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Feb 12, 2021 3:25 AM
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Shows like One Piece, Bleach, and Detective Conan for example are blocked in one so rating per season is impossible while Attack on Titan, Haikyuu, and Gintama have their separate sections. I don't know why that is so...I can understand with Gintama because of the name difference..is it the long gap in release dates perhap?

Anyway to the question how do you rate the show that have separate sections? Do you rate it as standalones or do you take into account what the past season has given especially if it's a continuation of the story? Is it even possible to view 2nd seasons and so forth as something separate especially if it's a serial and not episodic?
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Feb 12, 2021 3:32 AM
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I rate them based on continuity, a season has to be total garbage in order to affect its rating. for snk I rate it the same all seasons and as for psycho pass, each season is rated differently because s2 and s3 are not that good and total garbage but it doesn't affect how good s1 was
a different example would be jashin chan, I rated s1 at 7 but s2 was so good that it deserved an 8, so I also changed s1 score to 8 because looking at it as having double the episodes it's way more fun and complete and it's not like it was bad, it was good too.
Feb 12, 2021 3:33 AM
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I rate each season as its own show but I do want continuity if it isnt episodic. Sometimes the final season I will rate a show based on its entirety if it is one continuous plot.
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kklao said:
Shows like One Piece, Bleach, and Detective Conan for example are blocked in one so rating per season is impossible while Attack on Titan, Haikyuu, and Gintama have their separate sections. I don't know why that is so...I can understand with Gintama because of the name difference..is it the long gap in release dates perhap?

It's simply how they release it. One Piece airs weekly and so it isn't separated by season. While something like My Hero Academia for instance airs seasonally. Meaning they will produce either single cour (1 season = ~12 episodes) or double cour (2 seasons = ~24 episodes ) and then stop. So it's separated by multiple seasons.

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Anyway to the question how do you rate the show that have separate sections? Do you rate it as standalones or do you take into account what the past season has given especially if it's a continuation of the story? Is it even possible to view 2nd seasons and so forth as something separate especially if it's a serial and not episodic?

I take into account the past season if it's important for the current one I'm rating. If I love the first season, then the second season which is a direct continuation turns out to be extremely disappointing, then I will rate it lower than I would if I rated is as a standalone.
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Feb 12, 2021 3:39 AM
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Standalone with a few continuing points. I mean, I rate differently since we're going to watch new things but we need past seasons to know if the new things makes sense or not. For fans of the show, a rewatch can help a lot. I don't need to rewatch except if its a short recap and I'm interested.
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Feb 12, 2021 3:39 AM
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It's kinda hard for me to say considering I have mostly watched standalone shows, but I guess a little bit of both?

And yes, why AoT is separated by seasons on MAL is because of the difference between each season's airing date.
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Feb 12, 2021 3:43 AM
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I rate each season as a standalone entry and do not let my like or dislike of the past seasons affect my score.
For example:- The first season of Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya is an average anime and I have rated it a 5 while the second season is an absolute disaster so I gave it a 2. The disappearance movie on the other hand is an absolutely incredible anime movie so I gave it an 8.
Feb 12, 2021 3:50 AM
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I rate how it supposed to rated

Single entries like one piece, bleach detective conan are rated it as a whole thing

While entries with different season ( like aot, haikyuu) are rated for its particular season. (thought most of the times the difference between rating of different season would not be much, at max of +/-2, because its the same anime it not gone be much different). This format actually helps sometimes, if I think a series with 2 season overall rating is 8.5, then one season is 8 and another is given 9.
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Feb 12, 2021 5:24 AM
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Depend on my mood and situation. If i binge watching all the season i will only rate the first season.

If i watch the sequel later i will rate it base on quality and enjoyment i get from every season.
Feb 12, 2021 5:25 AM
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i rate each season differently but the scores carry over from the previous seasons a bit
Feb 12, 2021 5:37 AM

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I rate each season differently but it can be influenced by the previous ones (that kinda happened with Gintama, I loved every part of Gintama but the Slip Arc and the first part of the Silver Soul arc weren't as good as the rest of the series so I gave them a lower rating)

And that's even more the case when there's a huge quality gap between two seasons, One Punch Man is a perfect example


But honestly I wouldn't mind if long-running series were separated in different entries, because some arcs in One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Black Clover or even Fairy Tail aren't as good as others so it's kinda difficult to rate those anime as a whole
Feb 12, 2021 5:42 AM

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I do a mixture of both I guess..

I don't like rating it as a standalone because it is a continuation of the previous seasons. Its not like there are only new characters every single season.

If the season is better than the last I rate it higher. If its just as good I rate it the same. If its worse I rate it lower.
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Each season gets it's own rating. The tricky aspect is that I don't just compare the entry with other non-related anime. There's also an additional component, specifically that I weigh it against other franchise-internal entries on top.

