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Feb 24, 2021 5:06 PM
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Claire Miller, a 14 year old girl has been charged with homicide.
Just after 1am after calling the police to her home, she told them upon arrival "I stabbed my sister" and directed them towards her sisters bedroom. Her sister, Helen, who has cerebral palsy, was found with a knife in her neck, dead at the scene. Claire was covered in blood and hysterical.
It is still not understood why Claire did this. The police are investigating.
However, upon looking at her speculated TikTok account, she has a large interest in anime, manhwa and videogames. With 30 videos up of her making memes about her favourite shows. She has videos about Danganronpa, Deathnote, Yuri On Ice, OHSHC, Killing Stalking, Black Butler, Soul Eater, Toilet Bound Hanako-Kun, Saiki K and more.
This is the link to her account- https://www.tiktok.com/@spiritsandsuchconsulting?lang=en
Her account has not been taken down yet.
Her account has now been taken down.
However her videos have been reuploaded to Youtube already


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14138060/who-is-claire-miller-what-is-she-accused-of/

Thoughts?

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Feb 24, 2021 5:11 PM
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Obviously anime here is the problem, there's no chance that the kid suffers from mental disorders. I propose that we should make a petiton to stop the importation of anime in the west.
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Feb 24, 2021 5:14 PM
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How am I even surprised that Tik Tok is involved in this huge mess?

It's hard to win an argument against smart people, but impossible to win an argument against dumb ones.
Feb 24, 2021 5:18 PM
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Anime and tik tok, not even once...



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Feb 24, 2021 5:38 PM
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Crow_Black said:
Tik Tok influencers of course not even surprised at all.


She isn't.. or wasn't a social media influencer. Im pretty sure she had less than a 1000 followers on her account before the suspected murder she committed occurred. She has only gone viral in the past few days due to the incident itself. She was a pretty small and casual creator on the app before this happened.

Feb 24, 2021 5:42 PM
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Crow_Black said:
Seijatachiiii said:


She isn't.. or wasn't a social media influencer. Im pretty sure she had less than a 1000 followers on her account before the suspected murder she committed occurred. She has only gone viral in the past few days due to the incident itself. She was a pretty small and casual creator on the app before this happened.



It doesn't matter how much followers they have to me all tik tok influencers are all cringey.


What I am saying is that she was not an influencer due to her follow count. It is estimated you need more than 30,000 followers to be considered one. Before the killing of her sibling and even after, her account has not reached that number.
Feb 24, 2021 5:52 PM
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I think I saw her in my fyp before
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Feb 24, 2021 6:34 PM
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OP where did you pull that title and the paragraphs out of? The articles didn't even mention anything about that. What's next, I bet she breathes air too.



If you're talking about her being an anime fan and Tiktok user, I added it in. While it is not included in the video or article, I deemed it very relevant due to the fact we are on an anime website. However everything I said was true.
It is not necessary or apart of the rules in CE to copy and paste directly from the article you link.

In this video you can see her sister.
https://www.tiktok.com/@spiritsandsuchconsulting/video/6917398635705617670?lang=en&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1
In all the videos, it is the same girl, Claire.
Feb 24, 2021 6:49 PM
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I wonder if he had a Mal account
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Anime and Tik Tok likely have nothing to do with it though.

Either she felt sorry for her or was jealous of attention she got for her disability or it was just the usual domestic violence causes.
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Reminds me of the 80s witch-hunt against heavy metal and "video nasties".

People are always looking to blame something or someone. Anime cannot be at fault but maybe tiktok could be with their dumbass challenges which often include killing as the last one. There's no way someone on the spectrum could stop at 99 out of 100.
Feb 25, 2021 12:25 AM
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These type of stories are always just hilarious to me. Ah the stupidity of humans..
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Feb 25, 2021 12:26 AM

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Ah yes, hobbies are definitely responsible for murderous intents and the like, but only when the hobby pertain to something that community / news outlet doesn't like. Otherwise there's obviously no relation.
Feb 25, 2021 12:26 AM

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I don't think anime had anything to do with her ko'ing her sister


Feb 25, 2021 12:27 AM

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Why is anime or even Tik Tok for that matter relevant to this at all? Its like they are trying to subtly say that watching anime caused her to do this to turn people against anime and drum up support for banning it. And if you don't believe that people are that stupid, trust me, they are.

