| I'm getting so sick of of these fucking terribly written light novels that come out now days and constantly get Anime adaptions. I have no idea why Japan loves these poorly written power fantasies so much. What happened to good Light Novel adaptions? What happened to when only the decent-good Light novels would get adaptions? Like why does Redo healer need an Anime adaption. Content aside the show fucking blows major dicks and watches like it was written by an angsty horny teenager. To think grown adults are actually writing these stories. What a shit show. |
ZeroflamezJan 24, 2021 11:50 AM
| Well I couldn't disagree more because I only watch anime to get a boner. (and to fantasize about myself as a girl) |
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| As long as the money comes in, everything's fine. But thank god, have I got any money to even view them. |
| OP sure does love making nothing but complaint threads... That being said, I'm getting tired of isekai light novel adaptations getting announced all the time too. |
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| Because adapting anime is all about how much money can be made, nothing new. So rather than writing the anime plot from scratch better just use LN whose story caters to most anime viewers and of course they can't animate it too good since it would mean more production costs :) |
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Zeroflamez said: What happened to good Light Novel adaptions? Bold take in a season when Re:Zero S2 is literally airing right now. Light Novels didn't get any worse. You're seeing more of the worse ones, because the anime industry is growing, but this is (say it with me) a good thing. No-one's forcing you to watch anything you don't like, so why are you so salty? |
| It doesn't look like you've read a single novel. Please speak from a position of knowledge next time. |
| その目だれの目？ |
| I kind of agree, most lns I come across has horrible structure. Exceptions include COTE, durarara. |
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| There's a lot more anime being produced each year now than in the past, so obliviously the amount of light novel adaptations is going to increase as well... You always have the option to...I don't know...ignore everything that holds no interest to you... |
| Poor take. Redo of Healer is the best romcom of 2021. |
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Crow_Black said: It hasn't looked like you've read a single light novel and i've read them before and jeez op this like what i lost count on the amount of complaint threads you've made. OT Isekai light novels with jrpg elements and buzzfeed names are annoying. I make complaint threads to vent and cause I'm bored. Plus my complaint threads always have some kind of validity. I haven't made one in ages too so I thought it was about time. Lucifrost said: It doesn't look like you've read a single novel. Please speak from a position of knowledge next time. You don't need to read light novels in order to have an opinion about them. This isn't 15 years ago. There are so many Anime adaptions of them now that you can just watch them. Fario-P said: OP sure does love making nothing but complaint threads... That being said, I'm getting tired of isekai light novel adaptations getting announced all the time too. I haven't even made a complaint thread in well over 3 months. Not sure why you're acting like I do this regularly. Yeah sure when I make threads it is normally complaining threads but I haven't made one in ages like I said. Also it's not like there aren't a ton of low quality threads on these boards so it is what it is. Maurice_5 said: Zeroflamez said: What happened to good Light Novel adaptions? Bold take in a season when Re:Zero S2 is literally airing right now. Light Novels didn't get any worse. You're seeing more of the worse ones, because the anime industry is growing, but this is (say it with me) a good thing. No-one's forcing you to watch anything you don't like, so why are you so salty? Lol Re:Zero being good. It's literally no different than all the LN shlock. |
ZeroflamezJan 23, 2021 9:08 PM
| op it' the total opposite of what you stated. anime has become nothing but a commercial the lightnovel adaptations are paid by the book publishers to promote their stuff. the books with already good sales don't need an extra push. so we get trash adapted. nobody wants this aside from the committee. the reason healslut got greenlit was because shield hero sold fairly well. which I don't get because it was a rewrite that turned the story into nonsense, and somehow nobody questions it. now healslut goes beyond with the fanservice. not only it's faithful but adds something, deeming it worth existing. shield hero was a mockery. |
| 馬鹿げた倫理 全部ガラクタで |
| And light novel series with 8.8 rating isn't getting adapted, and their is really a surge in isekai light novels , I wanted some mystery or SOL light novel but finding such ln was tough as every other is a isekai or vr game And some I found good were almost 2 decades old |
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| My guess would be that it's more easier and less expensive to license bad/unpopular Light novel/Manga? Your title is misleading.You should say "Light novel Adaptations" are the lowest quality they've ever been. |