Let's take AoT S3PT1 for example. Just by comparing it to other anime it would be a 9. Against the other AoT parts it's just an 8 to me, tho.

My ratings for Gintama are all over the place. On one hand I became more and more fond of it over the seasons, but the Silver Soul arc was a decline for me again. Still, if it was single entry I would give it a 9 overall(as I did with the manga, the ending played a partas well) Even if the average for all seasons would be lower.

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I typically rate anime seasons as standalones since the content and focus of each season typically varies.
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It depends tbh.

I rated Higurashi and Higurashi Kai as one, cause you could basically just combine them to create one anime with >50 episodes (and you honestly kinda have too, cause season 1 can't really stand alone from a narrative stand point).

While most other shows also continue the story of their previous seasons, the first season would also be able to stand alone (The Promised Neverland for example), which is why I rate them seperately and as standalones.
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Feb 12, 2021 7:01 AM

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I rate a season as only the content within, but taking into account the presence of the preceding season. As in, the sequel can get away with not explaining the world and plot, or not introducing the returning characters.
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Feb 12, 2021 7:51 AM

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If it’s capable of standing alone, I rate it as a standalone. Otherwise, I take the whole series into account.
And that’s why I don’t rate any movie series. The Kizumonogatari movies don’t feel like 3 different anime; they’re 3 episodes of a single anime. Scoring each movie would be akin to scoring the 37 individual episodes of Death Note.
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Feb 12, 2021 8:07 AM
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Little bit of both. Since specific arcs can make or break a season, kind of like how MHA S2 I still think is good but MHA S4 was pretty pathetic.
Feb 12, 2021 8:09 AM

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I rate every season as it's own thing. Season 1 can be good while season 2 can be awful. As an example Index s3 was atrocious while Index s1 and 2 were ok.
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I try to rate each as it's own entry. Sometimes it's hard to remember what happened in which season in the case of shows I haven't seen in a while, so those I might need to rewatch.

Recent examples of why this was important in scoring are Is The Order a Rabbit Season 3 and SNAFU Season 3, as I have their first 2 seasons scored much higher than these latest seasons. And the opposite can be said about Clannad, where Season 1 is a much lower score than it's second season Clannad: Afterstory.
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I rate a season as only the content within, but taking into account the presence of the preceding season. As in, the sequel can get away with not explaining the world and plot, or not introducing the returning characters.

Yeah, that's a good way to look at it. I try to do that to in most cases.

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Feb 12, 2021 8:27 AM

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I rate based on the last arc that I had seen. Then I make a general score based on all of the arcs scores.
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Idk but for animes with several season MAL reslly should try to add an AVERAGE /OVERALL score too, like REAL SERIES DO... that way you can have

Example : aot season 1 ... 8,48 ... amount of users 1,715,339
Season 2 ... 8,44 ... amount of users 1,003,285 ( - 712.054 users)
Season 3 ... 8,59 ... amount of users 748,520 ( - 254.765 users)
S 3 pt 2 ... 9,10 ... amount of users 700,075 ( - 48.445 users in same season )
S finale ... 9,17 ... amount of users 276.010 ( - 424.065 is airing so i asume will increased)

Average /overall = 8,756 ... so the score will include all season.

Now why you asked, cuz is a whole show with a continuity ... like GOT, and all series with seversl season on idbm , you got GENERAL SCORE OF THE SHOW AND then i dividual rating ... episode rating will be asking to much from mal staff

They have so much issues avoiding voting brigade . Why do i use AoT as example, to make it short cuz im annoying on how they act that their score is better than any show WHEN IS HAS SIGNIFICALLY less users than other shows, will lead in increaisng of the RATING, which is an ilusion since only loyal fans stay voting 10/10 and people who drop it didnt review, look at the ampunt of people who have drop this show. If is such a masterpiece, why many people leave it ???

Casual viewers who cuould rste this show 7 or 8 also leave, avoiding to low the score BUT ANYWAY, WITH ALL THIS FACTS, REAL PROOF AOT fans blame full metal alchemist fandom for their scoring decreasing , DUDE BE REAL, MORE PEOPLE WILL WATCH IT LATER, THEREFORD score itsome will find it good and score it 7, who knows, i never seen such an entitled fandom before, that instead of realising for all people will score 10/10 they blame it on OTHERS and their

Conspiro paranoic delusion that MAL is rigid or benefic a 1 year old show that score 9 in japan last year of most BELOVED MANGAS EVER... 12 year old manga , respect your elders hahahah

You dont have to like it but score it 1 out pf 10 is ridiculous and just show how inmature in general are tye new users of this site, they are making so hard fpr general public to believe in the scoring system.
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Mostly on it's own but in part as part of a series. It needs to have a consistency to previous incarnations but I prefer to make a judgement based on current quality.
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I guess both of them, I don't like seeing second seasons that only feed off the previous stuff and add nothing new to the table, But on the other hand seasons that completely change things and don't continue on certain points of the previous episodes are also not that good imo
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Feb 12, 2021 11:30 AM
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I rate them as standalone pieces if they are divided up that why on MAL. It's definitely way easier to do when you're watching it as it airs, so there's plenty of time in between each season. & assuming the story doesn't take some crazy change in a new season, I will say the ratings typically stay within a very close range as the previous season. However, sometimes the quality does greatly change between seasons (for example, my rating of S1 of Food Wars and S3 Part 2 are dramatically different), and that's why I don't mind rating each season as it's own standalone thing.

