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I really like shounen but some of them have many issues that gets repeated over and over again. (THIS IS MY FIRST TIME COMING BACK TO FORUMS, I AM SO EXCITED.)
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao
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welcome back

I don't hate shounens but the problem maybe with the pattern some shows become too repetitive and fillers are a killers too
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Mar 8, 2021 12:40 AM
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You should also take into account the unique things about shounen.

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Mar 8, 2021 12:42 AM
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Action/Battle Shounen work on the same formula of good guys fight bad guys and win.
Probably because it sells really well.

There are other shounen too though, it's just a really broad demographic with a lot of different categories under it.
Everything from romcoms to action battle to slice of life fall under shounen.
Mar 8, 2021 12:42 AM
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The worst thing about shounen is the MC

And that's a fact!
Mar 8, 2021 12:43 AM
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welcome back

I don't hate shounens but the problem maybe with the pattern some shows become too repetitive and fillers are a killers too
Understable reason my homie, it is repetitive
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao
Mar 8, 2021 12:44 AM
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Judevin said:
Action/Battle Shounen work on the same formula of good guys fight bad guys and win.
Probably because it sells really well.

There are other shounen too though, it's just a really broad demographic with a lot of different categories under it.
Everything from romcoms to action battle to slice of life fall under shounen.
HELLO MY HOMIE, IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME. HOW HAVE YOU BEEN?
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao
Mar 8, 2021 12:45 AM
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The worst thing about shounen is the MC

And that's a fact!
Not all shounen are like that but I can see where you are coming from
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao
Mar 8, 2021 12:46 AM
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Scordolo said:
You should also take into account the unique things about shounen.
I do, shounen basically made my childhood my homie
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao
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PsychoJDM said:
Judevin said:
Action/Battle Shounen work on the same formula of good guys fight bad guys and win.
Probably because it sells really well.

There are other shounen too though, it's just a really broad demographic with a lot of different categories under it.
Everything from romcoms to action battle to slice of life fall under shounen.
HELLO MY HOMIE, IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME. HOW HAVE YOU BEEN?
LMFAOOO
Been good, my guy. Hope you've been doing well yourself, been a while since I last saw you on here.

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The worst thing about shounen for me is the random power-up bullshit that anyone gets during a fight.
The fillers are a thing too.
As well as the unnecessary characters just to make the roster feel big *ahem* Naruto, BNHA, *ahem*
I also don't like it if an enemy comes out of nowhere without any prior foreshadowing.

That's pretty much it. I don't have a problem with repetitive stories of a boy who wants to be the Hokage/Number 1 Hero/Magic King/etch. because its the journey that matters, not the destination.


I wasted all my time in rewatching to the point of my rewatch total is higher than my overall anime total lmao
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Judevin said:
PsychoJDM said:
HELLO MY HOMIE, IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME. HOW HAVE YOU BEEN?
LMFAOOO
Been good, my guy. Hope you've been doing well yourself, been a while since I last saw you on here.

Lol I basically got banned for trolling for a week and forgot that I was unbanned until now
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao
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The worst thing about shounen for me is the random power-up bullshit that anyone gets during a fight.
The fillers are a thing too.
As well as the unnecessary characters just to make the roster feel big *ahem* Naruto, BNHA, *ahem*
I also don't like it if an enemy comes out of nowhere without any prior foreshadowing.

That's pretty much it. I don't have a problem with repetitive stories of a boy who wants to be the Hokage/Number 1 Hero/Magic King/etch. because its the journey that matters, not the destination.
Hey my wife, how has it been since I was long gone?
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao
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PsychoJDM said:
Judevin said:
LMFAOOO
Been good, my guy. Hope you've been doing well yourself, been a while since I last saw you on here.

