running shounen, and the Protags are way more prone to this). I would say that One Piece is the worst offender in these 2 first points. - Plot holes - Asspulls (think of episode 19 of demon slayer, which was a triple asspull) - Passive protagonists - Bad female characters(I am ok with this one tho ) - Many older ones have fillers - Older ones have Bad pacing - Many of them have a hard time killing characters(some of them like One Piece can't even kill the villains lol) FMAB avoids all these problems because its the best one. AOT also avoids these problems.. Though In Content AOT is more of a seinen. Kapp What I dislike the most about many shounens are bad exposition, bland characters, cringy dialogue and insulting story |
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Mar 8, 2021 1:06 PM
#50
lulio3000 said: lelouch4britanni said: SinOfSlothKing said: Shounen have plenty of bad things: - Too many characters and as a result they don't get the focus they deserve - Close to no character development(especially in long running shounen, and the Protags are way more prone to this). I would say that One Piece is the worst offender in these 2 first points. - Plot holes - Asspulls (think of episode 19 of demon slayer, which was a triple asspull) - Passive protagonists - Bad female characters(I am ok with this one tho ) - Many older ones have fillers - Older ones have Bad pacing - Many of them have a hard time killing characters(some of them like One Piece can't even kill the villains lol) FMAB avoids all these problems because its the best one. AOT also avoids these problems.. Though In Content AOT is more of a seinen. Kapp What I dislike the most about many shounens are bad exposition, bland characters, cringy dialogue and insulting story I'm currently watching Hunter X Hunter and I'm pretty dissapointed. Gon is a horrible character with a very unrealistic unrelatable goal and behaviour. I just finished greed island arc..it wasn't bad..but it wasn't too good either. The best part of the series so far was York New arc.... |
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