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| Maybe it's because in Japan, if you buy something it counts as a plus sale for the series irrespective of whether you actually like it or not. From my past purchases and experience from using Japanese sites is that giving a negative comment/review is highly discouraged, if you liked 20% and disliked the remaining 80% you are supposed to only praise the 20% you liked. A lot free sites publishing content only have a button to upvote after reading, an option to comment or write a review is very rare. Also it doesn't help that Japanese fans are afraid to say negative things, from being among the Japanese fans on twitter I've noticed that they try too hard to convince themselves that the author is superior and always right, even when they dislike/disagree with something they usually start with "It's not that I dislike x but..." and it's usually done more privately which would never reach the creators. It's mostly only the positive feedback that does reach the author. |
Maou_heika said: From my past purchases and experience from using Japanese sites is that giving a negative comment/review is highly discouraged, if you liked 20% and disliked the remaining 80% you are supposed to only praise the 20% you liked. That is how it should be everywhere. Find what makes you happy and do better things with your time than shit on someone's hard work. |
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| LN occupies the same niche in literature like pulp fiction did or in general light literature do these days. They are for fun and easy relaxation (even if they are seemingly dealing with dark themes), their content is easily digestable and most of the time badly written (the quality of the four I have read ranged from bad to poor in that regard). Anime has the same role in cinematics so it is not strange that it draws from LNs and more rarely from something worthy of praise. But don't fret over it, the same thing can be be said about the out-of-the- mill movies and TV series too we get most of the times, they are just as shitty in their own western way. |
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| I agree. I've seen some pretty good ones but not that much recently, especially from japan. I could still find great ones from china and taiwan, though, but that's probably because there's more genres to choose from and only the good ones stand out. |
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IpreferEcchi said: If they are so afraid of criticism then they should just make it available for free or change their ranking from most sold to most liked or something like that. Maou_heika said: From my past purchases and experience from using Japanese sites is that giving a negative comment/review is highly discouraged, if you liked 20% and disliked the remaining 80% you are supposed to only praise the 20% you liked. That is how it should be everywhere. Find what makes you happy and do better things with your time than shit on someone's hard work. |
| Hard to be the worst they've ever been when they've always been the worst. |
| Well I for one already loved Lain. |
JoyBoy_316 said: Nowadays anime exs will greenlight anything under the sun just because it has some specific tags and don't look anymore into it than that. I wouldn't be surprised if healer gets the reviewers treatment. The only silver lining is at least is that there is still some good ones like ascendance of a bookworm and re zero being made. |
IpreferEcchi said: Maou_heika said: From my past purchases and experience from using Japanese sites is that giving a negative comment/review is highly discouraged, if you liked 20% and disliked the remaining 80% you are supposed to only praise the 20% you liked. That is how it should be everywhere. Find what makes you happy and do better things with your time than shit on someone's hard work. Silencing all criticism doesn't just mean shit posts, I certainly remember constructive criticism being a thing, how is anyone supposed to get better when he is only receiving complements on a work that's 80% trash? |
Zeroflamez said: I'm getting so sick of of these fucking terribly written light novels that come out now days and constantly get Anime adaptions. I have no idea why Japan loves these poorly written power fantasies so much. What happened to good Light Novel adaptions? What happened to when only the decent-good Light novels would get adaptions? Like why does Redo healer need an Anime adaption. Content aside the show fucking blows major dicks and watches like it was written by an angsty horny teenager. To think grown adults are actually writing these stories. What a shit show. Redos only interesting quality is seeing how far the anime is willing to take it I'm not even opposed to extreme content in a mature story but all the character are horrible people solely to justify MCs revenge. It's just not believable that so many people would be such massive cunts for no reason whatsoever But yeah it's impressive how many light novels recycle the same structure and premise ( you know , pathetic loser isekai into power fantasy) Not sure if japan really loves them that much. It may just be that it's just very easy to write so you can pull from many authors You need literally little to no skill to write an isekai as you can just exposition lots of things and other writing hurdles are also easy circumvented |