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Most definitely continuity, it’s a sequel for a reason.
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Noir_Alchemist said:
Idk but for animes with several season MAL reslly should try to add an AVERAGE /OVERALL score too, like REAL SERIES DO... that way you can have

Example : aot season 1 ... 8,48 ... amount of users 1,715,339
Season 2 ... 8,44 ... amount of users 1,003,285 ( - 712.054 users)
Season 3 ... 8,59 ... amount of users 748,520 ( - 254.765 users)
S 3 pt 2 ... 9,10 ... amount of users 700,075 ( - 48.445 users in same season )
S finale ... 9,17 ... amount of users 276.010 ( - 424.065 is airing so i asume will increased)

Average /overall = 8,756 ... so the score will include all season.

Now why you asked, cuz is a whole show with a continuity ... like GOT, and all series with seversl season on idbm , you got GENERAL SCORE OF THE SHOW AND then i dividual rating ... episode rating will be asking to much from mal staff

They have so much issues avoiding voting brigade . Why do i use AoT as example, to make it short cuz im annoying on how they act that their score is better than any show WHEN IS HAS SIGNIFICALLY less users than other shows, will lead in increaisng of the RATING, which is an ilusion since only loyal fans stay voting 10/10 and people who drop it didnt review, look at the ampunt of people who have drop this show. If is such a masterpiece, why many people leave it ???

Casual viewers who cuould rste this show 7 or 8 also leave, avoiding to low the score BUT ANYWAY, WITH ALL THIS FACTS, REAL PROOF AOT fans blame full metal alchemist fandom for their scoring decreasing , DUDE BE REAL, MORE PEOPLE WILL WATCH IT LATER, THEREFORD score itsome will find it good and score it 7, who knows, i never seen such an entitled fandom before, that instead of realising for all people will score 10/10 they blame it on OTHERS and their

Conspiro paranoic delusion that MAL is rigid or benefic a 1 year old show that score 9 in japan last year of most BELOVED MANGAS EVER... 12 year old manga , respect your elders hahahah

You dont have to like it but score it 1 out pf 10 is ridiculous and just show how inmature in general are tye new users of this site, they are making so hard fpr general public to believe in the scoring system.


I accept your challenge!

First read this post https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1886517&show=0#post36

Now I will make a counter argument to what you said, fmab and hxh for example, if we separate them into 12 and 25 episode seasons, those seasons would be way lower and its true, when these series had like 30 episodes airing they were not even above 8.30 at the time, but as more episodes are released the score users change their score and increase it.

I think its unfair to say snk rating as a collection would be 8.7 if we combine all seasons, why? Because it would only give completed series a big advantage, like hxh and fmab for example, hxh and fmab wasn't a 10/10 for most users in the beginning or even in the middle portion of the series so series like hxh and fmab score wont drop because its only single entry. The users that were giving hxh and fmab a 7/10 when they were at episode 30 for example score wont be included, why? Because they have changed their score to a 9 or 10 once they have reached later arcs or have completed it, so no records of those previous score are saved, but for snk, they have the records of the earlier arcs because of the series having seasons, so you see my argument here?

You didn't thought of that didn't you? In the end if hypothetically speaking, if snk was a series like fmab and hxh, it would probably be close to the score it is now, because users would eventually change their score as they watch more episodes.

hxh 2011 score jump from 8.60 to over 9.00 after the chimera ant arc, snk jump from 8.50 to over 9.00 after the basement arc aka snk season 3 part 2, in truth being a sequel make them have the same playing field.
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I rate only the first season, that score represents the whole show. However, when something is so appalling that may affect the rest, I score separately, as already mentioned here, Psycho-Pass first season is great whereas the second is horrible.
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I rate every season individually/separately for the most part.

However, I also consider how the season sets up the plot and character development for future seasons.