Lol I basically got banned for trolling for a week and forgot that I was unbanned until now
Damn, that's rough.
Good to have you back though.
Godspeed.
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Judevin said:
PsychoJDM said:
Lol I basically got banned for trolling for a week and forgot that I was unbanned until now
Damn, that's rough.
Good to have you back though.
Godspeed.
DO NOT WORRY MY SON, I AM BACK TO MAKE FORUMS GREAT AGAIN STARTING TODAY
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao
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MCs not killing their enemies.

I don't know who you are but welcome back.
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PsychoJDM said:
ren0080 said:
The worst thing about shounen for me is the random power-up bullshit that anyone gets during a fight.
The fillers are a thing too.
As well as the unnecessary characters just to make the roster feel big *ahem* Naruto, BNHA, *ahem*
I also don't like it if an enemy comes out of nowhere without any prior foreshadowing.

That's pretty much it. I don't have a problem with repetitive stories of a boy who wants to be the Hokage/Number 1 Hero/Magic King/etch. because its the journey that matters, not the destination.
Hey my wife, how has it been since I was long gone?


Oh hey lmao
I forgot you existed. What's up?


I wasted all my time in rewatching to the point of my rewatch total is higher than my overall anime total lmao
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PsychoJDM said:
Judevin said:
Damn, that's rough.
Good to have you back though.
Godspeed.
DO NOT WORRY MY SON, I AM BACK TO MAKE FORUMS GREAT AGAIN STARTING TODAY
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ren0080 said:
PsychoJDM said:
Hey my wife, how has it been since I was long gone?


Oh hey lmao
I forgot you existed. What's up?
I AM GOOD, I AM BACK TO MAKE THESE THREADS ENJOYABLE AGAIN ONCE AND FOR ALL
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao
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MCs not killing their enemies.

I don't know who you are but welcome back.
You don't know WHO I AM? I AM THE MYTH, THE LEGENDARY PSYCHOJDM HERE TO BLESS THIS WEBSITE
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao
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PsychoJDM said:
ren0080 said:


Oh hey lmao
I forgot you existed. What's up?
I AM GOOD, I AM BACK TO MAKE THESE THREADS ENJOYABLE AGAIN ONCE AND FOR ALL


Keep it easy lol
don't want you to get flagged as spam or anything (๏ฟฃω๏ฟฃ;)


I wasted all my time in rewatching to the point of my rewatch total is higher than my overall anime total lmao
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probably pacing, because in a bunch of the longer battle shounen series the fights would be stretched out a lot
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ren0080 said:
PsychoJDM said:
I AM GOOD, I AM BACK TO MAKE THESE THREADS ENJOYABLE AGAIN ONCE AND FOR ALL


Keep it easy lol
don't want you to get flagged as spam or anything (๏ฟฃω๏ฟฃ;)
You are right I should chill, don't wanna get banned for the 3rd time
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao
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probably pacing, because in a bunch of the longer battle shounen series the fights would be stretched out a lot
True that, kinda why I tend to give longer shounen lower scores
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao
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PsychoJDM said:
ren0080 said:


Keep it easy lol
don't want you to get flagged as spam or anything (๏ฟฃω๏ฟฃ;)
You are right I should chill, don't wanna get banned for the 3rd time


Oooooof
So that's why you just came back lmao (อก อก° อœ ใค อกอก°)


I wasted all my time in rewatching to the point of my rewatch total is higher than my overall anime total lmao
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ren0080 said:
PsychoJDM said:
You are right I should chill, don't wanna get banned for the 3rd time


Oooooof
So that's why you just came back lmao (อก อก° อœ ใค อกอก°)
Yep, this is why you are probably not see me doing baity threads ever again...
Friendship is kinda overrated lmao
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PsychoJDM said:
ren0080 said:


Oooooof
So that's why you just came back lmao (อก อก° อœ ใค อกอก°)
Yep, this is why you are probably not see me doing baity threads ever again...


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Miss all those shits like man... real otaku are being oppressed by MAL right now.
We can't have the same brave otaku who has katana in their back smh


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The overly relied on tropes and also the fandom especially the fandom.