| I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about ... nothing really changed - No Game no Life, Index, Konosuba, Overlord, Slime, Re:Zero, Shield Hero, and many others... we get plenty of good adaptations. And there were anime adaptations of mediocre LN's in the past too, is that they went unnoticed, and you didn't watch them. Go back to the pre-2010's or early 2010's and check the anime with scores below 6.99 and you will find plenty. Yes there is a problem with the LN's, in that there are a shit ton of lazy isekai. But overall there is still good shit out there ... As for Redo of a Healer ... it got an adaptation because obviously has an audience that bought the novel, which encouraged the publisher to make an anime to promote it more. Power fantasy and NTR are very popular in Japan, so... An anime adaptation is not a prize that only the best out of the best get ... they are a business, and what drives the production of an anime is sales potential. There are countless great anime out there who never got a new season. |
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IpreferEcchi said: Maou_heika said: From my past purchases and experience from using Japanese sites is that giving a negative comment/review is highly discouraged, if you liked 20% and disliked the remaining 80% you are supposed to only praise the 20% you liked. That is how it should be everywhere. Find what makes you happy and do better things with your time than shit on someone's hard work. That is a terrible way to promote mediocrity |
| Fvck ln wn today too much crap on internet i mean lmao |
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| Wow, it's been a while since you last complained. Btw I'm sick of power fantasies and isekai as much the next person is. Zeroflamez said: >poorly writtenI'm getting so sick of of these fucking terribly written light novels that come out now days and constantly get Anime adaptions. 90% of any media sucks. No shit. You haven't read any as well. Zeroflamez said: I have no idea why Japan loves these poorly written power fantasies so much. The main audiance for LN are teenagers (usually male) and NEETs for course. LN's are usually used for escapism from the """harsh reality""". Japanese are also waaaaaaaaay less critical than the west is (SAO is pretty popular there). Zeroflamez said: It doesn't sell.What happened to good Light Novel adaptions? What happened to when only the decent-good Light novels would get adaptions? Zeroflamez said: >why did it get an animeLike why does Redo healer need an Anime adaption. Content aside the show fucking blows major dicks and watches like it was written by an angsty horny teenager. To think grown adults are actually writing these stories. What a shit show. It it selling really well for this type of story. https://moca-news.net/article/20191121/2019112113150a_/01/ https://twitter.com/animateonline/status/1344277070059249664 |
Attackonfiller said: Poor take. Redo of Healer is the best romcom of 2021. This is a take that I can get behind as well. |
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| Unless you read them personally and compare them with the adaptation, it's kind of pointless to complain about that stuff. I mean... how can you know that anime is bad when you haven't read source material? It can be bad compared to other anime but that's also. Also... there is obviously demand for power fantasy in Japan. It makes profit, meaning it's more likely to get published overseas. It's just business. If you are salty about that, just stick to good LNs or to adaptations, that were actually good. There are still plenty of those. |
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| They work lol. I would imagine the authors aren't dumb enough to not know what they are writing. They are probably looking for publicity more than anything. |
| 90% of LNs are isekai and 90% of isekai is trash. |
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kronopy said: I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about ... nothing really changed - No Game no Life, Index, Konosuba, Overlord, Slime, Re:Zero, Shield Hero, and many others... I'm pretty sure these anime/Light Novels are exactly the kind that the OP is fed up with... I think Zeroflames wants more LNs like Dirty Pair, Boogiepop, Guin Saga, Gundam Unicorn, etc instead of yet another "horny NEET goes into a generic fantasy world and is overpowered for no reason and/or has a harem. |
IpreferEcchi said: and then don't help people to progress in their art and let them use their hard work for making something even worse ?? Constructive Criticism should be encouragedMaou_heika said: From my past purchases and experience from using Japanese sites is that giving a negative comment/review is highly discouraged, if you liked 20% and disliked the remaining 80% you are supposed to only praise the 20% you liked. That is how it should be everywhere. Find what makes you happy and do better things with your time than shit on someone's hard work. |
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nyugvo6 said: op it' the total opposite of what you stated. anime has become nothing but a commercial the lightnovel adaptations are paid by the book publishers to promote their stuff. the books with already good sales don't need an extra push. so we get trash adapted. nobody wants this aside from the committee. the reason healslut got greenlit was because shield hero sold fairly well. which I don't get because it was a rewrite that turned the story into nonsense, and somehow nobody questions it. now healslut goes beyond with the fanservice. not only it's faithful but adds something, deeming it worth existing. shield hero was a mockery. That makes a lot more sense to me now WHY this is happening. I always knew that Anime was adverts for the source material but I only thought that the more successful ones got adaptions. Never really thought about them doing it for the ones that doing mediocre in order to boost sales. Scordolo said: My guess would be that it's more easier and less expensive to license bad/unpopular Light novel/Manga? Your title is misleading.You