This is easier done for a series that has multiple seasons already aired, since you can more clearly see what previous seasons contribute to their successors.
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I think in truth it's continuity, but most users whether including myself whether we realise it or not score based on recency bias, so I will use hxh for example(and this is how I think most users score as well) so early on in hxh 2011 I rated it a 6/10, when the heavens arc was released I increase my score to a 7/10 and when I watched the Yorknew arc, I jump my score to a 10/10, so despite me rating the previous arcs 7 and 6 out of 10, I simple ignore those arcs and score it a 10/10 because the latest arv was just that good, unfortunately the chimera ant arc for me was really average and I had to decrease my score from a 10/10 to a 7/10, although my opinion is unpopular most users think that Arc is the best arc, hence hxh rating increase in the 9.00 range.

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I rate only the first season, that score represents the whole show. However, when something is so appalling that may affect the rest, I score separately, as already mentioned here, Psycho-Pass first season is great whereas the second is horrible.


And if the seasons were joined as if, season 1 for that season was finish and just co time to season. 2 content, what would be the overall score then? I think you would have gave it either a 4 or 5/10, am I correct?

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sometimes different scores to different seasons, other times the same score to all the seasons, I have no rules for this
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I rate anime seasons as standalone due to the fact that a previous season can be an absolute masterpiece/garbage, while the next one could be the opposite. I usually try to avoid having my rating of previous seasons affect the rating of the next though unless I think it's bad.
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keragamming said:
Noir_Alchemist said:
Idk but for animes with several season MAL reslly should try to add an AVERAGE /OVERALL score too, like REAL SERIES DO... that way you can have

Example : aot season 1 ... 8,48 ... amount of users 1,715,339
Season 2 ... 8,44 ... amount of users 1,003,285 ( - 712.054 users)
Season 3 ... 8,59 ... amount of users 748,520 ( - 254.765 users)
S 3 pt 2 ... 9,10 ... amount of users 700,075 ( - 48.445 users in same season )
S finale ... 9,17 ... amount of users 276.010 ( - 424.065 is airing so i asume will increased)

Average /overall = 8,756 ... so the score will include all season.

Now why you asked, cuz is a whole show with a continuity ... like GOT, and all series with seversl season on idbm , you got GENERAL SCORE OF THE SHOW AND then i dividual rating ... episode rating will be asking to much from mal staff

They have so much issues avoiding voting brigade . Why do i use AoT as example, to make it short cuz im annoying on how they act that their score is better than any show WHEN IS HAS SIGNIFICALLY less users than other shows, will lead in increaisng of the RATING, which is an ilusion since only loyal fans stay voting 10/10 and people who drop it didnt review, look at the ampunt of people who have drop this show. If is such a masterpiece, why many people leave it ???

Casual viewers who cuould rste this show 7 or 8 also leave, avoiding to low the score BUT ANYWAY, WITH ALL THIS FACTS, REAL PROOF AOT fans blame full metal alchemist fandom for their scoring decreasing , DUDE BE REAL, MORE PEOPLE WILL WATCH IT LATER, THEREFORD score itsome will find it good and score it 7, who knows, i never seen such an entitled fandom before, that instead of realising for all people will score 10/10 they blame it on OTHERS and their

Conspiro paranoic delusion that MAL is rigid or benefic a 1 year old show that score 9 in japan last year of most BELOVED MANGAS EVER... 12 year old manga , respect your elders hahahah

You dont have to like it but score it 1 out pf 10 is ridiculous and just show how inmature in general are tye new users of this site, they are making so hard fpr general public to believe in the scoring system.


I accept your challenge!

First read this post https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1886517&show=0#post36

Now I will make a counter argument to what you said, fmab and hxh for example, if we separate them into 12 and 25 episode seasons, those seasons would be way lower and its true, when these series had like 30 episodes airing they were not even above 8.30 at the time, but as more episodes are released the score users change their score and increase it.

I think its unfair to say snk rating as a collection would be 8.7 if we combine all seasons, why? Because it would only give completed series a big advantage, like hxh and fmab for example, hxh and fmab wasn't a 10/10 for most users in the beginning or even in the middle portion of the series so series like hxh and fmab score wont drop because its only single entry. The users that were giving hxh and fmab a 7/10 when they were at episode 30 for example score wont be included, why? Because they have changed their score to a 9 or 10 once they have reached later arcs or have completed it, so no records of those previous score are saved, but for snk, they have the records of the earlier arcs because of the series having seasons, so you see my argument here?

You didn't thought of that didn't you? In the end if hypothetically speaking, if snk was a series like fmab and hxh, it would probably be close to the score it is now, because users would eventually change their score as they watch more episodes.

hxh 2011 score jump from 8.60 to over 9.00 after the chimera ant arc, snk jump from 8.50 to over 9.00 after the basement arc aka snk season 3 part 2, in truth being a sequel make them have the same playing field.


Dude deal with it, i used available data, real facts, i just calculate the average score of all the season

why, JUST WHY, would you hipotetically make hunter x hunter or fmab a seasonal anime ??? Dude is a whole show , and is hardernto have a nice score when people who only saw 3 episodes rate it as they pleasednand left.