Why don't we just randomly include whenever a murderer happens to be into mountain biking or if they like reality TV shows for fuck's sake.

Mainstream media is cancer.
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Mainstream media is cancer.

So you didn't watch the video or read the article or the thread? OP added that themselves not the media unless by media you mean social media which technically MAL is social media.
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why does being an anime fan matter?

also she turned herself in right after it happened and was in shock so idk kind of curious to see if this is actual murder or man slaughter.

I'm a take a wait and see approach with this one.
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Feb 25, 2021 1:23 AM

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traed said:
Ryuk9428 said:

Mainstream media is cancer.

So you didn't watch the video or read the article or the thread? OP added that themselves not the media unless by media you mean social media which technically MAL is social media.


Alright, my mistake. I didn't read the article or watch the video cause I thought I got the gist from the body of the OP.
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Feb 25, 2021 1:24 AM
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"anime is a mistake" - Miyazaki? lol

whats her MAL account btw
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QPR said:
Reminds me of the 80s witch-hunt against heavy metal and "video nasties".

People are always looking to blame something or someone. Anime cannot be at fault but maybe tiktok could be with their dumbass challenges which often include killing as the last one. There's no way someone on the spectrum could stop at 99 out of 100.


Yeah, with video games especially it's clear it's bullshit.

being flippant, look at the year Mortal Kombat came out, 1992, and Doom came out the next year. There was a lot of hand-wringing about the terrible effects these games would have.

Then look what happened next, the US murder rate plummeted over the next 5 years. We got the goriest shit now, in films, games etc, but the murder rate in the USA has dropped to about 1950s levels.

So what can we learn from that? Maybe it was pent up rage from bad graphics, since the murder rate from back when Mario Bros was consider the cream of action games was WAY higher.
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I'd stab someone in the throat too if I forced myself to watch such crappy shows.
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Feb 25, 2021 6:04 AM

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Title of the thread is hilarious. It's like those "believed to be ISIS member". Incredible bait.
Feb 25, 2021 6:12 AM

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Like, I dunno, bad jokes aside, I can see how a teenage girl and her disabled sister could end up in this situation. Being a teenager sucks, and I guess every valid children out there thinks his parents prefer their disabled sibling at that age.
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top ten anime betrayals
Feb 25, 2021 6:36 AM

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She watched Yuri On Ice and enjoyed it, pretty self explanatory tbh.


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DrSexy said:
Obviously anime here is the problem, there's no chance that the kid suffers from mental disorders. I propose that we should make a petiton to stop the importation of anime in the west.


No it's clearly the water she drinks. Ban water.
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hazarddex said:

also she turned herself in right after it happened and was in shock so idk kind of curious to see if this is actual murder or man slaughter.

I'm a take a wait and see approach with this one.


I feel like she must've had some sort of breakdown. Her sister is disabled, it isn't unlikely she was a carer for her, that is a lot of stress for a 14 year old girl.
No matter the reason, she's going to prison.
Feb 25, 2021 8:59 AM

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What an evil bitch, burn in hell.

Feb 25, 2021 10:20 AM

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14 year olds these days smh...
Feb 25, 2021 10:23 AM

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I doubt the crusade against anime and videogames will ever come to an end. In the end sadly mental health is a rising issue in across the world.
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cipheron said:
QPR said:
Reminds me of the 80s witch-hunt against heavy metal and "video nasties".

People are always looking to blame something or someone. Anime cannot be at fault but maybe tiktok could be with their dumbass challenges which often include killing as the last one. There's no way someone on the spectrum could stop at 99 out of 100.


Yeah, with video games especially it's clear it's bullshit.

being flippant, look at the year Mortal Kombat came out, 1992, and Doom came out the next year. There was a lot of hand-wringing about the terrible effects these games would have.

Then look what happened next, the US murder rate plummeted over the next 5 years. We got the goriest shit now, in films, games etc, but the murder rate in the USA has dropped to about 1950s levels.

So what can we learn from that? Maybe it was pent up rage from bad graphics, since the murder rate from back when Mario Bros was consider the cream of action games was WAY higher.