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Welcome back

the fandoms are the worst part for me and thats why i dont associate with any shounen fandoms.


@shingojira-san Gojo is a good character but the anime hasn't reached the point that makes him interesting yet. It will probably be in season 2.
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The stupid actiontards in the fandoms
Not giving time for characters and World Building .
" Badass " and edgy characters like Gojo are the worst .
Btw WELCOME BACK YOU KING .
@Xsaderr Right now he isn't anything special nor is he well developed . He's just "cool" . It's surprises me how so many people tell that their Fav JJK character is Gojo .
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Most stories follow the same way of storytelling/ same plots.

In that way, if you watch a lot of Shounen, it might start being boring to you.
This doesn't apply to me, but I'm sure that's the main reason.

You also have the whole concept of "the power of friendship" that people started to hate, since it's just silly. This is not present in all Shounen anime, but in a lot of them, it is.
If you're a weeaboo, change.



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The ending usually sucks if it even exists.
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Nakama can be kind of cringe? I guess? I can enjoy it a lot of times, but it really depends on the characters. Like...Idk.. one of my favorite dubs to watch is Fairy Tail, and I'm a big fan of the Nakama in that show because Lucy and Happy are adorable and they are always the reason for it and why it exists in the anime. I mean, just saying I like the Nakama here because these guys? I'd fight for them too. wink. The VA for Happy has become one of my favorites of all time as a matter of fact. I mean, I can't get enough of Tia Ballard, and I wait on dubs just for her all the time. Like...still waiting on the Fairy Tail dub even though it might not ever happen, who knows. I won't watch it till it gets dubbed. Same with Log Horizon, she has a small role in it, but goddamn is that the most sexy role she's ever done.
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fillers almost every shonen have it

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PsychoJDM said:
I really like shounen but some of them have many issues that gets repeated over and over again.
My top 5 issues with shounen are:
  • Fights, action driven story telling and martial arts bore me.
  • Everybody in shounen is a teenager with a lame excuse story why the character is the chosen one and so special he skipped regular career development. Alternative: by magic.
  • Adults are idiots, selfless mentors, or comedic relief.
  • Very few shades of gray, everbody is either good or evil, resulting in bland characters.
  • The ever same Hero's Journey story template was sucked dry centuries ago already. That story is entertaining when watched for the first time, but becomes predictable quickly.

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They seem more predictable than other anime. I see myself predicting what will happen maybe 75% of the time. I think there are some exceptions like HxH though, where it is less predictable.
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The problem that Shonen constantly suffers is not that it is generic or repetitive, but that it is such a specific demographic that you can already expect what you are going to see without having to see it. This can be a flaw as well as a weakness, since expecting the typical Shonen could generate truthful expectations. Still, I feel like the Seinen is better for that part. Although the Seinen is a risky demographic, I prefer something like that to a show that lacks surprise.

I'm not saying that Shonen is lousy, it just seems to me that other demographics have more potential for a certain part.
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Well, battle shounen has sucked since DBZ.

Also, many shounen anime are too long.

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I don't know about others but the things I don't like in shounens are the mcs and female characters, shounen mcs most of the time are plain annoying and female characters in shounens most of the time are either used for fan service or just there basically good for nothing, This is why I appreciate JJk because the mc is very likable and female characters are well written and not just there.
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It's a demographic so what specifically can you apply to the whole demographic lol? People say they are more predictable but then all they talk about is battle shonen. It's a wide demographic that people need to stop using it as a punching bag.
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Shounen have plenty of bad things:

- Too many characters and as a result they don't get the focus they deserve
- Close to no character development(especially in long running shounen, and the Protags are way more prone to this). I would say that One Piece is the worst offender in these 2 first points.
- Plot holes
- Asspulls (think of episode 19 of demon slayer, which was a triple asspull)
- Passive protagonists
- Bad female characters(I am ok with this one tho )
- Many older ones have fillers
- Older ones have Bad pacing
- Many of them have a hard time killing characters(some of them like One Piece can't even kill the villains lol)

FMAB avoids all these problems because its the best one.
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characters are most of the time boring and cliched, but fortunately there is always(not always) that fun character you would die for so thats the good part.