You are missing the whole point
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Noir_Alchemist said:
keragamming said:


I accept your challenge!

First read this post https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1886517&show=0#post36

Now I will make a counter argument to what you said, fmab and hxh for example, if we separate them into 12 and 25 episode seasons, those seasons would be way lower and its true, when these series had like 30 episodes airing they were not even above 8.30 at the time, but as more episodes are released the score users change their score and increase it.

I think its unfair to say snk rating as a collection would be 8.7 if we combine all seasons, why? Because it would only give completed series a big advantage, like hxh and fmab for example, hxh and fmab wasn't a 10/10 for most users in the beginning or even in the middle portion of the series so series like hxh and fmab score wont drop because its only single entry. The users that were giving hxh and fmab a 7/10 when they were at episode 30 for example score wont be included, why? Because they have changed their score to a 9 or 10 once they have reached later arcs or have completed it, so no records of those previous score are saved, but for snk, they have the records of the earlier arcs because of the series having seasons, so you see my argument here?

You didn't thought of that didn't you? In the end if hypothetically speaking, if snk was a series like fmab and hxh, it would probably be close to the score it is now, because users would eventually change their score as they watch more episodes.

hxh 2011 score jump from 8.60 to over 9.00 after the chimera ant arc, snk jump from 8.50 to over 9.00 after the basement arc aka snk season 3 part 2, in truth being a sequel make them have the same playing field.


Dude deal with it, i used available data, real facts, i just calculate the average score of all the season

why, JUST WHY, would you hipotetically make hunter x hunter or fmab a seasonal anime ??? Dude is a whole show , and is hardernto have a nice score when people who only saw 3 episodes rate it as they pleasednand left.

You are missing the whole point


You clearly didn't read my the post of the link I sent you, so I will just give u a summary.

Even if all those users that gave snk season 1 a 1-6/10 returns that still will do little to affect the overall score(Also assuming these users don't give snk later season an higher score, but let's play your game) those are less than 5% of the overall score, most users on mal score between 7-10 which means those votes are the ones that decide the overall score of a season, the only difference between snk final season and snk season 1, is that percentage wise its getting more 10/10 votes than 8/10 and 9/10 votes, that's literally the only difference, Most users were not convince snk season 1 was a 10/10 anime hence why the percentage are so close each other for 10/10, 9/10 and 8/10 votes.

why, JUST WHY, would you hipotetically make hunter x hunter or fmab a seasonal anime ??? Dude is a whole show , and is hardernto have a nice score when people who only saw 3 episodes rate it as they pleasednand left.


Yes, and that is the very point, hxh 2011 and fmab don't have those available data anymore to be used against it in its earlier arcs either.

Your argument is that if we were to combine all seasons of snk then it wouldn't be rated so high correct? But the thing is many of those users don't see snk as a 6/10 or 7/10 anymore for example, so how is it fair to use old data of what persons thought of the series back then? There is no difference between a sequel or full series, its the same concept if snk was an ongoing series this the same way it would play out, people would give it 7/10 and 8/10 in season 1 for example but by time they reach episode 58, there score would change to probably a 9/10 or 10/10. The only difference here is that they are separate that is it.

You can ask many users, no users thought hxh 2011 or fmab to be a 10/10 from the get go, there earlier arcs were nothing special, but the later arcs got better, so there score was change.

My argument is that, having series getting separate entry is levelling the playing field with these completed series.

I can use the wayback machine as proof to show you that during the series airing, the score was no where close to 9.00.



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keragamming said:
Noir_Alchemist said:


Dude deal with it, i used available data, real facts, i just calculate the average score of all the season

why, JUST WHY, would you hipotetically make hunter x hunter or fmab a seasonal anime ??? Dude is a whole show , and is hardernto have a nice score when people who only saw 3 episodes rate it as they pleasednand left.

You are missing the whole point


You clearly didn't read my the post of the link I sent you, so I will just give u a summary.

Even if all those users that gave snk season 1 a 1-6/10 returns that still will do little to affect the overall score(Also assuming these users don't give snk later season an higher score, but let's play your game) those are less than 5% of the overall score, most users on mal score between 7-10 which means those votes are the ones that decide the overall score of a season, the only difference between snk final season and snk season 1, is that percentage wise its getting more 10/10 votes than 8/10 and 9/10 votes, that's literally the only difference, Most users were not convince snk season 1 was a 10/10 anime hence why the percentage are so close each other for 10/10, 9/10 and 8/10 votes.

why, JUST WHY, would you hipotetically make hunter x hunter or fmab a seasonal anime ??? Dude is a whole show , and is hardernto have a nice score when people who only saw 3 episodes rate it as they pleasednand left.


Yes, and that is the very point, hxh 2011 and fmab don't have those available data anymore to be used against it in its earlier arcs either.