3 strike laws decreased the murder rate, and the murder rate for 1 year has been as low as 1950.
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hazarddex said:
why does being an anime fan matter?

also she turned herself in right after it happened and was in shock so idk kind of curious to see if this is actual murder or man slaughter.

I'm a take a wait and see approach with this one.
"Oops, I dropped the knife in my sister's throat."
In what world is doing something you know will kill someone 'accidentally'?

I've heard that she stabbed her in the throat multiple times. She definitely intended to make sure that she was dead.

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A literal sociopath right there. No normal person, or even an incredibly mentally sick person, would stab someone because of x, y, or z, and definitely not intentionally.
People can't be "jealous" of someone struggling in pain and needing a lot to live a regular life free of pain. Those people who get jealous of people helping the hurt are scum, not appreciating how good their lives actually are if they stopped comparing the positives and instead looked at both sides.

And since some people are talking about correlations to things, there is obviously some. Social media doesn't define that all people who like something do that. Still, it's practically guaranteed that those with those illegal interests would express such online, so it does essentially weed them out. Just as much as violence in video games doesn't cause violence in real life, it is a way for those who are violent to express themselves openly. No wonder she was interested in a few sadistic shows, probably took them too seriously, got too much fun out of seeing characters being stabbed. The media's clearly influencing young people quite a lot nowadays. Obsession makes people mad.
Feb 25, 2021 3:26 PM
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Can't wait to see all of the braindead Republican politicians blame art on their murders like they always do.
Feb 25, 2021 3:29 PM

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I don't care to comment on the whole child murder thing,
but I'm just finding out that "Toilet Bound Hanako Kun" is an actual anime title and I couldn't be happier.
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Bobby2Hands said:
I don't care to comment on the whole child murder thing,
but I'm just finding out that "Toilet Bound Hanako Kun" is an actual anime title and I couldn't be happier.


Its actually a decent anime, while lacking in plot it has to have one of the most gorgeous artstyles coming out in recent years
https://myanimelist.net/anime/39534/Jibaku_Shounen_Hanako-kun?q=toilet&cat=anime
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Bunille said:
hazarddex said:
why does being an anime fan matter?

also she turned herself in right after it happened and was in shock so idk kind of curious to see if this is actual murder or man slaughter.

I'm a take a wait and see approach with this one.
"Oops, I dropped the knife in my sister's throat."
In what world is doing something you know will kill someone 'accidentally'?

I've heard that she stabbed her in the throat multiple times. She definitely intended to make sure that she was dead.

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A literal sociopath right there. No normal person, or even an incredibly mentally sick person, would stab someone because of x, y, or z, and definitely not intentionally.
People can't be "jealous" of someone struggling in pain and needing a lot to live a regular life free of pain. Those people who get jealous of people helping the hurt are scum, not appreciating how good their lives actually are if they stopped comparing the positives and instead looked at both sides.

And since some people are talking about correlations to things, there is obviously some. Social media doesn't define that all people who like something do that. Still, it's practically guaranteed that those with those illegal interests would express such online, so it does essentially weed them out. Just as much as violence in video games doesn't cause violence in real life, it is a way for those who are violent to express themselves openly. No wonder she was interested in a few sadistic shows, probably took them too seriously, got too much fun out of seeing characters being stabbed. The media's clearly influencing young people quite a lot nowadays. Obsession makes people mad.

A sociopath wouldn't call police "hysterical"(as the article said) and admitting to what she did and kept repeating herself. This shows a clear sign of remorse. She had a mental breakdown more likely. A sociopath would have either picked a different method to make it look like an accident or reacted very differently trying to pass full blame to her sister.
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Typical cheap headlines for clickbait. How is the one thing related to the other one?

traed said:
Bunille said:
"Oops, I dropped the knife in my sister's throat."
In what world is doing something you know will kill someone 'accidentally'?

I've heard that she stabbed her in the throat multiple times. She definitely intended to make sure that she was dead.