They have repetitive stories, overpowered mcs, terrible female characters and maybe fillers? and you know where most of the fights are just shouting or just pointless, that as well but i, personally still manage to find some of them entertaining so i am not against the genre.
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Shounen - romance, thickheaded and doesnt realise when a girl has a crush . Says this and that and does not deliver their objectives.

Shounen plot: usually the same with the same theme, school,fight,romance,harem.
Shounen- fight, loads if fights, full of muscles, competiton. never give up, a 15 year old character vs a imortal and owning their ass with power up "Never give up"

I am not saying its bad but just sooo generic and nothing feels new . I do like shounen but maybe some new ideas should be considered.

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Power escalation, when done poorly, is one of the most eye-rollingly awful things in any story.

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SinOfSlothKing said:
Shounen have plenty of bad things:

- Too many characters and as a result they don't get the focus they deserve
- Close to no character development(especially in long running shounen, and the Protags are way more prone to this). I would say that One Piece is the worst offender in these 2 first points.
- Plot holes
- Asspulls (think of episode 19 of demon slayer, which was a triple asspull)
- Passive protagonists
- Bad female characters(I am ok with this one tho )
- Many older ones have fillers
- Older ones have Bad pacing
- Many of them have a hard time killing characters(some of them like One Piece can't even kill the villains lol)

FMAB avoids all these problems because its the best one.

AOT also avoids these problems..
Though In Content AOT is more of a seinen.
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SinOfSlothKing said:
Shounen have plenty of bad things:

- Too many characters and as a result they don't get the focus they deserve
- Close to no character development(especially in long running shounen, and the Protags are way more prone to this). I would say that One Piece is the worst offender in these 2 first points.
- Plot holes
- Asspulls (think of episode 19 of demon slayer, which was a triple asspull)
- Passive protagonists
- Bad female characters(I am ok with this one tho )
- Many older ones have fillers
- Older ones have Bad pacing
- Many of them have a hard time killing characters(some of them like One Piece can't even kill the villains lol)

FMAB avoids all these problems because its the best one.


FMAB avoids most of these problems...but damn the plot conveniences in that show are mind boggling.
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The worst part of (battle) shounen is not something related to the works themselves but in reality an external thing: their fanbases, how annoying some of them can sometimes be and how toxic is to see how they constantly shit each other to fight for the supremacy of whatever battle shounen they're rooting for.

That's the actual worst thing about battle shounen.
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lelouch4britanni said:
SinOfSlothKing said:
Shounen have plenty of bad things:

- Too many characters and as a result they don't get the focus they deserve
- Close to no character development(especially in long running shounen, and the Protags are way more prone to this). I would say that One Piece is the worst offender in these 2 first points.
- Plot holes
- Asspulls (think of episode 19 of demon slayer, which was a triple asspull)
- Passive protagonists
- Bad female characters(I am ok with this one tho )
- Many older ones have fillers
- Older ones have Bad pacing
- Many of them have a hard time killing characters(some of them like One Piece can't even kill the villains lol)

FMAB avoids all these problems because its the best one.

AOT also avoids these problems..
Though In Content AOT is more of a seinen.

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What I dislike the most about many shounens are bad exposition, bland characters, cringy dialogue and insulting story


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lulio3000 said:
lelouch4britanni said:

AOT also avoids these problems..
Though In Content AOT is more of a seinen.

Kapp

What I dislike the most about many shounens are bad exposition, bland characters, cringy dialogue and insulting story




I'm currently watching Hunter X Hunter and I'm pretty dissapointed. Gon is a horrible character with a very unrealistic unrelatable goal and behaviour.
I just finished greed island arc..it wasn't bad..but it wasn't too good either.
The best part of the series so far was York New arc....
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