Your argument is that if we were to combine all seasons of snk then it wouldn't be rated so high correct? But the thing is many of those users don't see snk as a 6/10 or 7/10 anymore for example, so how is it fair to use old data of what persons thought of the series back then? There is no difference between a sequel or full series, its the same concept if snk was an ongoing series this the same way it would play out, people would give it 7/10 and 8/10 in season 1 for example but by time they reach episode 58, there score would change to probably a 9/10 or 10/10. The only difference here is that they are separate that is it.

You can ask many users, no users thought hxh 2011 or fmab to be a 10/10 from the get go, there earlier arcs were nothing special, but the later arcs got better, so there score was change.

My argument is that, having series getting separate entry is levelling the playing field with these completed series.

I can use the wayback machine as proof to show you that during the series airing, the score was no where close to 9.00.







No, no no you are the one who doesnt get it

Sequel effect is however a very logical thing. Even without using any data a simple logic will already reveal its existence.

Either way in short in spite of haters the latter seasons tend to have a lot more higher scores, because most (obviously not all) people that continue the series do it because they have some degree of like towards it. And besides a few trolls most people who drop a series because they don't like it don't bother rating latter seasons of said show with a low score. Therefore sequels will have much higher % of good ratings compared to bad ones than the earlier seasons do. At least as long as they don't mess up significantly enough to alienate people who liked earlier seasons. This is a simple psychology. I don't think that it even requires such a deep thinking to understand.


AOT S1

10 = 475,708 (26.2%)
9= (28.7 %)
8= (25.6 %)
1 = 4,894(0.3%)

AOT S3 P2

10 =323.910 (44.9%)
9 = (32.9 %)
8 = (15.2 %)
1 = 4,125 (0.6 %)


AOT season finale

10= 163,610 ( 60.5 %)
9= 58.878 ( 21.8 %)
8= 23,945 ( 8,9 %)

Full metal alchemist B

10= (49,7 % )
9= 27.9 %
8= 13.8


See the difference ... aot have fans voting it 10 that make the score a 60% of their votes, full metal has i that 49,7 % , the ones are not the issue , are the other percentajes specially the tens

Yet aot fans say is a conpiracy *facepalm* they got from a 26 % of 10s to a 60% of tens.

Numbers dont lie
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I try to look at them as stand alone in some capacity, but a sequel will never be stand alone, since a lot of the plot developments depend on the premise (the prequel). So if a show fails in continuation with the previous season, it's hard for it to succeed by its own merit, unless the plot allows for the season to be somewhat standalone, like if it's a new arc/ending/path in a VN, or somehow a "reset".
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Always standalone, if possible. Maybe it's because I watch 'less-story driven' series, so I wouldn't care even a bit about prequels when I rate. Though generally I'd rate a 2nd season based off of my enjoyment of how they carried out the story, but I wouldn't include my enjoyment of the previous entry's part of the story, if you get what I mean.
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I would say I view that as more standalone. Just the content from that specific season and that's it




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Noir_Alchemist said:
keragamming said:


You clearly didn't read my the post of the link I sent you, so I will just give u a summary.

Even if all those users that gave snk season 1 a 1-6/10 returns that still will do little to affect the overall score(Also assuming these users don't give snk later season an higher score, but let's play your game) those are less than 5% of the overall score, most users on mal score between 7-10 which means those votes are the ones that decide the overall score of a season, the only difference between snk final season and snk season 1, is that percentage wise its getting more 10/10 votes than 8/10 and 9/10 votes, that's literally the only difference, Most users were not convince snk season 1 was a 10/10 anime hence why the percentage are so close each other for 10/10, 9/10 and 8/10 votes.

why, JUST WHY, would you hipotetically make hunter x hunter or fmab a seasonal anime ??? Dude is a whole show , and is hardernto have a nice score when people who only saw 3 episodes rate it as they pleasednand left.


Yes, and that is the very point, hxh 2011 and fmab don't have those available data anymore to be used against it in its earlier arcs either.

Your argument is that if we were to combine all seasons of snk then it wouldn't be rated so high correct? But the thing is many of those users don't see snk as a 6/10 or 7/10 anymore for example, so how is it fair to use old data of what persons thought of the series back then? There is no difference between a sequel or full series, its the same concept if snk was an ongoing series this the same way it would play out, people would give it 7/10 and 8/10 in season 1 for example but by time they reach episode 58, there score would change to probably a 9/10 or 10/10. The only difference here is that they are separate that is it.

You can ask many users, no users thought hxh 2011 or fmab to be a 10/10 from the get go, there earlier arcs were nothing special, but the later arcs got better, so there score was change.

My argument is that, having series getting separate entry is levelling the playing field with these completed series.

I can use the wayback machine as proof to show you that during the series airing, the score was no where close to 9.00.