-

A literal sociopath right there. No normal person, or even an incredibly mentally sick person, would stab someone because of x, y, or z, and definitely not intentionally.
People can't be "jealous" of someone struggling in pain and needing a lot to live a regular life free of pain. Those people who get jealous of people helping the hurt are scum, not appreciating how good their lives actually are if they stopped comparing the positives and instead looked at both sides.

And since some people are talking about correlations to things, there is obviously some. Social media doesn't define that all people who like something do that. Still, it's practically guaranteed that those with those illegal interests would express such online, so it does essentially weed them out. Just as much as violence in video games doesn't cause violence in real life, it is a way for those who are violent to express themselves openly. No wonder she was interested in a few sadistic shows, probably took them too seriously, got too much fun out of seeing characters being stabbed. The media's clearly influencing young people quite a lot nowadays. Obsession makes people mad.

A sociopath wouldn't call police "hysterical"(as the article said) and admitting to what she did and kept repeating herself. This shows a clear sign of remorse. She had a mental breakdown more likely. A sociopath would have either picked a different method to make it look like an accident or reacted very differently trying to pass full blame to her sister.

This.

Also relatives of disabled people are often overstrained and don't know how to deal with them. That doesn't excuse her, but she's 14 and might had a mental breakdown.
Feb 25, 2021 9:15 PM

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yeah I saw that, even saw her account rip the person she killed
Feb 26, 2021 8:55 PM

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OTAKU MOMENT

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Feb 26, 2021 9:45 PM

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Anything to obfuscate the fact that your little princess does things like this with a regularity.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/07/health/filicide-parents-killing-kids-stats-trnd/index.html

I used this stat because it fits the primary motives of

Altruism: The parent kills the child because he or she may perceive it to be in the child's best interest. It may be reality-based (e.g., the child suffers from a terminal illness) or precede the suicide of the parent, as the parent feels it would be unfair to leave the child behind to face the cruel world.

Acute psychosis: The parent kills the child based on ideas that are inconsistent with reality. For example, the parent believes the child has been possessed by the devil.

Unwanted child: The parent kills the child that he or she regards as a hindrance.

Accidental: The child's death is an unintentional outcome of parental physical abuse.

Spousal revenge: The parent kills the child in an effort to exact revenge on the other parent.


Even if it was based on acute psychosis and she thought her sister was actually L and about to discover her death note. It isn't much different than your friendly Catholic preacher finishing diddling the choir boys and then giving a fiery sermon about how Jesus told him Bill Gates was putting the mark of the beast microchips in the covid vaccines.
Well except for the fact one unambiguously presents itself as a work of fiction and the other as a universal truth. I will let you figure out which is which.
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What was the reason she killed her sister-disabled , the most I can think is she was jealous of her sister getting more attention and care as she was disabled and the jealousy may have evolved into envy and then pure hatred.
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revzy said:
She watched Yuri On Ice and enjoyed it, pretty self explanatory tbh.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO This reply took the cake jesus im crying at 3am


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Found some more info on it. Not much to ad here but further supports my suspicions.

Police said they heard from a witness at 1:42 a.m. that the witness previously had been communicating with Claire Miller on the phone and that the teen was having “suicidal and homicidal thoughts.”
https://www.pennlive.com/news/2021/02/teen-had-suicidal-and-homicidal-thoughts-the-night-her-older-sister-was-stabbed-to-death-records.html
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It's a really sad and tragic story.

I imagine it is because her sister had a disability. She had this evil thought that she didn't want to be burdened with the responsibility of taking care of her. It's true for people who kill their kids or disabled family members.

But in my opinion, it's no excuse to kill or harm others for having a disability. Everyone should be treated with respect and dignity. It's a very sad story. Hope her sister rests in peace.
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Ummm...what does her being an anime fan have ANYTHING to do with this event?

Let's see...

I'm an anime fan, sports fan, I love to travel, I'm interested in investing, I like to fuck women, but I also like traps....

Like, what the hell does any of this have anything to do with anything?!

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--ALEX-- said:
Ummm...what does her being an anime fan have ANYTHING to do with this event?

Let's see...

I'm an anime fan, sports fan, I love to travel, I'm interested in investing, I like to fuck women, but I also like traps....

Like, what the hell does any of this have anything to do with anything?!

Bait to get more replys I guess nonetheless still tragic.


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