should say "Light novel Adaptations" are the lowest quality they've ever been. I changed the title. AshitaNoJonas said: kronopy said: I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about ... nothing really changed - No Game no Life, Index, Konosuba, Overlord, Slime, Re:Zero, Shield Hero, and many others... I'm pretty sure these anime/Light Novels are exactly the kind that the OP is fed up with... I think Zeroflames wants more LNs like Dirty Pair, Boogiepop, Guin Saga, Gundam Unicorn, etc instead of yet another "horny NEET goes into a generic fantasy world and is overpowered for no reason and/or has a harem. That's exactly what I'd like to see more of. All of the LN adaptions that are coming out now are just horny neets in fantasy worlds like you say or have overly convoluted stories like Index where you literally need a road map as a guide in order to watch it. I just miss when we got decent-good LN adaptions like the ones you listed as well as others like Full Metal Panic, Baccano and Durrara. So what? doesn't mean I didn't try an episode or 2. I don't put shows on my drop list that I have no intentions to ever continue. Ceoneichi said: Not all the light novels are low quality take monogatari series and oregairu for example,their writing is even better than the actual genuine novels And I can't disagree that most of the light novels are trashy power fantasy ones Of course not all light novels are terrible, never said they were but the ones being adapted now mainly are. Monogatari was adapted in like 09-10 if my memory serves correct That was when good LN being adapted was still a thing. Enrav1x said: Don't talk crap when you youself are watching mediocre garbage and beside it's not very difficult to ignore them if you are not in the demographic that doesn't mean they should stop making them...talk about hypocrisy Ah yes, the "I don't know how to defend something I like watching/reading so I'm going to just shit on what this person likes and call them a hypocrite instead" defense. Of course your list is full of LN shit lol. @Superwarior2012 You don't know what I've read so please stop. |
ZeroflamezJan 24, 2021 12:33 PM
| This whole "I haven't made a complaint thread in 3 months" is quite amusing to me for some reason. Then again, no, if you don't read LNs (as you've implied here) you know nothing about the writing quality of LNs. Hearing or reading that they are bad doesn't count as knowing, much less justifies a complaint thread. If you are exposed to anime adaptations, then talk about the anime adaptations, the ones you've seen anyway. |
| Maybe I'm looking wrong into this or you just forgot you wrote: Zeroflamez said: This looks to me like you admitted you haven't read any. Anyways...Lucifrost said: It doesn't look like you've read a single novel. Please speak from a position of knowledge next time. You don't need to read light novels in order to have an opinion about them. This isn't 15 years ago. There are so many Anime adaptions of them now that you can just watch them. |
| More anime gets made now than ever really so of course there is more you dont like. Most anime is adaptations so if you have narrow likes than most will seem shitty if you have broader tastes then less of it will be shitty, Thats life. Also more studios are likely to take chances on certain popular genres because the anime audience keeps growing. |
Zeroflamez said: I changed the title. It's not any better. Why does it matter that anime based on novels are bad, when so many other anime remain great? Or are you trying to say that today's anime all suck? That's exactly what I'd like to see more of. All of the LN adaptions that are coming out now are just horny neets in fantasy worlds like you say or have overly convoluted stories like Index where you literally need a road map as a guide in order to watch it. I just miss when we got decent-good LN adaptions like the ones you listed as well as others like Full Metal Panic, Baccano and Durrara. Oh, so that's what you mean by "garbage." Too bad your premise is faulty, as we do continue getting "decent-good" anime. https://myanimelist.net/anime/15583/Date_A_Live https://myanimelist.net/anime/34284/Yuuki_Yuuna_wa_Yuusha_de_Aru__Washio_Sumi_no_Shou https://myanimelist.net/anime/33003/Mahou_Shoujo_Ikusei_Keikaku https://myanimelist.net/anime/33502/Shuumatsu_Nani_Shitemasu_ka_Isogashii_Desu_ka_Sukutte_Moratte_Ii_Desu_ka https://myanimelist.net/anime/35079/Kino_no_Tabi__The_Beautiful_World_-_The_Animated_Series https://myanimelist.net/anime/33352/Violet_Evergarden |
LucifrostJan 24, 2021 1:18 PM
| その目だれの目？ |
| are there any good light novels waiting to be adapted? scholars remain divided |
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| japans shit taste is the answer, what sells goes |
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| I mean there are not that many good ones. They pick the popular ones because, ya know, money. |
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| because those "garbage" LNs sell, people read those LNs and they generate interest, it's all about the yen. For example, the best LN Japan has ever produced - HakoMari was terrible with the readers, one volume was scrapped by the author and it wasn't popular, it only got 7 masterpiece volumes (yes, even volume 2, which I consider to be better than 3 and 4) somehow and it'll never get an adaptation because no one cares about it. I'm not saying stuff like SAO or Toaru are garbage, those are just more popular and earned money, but to be honest, HakoMari is still the best LN series ever created. |
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