No, no no you are the one who doesnt get it

Sequel effect is however a very logical thing. Even without using any data a simple logic will already reveal its existence.

Either way in short in spite of haters the latter seasons tend to have a lot more higher scores, because most (obviously not all) people that continue the series do it because they have some degree of like towards it. And besides a few trolls most people who drop a series because they don't like it don't bother rating latter seasons of said show with a low score. Therefore sequels will have much higher % of good ratings compared to bad ones than the earlier seasons do. At least as long as they don't mess up significantly enough to alienate people who liked earlier seasons. This is a simple psychology. I don't think that it even requires such a deep thinking to understand.


AOT S1

10 = 475,708 (26.2%)
9= (28.7 %)
8= (25.6 %)
1 = 4,894(0.3%)

AOT S3 P2

10 =323.910 (44.9%)
9 = (32.9 %)
8 = (15.2 %)
1 = 4,125 (0.6 %)


AOT season finale

10= 163,610 ( 60.5 %)
9= 58.878 ( 21.8 %)
8= 23,945 ( 8,9 %)

Full metal alchemist B

10= (49,7 % )
9= 27.9 %
8= 13.8


See the difference ... aot have fans voting it 10 that make the score a 60% of their votes, full metal has i that 49,7 % , the ones are not the issue , are the other percentajes specially the tens

Yet aot fans say is a conpiracy *facepalm* they got from a 26 % of 10s to a 60% of tens.

Numbers dont lie


Ok, let's go with numbers then and the usage of probability and statistics.

Ok ,explain this.

Season 3 part 1. it has over 750k votes and over 190k users gave it a 10/10 votes. https://myanimelist.net/anime/35760/Shingeki_no_Kyojin_Season_3/stats

season 3 part 2, the basement arc has roughly 700k overall votes, yet its 10/10 votes is over 320k in total!, now explain that?

Want me to go on? Why is snk season 2 rated lower than season 1 if the sequel effect is so big as you think? It has over 1 million votes and it only has over 200k 10/10 votes https://myanimelist.net/anime/25777/Shingeki_no_Kyojin_Season_2/stats

Snk season 3 part 2 is impressive because snk season 1 even though it has over 1.7 million votes has only 460k 10/10 votes while snk season 3 part 2 with only 700k has over 320k 10/10 votes.

fmab has 1.3 million votes and its 10/10 is over 700k for example, so based off my estimate and the score of season 3 part 2, my 800-900k estimate for snk season 3 part 2 is pretty accurate.

If you use simple probably and statistics into this, it means whenever snk season 3 part 2 reaches at 1.7 million votes it will probably have around 800k to 900k 10/10 votes by then.

Now using the way back machine, this is snk 10/10 votes when it had close to 1 million members back in 2018.



It has 280k 10/10 with close to 1 million votes, while season 3 part 2 has 700k votes with over 320k, the stats shows that this season simple is getting more users to give it 10/10 than season 1, which is why I said by time it reaches 1.7 million it will have close to 800k 10/10 by then.

Also only 7.3% of users gave the first season a score between 1-6/10 which further proves my point that users that score between 7-10 are the majority of voters therefore they are the ones that decide a series overall score because they are the remaining 92.8% and this is not exclusive to just snk but most series except the really bad ones that even users that generally score between 7/10-10-10 would on special occasions score below that.

So I always laugh when persons said "its because most of the haters are gone" you mean the measly 7.3%? and I was being nice to add 6/10 voters or that percentage would be a lot lower. lol Not to mention there is high chance that many of the users would have given later seasons especially season 3 part 2 a higher score than season 1.

There many fans that weren't a fan of the first season that are now fan of the series, go and check random users list, there is high chance that most list you go into will have snk season 3 part 2 getting a higher score than season 1, that's a fact!
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Nope, nopeeeee

You are joking right ? Hahahahahahaha

You are trolling me, why did i take so long to get it , your numbers make no sense, dude the amount of users in season one compare to season finale decrease like in 700k people, THOSE PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY were the ones not interested on the show ... maybe just maybe now that season finale end people will watch the whole thing , maybe NOT, people already dropped, now the numbers are people who stay (aka fans) dude have been years, most people forgot, they have fo rewatched for be on optimal places, some wont do that , now in those FANS (people who stay) some people, believe it or not start to decresase their love, so maybe they change their 9 to 7s ... and so on

You can not made up a whole scenario cuz you dont want to accept the fact that AoT fans are just changing their scores to 10s just cuz they want to be #1 spot on mal, dude i seen forums, are like 700s on them on people saying plesse vote 10 aot finale, lets detrhone fmab , so many people that maybe like the show but overall for them is an 8 change their vote to 10s... cuz there is a whole coting brigade going on !!!!

But , listen fans who dont care, casuals and haters wont change their scores on season 1, they are probably users that dont even mal anymorem there is no WAY to do that right ? 700k votes that EXTREMIST fans dont have power over

Is not cuz the show became more masterpiece, is cuz less casuals vote ... accept it dude hahahaha

Now go ahead and tell me the new 45 + daily new forums of aot extremist dont exist hahahahha, tell me they dont go to fmab forums to harrast and create hatebait post ...

Look at tye end i dont care, i just wanted to make my opoinion clear, second season, amd follow up season overall will HAVE BETTER SCORE always cuz fans stay, casual get depured
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I rate each season as a whole. oen season could be great and another could be shit.

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I rate each MAL entry individually based on how much I enjoy that particular season. However, the continuation of the plot does play a role in that. If the second season improves on the first one, it will be higher, and if it is worse, it will be lower.
However, I rate most anime from the first episode and update the rating as I watch, so the rating of the previous season has some influence on where the sequel starts. For example, I gave The Promised Neverland a 9, so that had me start the second season at an 8 instead of a 7. However, that score has since dropped to a 7.
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Standalone...why should season 1 have any say in if the season 3 is trash or not
Im using Nanatsu no Taizai, but this works with any multi-season anime

For example Naruto
The 2nd part is a continuation, but they are separate, therefore you rank the separately...its the only logical position

Edit:
Ive got a better example, The Promised Neverland, since Ive only read the manga I can only rank it overall and it would be a 7 but the Grace Field arc in of itself was great, in my opinion a 8 or a 9, so if I watched the anime and it was as great as the manga and the season 1 ended at the end of Grace Field arc, 8 would be the minimum I could rate that season
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keragamming said:
I think in truth it's continuity, but most users whether including myself whether we realise it or not score based on recency bias, so I will use hxh for example(and this is how I think most users score as well) so early on in hxh 2011 I rated it a 6/10, when the heavens arc was released I increase my score to a 7/10 and when I watched the Yorknew arc, I jump my score to a 10/10, so despite me rating the previous arcs 7 and 6 out of 10, I simple ignore those arcs and score it a 10/10 because the latest arv was just that good, unfortunately the chimera ant arc for me was really average and I had to decrease my score from a 10/10 to a 7/10, although my opinion is unpopular most users think that Arc is the best arc, hence hxh rating increase in the 9.00 range.

Nefelupitou said:
I rate only the first season, that score represents the whole show. However, when something is so appalling that may affect the rest, I score separately, as already mentioned here, Psycho-Pass first season is great whereas the second is horrible.


And if the seasons were joined as if, season 1 for that season was finish and just co time to season. 2 content, what would be the overall score then? I think you would have gave it either a 4 or 5/10, am I correct?



Hey there, English isn't my mother tongue and I'm not quite confident in my skills, I didn't understand your reply, I'm sorry.

I'll try to explain it better and I'll use Psycho-Pass as an example again

First season I gave 8/10, I love the first season, however, the second season is horrible, in my opinion of course, and I gave it a 2, there's a gap between the seasons, therefore I rated them separately, but you if you want, you can consider that my score to all Psycho-Pass is 5 (8+2/2)

Monogatari, in my opinion, is great, my overall score for Monogatari is 9, but I only rated Bakemonogatari (first season/entry), this 9 for Bakemonogatari represents all seasons. In my opinion, Monogatari series doesn't have a horrible season, there's isn't a gap between them, their qualities are similar, therefore only 1 entry with score is enough.

I don't like the MAL entries system, I try to simulate IMDb score system.

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I usually compare each different entries in the franchise to each other. I guess an entry being good also as an stand alone could rise my rating.
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Depends on the series. Each Jojo part I rate as a standalone because it is a new narrative and new characters. However I rate stuff like Dragon Ball Z, GT, Kai, and Super based on how well I feel it continues the story or adds to the world. Sidenote GT>Super
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I like to rate based on both. You obviously can't start reviewing or rating a sequel without the context of the previous seasons. At the same time, a "season" of an anime is clearly also it's own entry
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I generally rate seasons pretty closely unless one's much better or worse than the other.
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Both. I mean, I rate each season individually as I think they are each their own entities, but it's hard, if not impossible, to completely divorce your opinion on a sequel from its predecessor not only because it sets the expectations that the sequel should meet but also for instance if the first season has allowed you to like a character dynamic you will likely enjoy their dialogue in the second season more than if you hadn't seen the first season that's just an inevitability.
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When the seasons are divided up on a database, and so I get to choose, I decide how to rate based on whether I have a separate opinion of that part, or just a single overall opinion.

If I have a separate opinion of a part, I'll obviously rate it based on that.

If I have just a single overall opinion, I'm likely to give the overall opinion on each of the major parts of the show (e.g. each season), while just leaving specials unrated.
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